vote for the NEXT Ron Paul Girl

[Lord Xar]

http://barelypolitical.com/

[UCFGavin]

i don't want to see any more girls :o

edit: don't get me wrong...they're hot as shit...but the whole " <name> girl" is retarded

[DisabledVet]

Who wants to see the next Gore girl?

http://hippie-girl.com/greenbrown1.jpg

[qednick]

I can see the results but no way to cast a vote.

[DjLoTi]

Guys, don't let these people pervert-atize us. We shouldn't let these people represent our movement. (IMO)

[risiusj]

Although I somewhat agree, you have to admit that getting a Ron Paul Girl would give a huge boost to his recognition.

[DjLoTi]

While I do agree with that statment, I think we could be just as if not more successful by doing our own thing

[jorlowitz]

Folks,

Obama girl has 2.6 million hits. Sex appeal need not be evil and the producers of these videos are witty and each in their own way pretty talented (they also did the SNL parody 'Box in a Box'. Of all the times to suddenly ignore a poll...???

[DjLoTi]

I voted for Nader (lol).

I tried to vote twice but they won't allow it. And they say people who vote for RP vote twice!! ?!?!?

[Roxi]

i thought the obama girl said she was wrong and decided to be for RP instead, at least i saw a youtube video to that effect

[Wyurm]

I voted for Nader (lol).

I tried to vote twice but they won't allow it. And they say people who vote for RP vote twice!! ?!?!?

well you did try :rolleyes:

[Lord Xar]

i thought the obama girl said she was wrong and decided to be for RP instead, at least i saw a youtube video to that effect

REALLY? Now we should capitalize on that....

[DjLoTi]

I saw a video of her on Glenn Beck and she said she supported Obama and that she also researched all the issues and he was the best one (lol.. like I believe that one)

[kalami]

Obama girl was trendy and appeals to people who probably won't even vote. But I voted, because exposure is exposure.

[kalami]

REALLY? Now we should capitalize on that....

No it was some other chick. She also said she didn't know what a libertarian was and that she had a crush on Mr. Rogers. Given the context she was probably joking.

[EvoPro]

The [name] girls get a lot of attention in the media and I have never seen it be negative. Plus the campaign has nothing to do with this.

This will only be free advertising.

[rg123]

We don't need a Ron Paul girl its not going to do anything for the issues this country is facing some really serious problems all the other candidates show just how much the issues do not really matter to them with these stupid ads. Seeing a girl hot to cheat with Obama does nothing to stop the "IRAQ WAR" Ron is not going to win an election to be POTUS by showing a cute girl on tv in fact I feel it would look like he has to sell sex to be president I'll stick with Ron on the issues getting elected isn't about lust or gettin laid

[mport1]

He is still behind. Everybody go vote.

[10thAmendmentMan]

Ron on the issues getting elected isn't about lust or gettin laid

It is if your major interest in Paul is his stance on prostitution.

[DeadheadForPaul]

Gore girl is tied with us! come on guys

[Bergie Bergeron]

bump !

[Lady Liberty]

Actually, I think this is really cute, and it would get Paul's name out there to a totally different crowd. I do hope Ron Paul girl is a geek or a punk. :p

[mport1]

Only 40%? We can do better than that.

[DAZ]

it was at 37% 10 or 15 min. ago. be patient. if there's one thing Ron Paul is known for, it's winning internet polls.

[drinkbleach]

I hate the Ron Paul girl because she's so fucking stupid. She could have at least thrown something intelligent in there but no it's all vapid crap.

[johnrocks]

I went along with the concensus here but I am scared shitless! What if they use it to paint him as some sort of dirty old man or a kook?

[DAZ]

I hate the Ron Paul girl because she's so fucking stupid. She could have at least thrown something intelligent in there but no it's all vapid crap.

ummmmm.......I didn't think there was a "Ron Paul Girl" in the same sense as the "Obama Girl." I saw the clip you're thinking of, and yeah she was pretty vapid. But I don't believe this is the same thing. Can anybody back me up or correct me?

[Bloody Holly]

Yeah but if the media were to do any report it would be a hit job and they would claim Ron Paul was ripping off Obama girl when in fact, haven't we had females speaking about Ron Paul on you tube for quite some time now? Sounds like someone decided to step it up a notch and turn it into a sex sells campaign.

Even if there were a Ron Paul girl, that doesn't mena it would get media attention because all of the people on tv like the view who even mention Obama girl, they like Obama in the first place.

There wouldn't have been 2 million views if male Ron Paul supporters didn't watch and even comment. Just because there are alot of views doesn't mean it will sway voters to Ron Paul.

