Matt Collins
01-15-2008, 03:07 PM
This came across my e-mail a bit ago and wanted to run it by everyone here:
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Folks,
I have not had the time to do my own research on a question I have asked a couple times but Martha found the time and sent this which doesn't really answer the question (I suspect that no one wants it to be answered) but it does bring up the possibility that MITT ROMNEY MAY WELL BE A CLOSET ANCHOR BABY.
My question has been - since George Romney was born in Mexico and re-entered America with his mother while fleeing across the border due to some uprising in Mexico at the time - When and where did George Romney obtain American citizenship. Did he need to? Since this was a point brought up shortly before George Romney bowed out of his run for the presidency I have always wondered if he was, in fat, a Legal American citizen. I have never seen a satisfactory explanation to that question. My point is that if George Romney was not a legal American citizen that would make Mitt Romney a *Closet ANCHOR BABY*
Why is this issue ignored by the media and all others? It is a legitimate question that if there is no secrets being covered over could be answered easily.
Let's all send Lou Dobbs and CNN this question and see if any of them cover it. wanna place any bets? hahahaha
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There is this, on George Romney and citizenship, with some interesting observations from commentors. There is nothing so far on his having become a citizen at all. Either he was considered a natural citizen, or was not one at all !!!! It looks like his citizenship was presumed and assumed?
Maybe you have already seen this post:
Pensito Review: Politics and Media Pensito Review: Politics and Media (http://www.pensitoreview.com/)
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Romney’s Mexico-Born Father Made Quixotic Run against Nixon and Reagan in ‘68 (http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/05/15/romneys-mexico-born-father-made-quixotic-run-in-68/)
Jon Ponder | May. 15, 2007
[]Like George W. Bush, Mitt Romney is an Eastern elite whose father was a famous political figure. George W. Romney had a high-profile private sector job, as C.E.O of American Motors, manufacturer of the Rambler, before serving as governor of Michigan for three terms.
In 1968, Gov. Romney ran for the Republican nomination against Richard Nixon, who won that year, and Ronald Reagan, who went on to win in 1980. But what George Romney is best remembered for is being tripped up on a statement about his support for the Vietnam War:
Romney told a news reporter that he had been “brainwashed” by the military and the diplomatic corps into supporting the Vietnam War. As the year 1968 opened, Romney was opposed to further American intervention in Vietnam and had decided to run as the Republican version of [antiwar Democrat] Gene McCarthy. Romney’s support faded slowly, and he withdrew from the race on February 28, 1968..
But even if he had won the presidency, George Romney would have faced a constitutional question before he could be sworn in. Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution, which says “No person except a natural born citizen … shall be eligible to the office of president”* prohibits people born in foreign countries from serving as president, and he was born in Chihuahua, Mexico, into a renegade sect of polygamous Mormons.
George Romney’s grandfather, Miles Park Romney, had five wives, and had moved the family to Mexico when polygamy became a federal crime in the United States. (It was a crime in Mexico, too, but was largely ignored in remote areas.) However, when the Mexican Revolution broke out in 1910, when George was about three years old, the famly returned to the United States, eventually ending up in Salt Lake City, Utah.
In 1969, Pres. Nixon appointed Romney as secretary of Housing and Urban Development, a post he held until 1973.
*Update: Corrected citation from the Constitution that prohibits foreign-born presidents. H/t: Bob Sakowski in comments.
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“The 14th Amendment prohibits people born in foreign countries from serving as president…”
Where, exactly, does the 14th say that?
Comment by Bob Sakowski | May. 15, 2007, 7:53 am |
14th Amendment says naturalized citizens cannot become president. George Romney was a citizen from birth as both his oarents were citizens.
For the record, Obama was born in Singapore but is a natural born American citizena dn thus eligible for the presidencv.
Comment by Jeanne Matthews | May. 16, 2007, 5:52 pm |
Answering myself:
According to this commentary http://www.newsmax.com/lowell_ponte/John_McCain/2007/07/16/18349.html
the 1st Congress in 1790 passed a law stating that
“The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens of the United States.”
But since it is not in the Constitution itself, George Romney’s case would have had to be decided in the Supreme Court.
John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone. Panama ceded “control” over the Zone to the US, but it was not in the “United States.” I doubt anyone would challenge McCain if he ran * but who knows these days?
Comment by Norbert Hirschhorn | Nov. 3, 2007, 10:45 am |
My previous email didn’t post. Just to say that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961; Hawaii became a state in 1959.
The 14th amendment doesn’t use the term “natural born citizen” but redefines citizenship: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
Persons who served in an official capacity in the US, swearing loyalty to the Constitution, and then joined the Confederacy, were made ineligible to rejoin the US in any office; but Congress by a 2/3 vote could remove the disability. In 1978 Congress posthumously did so for Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis.
