cnn/youtube debate postponed

[shrugged0106]

:(


http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/ron_paul_2008/2007/07/cnnyoutube-deba.html


July 28, 2007
CNN/YouTube Debate Postponed
We received word yesterday that the CNN/YouTube/Florida GOP presidential candidates debate scheduled for September 17 has been postponed. A new date has yet to be determined. The Democratic debate was held on July 23rd.

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Posted on July 28, 2007 at 12:14 PM |

[Ron Paul Fan]

Well at least it's not cancelled yet. Giuliani said that he had scheduling conflicts so he should be able to make it now.

[shrugged0106]

Well at least it's not cancelled yet. Giuliani said that he had scheduling conflicts so he should be able to make it now.


good point.

[Thom1776]

Romney: "I think the presidency ought to be held at a higher level than having to answer questions from a snowman,"

How about the roof of your car? Is that high enough?

[nullvalu]

Romney: "I think the presidency ought to be held at a higher level than having to answer questions from a snowman,"

How about the roof of your car? Is that high enough?

LMAO i thought the snowman question was hilarious, and actually asked a decent question.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0BPnnvI47Q

[cujothekitten]

EmergencyCheese goes off on the republicans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIoQ6MhhhDQ

[Dustancostine]

This really upsets me I was really looking forward to this debate. I bet all the candidates will magically have conflicts of schedule between now and then. If they don't have this debate, it will be criminal.

[Mom4Ron]

Romney's afraid of a snowman. Hehehehe

[MozoVote]

Somebody HAS to make some snowman costumes to heckle Romney at his next appearances! ;)

[Mom4Ron]

LOL! Good call!

Oh to be his neighbor during winter. What fun that could be.

[nullvalu]

Great idea! I like the dolphin costumes personally, maybe the two could dance together or something.

[freelance]

Softening us up for the cancellation???

[Bruehound]

yes, unfortunately this news essentially signals a cancellation. It also signals fear.

[rg123]

Maybe if CNN called it the neocon debate all the neocons would show up cause their is only one republican in the field thats Ron Paul

[kalami]

The youtube question format is irritating and distracting.

[Shellshock1918]

How do you skip the debate because of a scheduling conflict? Oh please what else to do besides debate? Rally more of your neo-con twits?

[MozoVote]

The youtube question format is irritating and distracting.

It really was not that different from an audience-driven Q&A session.

[V4Vendetta]

THEY ARE SCARED TO DEATH ON RON PAUL'S HUGE FOLLOWING ON YOUTUBE

BE ENCOURAGED PEOPLE, THEY ARE WILLING TO CANCEL SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE OF US

[LibertyEagle]

Somebody HAS to make some snowman costumes to heckle Romney at his next appearances! ;)

That's hilarious and a great idea! :D

[specsaregood]

THEY ARE SCARED TO DEATH ON RON PAUL'S HUGE FOLLOWING ON YOUTUBE

BE ENCOURAGED PEOPLE, THEY ARE WILLING TO CANCEL SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE OF US

I am inclined to agree. A strong Ron Paul campaign press release about this would be a good thing. Or an invite by CNN for RP to come on TV and discuss this situation.

[nullvalu]

Either way, Ron Paul's name is being mentioned in the news more because of this.

[ladyjade3]

Somebody HAS to make some snowman costumes to heckle Romney at his next appearances! ;)

YESSSSSS!!!!!!!

[michaelwise]

Maybe they should just change the name Youtube to Rontube.

[Syren123]

It better not fricking be the following week. We've got a big thing planned in Los Angeles on the 26th and it would jack things up considerably to have to change the date AGAIN.

[MsDoodahs]

Great idea! I like the dolphin costumes personally, maybe the two could dance together or something.

Flipper the dolphin, the terrifying snowman, and a chicken.

:D

[DavyDuke17]

Its not fair that they move it because Giuliani has scheduling conflicts.. what about the other candidates that will have to change there plans now?

[MsDoodahs]

Don't forget the snow baby that was also featured in that question!

lolol...

I really hope someone does this and youtubes it, it would be so hilarious.

eta: it might have been more of a snow toddler...

[goldenequity]

Well, I think if the GOP keeps ducking Youtube they're making a HUGE mistake.

Here's why: watch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9Mh6DHr1js&feature=dir)

[jblosser]

Do we have contact info for whoever gets to decide if this ever happens or not?