Democrats have been using the mtv type of advertising for years. Anyone remember vote or die? Well it didn't work now did it?

Ron Paul isn't about false gimmicks. Let everyone else copy each other for the type of attention you'd expect to see in perfume ads. In the end, if their message stinks, the novelty will wear off. Also, it would contradict what Ron Paul stands for and be used against him. Republicans generally don't like that.

Do you really think people of voting age are watching that in hopes that seeing tits and ass is going to help them choose or are they watching mostly to see the female in which she is getting the real advertisement and attention.

These girls are paid to do this. Also Obama girl was lip syncing, anyone who think she wasn't paid doesn't know. She may or may not even really be for Obama.

If I were to watch Guliani girl or Guliani guy, I'd be amused for however long it lasted but it wouldn't make me think "Oh that Guliani is a swell guy, I'm going to vote for him."

If anything, I think we should encourage other campaigns to use their own funds to produce a high quality video worth millions with the same theme so that it will bankrupt them with no true results. :)

[Bloody Holly]

The [name] girls get a lot of attention in the media and I have never seen it be negative. Plus the campaign has nothing to do with this.

This will only be free advertising.

It's not free advertising because in order to make a video like made for Obama girl, first you have to have someone making the music, singing (that takes money)

Second high quality production not done with a crappy cam (money)

The buildings you are recording in you either should own them or pay off the owners to let you (once again money)

Then the model lip syncing. Once again money.

So yeah after you cover the costs it *might* be free advertising but if you haven't noticed, so far both candidates are being pimped out alot in mainstream media with already good press so by the time there is a Ron Paul girl, the media will not sing a different tune just for that.

They will either ignore it completely or use it as more ways to make Ron Paul look bad meanwhile they boost up other candidates that have been pimped out in the first place.

Maybe by the time it gets around to Ron Paul girl it will be, okay this has gotten old. How many other candidates are going to rip off Obama girl and use that to make Obama somehow seem just so cool and creative in comparison.

[Man from La Mancha]

Bloody Holly,

A lot of what you say is true, but you under estimate the male mind. I've seen home made video's on youtube that had no outside MSM attention rake up over 5 million hits just because of T&A. This is an effective way to introduce Ron to many people, it doesn't need substance just an intro and name recognition.

[Man from La Mancha]

It's not free advertising because in order to make a video like made for Obama girl, first you have to have someone making the music, singing (that takes money)

Second high quality production not done with a crappy cam (money)

The buildings you are recording in you either should own them or pay off the owners to let you (once again money)

Then the model lip syncing. Once again money.

So yeah after you cover the costs it *might* be free advertising but if you haven't noticed, so far both candidates are being pimped out alot in mainstream media with already good press so by the time there is a Ron Paul girl, the media will not sing a different tune just for that.

They will either ignore it completely or use it as more ways to make Ron Paul look bad meanwhile they boost up other candidates that have been pimped out in the first place.

Maybe by the time it gets around to Ron Paul girl it will be, okay this has gotten old. How many other candidates are going to rip off Obama girl and use that to make Obama somehow seem just so cool and creative in comparison.

Once again on youtube it could be made for nothing, I've seen crappy made video's of T&A with bad singing get millions of hits, thats millions.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Obama's girl??

http://www.wayodd.com/funny-pictures2/funny-pictures-beautiful-old-lady-13b.jpg

LOL

[Bloody Holly]

Bloody Holly,

A lot of what you say is true, but you under estimate the male mind. I've seen home made video's on youtube that had no outside MSM attention rake up over 5 million hits just because of T&A. This is an effective way to introduce Ron to many people, it doesn't need substance just an intro and name recognition.

All you care about is the male mind. Are you saying that men are that stupid?? Then what the fuck are you still doing here? I've been around males my entire life. I was raised by a pack of males. I've been in the boys tree house and know how it functions but I also know that with the male mind, watching an Obama girl type is more about watching the girl than swaying your vote and if anyone ever commented stuff like "OMG I'm like totally rooting for Obama now" they are lying. They were already on team Obama.

What those people don't know is how uncool Obama really is. He's a great speaker but one really uncool stunt he pulled was not even paying a guy for spending two years on myspace gathering over 100+ friends for him only to have the myspace page given to Barack with no thank you or compensation. People rely on gimmicks for a reason. Because they suck or they aren't cool.

I hope you don't think the punk rock candidate sucks and isn't cool so needs to parrot what other candidates do. I mean COME ON....Guliani is jumping on the bandwagon. That should sound off alarms.

