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CanadaForRonPaul
01-09-2008, 11:00 PM
For those of you that have not read the book "The Energy Non-Crisis" by Lindsey Williams, it is a must read! He has risked his life to come out with this story and has been traveling the country giving lectures begging the American people to listen to his story. attached is his lecture video from google video.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&hl=en

CurtisLow
01-10-2008, 12:15 AM
thanks watching now.

CurtisLow
01-10-2008, 01:56 AM
Well just watch it and it truly is a must watch video. Very enlightening. It is all about the world bank and it screwing the world.

kimosabi
01-10-2008, 02:58 AM
WOW, very insightful, when is Iran going to flood the world with cheap oil?

Richandler
01-10-2008, 03:06 AM
Man why haven't I seen this before. Gosh I'm soaked in so much info it's almost overwhelming. I'm so glad I can convey this into words to people.

Holy crap, this man is so insanely right on everything. He nailed it. Everyone must see this video.

CurtisLow
01-10-2008, 10:33 AM
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6967/bumpqu8.jpg

Captain Shays
01-10-2008, 12:12 PM
These are quotes from two fo the people he mentioned

The high office of President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizen of his plight."
--John F. Kennedy, at Columbia University, 10 days before his assassination.



"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."
--Larry P. McDonald, US Congressman, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets

Pete
01-10-2008, 01:27 PM
must watch

Minuteman
01-10-2008, 02:56 PM
pisses you off doesnt it. Luckily, we can just slap a conspiracy or truther tag on this and make everyone feel better.

Captain Shays
01-10-2008, 03:12 PM
This stuff has been in my area of study for thirty years and I can tell you guys that it would be very difficult for me to find flaws in this guys rant. As far as I can tell, he's spot on about everything. Go right ahead and put some in your pipes and smoke it.

Rebel Resource
01-10-2008, 03:23 PM
I'd like to pose a question:

I happen to know quite a lot about peak oil. Before I watch this video, why does everything in the world today tell us that Alaska cannot possibly have such large reserves?

Oil firms drilling under the sea bed and in oil sands
Attempted coups in Venezuela (which DOES now have more than SA)
China rapidly buying its energy security
The US militarizing oil regions
etc etc etc

lucius
01-10-2008, 03:50 PM
Peak oil is a scam

"Control energy and you control the nations, control food and you control the people."
--Henry Kissinger

Dieseler
01-10-2008, 07:10 PM
That blew my mind. I knew the PTB, world banks were behind our destruction but I had no idea about the Alaskan oil.
I have never heard about Iran threatening to unleash cheap oil either.
I have always gone with what I heard such as , U.S. reserves amount to less than a months worth and that Alaska would be to costly to drill in and not much there anyway theory and thought mid east was our only source of oil.
I'm lost as a ball in the high weeds now.

The end of the video was what got me though.
It choked me up really bad.

CurtisLow
01-11-2008, 12:15 AM
z-Bump

If you have not watched this video. Your missing out! Very informative.

american empire
01-11-2008, 01:28 AM
watching....actually what surprises me is that you guys are surprised......I guess this is one level of truth too much for you guys....and seriously I am not acting like I know it all.....there must be another level of truth above this which I don't know.....
look this happens....
what got me to question all this was " the secret history of American empire" by John Perkins...if you guys get a chance to read it ...please do..you wished you had not

american empire
01-11-2008, 02:38 AM
hahaa...he actually talks about it.........i mean John Perkins.....

CurtisLow
01-11-2008, 11:50 AM
hahaa...he actually talks about it.........i mean John Perkins.....

Yes he did.. :rolleyes:

lucius
01-11-2008, 06:33 PM
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Stoli
01-11-2008, 06:43 PM
watching now. Thanks for posting

Stoli
01-11-2008, 08:46 PM
Very entertaining. The shit keeps piling up and Sheeple for some reason never step in it.
That why we need to start throwing it at them. Maybe Monkeys have known about this for years.

Cowlesy
01-11-2008, 10:13 PM
Okay -- just listened to this clip. I have a few problems with what this guy is saying.

If there was such a huge oil field in Alaska as this guy says, the companies who discovered it would be pumping the oil out of it and earning the revenues by undercutting the Saudis' price. I understand people say "the price of oil is kept artificially high to keep prices high", but the market is in fact competitive and the guys up in Alaska would love to compete with the Arabs. I work at a firm that invests money in Energy and we would not spend millions and millions trying to get money out of oil sands if there wasn't a demand for the product (oil). (Oil sands are essentially oil-rich rocks that by pumping heat into the rocks you can basically steam the oil out of it).

This guy says that Saddam and the Shah or Iran wouldn't play ball (he notes he's talking about Kissinger's time as Secretary of State). Didn't we install the Shah of Iran, and were allies of Saddam post-Henry Kissinger?

