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icon124
01-16-2008, 12:18 PM
I thought I could ask this here because a lot of people know about this type of stuff...Of course I know RP isn't, but are any candidates connected to the CFR at all?

If so please elaborate, thanks.

MrCobaltBlue
01-16-2008, 12:21 PM
If by any you mean all of them? Then yes.

AnalogDan
01-16-2008, 12:22 PM
YES. Michelle Obama is on the board fo directors in Chicago for the CFR. Boo. This is bad.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/12/michelle_obama200712

Ethek
01-16-2008, 12:22 PM
If by any you mean all of them? Then yes.

funny because its true.

icon124
01-16-2008, 12:22 PM
If by any you mean all of them? Then yes.

oh wow...i mean i knew a few were for sure, but ALL of them...

That's it...if RP doesn't win I'm moving to another country...any recommendations?

deedles
01-16-2008, 12:23 PM
it's easier to ask which candidates aren't connected to CFR.

ronpaulfan
01-16-2008, 12:26 PM
Huckabee = CFR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_BucPcJrHI

DealzOnWheelz
01-16-2008, 12:26 PM
Huckabee is not a member but his foreign policy advisor is the Head of the CFR

iamvoodoo
01-16-2008, 12:28 PM
Huckabee is not a member but his foreign policy advisor is the Head of the CFR

That's even worse

coffeewithchess
01-16-2008, 12:29 PM
oh wow...i mean i knew a few were for sure, but ALL of them...

That's it...if RP doesn't win I'm moving to another country...any recommendations?

Doesn't RP mention Switzerland as a country he likes?

ConstitutionGal
01-16-2008, 12:31 PM
Huckster was also a complete nonentity until he gave a speech at the CFR HQ in NY then, magically, the MSM began pushing him as a 'top-tier' candidate. I can't come up with any other explanation besides "insiders".

Did you catch the looks and body language of the other candidates on stage during the bebate in SC where Dr. Paul actually brought up the CFR? Go look up the YouTubes...it will telll you quite a bit.

Grandson of Liberty
01-16-2008, 12:53 PM
Doesn't RP mention Switzerland as a country he likes?

good luck getting in. :cool:

Maltheus
01-16-2008, 12:59 PM
Who cares? It's just an organization people join. It's not like they're bound to it's dictates. People are going way overboard on the influence of the CFR. All I care about, is are they honest and are they saying the right things. If Ron Paul was CFR, I'd still vote for him.

Now the bilderbergers, on the other hand... just kidding. ;)

LBennett76
01-16-2008, 12:59 PM
I'm looking for someplace warm. New Hampshire and Vermont are too cold to join the Free State Project. Switzerland, Sweden, all too cold.

I was thinking someplace like New Zealand. Warm and gorgeous. And you never really hear much about it except for its use in movie settings.

romeshomey
01-16-2008, 01:00 PM
I thought I could ask this here because a lot of people know about this type of stuff...Of course I know RP isn't, but are any candidates connected to the CFR at all?

If so please elaborate, thanks.

Here are some links to help the answer to your question.

CFR Members currently running for President

Democrats:

John Edwards
http://www.cfr.org/bios/9641/john_edwards.html

Hilary Clinton
http://www.cfr.org/bios/8211/hillary_rodham_clinton.html

Barack Obama
http://www.cfr.org/bios/11603/barack_obama.html

Republicans

Mitt Romney
http://www.cfr.org/bios/13226/mitt_romney.html

John McCain
http://www.cfr.org/bios/662/john_mccain.html

Mike Huckabee
http://www.cfr.org/bios/13301/mike_huckabee.html

Fred Thompson
http://www.cfr.org/bios/8702/fred_thompson.html

Rudy Giuliani
http://www.cfr.org/bios/10534/rudolph_giuliani.html

thomaspaine23
01-16-2008, 01:06 PM
oh wow...i mean i knew a few were for sure, but ALL of them...

That's it...if RP doesn't win I'm moving to another country...any recommendations?

If I remember correctly the last 2 candidates who were not associated with the CFR which got a major party nomination were :

1 Barry Goldwater
2 Ronald Reagan

So only one president int the last 40+ years who was not a CFR guy.
(and he almost got assassinated....)

LBennett76
01-16-2008, 01:09 PM
Here are some links to help the answer to your question.

CFR Members currently running for President

Democrats:

John Edwards
http://www.cfr.org/bios/9641/john_edwards.html

Hilary Clinton
http://www.cfr.org/bios/8211/hillary_rodham_clinton.html

Barack Obama
http://www.cfr.org/bios/11603/barack_obama.html

Republicans

Mitt Romney
http://www.cfr.org/bios/13226/mitt_romney.html

John McCain
http://www.cfr.org/bios/662/john_mccain.html

Mike Huckabee
http://www.cfr.org/bios/13301/mike_huckabee.html

Fred Thompson
http://www.cfr.org/bios/8702/fred_thompson.html

Rudy Giuliani
http://www.cfr.org/bios/10534/rudolph_giuliani.html



They have a page for Ron Paul too.
http://www.cfr.org/bios/13303/ron_paul.html

Does it say somewhere in their bios if they are part of the CFR?