Man from LaMancha, there is plenty of free porn for you to look at. We don't need to copy other candidates. It's THEIR job to copy Ron Paul because they know underneath it all, Ron Paul is waaaay cooler than they will ever be, even with gimmicks.

[Bloody Holly]

Once again on youtube it could be made for nothing, I've seen crappy made video's of T&A with bad singing get millions of hits, thats millions.


also wasn't it confirmed that Obama actually does have bots?

This was taken off of the myspace bulletin.

Repost-

Obama BOT Is Toast!
Posted July 14th, 2007 by Likkerish
A number of Ron Paul supporters had noted the wild inflation of channel views on Obama's YouTube site that was occurring at the rate of over 300 views per minute and which had run the view total to nearly 10 million. During this time the subscription rate had dragged along at a snail's pace.

Last evening, in the wee hours of the morning, Central Time, I confirmed this runaway BOT inflation and posted a message on Obama's YouTube site as well as sending a modification of the comment to Obama's main campaign site. The following is what I reported on the YouTube site.

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Likkerish, July 14, 2007

"Observers of your site have collected data that suggest that a BOT is running to inflate the views. One person observed for 13 minutes on July 13 and reported 305 views/minute in the early hours of the morning.

"I just checked views over a 13-minute period between 3:12-3:30 am, CDT on July 14. The number of views increased by 3,989 for an average of 307 views/min. or 5.1 views/sec. The increase was very steady over this period, which is strong evidence of a BOT running. What the perpetrator does not realize is that he is shooting himself and Obama in the foot, because during the nearly 4,000 views, there was NOT ONE NEW SUBSCRIBER added. And, at last count, Obama was getting ONE subscriber for every 1,086 views. Compare that with the Ron Paul site which is showing ONE subscriber per 110 views. So, the efficiency of your campaign is looking worse and worse. You have 8,852 subscribers after 10 months or so. Ron Paul has 20,639 after 3.5 months. I suggest that you stop the BOT!"

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I checked the Obama site again about 13 hours later. Someone had reported that apparently the BOT had stopped running and the views were occurring at the rate of about 3 per minute instead of 300 per minute. I collected some data to confirm that this was indeed true. Here is what I posted to the Obama YouTube site.

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Likkerish, July 14, 2007

"YES! The BOT is toast!

"I sampled the number of Obama views and subscribers twice within a period of almost an hour (59 min). First sample recorded: 4:01-4:13 pm, CDT, July 14. There were 53 views and 0 subscribers [4.4 views/min]. Second sample collected: 4:48-5:01pm, CDT. There were 40 views and 1 subscriber [3.33 views/min]. The entire 59 minute period, showed 164 views [2.78 views/min = 166.78 views/hr] and 2 subscribers [2.03 subscribers/hr].

"I also collected two, relatively comparable samples from the Ron Paul site within a 59 minute period, alternating them with the Obama sampling. First sample recorded: 4:16-4:28 pm, CDT. There were 139 views and 4 subscribers [11.58 views/min and 0.33 subscriber/min]. Second sample collected: 5:03-5:15 pm CDT. There were 87 views and 0 subscribers [7.25 views/min]. The entire 59 minute period showed 411 views and 6 subscribers [6.97 views/min, which is 2.5 times the Obama view rate and 3.0 times the number of Obama subscribers]."

Likkerish, July 14, 2007

"Regarding the data sets previously reported comparing Obama's site post-BOT inflation and the Ron Paul site, there is some more analysis that is worth reporting.

"Now that the BOT has been turned off, the Obama site now shows during a 59 minute period that 83.39 views produced 1 subscriber. This is in stark contrast to the data I reported in the wee hours of the morning today when it was taking 1086 views to produce one subscriber.

"In comparison during a relatively comparable 59 minute period, Ron Paul's site today showed 68.5 views produced one subscriber, not much better than Obama's site.

"I also note that the total number of Ron Paul subscribers was 2.34 times the total number of Obama subscribers. This compares to the data previously reported which showed that RP was getting 2.5 times the number of subscribers as Obama.'

Likkerish, July 14, 2007

"Correction to previous post: In the 59 minute period today, Ron Paul was getting 3.0 times the number of subscribers as Obama as compared to 2.34 times greater overall."

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Since Obama's channel views have been so grossly inflated by the BOT, just as Ron Paul's Comments have been, likewise, inflated by spammers, I thought it would be useful to record these data for future reference.