[kalami]

Well, I think if the GOP keeps ducking Youtube they're making a HUGE mistake.

Here's why: watch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9Mh6DHr1js&feature=dir)

What is he talking about? Didn't CNN/Youtube screen and choose the questions? The same softball questions were asked and the same canned responses were given, except you have to deal with some guy who can't stop giggling and flirting with his gf while he films his question.

[ape]

if romney can't even face a snowman how will he be able to face AQ and the terrorists?

[TheMikael]

if romney can't even face a snowman how will he be able to face AQ and the terrorists?
Well as president, Romney, will put the snowman along with the terrorists in his "Double Guantanamo". And hold the snowman there with out a trial...or until it melts. :D :D

[james1906]

Romney: "I think the presidency ought to be held at a higher level than having to answer questions from a snowman,"

How about the roof of your car? Is that high enough?

is a dog strapped to the top?

[ladyjade3]

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c153/Borodog/BraveBraveSirRomney.jpg

[jblosser]

Rachel that's awesome. We need a video of Brave Sir Romney going through the forest and meeting... the dreaded snowman who says 'Nee'.

[Nefertiti]

Romney: "I think the presidency ought to be held at a higher level than having to answer questions from a snowman,"

How about the roof of your car? Is that high enough?

I saw something the following on the magazine rack at the supermarket checkout this morning that was supposed to be a magazine devoted to travelling with your dog everywhere you go. I wonder if Romney is a subscriber or whether they plan to feature him in an upcoming issue?

http://www.fidofriendly.com/

[cujothekitten]

In case it hasn't been posted you can submit video questions to the ABC Iowa debates. Ron Paul will be there and it will be televised.

[james1906]

my avatar is an ode to mitt

[cujothekitten]

my avatar is an ode to mitt

LOL!

[foofighter20x]

Flipper the dolphin, the terrifying snowman, and a chicken.

:D

These costumes are spendy! :eek:

Dolphin (http://www.costume-shop.com/index.php?p=product&id=1342&parent=24)
Snowman (http://www.buycostumes.com/Search_All_snowman/Category/126/results1.aspx)
Chicken (http://www.anniescostumes.com/chick.htm)

[jblosser]

Here Romney specifically asked for a postponement:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/07/27/romney_will_skipyoutube_forum.html

[MozoVote]

These costumes are spendy! :eek:

Dolphin (http://www.costume-shop.com/index.php?p=product&id=1342&parent=24)
Snowman (http://www.buycostumes.com/Search_All_snowman/Category/126/results1.aspx)
Chicken (http://www.anniescostumes.com/chick.htm)

Well we can always make snowmen shaped signs, cheap. Maybe we should create a contest for the best Romney-heckling gimmick in front of the debates on on August 5.

[Sir VotesALot]

The youtube question format is irritating and distracting.

you forgot embarassing

[LibertyEagle]

http://www.youtube.com/contests_layout?name=RepublicanDebate&v=RC8ugdXq6xE&goto=91

http://www.youtube.com/contests_layout?name=RepublicanDebate&v=oZ8sljs9TDk&goto=137

http://www.youtube.com/contests_layout?name=RepublicanDebate&v=JHSicdxZWB0&goto=108

http://www.youtube.com/contests_layout?name=RepublicanDebate&v=JRNmlf90N4Q&goto=109

http://www.youtube.com/contests_layout?name=RepublicanDebate&v=ZT5AelCkuOs&goto=25

http://www.youtube.com/contests_layout?name=RepublicanDebate&v=sySjKwHMVfI&goto=131

http://www.youtube.com/contests_layout?name=RepublicanDebate&v=nHu86q_pIPg&goto=145

http://www.youtube.com/contests_layout?name=RepublicanDebate&v=cXe73-f5PRQ&goto=149

http://www.youtube.com/contests_layout?name=RepublicanDebate&v=jfNqnvMNYzk&goto=154

http://www.youtube.com/contests_layout?name=RepublicanDebate&v=gUhY0sIlwZc&goto=155


The one about NAFTA could be beefed up quite a bit, but there are a number of good questions here and not one snowman to be found. ;)

[SeanEdwards]

you forgot embarassing

Yeah a bunch of those questions were lame, imo.

But I love seeing Rudy McRomney squirm as it tries to weasel out of the debate.

Ron Paul pwns youtube! :D

[briatx]

If the youtube debates indeed do get cancelled, it will be a great opportunity for the RP campaign to go ahead and hold them anyway. Make a spoof of the debates. Maybe cut and paste some stuff from the democratic debate, and have Ron Paul answer the questions and show empty booths all around.

