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01-12-2008, 02:04 AM
This was passed from the Meetup Group:

A bulletin posted from a Myspace friend about last night's FOX Debate: Feel free to pass it along

The First in the South
The South Carolina GOP debate 1-10-08

Yesterday was an exciting day as my friends and I attended the SC GOP debate at Myrtle Beach, FL. FOX news did their best to try to keep Ron Paul supporters out of their rigged crowd, but through the grace of God we succeeded in watching the second half from our purchased seats. Here is the story.

As we drove through the security checkpoints leading up to the debate parking lot, it gave you the sense that FOX was going through a lot of trouble to control access to the debate. We were not worried though, because we had reserved tickets so far ahead of time, that we paid a discounted price of $20, instead of $150. However, when we reached the last checkpoint before entering the convention center, the man with the list couldn't seem to find most of the Ron Paul supporters on the list, including my friends and I. I watched one RP supporter after another being turned away. Some of them briefly argued before leaving, but the policeman simply said he couldn't do anything, he was just following orders. It surprised me that the policeman had not been briefed on how to respond to ticket holders who didn't end up on the list. My friends and I did not back down, we knew we were supposed to be on that list. Finally, an official from the RP campaign came out with a handful of reserve tickets and made sure that those who had reserved tickets made it through the checkpoint. This was at 8:30PM. We knew that they were closing the doors to the convention center at 8:30PM so we ran to the doors from the last checkpoint muttering that it was ridiculous to finally pass out reserve tickets AFTER 8:30, but we were determined to get in anyway. When we got to the door, a man walked over from a small group of security guards to tell us that we were to late. This caused an immediate uproar of mixed responses. Some people were arguing with the guard, some began to turn and walk off yelling about FOX losing the collegiate vote, I even saw an old woman start crying! Suddenly, some McCain supporters that had shown up a little late WERE LET IN RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. This caused a very angry response from our crowd. Some of the crowd of security guards that had been growing since we first reached the door started to make their way out side. They formed a line along the outside of the convention center to look menacing and I noticed a security van pull up behind us. I noticed the old lady that was still crying was joined by one of her friends, who quietly told her to have hope and to pray, and it would all be worked out. Directly inside the convention center, it looked like every guard on duty had made their way to our door. Suddenly, one of my friends shouted, "Here comes the reinforcements!", pointing to two cameramen from the local news sprinting our way from the media tents. The security official that had been urgently telling us there was nothing he could do now looked nervously over his shoulder to his superior who was standing safely inside. One cameraman started interviewing each of the angry supporters left outside. One person pointed out that there were thousands of dollars worth of ticketholders being left outside due to a time technicality while others were let in despite showing up late. When the huge microphone was placed in front of the security official, who had let the other supporters in, his response was a flushed face and a stutter about us being late. His superior quickly walked up and whispered something in his ear, and he then said that we would be able to get in during the next break, but that we had to be quiet because they were about to start recording inside.

The local news came close to getting a full story on FOX's attempt to rig the crowd, but we were rushed in before many interviews could take place. They posted a few quotes on their website though:

Once we had made it through the medal detectors, we were told that the next break was in 20 minutes and given instructions on how to find out seats. After about 20 minutes had passed, the official walked up and said that he had made a mistake, and that it would be another 15 to 20 minutes until the break. After about another 10 minutes, another official walked up and said "Don't shoot the messenger" but I am told that you cannot come in until the intermission, which will be another 20 minutes. During the intermission, we marched in to the dismay of FOX. We made up for our exclusion during the first half of the debate during the second half. We booed loudly when Romney criticized Paul for saying that we don't need another war. Again, we booed loudly when Huckabee said that we should send the Iranians to hell. Overall, it was a great experience and I feel like we infiltrated a FOX debate (even though we had tickets) and foiled their attempts to rig the crowd.

01-12-2008, 02:08 AM
Um, WOW. This is unbelievable! They turned ticket holders away? What is going on!?! Fascists. And yay for getting in and being the cheerleaders. We heard you loud and clear!!!

01-12-2008, 02:10 AM
I really can't believe they went as far as all that. Actually... yes... yes i can believe they'd go that far. I'm just glad that you all got in and I hope the story of how you were mistreated spreads to more people than just the Paul supporters so that the others out there won't think we're all crazy conspiracy theorists when we say that congressman Paul is being black balled.

