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jgrif33
01-08-2008, 10:52 AM
epic turnout

tsetsefly
01-08-2008, 10:53 AM
holly shit, bad news for use because we are losing the anti-war vote fuck...

Eponym_mi
01-08-2008, 10:53 AM
I hope they'll ask for a Republican ballot instead and vote for RP!

Molly1
01-08-2008, 10:54 AM
well they'll just have to go vote for Ron Paul!

They think they are voting anti war but Ron Paul is the only anti war candidate.

MayTheRonBeWithYou
01-08-2008, 10:54 AM
Lol, Obama is going to bury the Clintons once and for all. :)

mosquitobite
01-08-2008, 10:54 AM
I hope they'll ask for a Republican ballot instead and vote for RP!

HELL YEAH!!!

rp08orbust
01-08-2008, 10:54 AM
No problem, Republicans have plenty--they can vote for Ron Paul.

GHoeberX
01-08-2008, 10:55 AM
holly shit, bad news for use because we are losing the anti-war vote fuck...

Indeed not good; all the young and independent anti-war voters going for Obama I guess :o

mosquitobite
01-08-2008, 10:55 AM
No problem, Republicans have plenty--they can vote for Ron Paul.

I also worry they'll vote for McCain. Let's hope not!


We really should be focusing our efforts on getting Obama voters OVER HERE! Obama talks change, but ask them "what will he REALLY change?" :rolleyes:

junior_bacon_cheeseburger
01-08-2008, 10:55 AM
i hate sheep

pacelli
01-08-2008, 10:55 AM
The independents are surging for Obama. Not good news for RP. I'm going to be pissed if McCain takes this for republicans.

Eponym_mi
01-08-2008, 10:55 AM
If these Dem voters are made to wait for a Dem ballot, they might just say screw it and either go home or ask for a Republican ballot...this could be good.

CountryRoads
01-08-2008, 10:56 AM
I'll be voting for Ron Paul whereever and whenever, but we can all at least celebrate the end of the Clinton era. Thank God Hillary is going down in flames.

Talldude1412
01-08-2008, 10:56 AM
::whince:: I don't like the sound of this.

Cross fingers!

itshappening
01-08-2008, 10:57 AM
hopefully the exit polls make clear that obama is an easy winner with 40%+ of the vote

then folks might go and support Ron

Jimmy
01-08-2008, 10:58 AM
Why would the independents who are anti war vote democrat when they have a anti war republican? Obviously a anti war canidate is going to win ( against a pro war republican)....why not corner the field? Rather then take a chance on a pro war republican sneaking in somehow?

GHoeberX
01-08-2008, 10:58 AM
The independents are surging for Obama. Not good news for RP. I'm going to be pissed if McCain takes this for republicans.

Better McCain than Romney. The longer and the more divided the GOP-race will be, the better for Ron Paul. For example it's good Thompson did well in Iowa, because now he'll continue for a while and take votes which most likely wouldn't have gone to Ron Paul anyway.

jgrif33
01-08-2008, 10:58 AM
this is good news for Romney and Paul I think. All these bandwagon jumpers were not going to vote for Paul they were going to vote for McCain or Huck (if they were leaning R).

Talldude1412
01-08-2008, 10:59 AM
The independents are surging for Obama. Not good news for RP. I'm going to be pissed if McCain takes this for republicans.

McCain was banking on getting the indie votes, he may now end up getting a lot less than he originally thought <-- good for us, but this will probably mean that Romney will be a lot more likely to beat him. <--- what this means for us is dicey, could very well mean that the dissaffected republican and anti-war indies we wanted are chasing down Obama now..... thats bad.

Eponym_mi
01-08-2008, 10:59 AM
hopefully the exit polls make clear that obama is an easy winner with 40%+ of the vote

then folks might go and support Ron

No exit polls until much later, but just a rumor that Obama is easily winning on the Dem side might give people that are weighing either Obama or RP a reason to make a decision toward RP.

RoyalShock
01-08-2008, 11:01 AM
No exit polls until much later, but just a rumor that Obama is easily winning on the Dem side might give people that are weighing either Obama or RP a reason to make a decision toward RP.

That's exactly what I was thinking/hoping.

synthetic
01-08-2008, 11:02 AM
epic turnout


Don't believe the hype.

AisA1787
01-08-2008, 11:03 AM
Make no mistake, Obama is ten times worse than Hillary, and much more difficult to beat in the general election. This is not good.

dannno
01-08-2008, 11:05 AM
why not corner the field? Rather then take a chance on a pro war republican sneaking in somehow?

This was the very first thought that popped into my head after hearing Ron Paul say 2 sentences back in the May or June debates...

Then I read more about him and found out pretty much all our views align and he was better than any candidate in the field..

stevedasbach
01-08-2008, 11:05 AM
Bad for New Hampshire -- good for future primaries. If Obama appears to have this wrapped up, it will make it easier to get antiwar votes for Paul in future primaries. We just have to do well enough today to stay in the game. That is, we have to get our identified voters to the polls.

