An e-mail from Mom

[ronpaulhawaii]

And my response,

What else should I have said?


Hi, This morning I had some time and viewed a couple of the videos that the campaign sent my e-mail. One was titled the CNN debate June, something. All it showed was the people with signs chanting and the interview of a few of them and their support. Nothing from Ron Paul himself. Most recent was from Las Vegas. 90% of it was campaign music a minute or the introduction, him at the podium with more music and about 1minute of him speaking. Where are the videos of him actually speaking on issues. I just see snippets. From what I have read and seen, he is sounding too much like an isolationist. 50 years ago we could have isolated ourselves from the world, perhaps,,,,,but today we just cannot. Withdrawing from the world bank, the united nations, etc. Just not a working solution. Interfering in other countries politics, making them a democracy.........definately need changing,,,but closing our nation from the world is a bad idea..............Just my thoughts so far, from what I've heard.................Love, Mom

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Glad for your thoughts,

RP is not an isolationist. He wants to trade with other countries, not fight them.


The UN and the World Bank are good ideas that are being used by bad people to serve their own agendas (Empire builders). Ron Paul is a ten term congressman that has served most of his time on banking and foreign affairs commitees. He knows alot more about this stuff than you or I could imagine. If you want to see his explanations go to

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html

He is a prolific writer.

One reason there is so little of him speaking in the debates is because they gave him very little time/questions. The reason his videos focus on supporters may be because, in the beginning, all of us were insulted by the way the media was downplaying his support and making it seem like we were just three kids in a basement "spamming" polls. Perhaps he is letting everyone know we are not alone.

If you actually read what he writes, I believe you will understand his direction

Finally, one must remember that, as much as Hillary and Cheney would like us to believe otherwise, the president is not that powerful. He could express his desire to leave the UN, but it would take Congress and the States to agree before anything like that began to happen and he would be retired before it actually happpened (if that is what WE wanted).

Busy busy...

with much love and aloha

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[RonPaulGetsIt]

send her to this wesbite and let her read for herself.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html

[RonPaulGetsIt]

sorry I didnt read your whole post - you were way ahead of me

[Slugg]

Google interview....I think it's great. Send her that.

But, so you can see how I handled talking to family about Ron Paul...here's what I sent my father in-law. My in-laws are great people and they attend church regularly....so I wanted to toss in a little on Dr. Ron Paul's Christianity....

Dad,
I have started supporting a Republican Presidential Candidate recently
and I would like you to look into him. I understand it is early and we
usually do not start thinking about these things till much later.
However, this man is different and needs the help of everyday people. He
has been a Congressmen for almost 20 years and his principals are
legendary. He has a PERFECT voting record. Meaning, he has:
Never voted to raise taxes.
Never voted to regulate (or tax) the Internet.
Never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
Never voted for an unbalanced budget (this is huge).
Never taken a government paid junket.
and Never accepted money from any special interest group.

He also returns a portion of his Congressional pay to the Department of
Treasury every year.

He is not getting much media attention at the moment because he still
refuses to take money from corporations and special interest groups. If
you have been looking for an honest, intelligent, and Christian centered
candidate...this is him! I am very excited about him.

Here is Ron Paul introducing himself and his basic views. It is a good
way to get a feel for who he is. It is about 7 min.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPlPT4bncq8&mode=related&search=

Here is a portion of a speech he gave at a Rally last month. This is
7min.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsLcQiHKhic


Here is a longer video of the presidential debate. Here you can listen
to Ron Paul answer questions and hear is views on many more issues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7d_e9lrcZ8&mode=related&search=

If you would like to learn even more about Dr. Ron Paul you can go to
his website at www.ronpaul2008.com

Love,
Phill

[Birdlady]

I find family isn't worth trying to wake up. :) Just give them the information and move on. Don't try to force the issue unless of course your family is open minded, but from the sounds of the response she watches too much TV.

Mothers, fathers, and even siblings have a hard time admitting what they think is "wrong". They identify their personal power and worth with the person they vote for and if you challenge that, they think you have challenged them as a fellow family member. I have been on my mother for 4 years now (with other topics as well) and I think she may actually support Ron Paul, but it's nothing that I have done. She has seen him speak years ago somewhere and loved what he had to say.