MN Patriot
01-16-2008, 01:22 PM
Huckster was also a complete nonentity until he gave a speech at the CFR HQ in NY then, magically, the MSM began pushing him as a 'top-tier' candidate. I can't come up with any other explanation besides "insiders".

Did you catch the looks and body language of the other candidates on stage during the bebate in SC where Dr. Paul actually brought up the CFR? Go look up the YouTubes...it will telll you quite a bit.

Yes, Huckabee was completely unknown by anyone, just like Clinton in 1991, until they sought out the CFR.

limequat
01-16-2008, 01:50 PM
Dennis Kucinich is not affiliated with the CFR. This is why we respect him as a fellow truth-teller, even though his economic are all f'd up.

I believe Gravel and Dodd are also clean.

fluoridatedbrainsoup
01-16-2008, 02:00 PM
Paul would never be a member of an organization that promotes one-world government. It doesn't jive with liberty and sovereignty for anybody but an elite few, who are not interested in money, because they print the stuff, but power. Love of money is why their orcs (Frank Luntz is an example) are so eager to give away everything for this agenda.

free.alive
01-16-2008, 02:14 PM
If I remember correctly the last 2 candidates who were not associated with the CFR which got a major party nomination were :

1 Barry Goldwater
2 Ronald Reagan

So only one president int the last 40+ years who was not a CFR guy.
(and he almost got assassinated....)


This is very interesting and quite plausible. If you can get a source for this, it would be interesting to use against these guys.

free.alive
01-16-2008, 02:19 PM
There must be ways that this information can be used against these candidates.

FACT:

Bob Dole's campaign in WA in 1996 was derailed because ONE connected GOP member got information out about the CFR and his relationship to it. This person doesn't see the political value of this tactic in this election for WA, but maybe you can identify connected people in your state that can utilize this information as a tool to kick the legs out from under the other candidates.

It's totally consistent for the Leftist Dems to be members, but this is something that Republicans (at least those who cared) traditionally were against.

NoMoreApathy
01-16-2008, 02:24 PM
oh wow...i mean i knew a few were for sure, but ALL of them...

That's it...if RP doesn't win I'm moving to another country...any recommendations?

Switzerland.

NoMoreApathy
01-16-2008, 02:26 PM
good luck getting in. :cool:

Why? Hard to get in, or become a citizen?

roguepatriot
01-16-2008, 02:28 PM
http://www.fightingimmigrationanarchy.com/why_i_joined_the_ron_paul_revolution.htm

steph3n
01-16-2008, 02:29 PM
Doesn't RP mention Switzerland as a country he likes?

they are going down the drain fast, turning into an EU police state.

steph3n
01-16-2008, 02:31 PM
They have a page for Ron Paul too.
http://www.cfr.org/bios/13303/ron_paul.html

Does it say somewhere in their bios if they are part of the CFR?

they have a bio for all the candidate :D

using those as sources is a bad idea for sure. For the most part I really like RP's Bio there on the CFR site

InLoveWithRon
01-16-2008, 02:35 PM
Who cares? It's just an organization people join. It's not like they're bound to it's dictates. . ;)

Absolutely ridiculous.. You have no idea what the CFR represents, entails, and how they have governed most of the world, and all of any major US policies,

Not to mention assassinating US presidents who stepped out of line.. If you see what Kennedy did to them just months before his assassination.. As well as heard his speech revealing the secret society of the CFR, then you may start to get it..

There have been alot of president who have admitted how the CFR controls their decisions.. Actually, they make their decisions for them.. From Woodrow Wilson to Eisenhower to Kennedy up until today.. In fact, they are more powerful today than ever.. They are untouchable. Presidents are just puppets. The phrase "The American president is the most powerful man in the world" is one of the big lies out there.

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NoMoreApathy
01-16-2008, 02:35 PM
they are going down the drain fast, turning into an EU police state.

But they aren't a member of the EU.

sedele
01-16-2008, 04:28 PM
I'm in the process of reading this book
http://www.radioliberty.com/btsop.jpg

From the book's back cover:

"Does America have a hidden oligarchy? Is U.S. foreign policy run by a closed shop? What is the Council on Foreign Relations? It began in 1921 as a front organization for J.P. Morgan and Company. By World War II it had acquired unrivaled influence on American foreign policy. Hundreds of U.S. government administrators and diplomats have been drawn from its ranks - regardless of which party has occupied the White House. But what does the Council on Foreign Relations stand for? Why do the major media avoid discussing it? What has been its impact on America's past - and what is it planning for the future? These questions and more are answered by James Perloff in The Shadows of Power"

Read the following laudatory reviews:

"Wake up America! This book could be titled "Suppressed American History of the 20th Century." Perloff traces the history of the American Establishment, through its political arm, the Council on Foreign Relations. The aims of the CFR and the Establishment are clear - a World Government, removal of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. What is more frightening is the Establishment control of the media and education. Please read this book! You will never watch the news the same way again." [This reviewer gave the book a '5 star review']

"Excellent and timely. Mr. Perloff presents a well documented and thoughtful portrayal of American history through the lens one of who understands the insidiousness of the Establishment. This should be required reading in high schools throughout America. I make this last comment as the concerned parent of teenagers who are being taught history from a decidely globalist and socialist perspective in our schools, which are paid for with hard earned capitalist dollars. It is truly a shame.

