America WHAT is wrong with YOU!!!

[icon124]

Why isn't Ron Paul blowing away the competition right now...this guy stands for 100% of what is right, while NO OTHER CANDIDATE COMES CLOSE...I can't believe that the majority of America is still so misinformed

I was at that point at one time in my life too, but it only took me 5 minutes of watching Ron Paul to realize what was going on!!!!! WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP

Sorry for doing that, but I just had to...I try so hard everyday to spread RP's message, and it really shouldn't be as hard as it is...Why don't people want to be free? I will never understand how someone could be so deeply brainwashed to not want freedom

Anyway back to campaigning for RP everywhere I go...sorry for ranting, but sometimes I need to express my feelings about these brainwashed fellow Americans, where better to do it, everyone here knows how I feel as well :cool:...continue the efforts guys as this man may be one of our last hopes...I don't see anyone in the near future doing what RP can do....

[jstmike]

PROZAC! Maybe it is just like in the UK where it is now in their water supply because so many people take it:

http://mentalhealth.about.com/od/psychopharmacology/a/prozacuk804.htm

"Everything is just fine".

[cheese]

truth always wins. it doesnt need propping up or lies to survive. it permeates slowly yet unstoppably. we are in a battle against time. will your friends and neighbors find it soon enough?

[DAFTEK]

How They F-U 101. *video*
A must see, this should be forwarded to everyone! Amazing, Amazing. We are going broke by the end of next year we will be in full war with Iran, if you don't believe it, look at this video and connect the dots! Bush signed a $20 Billion to give in weapons to Saudi Arabia, meanwhile we are in a full recession!

Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byebxE9k4vo

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiRi2c141Qc

[shasshas]

it is very sad you are quite right :/

France might as well ASK FOR THE STATUE OF LIBERTY BACK
because obviously America just isn't good enough

ADIEU FAIR AMERICA!!!! YOUR GOLDEN LOCKS WERE GRAND BUT NOW THEY ARE GNARLY AND YOUR ARMPITS REALLY NEED COLOGNE!!!!!

[Derek Johnson]

Elvis was right, shoot the fucking TV set.

Yep, give the statue back to France, we don't deserve it anymore.

[icon124]

Elvis was right, shoot the fucking TV set.

Yep, give the statue back to France, we don't deserve it anymore.

hahahaha

[jblosser]

https://voters.ronpaul2008.com/

[EvilEngineer]

Americans for the most part are idiots... what can you expect with a nation who's average IQ is less than 100. The depth of their understanding of the presidential race is literally skin deep and comes down to decisions like "oh, he looks presidential", "his voice is annoying", and the worst "oh, I support him cause he's a Christian, like me" (only 1 candidate in this race isn't a Christian...)

Seriously, maybe it's time for a collapse and an 80% reduction of our population, gives us top 2% a chance to repopulate this place. Otherwise we will end up with a scenario like Idoitocracy....

If Dr. Paul does not win... I support the Apocalypse in 2009.

[dreicher]

average IQ is less than 100

I've never understood this statement.

[govtpigII]

See that little magic thing called a TV in your living room?? Well most people take it as the truth, it is possibly one of the greatest manipulators in history. It's almost as controlling as religion, and people have no idea.

Kind of sad.

[Gimme Some Truth]

average IQ is less than 100

I've never understood this statement.


:D

[Roadrcr]

Because Ron will expose these scum for what they are.

[Energy]

Television and Newspapers: Opiate of the Masses

[EvilEngineer]

I've never understood this statement.

It's simple really... this is the bar for average intelligence for comprehension, deductive reasoning, memory, etc. Basically an IQ of 100 is reflective of limited mental abilities, and thus poor decision making... the lower it gets the worse their reasoning skills become. Which is one reason the intellectual ideals of Dr. Paul are very hard to communicate to this voter block of idiots... it is beyond their understanding to comprehend it in its current state.

Dr. Paul needs to basically, "dumb down" the message so the rest of the public can understand. They have no interest nor understanding of complex fiscal policies, let alone how the government really works. It is one reason why the plain spoken Thompson and Joking Christian Huckabee have done so well... they can communicate to idiots.

[jereome]

See that little magic thing called a TV in your living room?? Well most people take it as the truth, it is possibly one of the greatest manipulators in history. It's almost as controlling as religion, and people have no idea.

Kind of sad.

Thats why I havent really sat down to watch T.V. in years.

Have I missed it? Rofl No..... and I can think more clearly than ever.

Besides I get much more enjoyment out of being on the computer with the little free time that I have.