For More Go To:http://dailypaul.com/node/708

[rg123]

Bloody you are right its a perfume ad Ron doesn't need T n A to get votes Some how a 25 year old in a thong wanting to have sex with someone old enough to be her great Grandfather doesn't look good if you know what I mean By Ron not doing ads like that shows he is Presidential material and has a job to do. Instead of I'm cool so what ever I do is good for the country. He's not running to be the next Paris Hilton he's running for POTUS

[Man from La Mancha]

Don't need money just some intellegent hotty to make a video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCf0EIlPmeQ
Views: 2,280,784 this is just a home video of a girl fully clothed rearranging her closet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqtfkwd8jeY&mode=related&search=
Views: 3,867,924

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApAoxK1hqbw&mode=related&search=
1,369,000 views

It appears that the title of these is very important to drawing in the male mind. for ex." A Hotty for Paul" " Stripping For Freedom" ect.

[Lady Liberty]

Man from LaMancha, there is plenty of free porn for you to look at.
There are also plenty of informative sites about Ron Paul out there for anyone who wants to take a serious look at the issues. Ron Paul would probably not associate himself with a piece like this, just as Obama has kept a ten foot pole distance. It's not Ron's crowd. All the more reason why it would be great to get his name out there to them. Besides, who knows, this could end up in a playboy spread for the girls of 08 or some such. And most guys I know read the articles. :rolleyes:

Let them have some fun, it's harmless.

[ladyjade3]

I have to admit. I voted for Romney in this one. Just because I'd love to see like 3 mormon women vying to be his next wives. lol

[DAZ]

I think the best thing this could bring is more name recognition. Of course no one is gonna be convinced to go vote because some girl is prancing around in her underwear. But they might say, "That Ron Paul is one lucky bastard to have a girl like her sing about him. What's he got that I don't?" (10 min. of googling later) "Oh, he has principles! Now I get it!."

[Henry]

Have we degenerated to this extreme and so early? Remember don’t look back, it’s now and it’s the future that counts. How about getting really creative by coming with something original by focusing on something substantive like a music video which capsulate things like New Orleans, Soup Kitchens in America, Nafta, Drug Cartel (pharmaceutical). Google, etc. etc.

Gore Vidal said this “WE LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMMNESIA” we forget now, yesterday, but not tomorrow. A hot chick is here and gone in 20 seconds. However a substantive message is eternal (in today’s climate).

That’s my take!!
Henry

[Bloody Holly]

Bloody you are right its a perfume ad Ron doesn't need T n A to get votes Some how a 25 year old in a thong wanting to have sex with someone old enough to be her great Grandfather doesn't look good if you know what I mean By Ron not doing ads like that shows he is Presidential material and has a job to do. Instead of I'm cool so what ever I do is good for the country. He's not running to be the next Paris Hilton he's running for POTUS

agreed. I don't think people understand that the media has it out for him and this would also be the smear. He's a grandfather like omg, why would he even be associated with that!

Also for someone who said it is harmless fun well yeah but some people act as though we need this or Ron Paul just isn't going to win and it's ridiculous
I also think the same people acting like that think there was no money involved like the model wasn't paid.

Also, we have hotties on you tube that have been discussing Ron Paul Man from Lamancha, where have you been? They have been doing it longer too.

[Man from La Mancha]

Have we degenerated to this extreme and so early? Remember don’t look back, it’s now and it’s the future that counts. How about getting really creative by coming with something original by focusing on something substantive like a music video which capsulate things like New Orleans, Soup Kitchens in America, Nafta, Drug Cartel (pharmaceutical). Google, etc. etc.

Gore Vidal said this “WE LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMMNESIA” we forget now, yesterday but not tomorrow. A hot chick is here and gone in 20 seconds. However a substantive message is eternal (in today’s climate).

That’s my take!!
Henry

The purpose of these forums is to get the most people hearing about Ron. It's called a numbers game. Are you calling beautiful women and the attention they draw degenerate?:confused: The earlier the better because the growth gets bigger faster.


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[DAZ]

Can anyone here deny that name recognition is still a big problem? If so, I'd love to hear it. Now I might be wrong here, but I don't think the campaigns have anything to do with these videos in terms of funding, creative input, etc. My understanding is that the videos are made by an independent group that pokes fun at politics. Am I mistaken? If not, how is more name recognition a bad thing? The girl will be singing about how hot she gets when reading the Bill of Rights, not checking out Ron.

[Man from La Mancha]

agreed. I don't think people understand that the media has it out for him and this would also be the smear. He's a grandfather like omg, why would he even be associated with that!

Also for someone who said it is harmless fun well yeah but some people act as though we need this or Ron Paul just isn't going to win and it's ridiculous
I also think the same people acting like that think there was no money involved like the model wasn't paid.