Perloff describes beautifully and with a proper sense of wonder some of the history of John Birch. Yes, this is the same man for whom the society is named. If you don't know this story of courage and faith, it alone is well worth the price of the book. Read. Learn. And spread the word." [This reviewer also gave the book a '5 star review']

"You must read this! This isn't one of those "aliens are probing us!" conspiracy books. This is a very detailed and FACTUAL book. There are several references to back the facts printed in this book. I've read this book twice (probably read it again) now and can't get over the painstaking detail provided" [This reviewer also gave the book a '5 star review']

A fascinating introduction to, and historical overview of, the immensely-influential and powerful organisation which has rightfully been called "America's secret government"!



http://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Power-Council-Relations-American/dp/0882791346

So far I highly recommend it.

InLoveWithRon
01-16-2008, 04:36 PM
I'm in the process of reading this book
http://www.radioliberty.com/btsop.jpg

From the book's back cover:

"Does America have a hidden oligarchy? Is U.S. foreign policy run by a closed shop? What is the Council on Foreign Relations? It began in 1921 as a front organization for J.P. Morgan and Company. By World War II it had acquired unrivaled influence on American foreign policy. Hundreds of U.S. government administrators and diplomats have been drawn from its ranks - regardless of which party has occupied the White House. But what does the Council on Foreign Relations stand for? Why do the major media avoid discussing it? What has been its impact on America's past - and what is it planning for the future? These questions and more are answered by James Perloff in The Shadows of Power"

Read the following laudatory reviews:

"Wake up America! This book could be titled "Suppressed American History of the 20th Century." Perloff traces the history of the American Establishment, through its political arm, the Council on Foreign Relations. The aims of the CFR and the Establishment are clear - a World Government, removal of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. What is more frightening is the Establishment control of the media and education. Please read this book! You will never watch the news the same way again." [This reviewer gave the book a '5 star review']

"Excellent and timely. Mr. Perloff presents a well documented and thoughtful portrayal of American history through the lens one of who understands the insidiousness of the Establishment. This should be required reading in high schools throughout America. I make this last comment as the concerned parent of teenagers who are being taught history from a decidely globalist and socialist perspective in our schools, which are paid for with hard earned capitalist dollars. It is truly a shame.

Perloff describes beautifully and with a proper sense of wonder some of the history of John Birch. Yes, this is the same man for whom the society is named. If you don't know this story of courage and faith, it alone is well worth the price of the book. Read. Learn. And spread the word." [This reviewer also gave the book a '5 star review']

"You must read this! This isn't one of those "aliens are probing us!" conspiracy books. This is a very detailed and FACTUAL book. There are several references to back the facts printed in this book. I've read this book twice (probably read it again) now and can't get over the painstaking detail provided" [This reviewer also gave the book a '5 star review']

A fascinating introduction to, and historical overview of, the immensely-influential and powerful organisation which has rightfully been called "America's secret government"!



http://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Power-Council-Relations-American/dp/0882791346

So far I highly recommend it.

Instead of a tax cut, I'd much rather every american receive that book.. Way WAY too many people are in the dark when it comes to the truth and who runs their country, takes their money via taxes and the fed, kills their kids in wars, permanently injured via wars, jails people by their "war on drugs" BS agenda etc.. The list goes on and on and on.. And so do the lies..

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IcyPeaceMaker
01-16-2008, 04:45 PM
This link shows campaign contributions for all the candidates, you can search the site for their actual contributers, which will reveal the ones who are CFR: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/
But, I can tell you that All Republicans EXCEPT Ron Paul are CFR, and most of the dems are too. If they get AIPAC money, they are bought and paid for.

InLoveWithRon
01-16-2008, 04:47 PM
"Rarely do we find men who willingly engage in hard, solid thinking. There is an almost universal quest for easy answers and half-baked solutions. Nothing pains some people more than having to think"

"The ultimate tragedy is not the oppression and cruelty by the bad people but the silence over that by good people"

"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it"

Martin Luther King

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Laja
01-16-2008, 04:58 PM
they have a bio for all the candidate :D

using those as sources is a bad idea for sure. For the most part I really like RP's Bio there on the CFR site

I agree, a good page with information on Ron Paul's stands!