At 55minutes...he starts blaming Energy Traders (men who sit behind desks in NYC)? Ask the guys at Amaranth if they control the world. They lost countless billions, all lost their jobs and had to unwind their entire firm because they were wrong about the energy market. I went long 1,000 barrels of crude at $96.90 and employed 10% leverage (because I don't have enough money to actually drop 100% of the price of an oil contract) to reap a profit of a measly $2,100 because I sold the contract at approx. $99 a barrel for a $2,100 profit on a $9,690 investment for a return of about 22% in about 3 days.

Iran flooding the market with oil? The company can't even pay Russia on time for it's help with nuclear technology. It has to import 50% of it's refined gasoline. This guy is saying this backwards country is going to "flood" the market with oil? Come on!!!

I may actually buy this guy's book (he was selling it through the whole talk) just because it sounds interesting, but blaming it on Kissinger/Saddam/Iran/master-of-the-universe Energy Traders is a bit of a stretch.

I buy in to a lot of ideas, but I always start as a skeptic. This one just didn't have the backing to make me a believer.

robandsally
01-11-2008, 10:34 PM
watching....actually what surprises me is that you guys are surprised......I guess this is one level of truth too much for you guys....and seriously I am not acting like I know it all.....there must be another level of truth above this which I don't know.....
Agreed....many here need to understand that they have a long way to go.

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RevolutionSD
01-11-2008, 10:49 PM
For those of you that have not read the book "The Energy Non-Crisis" by Lindsey Williams, it is a must read! He has risked his life to come out with this story and has been traveling the country giving lectures begging the American people to listen to his story. attached is his lecture video from google video.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&hl=en

I've seen this, it is ABSOLUTELY shocking. I have no reason to doubt what he's saying and it certainly rebutts the Peak Oil theory.

bp2519
01-11-2008, 11:58 PM
so whats the iran date?

inibo
01-12-2008, 12:59 AM
so whats the iran date?

That's what I wanted to know too. :D

kimosabi
01-12-2008, 01:32 AM
Okay -- just listened to this clip. I have a few problems with what this guy is saying.

If there was such a huge oil field in Alaska as this guy says, the companies who discovered it would be pumping the oil out of it and earning the revenues by undercutting the Saudis' price. I understand people say "the price of oil is kept artificially high to keep prices high", but the market is in fact competitive and the guys up in Alaska would love to compete with the Arabs. I work at a firm that invests money in Energy and we would not spend millions and millions trying to get money out of oil sands if there wasn't a demand for the product (oil). (Oil sands are essentially oil-rich rocks that by pumping heat into the rocks you can basically steam the oil out of it).

This guy says that Saddam and the Shah or Iran wouldn't play ball (he notes he's talking about Kissinger's time as Secretary of State). Didn't we install the Shah of Iran, and were allies of Saddam post-Henry Kissinger?

At 55minutes...he starts blaming Energy Traders (men who sit behind desks in NYC)? Ask the guys at Amaranth if they control the world. They lost countless billions, all lost their jobs and had to unwind their entire firm because they were wrong about the energy market. I went long 1,000 barrels of crude at $96.90 and employed 10% leverage (because I don't have enough money to actually drop 100% of the price of an oil contract) to reap a profit of a measly $2,100 because I sold the contract at approx. $99 a barrel for a $2,100 profit on a $9,690 investment for a return of about 22% in about 3 days.

Iran flooding the market with oil? The company can't even pay Russia on time for it's help with nuclear technology. It has to import 50% of it's refined gasoline. This guy is saying this backwards country is going to "flood" the market with oil? Come on!!!

I may actually buy this guy's book (he was selling it through the whole talk) just because it sounds interesting, but blaming it on Kissinger/Saddam/Iran/master-of-the-universe Energy Traders is a bit of a stretch.

I buy in to a lot of ideas, but I always start as a skeptic. This one just didn't have the backing to make me a believer.

These two video's should help turn the tide...

Oil is not a Fossil Fuel ==> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=R7KyFF8ja7Y (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=R7KyFF8ja7Y)
http://trilogynet.net/Thomas_Gold/ (http://trilogynet.net/Thomas_Gold/)

Interview of the President of Shell ==> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=RMKgGPclp9E (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=RMKgGPclp9E)

You've got to watch these videos as well.

Oil apparently isn't a Fossil Fuel but is made using other processes and they keep finding oil in places that there shouldn't be oil.

2nd interview is with the President Of Shell. He state they are only allowed to explore a small part of the US and states that there's no shortage of oil out there, the biggest problem is government policy...

kimosabi
01-12-2008, 01:35 AM
so whats the iran date?
Must be soon.

Me thinks this is the real reason they want to Nuke Iran....

american empire
01-12-2008, 06:16 AM
I may actually buy this guy's book (he was selling it through the whole talk) just because it sounds interesting, but blaming it on Kissinger/Saddam/Iran/master-of-the-universe Energy Traders is a bit of a stretch.

Cowlesy ...you seem like a smart man and can read b/w the lines.... read through my sarcasm....nice try.....

for the rest the antics of this "man" never end.....as the guy in the end says....

"He has got his own sentence ....he has to live with himself"....