If Ron Paul is coming to your area, take her to see him. Good luck, but don't let her take too much of your energy.

This may not be the answer you are looking for but I am known for that on these boards and well any board I post on. haha :p

[dmitchell]

LewRockwell.com archives are fine, but I prefer RonPaulLibrary.org, where articles are organized by topic.

[ronpaulhawaii]

Google interview....I think it's great. Send her that.

But, so you can see how I handled talking to family about Ron Paul...here's what I sent my father in-law. My in-laws are great people and they attend church regularly....so I wanted to toss in a little on Dr. Ron Paul's Christianity....

Dad,
I have started supporting a Republican Presidential Candidate recently
and I would like you to look into him. I understand it is early and we
usually do not start thinking about these things till much later.
However, this man is different and needs the help of everyday people. He
has been a Congressmen for almost 20 years and his principals are
legendary. He has a PERFECT voting record. Meaning, he has:
Never voted to raise taxes.
Never voted to regulate (or tax) the Internet.
Never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
Never voted for an unbalanced budget (this is huge).
Never taken a government paid junket.
and Never accepted money from any special interest group.

He also returns a portion of his Congressional pay to the Department of
Treasury every year.

He is not getting much media attention at the moment because he still
refuses to take money from corporations and special interest groups. If
you have been looking for an honest, intelligent, and Christian centered
candidate...this is him! I am very excited about him.

Here is Ron Paul introducing himself and his basic views. It is a good
way to get a feel for who he is. It is about 7 min.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPlPT4bncq8&mode=related&search=

Here is a portion of a speech he gave at a Rally last month. This is
7min.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsLcQiHKhic


Here is a longer video of the presidential debate. Here you can listen
to Ron Paul answer questions and hear is views on many more issues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7d_e9lrcZ8&mode=related&search=

If you would like to learn even more about Dr. Ron Paul you can go to
his website at www.ronpaul2008.com

Love,
Phill

Thanks, the google video will be good as will the other links, and your angle has good points


I find family isn't worth trying to wake up. :) Just give them the information and move on. Don't try to force the issue unless of course your family is open minded, but from the sounds of the response she watches too much TV.

Mothers, fathers, and even siblings have a hard time admitting what they think is "wrong". They identify their personal power and worth with the person they vote for and if you challenge that, they think you have challenged them as a fellow family member. I have been on my mother for 4 years now (with other topics as well) and I think she may actually support Ron Paul, but it's nothing that I have done. She has seen him speak years ago somewhere and loved what he had to say.

If Ron Paul is coming to your area, take her to see him. Good luck, but don't let her take too much of your energy.

This may not be the answer you are looking for but I am known for that on these boards and well any board I post on. haha :p

I disagree about family but that is me. We live 6000 miles apart but are close. She is getting these emails from HQ, since donating after I asked her to help boost his 2q #s. She is interested but is 72 and has a different outlook than many of us.


LewRockwell.com archives are fine, but I prefer RonPaulLibrary.org, where articles are organized by topic.

Thanks, that's better...

mahalo all and

KUTGW

[trispear]

Your mother has been duped by the media who doesn't even know the meaning of the terms they use, they just parrot each other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolationism

Isolationism is a foreign policy which combines a non-interventionist military policy and a political policy of economic nationalism (protectionism). In other words, it asserts both of the following:

1. Non-interventionism - Political rulers should avoid entangling alliances with other nations and avoid all wars not related to direct territorial self-defense.
2. Protectionism - There should be legal barriers to prevent trade and cultural exchange with people in other states.


Not to be confused with the non-interventionist philosophy and foreign policy of the libertarian world view and the Libertarian Party, which espouses unrestricted Free trade and freedom of travel for individuals to all countries.

What Dr. Paul advocates will have the opposite effect as we trade and talk with people. Our current president is the one that encourages an isolationist effect as we make more enemies than friends.

[Paulitician]

Have you sent your mom these interviews? If you haven't, how could you not?

