KUNINICH into MSNBC Debate should endorse Dr. Ron Paul

[Captain America]

Ron Please ask him to endorse you, we will win if he does.


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[Lucid American]

It would be pretty cool if he took the spotlight to endorse Paul, but it will never happen; he disagrees too much with Paul's domestic policies.

[AlexMerced]

still, it'd be a great "fuck you" to the democrats

it's be like when in pro-wrestling a face turns heel and rips his shirt off to reveal he has the other teams shirt underneath

[thegr8drronpaul]

Kucinich already told his supporters to back Obama should he not continue on.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/01/kucinich_throws_his_support_to.html

[rockandrollsouls]

pretty sure that was specified as iowa only.

[devil21]

Kucinich already told his supporters to back Obama should he not continue on.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/01/kucinich_throws_his_support_to.html

That was only for the Iowa caucus.

[smartguy911]

we need to start being realistic

[Ron Paul Fan]

I can't believe people here are this stupid. Kucinich is not going to endorse someone whose beliefs are completely opposite of his own. They agree on like two or three issues. Ron Paul is running for the Republican nomination, but I'm sure an endorsement from a gun grabbing socialist will get him a lot of votes in the Republican primaries. :rolleyes:

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

Dennis is a patriot, IMO.

[cien750hp]

dennis may be willing to overlook domestic issues for ron paul. his choices are
1. endorse no one, and not direct his supporters
2. endorse a democrat whom i don't think he has much support for any
3. endorse a republican, whom he hates more than the democrats
4. endorse ron paul, a good friend and another honest and good politician, whom they agree on civil liberties and foreign policy. something tells me healthcare and gun control isn't a good enough reason to choose one of the first three.

[daviddee]

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[Captain America]

I can't believe people here are this stupid. Kucinich is not going to endorse someone whose beliefs are completely opposite of his own. They agree on like two or three issues. Ron Paul is running for the Republican nomination, but I'm sure an endorsement from a gun grabbing socialist will get him a lot of votes in the Republican primaries.

Democrats in MI would vote for him, and independent there is no way he would lose

[RonPaulFTFW]

I feel horrible for my man kucinich.

our democracy is dead :(

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

With a totally warped interpretation of the constitution.

Who cares? At least this is one person who believes in what he is selling.

Dennis also protects civil liberties and understands foreign policy.

Do you think Ron is friends with him for no reason???????????????

Dennis is Ron Paul's only real friend in the House of Representatives.

[transistor]

absolutely no way that would happen

[Swmorgan77]

Uhm I would respect Kucinich for his endorsement of Dr. Paul, but I fail to see how this is going to have some huge watershed impact on Ron Paul's campaign. Unless those 2% of Kucinich's Democrat supports are willing to vote in Republican primaries, it won't even have a positive impact at all, and honestly would probably hurt him with Republican voters.

[Ron Paul Fan]

Democrats in MI would vote for him, and independent there is no way he would lose

LOL! I don't think Kucinich has the following or the political pull that you think he does.

[josh24601]

pretty sure that was specified as iowa only.

Yeah we didn't need anybody in Iowa...

Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich have pretty much polar opposite beliefs in everything except foreign policy. Kucinich endorsing Paul would make as much sense as Paul asking us to support a socialist agenda like Kucinich's. It makes zero sense.

Ron Paul's message is MUCH more than just foreign policy. In fact, his views on foreign policy are merely a symptom of his basic philosophy, which is at complete odds with Kucinich's.

People who keep begging for some type of Kucinich / Paul alliance are, I think, mostly anti-war liberals that have hopped onto the bandwagon.

Don't get me wrong, the more the merrier, but Ron Paul nor his campaign nor his supporters will ever compromise those principles, just as, I would imagine, neither would Kucinich.

Obama is much more in tune with Kucinich's belief's than Ron Paul, which is why Kucinich actually has de-facto endorsed Obama.

Please stop trying to appropriate Ron Paul's platform to boost Kucinich's profile! They are different people who happen to be friendly with each other and agree on one issue, with otherwise radically different beliefs.

[Captain America]

Uhm I would respect Kucinich for his endorsement of Dr. Paul, but I fail to see how this is going to have some huge watershed impact on Ron Paul's campaign. Unless those 2% of Kucinich's Democrat supports are willing to vote in Republican primaries, it won't even have a positive impact at all, and honestly would probably hurt him with Republican voters.


paul said on leno he respects Kucinich the most of all democrats though he would not vote for him, if Kucinich stated why the democrats should vote for paul, which is more support from people who believe in the constiution.

from what ive seen nothing is warped with paul

kucinich wont do this unless he has a change in heart on economics

[RevolutionSD]

Kucinich won't endorse Paul but they are good friends and have similar views on the "war on terror" and the "war on drugs".

[Ron Paul Fan]

Who cares? At least this is one person who believes in what he is selling.

Dennis also protects civil liberties and understands foreign policy.

Do you think Ron is friends with him for no reason???????????????

Dennis is Ron Paul's only real friend in the House of Representatives.

Yeah, who cares whether or not he upholds his oath of office? Isn't following the Consitution one of Ron Paul's biggest talking points? Kucinich protects civil liberties except for that damn 2nd amendment. He understands foreign policy so much that he supported regime change in Iraq when Clinton was President and voted for the Iraq liberation act. Paul voted no on that same act.