Also, we have hotties on you tube that have been discussing Ron Paul Man from Lamancha, where have you been? They have been doing it longer too.

I don't want discussing I want movement thats what will get a lot of youtube views. When will you understand the male mind. It's an entertainment thing like chocolates are for women. We need numbers and all ways are needed. And I have not seen one Obama girl type video for Paul, if you have please put up the link.

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[Bloody Holly]

Don't need money just some intellegent hotty to make a video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCf0EIlPmeQ
Views: 2,280,784 this is just a home video of a girl fully clothed rearranging her closet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqtfkwd8jeY&mode=related&search=
Views: 3,867,924

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApAoxK1hqbw&mode=related&search=
1,369,000 views

It appears that the title of these is very important to drawing in the male mind. for ex." A Hotty for Paul" " Stripping For Freedom" ect.



There you go again...the male mind. Because females don't vote and females have nothing to do with getting a candidate elected also females vote based on what their significant others want.

I hear that crap ALOT when it comes to politics and that is why I feel like people like you must live in the lord of the rings where everyone is your frodo and females have no real valid roles at all. That type of mindset might lure in male machos but it sure is going to turn women onto Hillary Clinton because at least they won't feel like they don't belong in the lord of the rings political movie.

Look, just because Ron Paul does look like Gandalf, does not mean this is the lord of the rings.

You aren't using your brain. You're using your dick instincts. If you want to trust your dick instincts over my gut instincts go for it but I'm telling you right now that it would backfire on Ron Paul. This grassroots is not spreading like fire because of gimmicks but the message of liberty.

I don't think it would be great to imitate. Let them drill it to the ground and let Ron Paul be the stand alone candidate that doesn't resort to that.

[Henry]

I forgot about an especially sexy one. A music video with the whole family partying together on a holiday weekend. In today's hyper speed life we as humans miss most what just took place.

Let the rest of Madison Avenue dress up their campaign with what they think sells (sex). Someone can prove them wrong by touching the essence of their younger life by thinking "Gees we used to that when I was younger.

Guys there is more to that, simply if done correct it would simply turn everything inside out.

[Bloody Holly]

I don't want discussing I want movement thats what will get a lot of youtube views. When will you understand the male mind. It's an entertainment thing like chocolates are for women. We need numbers and all ways are needed. And I have not seen one Obama girl type video for Paul, if you have please put up the link.

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OMG yes ratings everyone, ratings. Let's forget that the grassroots movement minus your gimmicky approach has been spreading like wildfire. Let's forget that what sets us apart is the fact that we took the time to review our chosen candidates approach and voting record.

You already pissed me off with your stupid bossy messages sent to the fems4ronpaul page so because you fail to get it, im adding you to the ignore list. Why? I'm not here for you, I'm here to support Ron Paul.

[Man from La Mancha]

There you go again...the male mind. Because females don't vote and females have nothing to do with getting a candidate elected also females vote based on what their significant others want.

I hear that crap ALOT when it comes to politics and that is why I feel like people like you must live in the lord of the rings where everyone is your frodo and females have no real valid roles at all. That type of mindset might lure in male machos but it sure is going to turn women onto Hillary Clinton because at least they won't feel like they don't belong in the lord of the rings political movie.

Look, just because Ron Paul does look like Gandalf, does not mean this is the lord of the rings.

You aren't using your brain. You're using your dick instincts. If you want to trust your dick instincts over my gut instincts go for it but I'm telling you right now that it would backfire on Ron Paul. This grassroots is not spreading like fire because of gimmicks but the message of liberty.

I don't think it would be great to imitate. Let them drill it to the ground and let Ron Paul be the stand alone candidate that doesn't resort to that.

How can some one read so much into something that is not even there? A little penis envy paranoia.:)

If you have noticed that 82% are men on this forum according to the poll someone took. And look at the numbers of men at all the rallies. Does that mean that women are any less important, of course not but it appears politics atracks more men than women.

. Men are a very good way to target for more supporters. And sex appeal sells period. Just look the other way. But I bet you looked at the videos I posted.

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[Henry]

. Are you calling beautiful women and the attention they draw degenerate?:confused: The earlier the better because the growth gets bigger faster..

I’m not saying that at all. My personal preference is “the hotter she is the more turned I am”. All I’m suggesting that this is an old technique which is very expensive and has a short self-life. I t has and will be used for eons because the marketing agencies have a lucrative business with the suckers.

What were talking about here. Is not the Coors girls, or Paris Hilton’s. It an eager and, attentive group of people that have been jaded with the above referenced approach and are desperately seeking a different message.