GoldSilver with Mike Maloney (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1045924545087333822)

The Korelin Economics Report (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5221456295960798255)

Ron Paul in Town Hall Forum: Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCoDbFVaJ8), Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqrj-Gak_Us), Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeefPvm-MAM), Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bocmxuwvL4I), Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVh0_1vu1Gw), Part 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YQtfVGnG8k)

"The Exchange" Interview: Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdtqUPk1x3I), Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujAJfNXpEiw), Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY6wta7R2Zs), Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iPgTj6svmk), Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W777MNLKSeY)

NPR Interview: Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn68ctgfeRQ), Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD7qkbi3x3o), Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD6EJtzuzGg), Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOT6Rs0pzc4), Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjo8aQ6Vboc)

MyLongLife.com Interview with Fintan Dunne (http://www.ronpaulaudio.com/rpaudio/RonPaulFintanDunneInterviewMyLongLife.com071007.mp 3)

[jblosser]

The NPR interview and google interview are far and away the best video sources of his views. The NPR interview also includes biography information that is very useful. If you have someone willing to sit and watch 30 minutes to an hour, there's no question that's the one to show them.

Along with the other things said about the difference between non-interventionism and isolationism, it's very important to point out that Dr. Paul is *first* a Constitutionalist. His first argument against a policy of interventionism and being in the UN/etc. is that it *is not legal* under the Constitution. If people think that the world has changed and that we need to do these things, they should first amend the Constitution to make it legal. If we don't have rule of law then we have no idea what will happen from one President to the next, and the world has not changed so much that chaos and complete instability are called for.

People can disagree with Dr. Paul on every single thing he calls for but if they at least agree we should change the law before changing how we act he is still their only candidate.

[agisthos]

Your mum has a point about the last few campaign videos featuring almost nothing about Ron Paul.

While those videos are great for us cos we are getting a bit bored, new Ron Paul fans would wonder what is going on.

[micahnelson]

Ron Paul isn't an isolationist, he supports free trade with other nations. When you think about it, the US is becoming isolationist in all areas other than military force.

What does the UN and the world bank really do anyway? We should definitely talk and communicate with other countries, but we should never have to be subservient to them. The UN security council wrote a check that the US military had to cash by enforcing a resolution in Iraq. Ron Paul understood what the fallout would be while our current leaders thought we would be welcomed with open arms.

Ron Paul will use the military to stop imminent threats, and has even considered sending troops into pakistan to catch bin laden-something even the staunchest Hawks wouldn't do. He believes wars should be fought for a reason, and with a goal so that they do not get mired in politics.

He supports border control to keep terrorists from sneaking in, and missile defense to stop rogue states like North Korea from targeting us or our allies.

[ronpaulhawaii]

Have you sent your mom these interviews? If you haven't, how could you not?



Perfect, thanks...


The NPR interview and google interview are far and away the best video sources of his views. The NPR interview also includes biography information that is very useful. If you have someone willing to sit and watch 30 minutes to an hour, there's no question that's the one to show them.

Along with the other things said about the difference between non-interventionism and isolationism, it's very important to point out that Dr. Paul is *first* a Constitutionalist. His first argument against a policy of interventionism and being in the UN/etc. is that it *is not legal* under the Constitution. If people think that the world has changed and that we need to do these things, they should first amend the Constitution to make it legal. If we don't have rule of law then we have no idea what will happen from one President to the next, and the world has not changed so much that chaos and complete instability are called for.

People can disagree with Dr. Paul on every single thing he calls for but if they at least agree we should change the law before changing how we act he is still their only candidate.

Yes, I will send her the NPR videos first. And your point about Constitutionalist will be re-inforced


Your mum has a point about the last few campaign videos featuring almost nothing about Ron Paul.

While those videos are great for us cos we are getting a bit bored, new Ron Paul fans would wonder what is going on.

Glad you noticed this. I agree.


Ron Paul isn't an isolationist, he supports free trade with other nations. When you think about it, the US is becoming isolationist in all areas other than military force.

What does the UN and the world bank really do anyway? We should definitely talk and communicate with other countries, but we should never have to be subservient to them. The UN security council wrote a check that the US military had to cash by enforcing a resolution in Iraq. Ron Paul understood what the fallout would be while our current leaders thought we would be welcomed with open arms.