So, Ron Paul you like You Tube and showed up for the debates. Why are all of your other Republicans wrong?

That's a very good question, and you might wonder why all the Democrats showed up to their YouTube debate...

etc.

[Richandler]

If CNN has any guts they will air the debate with only the 3 candidates who have agreed and say that that Mitt Romney and Rudy Guiliani felt like they were to important to participate. Perhaps emails from the Republican community will help that happen.

[Joe Knows]

If CNN has any guts they will air the debate with only the 3 candidates who have agreed and say that that Mitt Romney and Rudy Guiliani felt like they were to important to participate. Perhaps emails from the Republican community will help that happen.

We just have to realize the Mitt has a little problem. He suffers from Chionoandrophobia.

[foofighter20x]

Don't sully the sufferers of that terrible affliction by associating them with Mitt-head. :p

[jcbraithwaite7]

I don't think that anyone is backing out due to scheduling... here is the real reason.

We as a nation have become so apathetic towards politics. We have to candy coat anything to get people in America to pay attention. History lesson = blockbuster movie with hunky stars to teach us about Pearl Harbor or Vietnam. More people vote for American Idol or So You Think You Can Dance than for who will be running our country. The Youtube debate added humor and creativity to liven up a tradition debate and made it appealing to young people. Who does Ron Paul appeal to? Young people. Romney isn't afraid of Frosty... but afraid that once people are exposed to Ron Paul's message.... people get onboard the Liberty train. Scheduling I don't think so.

[SeanEdwards]

I don't think that anyone is backing out due to scheduling... here is the real reason.

We as a nation have become so apathetic towards politics. We have to candy coat anything to get people in America to pay attention. History lesson = blockbuster movie with hunky stars to teach us about Pearl Harbor or Vietnam. More people vote for American Idol or So You Think You Can Dance than for who will be running our country. The Youtube debate added humor and creativity to liven up a tradition debate and made it appealing to young people. Who does Ron Paul appeal to? Young people. Romney isn't afraid of Frosty... but afraid that once people are exposed to Ron Paul's message.... people get onboard the Liberty train. Scheduling I don't think so.

Perhaps the CNN execs realize the same thing and are trying to force the Republicans to show their hand by offering to re-schedule the debate. If Rudy McRomney still turns them down after being offered a schedule change, then they can't really claim it was a scheduling conflict. Their fear of youtube will be revealed to all.

Ron Paul wins youtube debate without even showing up! :D :D

[michaelwise]

I think they are backing out because they are a couple of pussies who can't hack it.

[micahnelson]

MITT ROMNEY IS SCARED OF SNOWMEN!

If you know me, you know there are few times I lock the caps, but this was too perfect.

[MozoVote]

We could have a Romney snowmen cookies bake sale and raise money for Ron Paul. :)

[cujothekitten]

I think they are backing out because they are a couple of pussies who can't hack it.

QFT

[ladyjade3]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XyD9nL2PUo0

[MozoVote]

That vid shows practice is paying off, Rachel's editing (or her team's) is getting much crisper between shots!

Afterthought: One thing missing was the "Fred Thompson" technique. I'll let you know if I'm going to interview at all, when I'm good and ready... and the temperature is just right... and there is a full moon... :p

[micahnelson]

Giuliani: I can't make your nationally televised debate, as I have a scheduling conflict.

Micahnelson: That's really an extraordinary statement. That's an extraordinary statement, as someone who lived through the CNN Democrat Debate, that you have a scheduling conflict. I don't think I've ever heard that before, and I've heard some pretty absurd explanations for bailing out on a debate. I would ask the former mayor to withdraw that comment and tell us that he didn't really mean that.

[xcalybur]

The strategy from Gouliani, ROmney, and probably Fred is to not join any of the remaining debates until the Republican nomination. From their perspective it is smart. Why give the up and comer more attention? They want to use their money to win this election. Plaster their faces everywhere without giving free publicity to Ron Paul via debates.

Actually, I believe that if this is their strategy it could hurt us some. We all know that we saw huge jumps in numbers every time there was a debate. It gets your name out to the public for little money.

[shadowhooch]

Giuliani: I can't make your nationally televised debate, as I have a scheduling conflict.

