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WannaBfree
07-25-2007, 11:26 PM
very positive article at a gambling odds website:

"...this is the first campaign where the Internet and its power may truly be coming into its own. Many in political circles say that the debates can never go back to old form following the sometimes quirky CNN/YouTube Debate of this past Monday. Perhaps with YouTube, Digg and other novel Internet resources, we may never go back to referencing polls again..."

Times Asks "Can Either Mike Gravel or Ron Paul Win?"
http://www.gambling911.com/Mike-Gravel-Ron-Paul-072507.html


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bygone
07-25-2007, 11:31 PM
The article makes a good point there. I'm quite interested to see how internet support - or the lack of it - translates into the real world.

Ninja Homer
07-26-2007, 12:42 AM
Minnesotans know what the Internet can do for a campaign. I'm sure MSM knows it too, but they sure aren't admitting it. When you can reach people that don't normally follow politics, don't normally vote, and don't normally get polled and you can get them to come out and vote for you, polls don't mean squat.

I never thought I'd compare Ron Paul to a wrestler, but Ron Paul's campaign has a lot of similarities with Jesse Ventura's campaign for governor of Minnesota; carrying younger voters as well as people who feel disenfranchised and using the Internet to do it. I'm sure you'll find these links very interesting and encouraging, and it should help answer how Internet support translates to voting day:

http://slashdot.org/features/98/11/13/1152240.shtml
http://www.salon.com/news/1998/11/06newsb.html
http://www.salon.com/news/1998/10/30newsa.html

PS - It irks me how MSM refers to "real world" and "Internet" as 2 separate entities, as if the Internet is some imaginary place with imaginary people.

bygone
07-26-2007, 01:07 AM
PS - It irks me how MSM refers to "real world" and "Internet" as 2 separate entities, as if the Internet is some imaginary place with imaginary people.

Those links were a good read. Thanks for that. Seems the internet and radio can be a very powerful combination at times.

The real world and the internet are often considered two seperate entities and in a lot of cases you can look at it that way. You can, because, often, internet energy often does not translate into the real world, at least not when that translation requires action. Talk is cheap, and the internet is all talk. There has been increasing evidence to suggest that in the last few years as the population of the internet has really exploded that this understanding of the internet is outdated, and becomes more outdated every year.

Are we finally at that magical point where the internet has grown so much that the MSM, and indeed the real world has to recognize its power and influence as equal to that of the real world?

I have been on the internet for over 20 years. Never before have I seen the internet have such an effect on events. We may very well have reached that point, where the MSM will have to admit that the people, through the internet, have a voice that absolutely cannot be ignored.

If thats the case all I can really say is "It's about damn time."