I hope I made some sense!!

[Man from La Mancha]

I’m not saying that at all. My personal preference is “the hotter she is the more turned I am”. All I’m suggesting that this is an old technique which is very expensive and has a short self-life. I t has and will be used for eons because the marketing agencies have a lucrative business with the suckers.

What were talking about here. Is not the Coors girls, or Paris Hilton’s. It an eager and, attentive group of people that have been jaded with the above referenced approach and are desperately seeking a different message.

I hope I made some sense!!

Thanks for the reply, your absolutely right. A short life but very big one. An old technique because it works. And it can be done for no money as I have shown ealier. Look its just a fun attention getter, its not a philosophy. Wouldn't it be nice for 3 million men hear the name Ron Paul that might not of heard it? It's not an Official Campaign Headquarters endorsement.

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[Henry]

So you as a supporter are you willing to flush down the toilet not the man (but the message) for a cheap thrill?

Not to be condescending but do you really know the message this guy is carrying.

[Birdlady]

Don't need money just some intellegent hotty to make a video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCf0EIlPmeQ
Views: 2,280,784 this is just a home video of a girl fully clothed rearranging her closet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqtfkwd8jeY&mode=related&search=
Views: 3,867,924

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApAoxK1hqbw&mode=related&search=
1,369,000 views

It appears that the title of these is very important to drawing in the male mind. for ex." A Hotty for Paul" " Stripping For Freedom" ect.

Uh are we looking for a Ron Paul girl or a stripper? If you looking for a stripper then you are at the wrong forum.

You can have a pretty face "represent" Ron Paul, but what you are talking about is like a girl stripping on YouTube. I don't see how that's going to help Ron Paul.

Edit: I have no problems having a pretty girl with a Ron Paul shirt on talking about him on YouTube. In fact, I think that is a great idea. But a girl stripping with cheesy music on in the background?

[Lady Liberty]

It an eager and, attentive group of people that have been jaded with the above referenced approach and are desperately seeking a different message.

Yes that does make sense. Actually I am surprised how divisive this message has been in this microcosm. I don't fear for Dr. Paul's reputation, but it is seeming like this would alienate more people than it would attract, at least in this forum. I understand the care being given to the message of freedom, however I don't find this to be an either/or situation. It seems to me like we could tolerate or even support Paul Girl, while working to craft our own advertisements and put the message out there with a flood of informative campaigners. I for one am finding the arguments on both sides interesting and I think it's an important discussion to have. When you have a grass roots campaign, you definitely have less control over the message. I hope we can keep this less of a guys vs. girls fight, and more of a debate over how careful we do or don't need to be with spreading the message.

[Henry]

A Commercial,

Q: A seven-year-old granddaughter of RP being asked is your granddad going to win?

A: Win what?

Q: Being President.

A: What’s That?

Q: That’s Being The Most Important Person In The Country.

A: I Don’t Care He’s My Granddad.


Simple and beautiful

[empirenine]

I think that most of the people here that disagree with this idea are thinking WAY ahead of themselves.

This is pure name recognition, FREE OF CHARGE. No idiot will be changing his vote based on a video that involves these girls, but they sure as hell will know Dr. Paul's name after watching it. And that will create interest, which will hopefully create support, which will hopefully create votes.

Do we have a bunch of prudes in this thread? This idea barely involves sex appeal, much less "girls wanting to have sex", among other comments made. We have to adapt to a new crowd here people, not be worried about "sex appeal" tarnishing Ron Paul's image.

How can you have a "revolution" without thinking outside the box?

If you disagree with me, answer this: how do we plan to engage the 5 million potential viewers of this video, if not by this video?

[Man from La Mancha]

Uh are we looking for a Ron Paul girl or a stripper? If you looking for a stripper then you are at the wrong forum.

You can have a pretty face "represent" Ron Paul, but what you are talking about is like a girl stripping on YouTube. I don't see how that's going to help Ron Paul.

Edit: I have no problems having a pretty girl with a Ron Paul shirt on talking about him on YouTube. In fact, I think that is a great idea. But a girl stripping with cheesy music on in the background?


This was just an example of the numbers of views that sex appeal has, it was by no means an example to make as a Ron video. I did included the 1st one which also pulled huge numbers. The woman was fully clothed and did not make any sexual type movements.

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[Henry]

are you missing the boat, but as a matter of fact you have allready missed it.

No worries there is another one coming in 20012.



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Man from La Mancha;82469]This was just an example of the numbers of views that sex appeal has, it was by no means an example to make as a Ron video. I did included the 1st one which also pulled huge numbers. The woman was fully clothed and did not make any sexual type movements. [/QUOTE]

Good night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Man from La Mancha]

are you missing the boat, but as a matter of fact you have allready missed it.

