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SAVEamerica
05-21-2007, 07:24 PM
Here's part of a Giuliani speech in which he really shows his true colors. This is from 1994.


. . . . And they confuse that with teaching of religion. And we are afraid to reaffirm the basics upon which a lawful and a decent society are based. We're almost embarrassed by it.

We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.

[ Interruption by someone in the audience. ]

You have free speech so I can be heard.

[ Another interruption. ]

At the core the struggle is philosophical. There are many, many things that can be done in law enforcement to protect us better. There are many things that can done to create a government that is more responsive and more helpful. The fact is that we're fooling people if we suggest to them the solutions to these very, very deep-seated problems are going to be found in government. . . .
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E2D9173CF933A15750C0A9629582 60

Therion
05-21-2007, 07:31 PM
http://photos-944.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v72/123/91/5603069/n5603069_32792944_8953.jpg

retrorepublican
05-21-2007, 07:32 PM
what a completely hippocritical statement.. like i always say freedom can't be strapped in

jimmyjamsslo
05-21-2007, 07:37 PM
That's pretty heavy duty doublethink newspeak :)

I like the poster!!

Jimmy

Texan4Life
05-21-2007, 07:48 PM
WOW. Slap some quotes on that statement, and thats a poster worth printing.

Awesome pic Therion!!

TaoWarrior
05-21-2007, 07:54 PM
And to think in the second debate I said hey this guy scares me a little.

After reading that I clearly understated, this guy scares me ALOT.

"freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be"

holy crap National ID's, No Habeus Corpus, Torture, Domestic Survelance, and now Authority is freedom?

Yet the MSM calls Ron Paul the fringe?

Therion
05-21-2007, 08:20 PM
It's not mine. A guy on Facebook made it.

Patrick Henry
05-21-2007, 08:21 PM
Giuliani is a dangerous crank. He would be quite content on turning this country into the police state envisioned by Orwell. I find it so unbelieveble that the republican party has degenerated so far as to actually believe that this guy is somehow worthy to actually lead this country.

MsDoodahs
05-21-2007, 08:34 PM
:eek:

HOLY CRAP.

:eek:

CurtisLow
05-21-2007, 08:45 PM
http://12.47.45.78/rendered/cooltext55407142.gif

Giuliani is another puppet!

cujothekitten
05-21-2007, 09:38 PM
Rudy Giuliani being creepy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QCeFoB9KUY

TheConstitutionLives
05-21-2007, 09:43 PM
Nice poster no doubt! That's my new background image. Good stuff.