SeekLiberty
07-27-2007, 04:12 PM
The core philosophy of collectivism IS:
Collectivism holds that the needs and goals of the individual are subordinate to those of the larger group and should be sacrificed when the "collective good" so requires.
This applies to ANY social group, not just politics.
Collectivism is absolutely 100% untolerable and completely repugnant to Freedom and Individual Rights. It is the antithesis of Individualism.
Ron Paul is a Freedom loving man and would NEVER connect himself to collectivism in ANY WAY whatsoever.
Collectivism is 100% opposed to the Freedom message of our messenger, Ron Paul!
Collectivists would rather you focus on the messenger instead of the message.
Collectivists TRIED to be divisive by lambasting, scaring, and trying to convince others for forum policy to not talk about 9/11 even in the Hot Topics area ... MEANT for, well, hot topics such as 9/11.
Thankfully, when things got hot on these forums, the moderators didn't cave into group think and made the correct Freedom decision for individuals, instead of a collectivist decision for the "good" of the group.
Here's an example of how much Ron Paul just "loves" collectivism. :rolleyes:
(It so happens that Dr. Ron Paul is PERFECTLY describing the collectivism attitude of some of the collectivist critics here on these Ron Paul Forums ... especially over in the Hot Topics section.)
"They ignore, however, the incredible divisiveness created by their collectivist big-government policies.
Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individual who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their intense focus on race is inherently racist, because it views individuals only as members of racial groups.
Conservatives and libertarians should fight back and challenge the myth that collectivist liberals care more about racism. Modern liberalism, however well intentioned, is a byproduct of the same collectivist thinking that characterizes racism. The continued insistence on group thinking only inflames racial tensions.
The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity. In a free market, businesses that discriminate lose customers, goodwill, and valuable employees – while rational businesses flourish by choosing the most qualified employees and selling to all willing buyers. More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct what is essentially a sin of the heart, we should understand that reducing racism requires a shift from group thinking [collectivism] to an emphasis on individualism." - Ron Paul
Oh wow, what a surprise! :eek: Ron Paul supports individualism ... and despises collectivism. :rolleyes:
What Really Divides Us?
by Rep. Ron Paul, MD
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul68.html
So what really divides us here on the Ron Paul forums? Just ask Dr. Ron Paul!
Collectivism and the Collectivists.
- SL
Collectivism holds that the needs and goals of the individual are subordinate to those of the larger group and should be sacrificed when the "collective good" so requires.
This applies to ANY social group, not just politics.
Collectivism is absolutely 100% untolerable and completely repugnant to Freedom and Individual Rights. It is the antithesis of Individualism.
Ron Paul is a Freedom loving man and would NEVER connect himself to collectivism in ANY WAY whatsoever.
Collectivism is 100% opposed to the Freedom message of our messenger, Ron Paul!
Collectivists would rather you focus on the messenger instead of the message.
Collectivists TRIED to be divisive by lambasting, scaring, and trying to convince others for forum policy to not talk about 9/11 even in the Hot Topics area ... MEANT for, well, hot topics such as 9/11.
Thankfully, when things got hot on these forums, the moderators didn't cave into group think and made the correct Freedom decision for individuals, instead of a collectivist decision for the "good" of the group.
Here's an example of how much Ron Paul just "loves" collectivism. :rolleyes:
(It so happens that Dr. Ron Paul is PERFECTLY describing the collectivism attitude of some of the collectivist critics here on these Ron Paul Forums ... especially over in the Hot Topics section.)
"They ignore, however, the incredible divisiveness created by their collectivist big-government policies.
Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans only as members of groups and never as individuals. Racists believe that all individual who share superficial physical characteristics are alike; as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their intense focus on race is inherently racist, because it views individuals only as members of racial groups.
Conservatives and libertarians should fight back and challenge the myth that collectivist liberals care more about racism. Modern liberalism, however well intentioned, is a byproduct of the same collectivist thinking that characterizes racism. The continued insistence on group thinking only inflames racial tensions.
The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity. In a free market, businesses that discriminate lose customers, goodwill, and valuable employees – while rational businesses flourish by choosing the most qualified employees and selling to all willing buyers. More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct what is essentially a sin of the heart, we should understand that reducing racism requires a shift from group thinking [collectivism] to an emphasis on individualism." - Ron Paul
Oh wow, what a surprise! :eek: Ron Paul supports individualism ... and despises collectivism. :rolleyes:
What Really Divides Us?
by Rep. Ron Paul, MD
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul68.html
So what really divides us here on the Ron Paul forums? Just ask Dr. Ron Paul!
Collectivism and the Collectivists.
- SL