Micahnelson: That's really an extraordinary statement. That's an extraordinary statement, as someone who lived through the CNN Democrat Debate, that you have a scheduling conflict. I don't think I've ever heard that before, and I've heard some pretty absurd explanations for bailing out on a debate. I would ask the former mayor to withdraw that comment and tell us that he didn't really mean that.

nice! :D

[michaelwise]

Giuliani: I can't make your nationally televised debate, as I have a scheduling conflict.

Micahnelson: That's really an extraordinary statement. That's an extraordinary statement, as someone who lived through the CNN Democrat Debate, that you have a scheduling conflict. I don't think I've ever heard that before, and I've heard some pretty absurd explanations for bailing out on a debate. I would ask the former mayor to withdraw that comment and tell us that he didn't really mean that.

I have identified you as a true critical thinker, Micahnelson

[SeanEdwards]

This forum cracks me up. :D

[micahnelson]

I have identified you as a true critical thinker, Micahnelson

Why thank you, but it took a doctor to cure my blindness.

[scrosnoe]

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

ladyjade nice video and fast too

great website and links referenced at end / well done all!

[Syren123]

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c153/Borodog/BraveBraveSirRomney.jpg

THAT IS AWESOME!!
I wonder if Brave Sir Romney faced the vicious Chicken of Bristol!! Or personally wet himself at the Battle of Baden Hill.

[michaelwise]

THAT IS AWESOME!!
I wonder if Brave Sir Romney faced the vicious Chicken of Bristol!! Or personally wet himself at the Battle of Baden Hill.

I think he could be the new Breck Girl.

[austin356]

THEY ARE SCARED TO DEATH ON RON PAUL'S HUGE FOLLOWING ON YOUTUBE

BE ENCOURAGED PEOPLE, THEY ARE WILLING TO CANCEL SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE OF US



I said that yesterday and people really just brushed me off.

I told you guys this only two showing up thing was not necessarily good.

[austin356]

Giuliani: I can't make your nationally televised debate, as I have a scheduling conflict.

Micahnelson: That's really an extraordinary statement. That's an extraordinary statement, as someone who lived through the CNN Democrat Debate, that you have a scheduling conflict. I don't think I've ever heard that before, and I've heard some pretty absurd explanations for bailing out on a debate. I would ask the former mayor to withdraw that comment and tell us that he didn't really mean that.



2 bad they dont have thus give a user a plus option on this forum......... you are worthy!

[Slugg]

I said that yesterday and people really just brushed me off.

I told you guys this only two showing up thing was not necessarily good.

Remember how lame the Democrats looked when they declined on the Fox News debate (not that I blame them, but they still looked lame).

That's what the republicans are going to look like. I really REALLY hope it doesn't get cancelled. I wonder if they would be okay with youtube questions, but without props/costumes...etc.

Honest, respectable questions....then perhaps Rudy McRomney would join in the debate.

[Thomas_Paine]

I am inclined to agree. A strong Ron Paul campaign press release about this would be a good thing. Or an invite by CNN for RP to come on TV and discuss this situation.

Yes, the campaign can CAPITALIZE on the Establishments FEAR

[DjLoTi]

Updated news here:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/28/cnn-debate-postponed/

[michaelwise]

Updated news here:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/28/cnn-debate-postponed/

Some of the comments over there are pretty viscous. Another backfire on the holdouts.

[megan]

Rudy AND Romney decline???

The cowards did it... they are just gonna flat out decline every debate where they can get attacked with real questions. The thing about Rudy is, he's been doing this his whole life - i'm sure his supporters won't really care that he dodged a debate. They are so brainwashed into believing that he's an american hero that they couldn't give a damn whether he skipped a debate or not.

If someone can't even deal with random people on youtube how do you expect them to be able to deal with our country?

On Rush's program today he announced this. He said the only people to accept are McCain and (guess who?) Ron Paul. McCain actually likes and respects Paul...and vice versa. Their debate would be very respectful. McCain has called Paul "the most honest man in washington."

cant wait to see the media spin this into a "great campaign strategy" or whatever.

[Ron Paul Fan]

Rudy AND Romney decline???

The cowards did it... they are just gonna flat out decline every debate where they can get attacked with real questions. The thing about Rudy is, he's been doing this his whole life - i'm sure his supporters won't really care that he dodged a debate. They are so brainwashed into believing that he's an american hero that they couldn't give a damn whether he skipped a debate or not.

If someone can't even deal with random people on youtube how do you expect them to be able to deal with our country?