It all depends on GOTV now.

A. Havnes
01-08-2008, 11:06 AM
I think a big problem is that people are just tired of the republican party right now. People want change in the country, so they're going to vote for someone who's the opposite of Bush: a democrat. Going the extra mile, let's make that a black democrat. We have to open peoples' eyes to the fact that Ron Paul is a republican, but an anti-war republican. He can save the republican party.

Devil_rules_in_extremes
01-08-2008, 11:07 AM
I think a big problem is that people are just tired of the republican party right now. People want change in the country, so they're going to vote for someone who's the opposite of Bush: a democrat. Going the extra mile, let's make that a black democrat. We have to open peoples' eyes to the fact that Ron Paul is a republican, but an anti-war republican. He can save the republican party.

The thing is, the DEMS are no different than Bush. Both are big government warfare/welfare State supporters....

Talldude1412
01-08-2008, 11:10 AM
The thing is, the DEMS are no different than Bush. Both are big government warfare/welfare State supporters....

They don't care. But you are right, the dems are in my eyes everything that people hate about Bush. He's a huge spender, huge gov't grower, interventionist, and a fire-brand at that. The dems are interventionists, and big gov't, big spending, and they use plenty of rhetoric. It's disheartening.

Joel High
01-08-2008, 11:13 AM
I don't think the high turn out is going to be as bad as people are saying.

Over 40% of the voters are independent which is good for Ron Paul.
I'm sure that not all of them are voting for Obama. Some are probably voting for McCain which I figured he'd probably win anyway (which isn't a bad thing, 3 winners in 3 states)

I would be shocked however if many of them were voting for Guiliani, Huckabee or Thompson.
So, I'm hoping it bumps our numbers and drops their numbers...and 3rd place ain't so bad.

AgentPaul001
01-08-2008, 11:14 AM
^ Huckabee could do fairly well with all the media coverage. But Thompson will likely do attrocious and Guliani is a mixed bag.

barbz
01-08-2008, 11:19 AM
Make no mistake, Obama is ten times worse than Hillary, and much more difficult to beat in the general election. This is not good.

True, but there's still a long way to go. If we could just find some good dirt on him, we could take him down before it comes to that. :)

Joel High
01-08-2008, 11:27 AM
Make no mistake, Obama is ten times worse than Hillary, and much more difficult to beat in the general election. This is not good.

The second most important thing (at least in my opinion) is that there is a change of guard in the White House. 28 years of a Bush or a Clinton, I do not want to see 4 or even 8 more years of that two family dynasty.

For the Record, I also lump Giuliani into that family...He's pretty much just Bush, but maybe a little smarter.

Obama may end up being a worse president than Hitlary, but she guarantees that the line in the sand between the two parties will never be erased. Obama at least would have a shot.

expatinireland
01-08-2008, 11:28 AM
Why would the independents who are anti war vote democrat when they have a anti war republican? Obviously a anti war canidate is going to win ( against a pro war republican)....why not corner the field? Rather then take a chance on a pro war republican sneaking in somehow?

Unfortunately the predominate message coming across from the Republican side is pro war ie. McCains 100 year war. So, people I imagine are not voting for the dems but against what they perceive as the pro war party.

Eponym_mi
01-08-2008, 11:32 AM
Just heard the out of Dem ballots story on MSNBC. No need for a rumor...tell NH voters that unless they want to wait all day to vote to ask for a Republican ballot instead and vote for RP!

Thomas Paine
01-08-2008, 11:33 AM
If Obama blows away Hillary Clinton today, then Hillary may very well skip Nevada and SC primaries (and probably Michigan) because despite raising $100 Million last year, she has spent most of it and is down to $15 Million. Hillary is desparate to conserve cash for Super Tuesday. This means that Independents in South Carolina and Michigan are ripe for the picking. Don't give up hope yet. Here is an article supporting the foregoing:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/08/clinton-allies-may-dump-m_n_80460.html

rollingpig
01-08-2008, 11:34 AM
not good! Obama is taking away our votes

jgrif33
01-08-2008, 11:39 AM
Don't fool yourselves. Obama is hurting McCain more than any other candidate and McCain may well be finished in this race come tomorrow if Romney's people can GOTV. I don't buy into the notion that RP is losing votes to Obama because they were never going to vote for him anyway. Personally, I think the Obama surge is killing McCain and Huckabee (the two MSM R bandwagon candidates).

rodo1776
01-08-2008, 11:44 AM
High turnout is the only way we do well. We are running against the Establishment. Sow what if the majority of the extra turnout goes to Obama. Not all of of it is for him and we then have a chance that a chunk of it for us. High turnout is not bad. Now with the lack of ballots as pointed out by others opportunity. As the MSm predicts big victory for Obama then we have chance for later voters who now can support the other change candidate RP. Thompson is already in SC. Gully boy is out of it. Let McCain win big so what. My question and does anyone have any on the ground info from there: IS HUCK trucking in Christians and is a big part of the high turnout? IF this is not the case then we can pull out third.
Keep the GOTV going and have people by the polls suggesting to vote GOP for change at polling places without DEM ballots.
This could mean third place.