01-12-2008, 02:12 AM
Oh man that's just a bunch of BS. WTF man, I'd be way pissed off.

01-12-2008, 02:18 AM
How did they obtain names of Ron Paul supporters, donor/contributor list or a list from the campaign, etc??

01-12-2008, 02:51 AM
Nobody trying to get into debates, or anywhere else for that matter, should be saying they support Ron Paul. They probably have a lost they put your name on when you say that. Just say you support Romney then go in and shout the house down.

01-12-2008, 03:01 AM
some of the questions.

I signed up to be a part of a lot of Ron Paul meetup groups, so that when something occurs, I can pass it on. I don't live in SC, but NY.

I am careful not to spread bad information.

I think it is important to spread what others have experienced so that when one's primary, or other event occurs, we can be better prepared.

01-12-2008, 03:16 AM
Great story. Before you forward it correct spelling and grammatical errors.

Also it is Myrtle Beach, SC. You put Myrtle Beach, FL.

metal is not spelled medal.

However, when we reached the last checkpoint before entering the convention center, the man with the list couldn't seem to find most of the Ron Paul supporters on the list, including my friends and I.

You end sentences with "my friends and me" not "my friends and I".

Use "my friends and I" at the beginning of a sentence, "my friends and me" at the end of a sentence.

01-12-2008, 03:46 AM
How did they obtain names of Ron Paul supporters, donor/contributor list or a list from the campaign, etc??

Bump for it being a darned good question.

01-12-2008, 04:16 AM
Since you were there maybe you could post what Romney did to get Dr. Paul pissed off. It was right before he mentioned that Dr. Paul should stop reading Ahmadinejad's propanda.

01-12-2008, 04:32 AM
I am stunned! Thanks a zillion for writing this.
It's so important to share this story because it means that Doctor Paul's message is working its' magic. The orcs are brainless...just following orders just the way Hitler's Orcs did!
Extraordinary!! You have consolidated my resolve with that little anecdote!

Dave Pedersen
01-12-2008, 04:49 AM
Hey makrothymia can you explain any of the antics that those children on the stage were up to? Specifically did you see Mitt doing anything like mocking Ron Paul? Do you know of anyone with any recording of the event? Thanks.

01-12-2008, 04:59 AM
sounds kind of made up?? I LOVE the message of freedom and liberty, but we keep getting these stories with no proof to really back them up... no doubt that candidates and certain media can, and do, load crowds with like minded thinkers, but a story is just a story without proof.

01-12-2008, 05:03 AM

01-12-2008, 05:18 AM
bump... everyone needs to read this

01-12-2008, 05:38 AM
Yet even more proof the establishment is frightened of this revolution.

Must have been surreal.

Knut Schreiber
01-12-2008, 06:52 AM
Unbelievable. This is getting ridiculous. People have to know.

01-12-2008, 07:47 AM
No proof though....this would be a GREAT place for some sort of small cam to record what went on and post it ALL OVER THE NET. Without proof its hard to sell...with video proof...damning.

01-12-2008, 07:52 AM

No suprise really. Hell, police were ordered to keep Nader out of a debate and told to leave the premise.

01-12-2008, 08:17 AM
there was some good clapping and cheering going on.... so this might be a sign that regular republicans like what ron had to say?

01-12-2008, 08:42 AM
If they had already paid and recieved a ticket... they cannot be turned away or they must recieve a refund! Please, someone take legal action against Faux News NOW!!! Maybe the Better Business Bureu might like to hear this! -Tyler

01-12-2008, 10:18 AM
i think it would be common sense to bring some sort of recording device.

01-12-2008, 04:49 PM
I would demand a refund if I payed for tickets.

01-12-2008, 04:55 PM
Thanks for the great report

Faschist state, faux fox

When will people wake up ?

01-12-2008, 04:58 PM
Demand a refund.

01-12-2008, 05:04 PM
How did they obtain names of Ron Paul supporters, donor/contributor list or a list from the campaign, etc??

Probably a combo of all of the above. There is a checkbox when you donate which is automatically clicked for you, providing consent to publish your name under the ticker. A way to make it more difficult for them in the future is to unclick the box and not consent to publication.

This is absolutely ridiculous - Fox is surely doing a bad job of hiding their control scheme.