On Rush's program today he announced this. He said the only people to accept are McCain and (guess who?) Ron Paul. McCain actually likes and respects Paul...and vice versa. Their debate would be very respectful. McCain has called Paul "the most honest man in washington."

cant wait to see the media spin this into a "great campaign strategy" or whatever.


Good for McCain if he said that and I give him props for not trying to avoid this debate. I'm hoping the rescheduling will either cause Romney and Giuliani to come or really show that they are avoiding this since CNN is catering to them here. I know it's to Giuliani and Romney's benefit to skip the debate since they are the frontrunners and it's common practice for frontrunners to avoid debates in the general election so that's how they'd spin it into "great campaign strategy." They both look scared of something here, and I hope this gets a lot of press that makes them look bad and doesn't praise them for sitting on their leads.

[megan]

Good for McCain if he said that and I give him props for not trying to avoid this debate. I'm hoping the rescheduling will either cause Romney and Giuliani to come or really show that they are avoiding this since CNN is catering to them here. I know it's to Giuliani and Romney's benefit to skip the debate since they are the frontrunners and it's common practice for frontrunners to avoid debates in the general election so that's how they'd spin it into "great campaign strategy." They both look scared of something here, and I hope this gets a lot of press that makes them look bad and doesn't praise them for sitting on their leads.

I secretly kind of hope they dont show, so ron paul can get more air time.
if they even broadcast it without the two supposed "front-runners."

[Ron Paul Fan]

I secretly kind of hope they dont show, so ron paul can get more air time.
if they even broadcast it without the two supposed "front-runners."

If they don't show and still air it without them I think that would be a great scenario as well. I hope that they would be criticized in the media for it. I think some of the 2nd tier candidates having problems with money will drop out before then anyway especially if they bomb in the Iowa straw poll so the debate would be opened up for Dr. Paul whether Giuliani and Romney show up or not. Hunter and Huckabee will probably be the next out. Not sure about T. Thompson, Brownback, and Tancredo though. They'll probably do well in the Iowa straw poll but have nowhere near the national support as Ron Paul.

[Bro.Butch]

None of the Republican candidates need to drop out before Tsunami Tuesday. They are all pro war and will split that vote up 9 ways allowing RP to possible win states as the only anti-war candidate in the Republican race. So don't let anyone drop out before Feb.6 !!! Okay ?

[Joe Knows]

McCain actually likes and respects Paul...and vice versa. Their debate would be very respectful. McCain has called Paul "the most honest man in washington."



I guess McCain has seen the writing on the wall and is angling to be Ron's VP.:)

[michaelwise]

This thread is too funny.

[ronpaulitician]

Methinks the Ron Paul campaign should use September 17th to create 5-10 ten-minute Ron Paul videos having him answer questions posed by the YouTube people. "If the frontrunners want to play games, and the mainstream media wants to go along with those games, the people will not be denied their answers."

[james1906]

Rudy AND Romney decline???

The cowards did it... they are just gonna flat out decline every debate where they can get attacked with real questions. The thing about Rudy is, he's been doing this his whole life - i'm sure his supporters won't really care that he dodged a debate. They are so brainwashed into believing that he's an american hero that they couldn't give a damn whether he skipped a debate or not.

If someone can't even deal with random people on youtube how do you expect them to be able to deal with our country?

On Rush's program today he announced this. He said the only people to accept are McCain and (guess who?) Ron Paul. McCain actually likes and respects Paul...and vice versa. Their debate would be very respectful. McCain has called Paul "the most honest man in washington."

cant wait to see the media spin this into a "great campaign strategy" or whatever.

sounds like mccain is trying to get back his 'maverick' image after 6+ years of serving as bush's smithers.

i would like a debate with just the two of them. a real discussion of the war without all the chickenhawks.

[Badger Paul]

I doubt is this debate will ever happen. The GOP really is taking the risk of becoming grandma and grandpa's political party if they keep this attutide they have about the internet. Young voters are dumping the GOP in droves.

Only RP can change that situation. That's what we have to stress to ordinary GOP voters and supporters. You're going to go down the tubes unless you support RP.

[UtahApocalypse]

This pisses me off more than anything that happened in this campaign. We have to fire up the e-mail and phone blitz. How dare presidential candidates not face the questions of American people. CNN doing this is crazy. I hope that Ron Paul and McCain will hold there own somewhere. Lets have a real debate, lets here all their views, and give them both equal time.