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

Kucinich won't endorse Paul but they are good friends and have similar views on the "war on terror" and the "war on drugs".

Not to mention the "war on civil liberties"..... much of which can be found in the so-called "Patriot Act."

[affa]

Uhm I would respect Kucinich for his endorsement of Dr. Paul, but I fail to see how this is going to have some huge watershed impact on Ron Paul's campaign. Unless those 2% of Kucinich's Democrat supports are willing to vote in Republican primaries, it won't even have a positive impact at all, and honestly would probably hurt him with Republican voters.

Kucinich has more support than the % show in the same way that Ron Paul does - many votes 'fall off' because people (unfortunately) tend not to vote for someone they don't think is electable. I'd wager even more drop off for Kucinich since he doesn't have a high profile revolution behind him. If Kucinich endorsed Ron Paul it would cause many people to take a second look at Ron Paul.


Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich have pretty much polar opposite beliefs in everything except foreign policy. Kucinich endorsing Paul would make as much sense as Paul asking us to support a socialist agenda like Kucinich's. It makes zero sense.

Actually, no, it would make tons of sense. I see lots of people jumping all over Kucinich in various threads, unwilling to see past his 'socialist' views to understand what the man actually cares about. He wants the war to end. Immediately. Ron Paul is the only candidate (besides himself) that will not only promise this but would make it happen.

I think what happens sometimes is that people who come down on different sides of a topic lose their ability to comprehend what the other side is actually saying. Kucinich (moreso than any other Dem), for example, argues for universal healthcare not so much because he's a 'socialist', but because he believes no one in medical need should ever be turned away due to their financial situation. I agree. But more importantly, does this sound familiar? Ron Paul has treated individuals in need for free. So we know, on an individual level, Ron Paul agrees. Understand that they have a lot in common - they are both capital G Good people.

Ron Paul is a unifying force. That is one of his super powers. That is why he still has an extremely good chance. But it also means some of you need to be far more accepting of those with differing political and economic views - we're coming together in the name of liberty, in the name of freedom, and in the name of Ron Paul. But we, as a group, are going to include an extremely diverse and eclectic group... and we're all in this together.

[RoamZero]

Kucinich is a true blue Democrat. He's the type that might disagree with some things with his party but he'd still be willing to go down with the ship. I remember in a recent interview he was barely willing to criticize Clinton. If he does drop out I'm sure he'd endorse Obama.

[Paulitician]

Oh great. Just what we need when Ron Paul is losing, more worthless, meaningless, ridiculous talk about Dennis Kucinich. Pathetic.

[affa]

Oh great. Just what we need when Ron Paul is losing, more worthless, meaningless, ridiculous talk about Dennis Kucinich. Pathetic.

and statements like this help how? as i stated - we're all in this together.

and besides, ron paul is winning. he's just doing it the slow but steady way.

[xCakex]

dennis may be willing to overlook domestic issues for ron paul. his choices are
1. endorse no one, and not direct his supporters
2. endorse a democrat whom i don't think he has much support for any
3. endorse a republican, whom he hates more than the democrats
4. endorse ron paul, a good friend and another honest and good politician, whom they agree on civil liberties and foreign policy. something tells me healthcare and gun control isn't a good enough reason to choose one of the first three.

Interesting, if he does endorse Paul, this would garner at least some media spotlight and have some hardcore democrats to look into Libertarian-Republican perspective and see that we aren't all the same.

[dkim68]

Go Kucinich!!

[BreakYourChains]

Ron Please ask him to endorse you, we will win if he does.


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JUDGE orders KUNINICH into MSNBC Debate !! NICE !

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http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=89830

Sorry, but it will not happen. He has already had his people endorse Obama in Iowa. Not a chance.

[Kotin]

not going to happen.


and i suppose edwards will come out and endorse John Insain?

[ST0PandL00K]

ugh people are so short minded. Notice how in Pakistan where they are facing a dictatorship, how the opposition parties form coalition groups for the common good? Like, lets say a country has slid into fascism and forgot the constitution, maybe forces that agree on ending wars both foreign and on our liberties could unite under a common goal?

If you think that who pays for healthcare is the most important issue facing the US you havent been paying enough attention. Do you guys realize how screwed you are?

[jaybone]

WAR AND LIBERTY
They agree on those issues, and without ending the war and resoring our civil liberties, all else is noise.
I would welcome Dennis to the movement anyday, he is a very honorable man and I think he would hear the case for austrian economics with an open mind.

At this point, all I care about is ending the war. I will suffer socialism, economic ruin, intervention, but this freaking war has to stop and it has to stop soon. When the dust settles, whichever candidate is most hawkish on the war will win.

ALL progress is stopped while war rages on, it is a CANCER upon our Republic.

[SovereignMN]

Who cares? At least this is one person who believes in what he is selling.

Who cares if he believes what he's running on. I have no doubt that McCain and Guiliani really believe we should bomb the Middle East back to the 1st century. I have no doubt that Mike Huckabee really believes it's in the nations best interests to ban smoking.

The point is that Kuchinich is wrong on 95% of the issues and if he had his way he'd take your guns and wallet.