No worries there is another one coming in 20012.




Man from La Mancha;82469]This was just an example of the numbers of views that sex appeal has, it was by no means an example to make as a Ron video. I did included the 1st one which also pulled huge numbers. The woman was fully clothed and did not make any sexual type movements. [/QUOTE]

Good night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

Yep I missed it on purpose and am planning to stick around and help Dr. Paul get elected in 2008 with as much voter reconition as possible.

[EvoPro]

All the people that have feared upcoming Ron Paul disasters have all been wrong so far. They are also wrong in this case.

[Avalon]

I think that most of the people here that disagree with this idea are thinking WAY ahead of themselves.

This is pure name recognition, FREE OF CHARGE. No idiot will be changing his vote based on a video that involves these girls, but they sure as hell will know Dr. Paul's name after watching it. And that will create interest, which will hopefully create support, which will hopefully create votes.
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If you disagree with me, answer this: how do we plan to engage the 5 million potential viewers of this video, if not by this video?

Exactly. Most Americans dislike hearing about politics so they filter it out. We need ways to get past the filters. The best way is for our meetup groups to split up our area and each member go to 500 doors to inform people of his existance (not try to convince them) and to distribute official campaign literature. But if you guys don't feel like doing that then gimmicks like these are needed to get name recognition and will force multiply with other efforts (on the first exposure most people are unlikely to look the candidate up...but after they learn the name they'll start seeing/hearing it everywhere and eventually will).

[DJ RP]

The Obama girl video didn't do Obama any harm. And seeing as it's NOT nudity and NOT endorsed by Ron Paul how can they smear him with it?

All it can do is help raise name awareness. Anybody who has a big issue with this has got to be pretty prudish considering youtubes ZERO nudity policy. The most it is is MTV style dancing... what's the big deal?

[Bloody Holly]

Uh are we looking for a Ron Paul girl or a stripper? If you looking for a stripper then you are at the wrong forum.

You can have a pretty face "represent" Ron Paul, but what you are talking about is like a girl stripping on YouTube. I don't see how that's going to help Ron Paul.

Edit: I have no problems having a pretty girl with a Ron Paul shirt on talking about him on YouTube. In fact, I think that is a great idea. But a girl stripping with cheesy music on in the background?

The thing is, there are pretty girls representing Ron Paul and have had you tube videos but they just aren't responding the way la macho wants them to.

If someone on this board wants to pay a pretty female to represent ron paul and make a video that is great but I hope to hell it isn't directed by la mancha. That guy watches wayyy too much porn you can tell just by the way he talks. I'm not even sure if he even knows Obama girl was paid and that video on you tube wasn't a low fi film either. It's just the way he was expecting females to just up and make a video stripping for free like Obama girl.

Seriously, Man from Lamancha if all you care about is stripping, go to a strip club, there are plenty of porn sites and I find it rather sketchy that you push this so much yet you won't take any necessary steps nor can you figure out that those models were paid to do it.

The females that talk about Ron Paul and have been for quite some time on You Tube, have had alot of views. I'm just rather sick of someone acting as though this campaign is 100 percent dependant on Ron Paul stripper girl when it's not.

I think the two candidates using this are paying for it themselves. It's actually very flattering to Obama because the more people copy that idea, the more valid he looks because if someone is copying you, you will always be thought of as the originator and get bonus points for each copycat referral if you catch my drift!


If someone more reasonable and realistic would set this video up and not someone suffering with BTS, I might think twice but there are way more clever things to do while others spend lavishly on gimmicks.

Sometimes if a chicken restaurant has a huge chicken mascot IE

http://www.costumesofnashua.com/CNWebSite105/Active905/Pages/Mascot/PicsMascot/MascotRI6508.jpg

Well OF COURSE you are going to drive by and stare. Doesn't mean you are going to eat their chicken!

[jorlowitz]

I'm curious if this thread reflects the left-right divide amongst libertarians, with a pragmatist third prong thrown in for good measure.

This site, Barely Political produces political satires of pop music videos. They're not partisan (except for certain parts, if you catch my drift). If you haven't seen their videos, they're funny. They're not girls stripping on youtube, and they have attracted enough attention to be mentioned in just about every mainstream publication including The Economist!.

[jonahtrainer]

I'm curious if this thread reflects the left-right divide amongst libertarians, with a pragmatist third prong thrown in for good measure.