[jereome]

It's simple really... this is the bar for average intelligence for comprehension, deductive reasoning, memory, etc. Basically an IQ of 100 is reflective of limited mental abilities, and thus poor decision making... the lower it gets the worse their reasoning skills become. Which is one reason the intellectual ideals of Dr. Paul are very hard to communicate to this voter block of idiots... it is beyond their understanding to comprehend it in its current state.

Dr. Paul needs to basically, "dumb down" the message so the rest of the public can understand. They have no interest nor understanding of complex fiscal policies, let alone how the government really works. It is one reason why the plain spoken Thompson and Joking Christian Huckabee have done so well... they can communicate to idiots.

Actually I am the opposite, I dont think that Americans are stupid but they are too lazy to use what God gave them.

Can you blame most of them though considering that most people that I know work their arse off 60+ hours a week just to make ends meet, and the last thing they want to worry about when they get home is politics.

[Sandy]

Americans for the most part are idiots... what can you expect with a nation who's average IQ is less than 100. The depth of their understanding of the presidential race is literally skin deep and comes down to decisions like "oh, he looks presidential", "his voice is annoying", and the worst "oh, I support him cause he's a Christian, like me" (only 1 candidate in this race isn't a Christian...)

Seriously, maybe it's time for a collapse and an 80% reduction of our population, gives us top 2% a chance to repopulate this place. Otherwise we will end up with a scenario like Idoitocracy....

If Dr. Paul does not win... I support the Apocalypse in 2009.

LMAO, have to send this off to my brother, an RP supporter. Sigh, population reduction must not include RP supporters. :D Idiotocracy will again result if they are not around to reproduce.

[Thom1776]

They have been at this for a long time.

They start indoctrinating us at an early age.

Most Americans aren't stupid, they are just thoroughly brainwashed.

Ever see the movie :"They Live"? It's a pretty good analogy of what the world is really like.

The real revolution is Free Energy. They keep us enslaved mostly by making us pay for energy. When we develop home generators to power our houses for free, and similar technology for our cars, we will be so much freer because of all the money that we won't be paying for energy that we can now use for other things. Ever wonder why any time someone comes up with a new invention for free or very cheap energy that they are either bought out, disappear or even die? Because the ENTIRE WORLD has to pay for energy and that's one golden goose that they do NOT want to give up.

[Mini-Me]

It's simple really... this is the bar for average intelligence for comprehension, deductive reasoning, memory, etc. Basically an IQ of 100 is reflective of limited mental abilities, and thus poor decision making... the lower it gets the worse their reasoning skills become. Which is one reason the intellectual ideals of Dr. Paul are very hard to communicate to this voter block of idiots... it is beyond their understanding to comprehend it in its current state.

Dr. Paul needs to basically, "dumb down" the message so the rest of the public can understand. They have no interest nor understanding of complex fiscal policies, let alone how the government really works. It is one reason why the plain spoken Thompson and Joking Christian Huckabee have done so well... they can communicate to idiots.

Actually, 100 is the average IQ by definition. The entire idea of IQ is built around that. Even if everyone in the entire world had an IQ of 250 by today's standards, the average would still be 100.

That said, it could potentially make sense to say that Americans have an average IQ lower than 100, so long as you take into account worldwide IQ's (i.e. the worldwide average is 100, but the American average could be lower).

However, you are correct that Ron Paul's ideas are very difficult for most people to comprehend. This is a very good thread, I think. Most people simply have short attention spans and they're too self-involved or apathetic to pay attention. Even among those who are politically active, certain parts of Ron Paul's platform are very hard sells, since they challenge people to confront and reverse some very deeply-held assumptions. When you force people to consider ideas contrary to their core assumptions and beliefs, they tend to close off and become emotional and irrational. The problem is not that they're stupid; there are some very intelligent people who absolutely hate everything that Ron Paul stands for. The real problem is that people in general let their emotions dominate their judgment.

For Democrats and liberals, the idea of unfettered* free market economics is a very hard sell. We've been conditioned to think that today's system is the same as free market capitalism, so that has divided our population into two main camps:
1.) Generally speaking, "conservatives" are too blind to see that something's wrong with the system - "I'm not poor, so the system's fine! People are just lazy!" I grew up around this mentality, and as such, I used to be one of these people.
2.) Liberals, on the other hand, are generally smart enough to see that something is seriously wrong with our wealth distribution. Unfortunately, they take the failure of the current system to mean that capitalism itself naturally results in the exploitation of workers and consumers. Hence, they lean towards more and more socialistic ideas to solve these problems...after realizing the error of my ways, I quite predictably became one of these people.
It's very hard to convince the first group that there's a problem in the first place, and it's probably even harder to convince the second that the problem is government involvement. Much like many members here when they hear something they don't like, this second group will be suspicious of your motives for supporting capitalism. Rather than listen to your arguments, they'll either assume you're part of the "stupid" first group or, worse, that you're "one of the bad guys" - an infiltrator or troll, if you will. ;) This second group is strongly convinced that more regulations will result in a breakdown of the atrocious income gap, and it's very hard for them to accept the fact that megacorporations love government involvement and regulations (and essentially come up with them themselves, due to widespread corruption).

For Republicans and "conservatives," the ideas of pulling out of Iraq, ending the War on Terror, restoring Constitutional civil liberties, ending the War on Drugs, and ending our imperialistic interventionist foreign policy are all hard sells (The last is one liberals have a hard time with, too - and judging by their views on gun rights, they'd also likely have a hard time with the civil liberties part if it hadn't been Bush who took them away.) This is because we've been taught from birth onwards that we are the greatest country on earth, that we can do no wrong, that we're the "shining city on the hill," etc. We learned early on that America has not always been right (our treatment of native Americans), but we were always left to believe that these injustices are over, and that America learned from them. We've been indoctrinated with a lifetime of propaganda saying that it's patriotic to believe we're the greatest, and that anyone who says otherwise is clearly unpatriotic at best and a "traitorous blame America first liberal" at worst. Cultural
The major point I'm trying to make is this...
Yes, our nation has been brainwashed and indoctrinated into false ideologies. Yes, we have indeed been manipulated by media propaganda...and yes, Ron Paul has gotten consistently screwed over by the media. However, the primary reason why it's so hard to get people to wake up is a simple one: Regardless of their intelligence, most people have very hostile emotional responses to any idea that challenges their deeply-held assumptions about the way the world works (or should work). Emotion simply dominates reason, and it takes a lot of work to get through to people...especially a lot of people.
conservatives are always harping on about how people need to take personal responsibility for their actions, yet they're so blinded by their fierce nationalism (emotions) on these issues that they are unable to recognize the injustices we perpetrate worldwide in the name of pursuing our short-term interests (or perhaps the long-term interests of globalist bankers, who get rich as hell off of warfare). People hardly ever want to do a critical self-examination and consider, "What if we're not actually the good guys in this instance?" It's far easier to stereotype people on the other side of the world as evil, crazy fundamentalists than it is to think evil exists in our own actions. It's far easier to think that "they hate us for our freedoms" than to reason that they hate us because of our unconditional support of Israel (no matter what stupid antics they pull) and our meddlesome foreign policy. Very few people are aware that our military is so expensive and spread so thinly not because we're well-defended, but because we're trying to manage a worldwide empire and occupy 130 countries. People in America see absolute extremists like Osama Bin Laden and think, "Oh no, they're out to get us! We have to stop this, at any cost!" They're simply unable to understand how our interventionist policies gave rise to these guys and their support base in the first place, and furthermore, they're unable to see how our continuing involvement only draws more to their extremist causes now. Intellectually, it takes far less effort to fiercely hate our enemies and use the military as a wrecking ball to "fight on their home turf" than it is to realize that we are creating our enemies through our own actions. Similarly, when propaganda paints these enemies as existential threats to our way of life, people become scared out of their pants. They'll let their government do anything in the name of protecting them, and that includes ignoring all of their inalienable rights ("What? Of course we're still free!"). They let their emotions cloud their judgment. Their "I have nothing to hide!" mentality completely misses the point of liberty, but that's what we get for allowing feel-good jingoistic nationalism to eclipse Enlightenment ideals as the essence of Americanism. For generations, our school system has not taught us enough about the true nature of patriotism and heroism. This blame can be placed partly on the federal government and the Department of Education for controlling curriculum in public schools, but even private schools fail to keep the radical spark of liberty alive...

Now, abolishing the Federal Reserve and the IRS, those are ideas that people from all over the political spectrum can't stomach. Everyone knows that we have a terrible debt, and everyone knows we're headed down the wrong road. Everyone has an uneasy feeling about it, but we've been conditioned for so long to think this is somehow normal that most people are just unable to recognize the gravity of our situation. It's not that they are too stupid to understand it; it's simply that the truth is too much of an emotional shock for them to accept. It's far easier to retreat back into their feel-good bubble and believe the "positive, optimistic" economic prognoses of mainstream politicians. After all, we're far too technologically and sociologically advanced to ever let anything bad happen, right? It's far easier to assume "it'll get handled somehow...everything is going to be alright." The actual solution to this problem is such a radical departure from the status quo that it seems absolutely crazy to most people (especially since they think the government gets the entirety of its income from the IRS, a myth the IRS isn't in much of a hurry to dispell). We've had the Fed and a central bank for almost a hundred years! We're just so used to it that most people cannot imagine life without it. Hence, they resist.

The major point I'm trying to make is this...
Yes, our nation has been brainwashed and indoctrinated into false ideologies. Yes, we have indeed been manipulated by media propaganda...and yes, Ron Paul has gotten consistently screwed over by the media. However, the primary reason why it's so hard to get people to wake up is a simple one: Regardless of their intelligence, most people have a very hostile emotional response to any idea that challenges their deeply-held assumptions about the way the world works (or should work). Emotion simply dominates reason, and it takes a lot of work to get through to people...especially a lot of people.

*Or even just mostly unfettered - I do support statewide antitrust laws so long as federal copyright and patent laws persist, since they themselves are unnatural forces that can potentially prop up coercive monopolies. Also, a statewide minimum wage is something that needs to be phased out slowly (as the economy and job openings grow to soak up all of our excess labor), since the current systems of inflation and corporate welfare have severely hampered competition. Even after these terrible policies are abandoned, it will still take some years for competition to rise up and naturally raise the demand for workers to match the supply (which will raise market wages to living wages and make minimum wage an obsolete crutch).

[Lord Xar]

Why isn't Ron Paul blowing away the competition right now...this guy stands for 100% of what is right, while NO OTHER CANDIDATE COMES CLOSE...I can't believe that the majority of America is still so misinformed

I was at that point at one time in my life too, but it only took me 5 minutes of watching Ron Paul to realize what was going on!!!!! WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP

Sorry for doing that, but I just had to...I try so hard everyday to spread RP's message, and it really shouldn't be as hard as it is...Why don't people want to be free? I will never understand how someone could be so deeply brainwashed to not want freedom

Anyway back to campaigning for RP everywhere I go...sorry for ranting, but sometimes I need to express my feelings about these brainwashed fellow Americans, where better to do it, everyone here knows how I feel as well :cool:...continue the efforts guys as this man may be one of our last hopes...I don't see anyone in the near future doing what RP can do....

The reason is simple. In general terms.. think of it this way..

For every dollar Hillary receives from donations --
she gets 5 dollars in free MSM coverage

For every dollar Ron Paul receives from donations --
He gets .07cents in free MSM coverage
.04 cents of that is negative coverage


Remember, just sit and think -- WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA. Nothing is truly wrong with America in that when given a set of choices, they choose. That is the real issue. The MSM is choosing a stable of candidates and America chooses among the flavors. Same vendor serving it up - just different flavors. Some of us don't want ice cream so we walk a few more blocks. But most go to the same ice-cream truck.

We need money and we need boots on the ground. We need to be our own MAIN STREAM GRASSROOTS = MSG :)

[coffeewithchess]

I've wondered this myself...but what is wrong is that plain and simple, Americans are lazy in regards to politics. We have trusted the stupid television and we don't read after getting out of high school(much less in high school for some). We sit back knowing more about who is going to the SuperBowl than who is raising my taxes or printing my money. We know more about Halo3, than we do our Representatives...we have the government we deserve.

[m72mc]

average IQ is less than 100


I've never understood this statement.

LOL :D

[robofx]

...most people that I know work their arse off 60+ hours a week just to make ends meet, and the last thing they want to worry about when they get home is politics.

If the Constitution were legalized, they could WORK LESS and HAVE MORE.

[HillbillyDan]

They have been at this for a long time.

They start indoctrinating us at an early age.

Most Americans aren't stupid, they are just thoroughly brainwashed.

Ever see the movie :"They Live"? It's a pretty good analogy of what the world is really like.

The real revolution is Free Energy. They keep us enslaved mostly by making us pay for energy. When we develop home generators to power our houses for free, and similar technology for our cars, we will be so much freer because of all the money that we won't be paying for energy that we can now use for other things. Ever wonder why any time someone comes up with a new invention for free or very cheap energy that they are either bought out, disappear or even die? Because the ENTIRE WORLD has to pay for energy and that's one golden goose that they do NOT want to give up.


Finally some said it! It is all about letting the average person in on the current technology. To date, I have seen videos on Youtube that portray cars running on: Water, Salt Water, Vegetable Oil, and Air, that's right, free Air!

Thank you evil engineer, you hit the nail smack on the head. Now just watch your back, because that is the one piece of information TPTB cannot let out. This genie just won't go back in the bottle after it is loosed.

[deedles]

I agree with the willful ignorance theory.... although I have met folks that cannot grasp a concept without serious repetition.

I have literally had some of the people I work with tell me "I don't want to be smart... my life is much easier if I'm not." Few seem able or willing to draw a picture of the whole situation from the individual pieces of information. I've just about given up talking to work people... I figure I've told them everything I know and if they don't want to pursue more information on their own time, what the heck can I do further?

It's also laziness. So far their life isn't going badly so they have no reason to upset the apple cart.