Comment by Norbert Hirschhorn | Nov. 3, 2007, 10:50 am |
_________________________________
Folks,
I have not had the time to do my own research on a question I have asked a couple times but Martha found the time and sent this which doesn't really answer the question (I suspect that no one wants it to be answered) but it does bring up the possibility that MITT ROMNEY MAY WELL BE A CLOSET ANCHOR BABY.
My question has been - since George Romney was born in Mexico and re-entered America with his mother while fleeing across the border due to some uprising in Mexico at the time - When and where did George Romney obtain American citizenship. Did he need to? Since this was a point brought up shortly before George Romney bowed out of his run for the presidency I have always wondered if he was, in fat, a Legal American citizen. I have never seen a satisfactory explanation to that question. My point is that if George Romney was not a legal American citizen that would make Mitt Romney a *Closet ANCHOR BABY*
Why is this issue ignored by the media and all others? It is a legitimate question that if there is no secrets being covered over could be answered easily.
Let's all send Lou Dobbs and CNN this question and see if any of them cover it. wanna place any bets? hahahaha
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
There is this, on George Romney and citizenship, with some interesting observations from commentors. There is nothing so far on his having become a citizen at all. Either he was considered a natural citizen, or was not one at all !!!! It looks like his citizenship was presumed and assumed?
Maybe you have already seen this post:
Pensito Review: Politics and Media Pensito Review: Politics and Media (http://www.pensitoreview.com/)
HOME ABOUT US CONTACT
January 15, 2008
ARCHIVES
Romney’s Mexico-Born Father Made Quixotic Run against Nixon and Reagan in ‘68 (http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/05/15/romneys-mexico-born-father-made-quixotic-run-in-68/)
Jon Ponder | May. 15, 2007
[]Like George W. Bush, Mitt Romney is an Eastern elite whose father was a famous political figure. George W. Romney had a high-profile private sector job, as C.E.O of American Motors, manufacturer of the Rambler, before serving as governor of Michigan for three terms.
In 1968, Gov. Romney ran for the Republican nomination against Richard Nixon, who won that year, and Ronald Reagan, who went on to win in 1980. But what George Romney is best remembered for is being tripped up on a statement about his support for the Vietnam War:
Romney told a news reporter that he had been “brainwashed” by the military and the diplomatic corps into supporting the Vietnam War. As the year 1968 opened, Romney was opposed to further American intervention in Vietnam and had decided to run as the Republican version of [antiwar Democrat] Gene McCarthy. Romney’s support faded slowly, and he withdrew from the race on February 28, 1968..
But even if he had won the presidency, George Romney would have faced a constitutional question before he could be sworn in. Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution, which says “No person except a natural born citizen … shall be eligible to the office of president”* prohibits people born in foreign countries from serving as president, and he was born in Chihuahua, Mexico, into a renegade sect of polygamous Mormons.
George Romney’s grandfather, Miles Park Romney, had five wives, and had moved the family to Mexico when polygamy became a federal crime in the United States. (It was a crime in Mexico, too, but was largely ignored in remote areas.) However, when the Mexican Revolution broke out in 1910, when George was about three years old, the famly returned to the United States, eventually ending up in Salt Lake City, Utah.
In 1969, Pres. Nixon appointed Romney as secretary of Housing and Urban Development, a post he held until 1973.
*Update: Corrected citation from the Constitution that prohibits foreign-born presidents. H/t: Bob Sakowski in comments.
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4 Comments on
"Romney’s Mexico-Born Father Made Quixotic Run against Nixon and Reagan in ‘68 (http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/05/15/romneys-mexico-born-father-made-quixotic-run-in-68/)"
“The 14th Amendment prohibits people born in foreign countries from serving as president…”
Where, exactly, does the 14th say that?
Comment by Bob Sakowski | May. 15, 2007, 7:53 am |
14th Amendment says naturalized citizens cannot become president. George Romney was a citizen from birth as both his oarents were citizens.
For the record, Obama was born in Singapore but is a natural born American citizena dn thus eligible for the presidencv.
Comment by Jeanne Matthews | May. 16, 2007, 5:52 pm |
Answering myself:
According to this commentary http://www.newsmax.com/lowell_ponte/John_McCain/2007/07/16/18349.html
the 1st Congress in 1790 passed a law stating that
“The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens of the United States.”
But since it is not in the Constitution itself, George Romney’s case would have had to be decided in the Supreme Court.
John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone. Panama ceded “control” over the Zone to the US, but it was not in the “United States.” I doubt anyone would challenge McCain if he ran * but who knows these days?
Comment by Norbert Hirschhorn | Nov. 3, 2007, 10:45 am |
My previous email didn’t post. Just to say that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961; Hawaii became a state in 1959.
The 14th amendment doesn’t use the term “natural born citizen” but redefines citizenship: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
Persons who served in an official capacity in the US, swearing loyalty to the Constitution, and then joined the Confederacy, were made ineligible to rejoin the US in any office; but Congress by a 2/3 vote could remove the disability. In 1978 Congress posthumously did so for Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis.
Comment by Norbert Hirschhorn | Nov. 3, 2007, 10:50 am |