Ron Paul will use the military to stop imminent threats, and has even considered sending troops into pakistan to catch bin laden-something even the staunchest Hawks wouldn't do. He believes wars should be fought for a reason, and with a goal so that they do not get mired in politics.

He supports border control to keep terrorists from sneaking in, and missile defense to stop rogue states like North Korea from targeting us or our allies.

Thank you everyone, these points will help elsewhere as well.

[Birdlady]

I disagree about family but that is me. We live 6000 miles apart but are close. She is getting these emails from HQ, since donating after I asked her to help boost his 2q #s. She is interested but is 72 and has a different outlook than many of us.


Well then the difference here is that you live 6,000 miles apart. I live 30 minutes away. Parents treat you like crap when you live close and treat you like a queen when you move away.

My parents are much younger than your mom too. My mom is a Neo-con so understand what I have gone through when I say to move on.

[ronpaulitician]

Your mum has a point about the last few campaign videos featuring almost nothing about Ron Paul.

While those videos are great for us cos we are getting a bit bored, new Ron Paul fans would wonder what is going on.
It's about the message, not the vehicle. Paul has said so himself time and time again (even in the Google video). Ron Paul videos need to focus on the message, not the person.

[ronpaulhawaii]

...My mom is a Neo-con so understand what I have gone through when I say to move on.

Yes, I'm sure she is a tougher sell than my left leaning Ma. Thanks for your thoughts...

KUTGW

m

[ronpaulhawaii]

It's about the message, not the vehicle. Paul has said so himself time and time again (even in the Google video). Ron Paul videos need to focus on the message, not the person.

Her point was that many of the videos don't include much of him delivering his msg, a newbie is left wondering. I think she raises a valid point.

And, I still suspect she may be playing me with some of her "objections"...

m
www.ronpaul2008.com/donate

[ronpaulhawaii]

Update -

After sitting down with my family and showing them around the RP net and watching an hour of freeme.tv. My brother ( a strong green party activist ) decided to registar as a republican for RP. My mom also agreed and I went with her today to the election board.

Imagine our dissappointment when we were told she would not be eligible to vote in primaries until after Nov. 2008.

??? Is this common knowledge that I missed ??? Are other closed states similar? This will nullify any effort in NY to register new voters to help in the primary.

This bites, I was so stoked...

On the up side, she decided then and there to send another hunski to RP.

Methinks RP might want to reconsider his decision about running independantly if all of us wannabe voters are excluded...

[LibertyEagle]

The NPR Interview has been REMOVED. Crud. Anyone have it elsewhere?

[njandrewg]

pretty sure thats illegal, see what others have to say, and then go back and get that person's information and tell them you'll be contacting news or something

[Hook]

I'm almost certain that the clerk was wrong about the primary. There is a website that shows all of the state laws in a tab format that I can't find at the moment. It was written specifically for Ron Paul delegates. If you haven't found it, I will look after work and post it here.

[maiki]

More views on issues: the YouChoose spotlight videos are good.

[nexalacer]

8 part series on the NPR "On Point" interview begins here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGU30BQPSAc

You can find the rest through the same user.

[ronpaulhawaii]

I'm almost certain that the clerk was wrong about the primary. There is a website that shows all of the state laws in a tab format that I can't find at the moment. It was written specifically for Ron Paul delegates. If you haven't found it, I will look after work and post it here.

I have not found the link you mention, I have been looking for hours and am getting a web run-around.

What I have found is a bit confusing:

http://www.dutchesselections.com/voters/voter_calendar.html


Important dates for registration

The 2007 Official Political Calendar has just been released. This page will updated soon with important dates. Until then please see the 2007 Official Political Calendar

which leads to this:

http://www.elections.state.ny.us/NYSBOE/law/2007PoliticalCalendar.pdf

which would indicate that the clerk is either mis, or dis, informing voters at the Board of Elections.

I just e-mailed the local MUO and am waiting for a reply, if anyone else can help here it would be appreciated. I really look forward to helping get new supporters to register while I'm here and this really puts a damper on that...



8 part series on the NPR "On Point" interview begins here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGU30BQPSAc

You can find the rest through the same user.

Thanks alot for this, I lost the old links and other prospects are asking for good info...

KUTGW