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2815881561030958784&q=trial+of+henry+kissinger&total=48&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

V4Vendetta
01-12-2008, 06:40 AM
pretty darn good video indeed, always been a fan of Mr. Williams

ourlongroad
01-12-2008, 01:23 PM
Interview of the President of Shell ==> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=RMKgGPclp9E (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=RMKgGPclp9E)
Very interesting interview with President of Shell. Thank you very much for posting, Kimsoabi. I found the following tidbids quite revealing:

- He is saying that it's government policy which is creating the oil shortage.
- He acknowledges that 'ethanol competes with food' and goes on to say that Shell doesn't want to do this.

Wow. So revealing. It all makes sense because we know the next DC agenda is imposing 'climate change' fear and shortages to cripple domestic industry, private transportation, food supplies and therefore independence.

Why was the president of Shell on national TV being so honest and revealing. Astounding.

DriftWood
06-27-2008, 10:50 AM
Why the hell do you take this guy seriously? What does a missionary man know about oil, and why would anyone that does know something tell him anything? Its basically his word against every geologist in the world. Faith may work in religion but in the real world we need proof, and anyone without it should be viewed with skepticism.

If there really was lots of cheap oil in Alaska there would be someone there making a profit off it. You cant control the market, you can bet that the greed of people would have made sure that that oil found its way to the market somehow. Where there is a profit to be made, there is someone making it. No one ever got rich keeping stuff off the market. This story does not make sense.

Cheers

acptulsa
06-27-2008, 10:55 AM
You've not heard of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR)?

tonesforjonesbones
06-27-2008, 12:47 PM
well..i guess he could be lying. I guess he could be working for the oil companies and being paid big bucks to throw us off track. I guess saddam really did have wmd's and they didn't want us to know so they lied about it so the insurgents couldn't find them and use them against us. Heck..anything could be true or not true right? TONES

Zippyjuan
06-27-2008, 01:44 PM
ANWR is estimated to contain about 10.4 billion barrels of oil. We consume about 7 billion barrels a year so ANWR could provide us with a little over a year's worth oil. Estimated peak production would be less than 900,000 barrels a day. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4542853/

Alaska does NOT have enough oil to last us for 200 years. That, at our present rate of consumption, would have to be 1.4 trillion barrels of oil. Total known reserves for the ENTIRE WORLD are reported to be 1.1 trillion barrels. Alaska does not have more oil than the entire world. His theory is junk but people still buy his books because the WANT it to be true.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
06-27-2008, 09:21 PM
I'd like to pose a question:

I happen to know quite a lot about peak oil. Before I watch this video, why does everything in the world today tell us that Alaska cannot possibly have such large reserves?

Oil firms drilling under the sea bed and in oil sands
Attempted coups in Venezuela (which DOES now have more than SA)
China rapidly buying its energy security
The US militarizing oil regions
etc etc etc

That's crazy talk. :D

lucius
06-27-2008, 09:51 PM
Citing Need for Assessments, U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/27/us/27solar.html?_r=3&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1214625007-qR/wilc+guZZfi8mg1m7Kw

"DENVER — Faced with a surge in the number of proposed solar power plants, the federal government has placed a moratorium on new solar projects on public land until it studies their environmental impact, which is expected to take about two years." :rolleyes:

Dieseler
06-28-2008, 02:35 PM
In the video, Lindsey states that one of the oil men he cited most of his info from (one of the men he lived with in Alaska at the time) contacted him later to help make sure that the info in his book was all correct and termed properly so as to avoid said info from being easily debunked.
So I guess his book was co written by an oil man. His name is in the video but I can't remember it.

Knightskye
07-06-2008, 07:21 PM
He didn't tell the truth about what the Governor of Alaska said. He said in March, 2005, the Governor of Alaska was on Real Time with Bill Maher. Here's part of the transcript (http://www.billmaher.com/?page_id=159):


Now, we can conserve, and we’ve got to conserve. But this is a lot of oil, potentially, up there. Alaska has been producing about 25% of the total crude oil produced in the United States for the last almost 30 years. If there’s an abundance of oil in Anwar, it could be as much as what we would import from Saudi Arabia in 25 years. So this could be a very big thing. And it’s in the national security interests, because an awful lot of what we do when we import oil is we send our dollars overseas to the Mid-East. And a lot of this funds terrorism. Make no mistake about it. We know where the funding is coming from. It’s coming from oil. [applause]

In the video, I believe he said there'd be enough oil from ANWR for 200 years. Frank Murkowski (the Governor of Alaska in 2005) didn't say that.

FindLiberty
07-06-2008, 07:41 PM
The world can never "run out" of oil. The last few drops of oil is still trapped in some deep oil shale rock deposit, but it's way too costly to bother to extract and it will still remain there underground!

Long before then, nuke or another source of energy (fuel cell?) will be powering any remaining transportation. This does not need to be centrally planned or managed in an open market / free society. Electric cars are only too expensive now because we have $4.50 gas to burn.