Sarge
01-08-2008, 11:49 AM
Just a thought. Obama is likely taking more votes away from McCain, Mitt and Huck.

I doubt the Ron Paul voter is going to change. Taking votes away from those three might up our percentages when all is said and done. Getting out every last voter for Ron Paul, that we can, before the poles close might move him up higher then we are thinking.

I have to stop holding my breath all day. Come on all, make my Birthday today!

Andrew-Austin
01-08-2008, 11:49 AM
I'll be voting for Ron Paul whereever and whenever, but we can all at least celebrate the end of the Clinton era. Thank God Hillary is going down in flames.

Obama is just as bad as Hillary, and he is less transparent. Hes better at jabbing the masses in a certain direction.

Michigan11
01-08-2008, 11:49 AM
Then We Will Raise More Money!

ronpaul.in
01-08-2008, 11:51 AM
http://obamala.com/

mjp1025
01-08-2008, 11:55 AM
I simply cannot understand a person of the younger generation voting for McCain. He'll draft them and ship them overseas to further the NeoCon cause!!!!

ROXNeutrino5
01-08-2008, 11:56 AM
You guys need to think this through. Ron Paul's supporters are committed, the vast majority of them will not change over to another candidate so easily. This is self-evident. "100 Years" McCain supporters, however, don't even know where he stands on the issues. Same with the Huckster. Support for the MSM candidates is very fluid, and look, they've just gone over to Obama.

This is very good news for us, in my estimation. It means we even have a shot at winning NH, because the establishment Republican candidates cannot hold on to the "unenlightened" independents. Its all on us to GOTFV (Get Out the Friggin' Vote) though. Its do or die time.

BIG_J
01-08-2008, 12:02 PM
So; how are they going to draft me? After playing football and wrestling for 10 years my knees are completely trashed; I mean surgeries; and my shoulders are gone.

I mean there has got to be tons of people in the 25-30 age range that could have been draftable; but now due to all sorts of extreme sports injuries could not go and serve; someone please explain this to me?! Not to mention most 25-30 year olds are now college educated careerists...

Tell me why I wouldn't just burn my draft card and move to another country. There can't be THAT many 18-23 year olds can there?!

lvp1138
01-08-2008, 12:07 PM
If Obama blows away Hillary Clinton today, then Hillary may very well skip Nevada and SC primaries (and probably Michigan) because despite raising $100 Million last year, she has spent most of it and is down to $15 Million. Hillary is desparate to conserve cash for Super Tuesday. This means that Independents in South Carolina and Michigan are ripe for the picking. Don't give up hope yet. Here is an article supporting the foregoing:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/08/clinton-allies-may-dump-m_n_80460.html

How the heck can that woman spend $100 million so quickly????

michaelwise
01-08-2008, 12:19 PM
Make no mistake, Obama is ten times worse than Hillary, and much more difficult to beat in the general election. This is not good.Since our country is already going down, it might as well go down in flames with what Obama has to offer. I say, Just get it over with as quickly as possible.

Trigonx
01-08-2008, 12:26 PM
I simply cannot understand a person of the younger generation voting for McCain. He'll draft them and ship them overseas to further the NeoCon cause!!!!

i have no idea either, he'd be the absolute last guy i would vote for... well ahead of guliani but way back there

Ronin
01-08-2008, 12:56 PM
Since our country is already going down, it might as well go down in flames with what Obama has to offer. I say, Just get it over with as quickly as possible.

Race drivers have a saying something like: "When in doubt, floor it! You may crash, but you end the suspense". I'm about ready for the suspense to end...

RonPaulNLiveFree
01-08-2008, 01:02 PM
i dont see a link to the story on drudge, just the headline, and who cares, it's prbably just 1 or 2 precincts overblown to be a huge stink

Thomas Paine
01-08-2008, 01:03 PM
So; how are they going to draft me? After playing football and wrestling for 10 years my knees are completely trashed; I mean surgeries; and my shoulders are gone.

I mean there has got to be tons of people in the 25-30 age range that could have been draftable; but now due to all sorts of extreme sports injuries could not go and serve; someone please explain this to me?! Not to mention most 25-30 year olds are now college educated careerists...

Tell me why I wouldn't just burn my draft card and move to another country. There can't be THAT many 18-23 year olds can there?!

The neocons will prop you up in an M-1 Abrams tank.

JenH88
01-08-2008, 01:15 PM
The second most important thing (at least in my opinion) is that there is a change of guard in the White House. 28 years of a Bush or a Clinton, I do not want to see 4 or even 8 more years of that two family dynasty.

For the Record, I also lump Giuliani into that family...He's pretty much just Bush, but maybe a little smarter.

Obama may end up being a worse president than Hitlary, but she guarantees that the line in the sand between the two parties will never be erased. Obama at least would have a shot.


Obama is related to Bush...:rolleyes: