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Knightskye
01-17-2008, 02:46 AM
The following are from the Declaration of Independence:


He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

Signing statements?


He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

California and the EPA?


He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

SCHIP? (It sounded like that to me. Feel free to critique.)


He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

I don't remember when, but Bush and Cheney testified somewhere together, and notes couldn't be taken, and they didn't have to be under oath.


He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

Signing statements again.


He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

Let's hope he doesn't do this one. :D


He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

Well, Bush is kind of doing the opposite of this one. Not even trying to keep them out.


He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

DoJ says the wiretaps are illegal, he keeps doing them.


He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

Not yet.


He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

Department of Homeland Security. :eek:


He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

Not that I know of.


He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

Blackwater much?


He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

"...jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution..." - preemptive war? Torture? Iraqi Peace Agreement? SPP?


For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

:rolleyes:


For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

Cuba?


For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

Inflation tax! ;)


For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

Enemy combatant?


For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

Enemy combatant!?


For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

Katrina?


For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act...


For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

Hope not. :)


He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
Well, "abdicated government"? My Pet Goat?


He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

Well... screwed with the lives of our people. I don't know about destroyed.

But doesn't it seem eerily similar? And our forefathers went to war to get independence from this man. Makes you think. :o

dblee
01-17-2008, 02:56 AM
you forgot taxation without representation.

Knightskye
01-20-2008, 03:43 AM
you forgot taxation without representation.

I went by this:
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/declaration_transcript.html

And I did a CTRL-F for "taxation", but it didn't find anything. :O