Why Paul/Kucinich '08 MIGHT work...

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

First off, I am not endorsing this idea, I am merely thinking out loud. Fairly or unfairly, I do have some questions about Kucinich's viability, which can be discussed in this thread. In any case, I would argue that the issues and concerns of voters this year line up nicely with a Paul-Kucinich ticket.

The major issues and motivations for voters this year are:

Real Change = Check
The Economy/Deficit/Falling Dollar = Check
The War = Check
Healthcare = ?
Bipartisanship = Check

We would absolutely own the change, war, bipartisan cooperation, and economic issues. The biggest issue left on the table is healthcare. If Ron and Dennis could come up with a plan on this issue viable to both sides, it would be a major coup. Perhaps a not-for-profit system that is similar to the way credit unions operate?

[trey4sports]

this would never work. ron paul is 100% against gov't intervention in medicine. they disagree too much and dennis is a socialist and after the UFO remarks hes looked at as a kook

[Mort]

In theory, Kucinich as VP may be possible. VP has no real power.

[Ethek]

Yeah, in the General Paul needs someone like Paulin to pull people off the Hillary pile.

[newmedia4ron]

KILL THREAD NOW

way too early to discuss such things
our chances are not the great but lets try to get some delegates and converts
speculation and prediction is a waste of time

[RonPaulFTFW]

it'd be amazing in political, media terms.

A true anti-war ticket that would basically throw all other candidates into grey area.

Would it piss off more than it would attract?
who knows.

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

In theory, Kucinich as VP may be possible. VP has no real power.

Of course Ron would head the ticket.

trey4sports, regarding healthcare, what I am suggesting is a not-for-profit system similar to credit unions. Do you know the difference between how credit unions and banks work, for example? Perhaps Dennis could be convinced to allow for a non-government controlled, single-payer, not-for-profit system run in a manner similar to credit unions? It's just an idea. As I said, the healthcare issue would be the biggest stumbling block here.

[acroso]

As long as Paul is on the top of the ticket...and not the bottom of it...

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

As long as Paul is on the top of the ticket...and not the bottom of it...

Of course. Based on the election results, fundraising, etc, there is no doubt Ron tops the ticket.

[MikeStanart]

No.

[Bison]

Kucinich is a Socialist. It would not happen.

[tfelice]

I for one would not vote for Paul if Kucinich was his running mate. There is no way I am voting to put a leftist one heartbeat away from the presidency.

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

I for one would not vote for Paul if Kucinich was his running mate. There is no way I am voting to put a leftist one heartbeat away from the presidency.

Well a leftist is probably going to be zero heartbeats away from the presidency if Ron doesn't win.

[tsetsefly]

no.

[JMann]

WTF does little socialist Denny Kucinich add to Paul's campaign? Absolutely nothing and I really wish his supporters would stop coming here every few days to float his communist ass on a libertarian site.

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

WTF does little socialist Denny Kucinich add to Paul's campaign? Absolutely nothing and I really wish his supporters would stop coming here every few days to float his communist ass on a libertarian site.

He could bring Democrats.

[jgmaynard]

We have the R nomination that is still up for grabs - let's see what happens on Super-Duper Tuesday.

But IF he decides to run on a Unity '08 ticket to get ballot access, Denny would provide some assests to us - He has quite a grassroots following, he is clearly known as being anti-war and pro-civil-liberties, he has name recognition.

But I feel that such a ticket would be seen as a "sore losers" ticket by many people. Maybe I am wrong. Then there are the tax/spending differences between them. Maybe they could come to some sort of compromise.

So, still playing along with a theoretical future Unity '08 ticket (with Libs/CP and Greens to further ballot access?), would Richardson make at least as good of a choice? Not as much grassroots support, but 5x the voter base...

Just random thoughts.

JM

[jrich4rpaul]

Kucinich "seeing a UFO" killed his campaign. Let's not get anywhere near that.

[Menthol Patch]

Lets end all of these Paul/Kucinich threads.

The thought of Ron Paul running with the socialist gun grabbing Kucinich is an abomination.

[Soccrmastr]

Are you joking man. They stand for opposite philosophies...

[literatim]

The guy is a gun grabber socialist. The only place I would accept him in the cabinet is somewhere for foreign relations.

[mport1]

I would never vote for a ticket with Kucinich on it.

[romeshomey]

Kucinich "seeing a UFO" killed his campaign. Let's not get anywhere near that.


Jimmy Carter said he saw a UFO and he went on to win an election.

[MikeStanart]

Satan / God 08!

Yes, they have opposing views; but we can bring people together to win!




The idea is ludicrous.

[SleepingNative]

Number 1: Healthcare is nothing to carry concerns over. Just compare this industry with the computer sector: both rely upon science, research, and technology in order to advance in their separate fields, yet only one sector (the computer sector) has gotten cheaper and cheaper by the year (incredibly so), and the other (healthcare) has done the opposite.

What's the difference?

REGULATION! One is regulated, and the other isn't.

Number 2: if you want to bring Democrats over to Paul's camp you may want to check out what I'm doing @ http://sleepingnatives.org. As one supporter commented:

"
Great idea!
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Does National see the benefit of something like this? Are they listening yet?

I'm serious- just wondering if any progress has been made on communication .

Please keep this in front of people. The Al Gore worshippers are very tough, if not impossible. This could turn them around...
"

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Peace,
Philip