This site, Barely Political produces political satires of pop music videos. They're not partisan (except for certain parts, if you catch my drift). If you haven't seen their videos, they're funny. They're not girls stripping on youtube, and they have attracted enough attention to be mentioned in just about every mainstream publication including The Economist!.

What we need is a JibJab (http://www.jibjab.com/originals/this_land) or two (http://www.jibjab.com/originals/second_term). Those things are hilarious! The other ones have always gone viral with tens of millions of views.

They could make a really unique one with Ron Paul because he is so unique in the political arena.

[Bloody Holly]

well if you truly believe it will help then set it up.

[empirenine]

To the people on this thread that oppose the idea of a "Ron Paul Girl", answer this:

How would you react to a widely covered MSM piece about a famous actor wearing a bold anti-Ron Paul message on it?

Would you be glad that millions of people would see the words "Ron Paul" for the first time, or would you be upset that someone was opposed to Dr. Paul?

[Man from La Mancha]

Bloody Mary, don't you read the preceding posts.


If someone on this board wants to pay a pretty female to represent ron paul and make a video that is great but I hope to hell it isn't directed by la mancha. That guy watches wayyy too much porn you can tell just by the way he talks. I'm not even sure if he even knows Obama girl was paid and that video on you tube wasn't a low fi film either. It's just the way he was expecting females to just up and make a video stripping for free like Obama girl.


I said, Don't need money just some intelligent hotty to make a video. You have no idea what I do to make accusations like that.



Seriously, Man from Lamancha if all you care about is stripping, go to a strip club, there are plenty of porn sites and I find it rather sketchy that you push this so much yet you won't take any necessary steps nor can you figure out that those models were paid to do it.


I said
This was just an example of the numbers of views that sex appeal has, it was by no means an example to make as a Ron video. I did included the 1st one which also pulled huge numbers. The woman was fully clothed and did not make any sexual type movements

Also I never saw any of those videos in my life before I did a youtube search under people and most viewed to find them.


The females that talk about Ron Paul and have been for quite some time on You Tube, have had alot of views. I'm just rather sick of someone acting as though this campaign is 100 percent dependant on Ron Paul stripper girl when it's not.

Those videos probably got most there hits when they 1st came out. They came out in 8/06. 11/06. 1/07. meaning the sooner someone puts out a video the more time it will have to draw more attention. It just keeps working for free.

Something else I never said that this is the "only way" never once did I say 100% dependent on. Just in your little furtile imagination. Have those other females even Rachel have never gotten over100,000.


I think the two candidates using this are paying for it themselves. It's actually very flattering to Obama because the more people copy that idea, the more valid he looks because if someone is copying you, you will always be thought of as the originator and get bonus points for each copycat referral if you catch my drift!
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another DUH Obama girl is using something done for centuries using sex too sell so you can also say that video is coping from the past. And if you did a little research Obama never paid for or had anything to do with the Obama girl just some Obama supporters.


If someone more reasonable and realistic would set this video up and not someone suffering with BTS, I might think twice but there are way more clever things to do while others spend lavishly on gimmicks.

And again. Who said spending any money, can't you get it in your head the examples I gave were done for FREEEE. Getting millions to notice Ron Paul for FREEE would be nice. And if I don't say it again your mind will make up all sorts of things I never said. Those last 2 videos were just examples how sex draws large numbers not the actual content for Ron's video.

man I will be real curious to see what your mind imagines I mean now.

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If you don't like this subject why are you so drawn to it and bother making comments????

[pyrazole]

aargh. This is why I'm usually a libertarian. Everyone just do what you want and quit trying to push your views. Right and wrong are sometimes subjective.

Bloody Mary and Man from La Mancha: Agree to disagree and vote your conscience on this. You'll never convince each other no matter how ugly it gets.

I'm with LadyJade in post #43. I'd love to see three mormon girls fresh off the set of "Big Love" crooning for Romney.

[TurtleBurger]

I don't think the advantage is so much sex appeal as it is image. Right now the image of Ron Paul is:
A) Young white males with bushy unkempt beards and taped glasses playing Dungeons & Dragons in the backroom of the GameStop (describing myself), and
B) Middle-aged white males with pit bulls and AK-47s talking about how the gummint's coming to get them (describing the rest of my family).
Both very nice groups of people once you get to know them, but it's a rather limited appeal. It would be great if message was everything, but unfortunately in modern America that's not yet the case; image counts too, and a more mainstream image can't hurt. I think the attraction of a video like this might not even be with horny males, but with semi-ditzy young women (possibly the most influential group in America) who want to be cool like the chick in the flick and subconsciously will become more open to learning about Ron Paul.