getting ready to talk about military donations on fox [Archive]

Johnnybags

07-20-2007, 09:03 AM

with Paul. Its a military neocon channel but the military(GI) types now realize its a farce, its a mini Pravda. Now becoming obvious to all but the most obtuse, plant a seed with your grandparents that they are being brainwashed.

AlexAmore

07-20-2007, 09:04 AM

Well at least it will pique curiosity, in case they don't even go back to the story.

Scribbler de Stebbing

07-20-2007, 09:04 AM

Probably got the info via d'anconia on Hannity's show Wednesday. Way to go D'anconia!

beermotor

07-20-2007, 09:08 AM

Yeah that was a coup, I listened to the mp3, quite amusing.

quickmike

07-20-2007, 09:08 AM

I'll be shocked if they say Ron Paul. I just cant see it happening

Gunslinger

07-20-2007, 09:10 AM

Just make sure to record it for YouTube if they do! :)

Edit: Afterall, the coverage Faux News has given to Ron Paul has been 100% negative.

Thatguyuknow

07-20-2007, 09:18 AM

I think the begging question is what was remaxjon doing watching Fox news :D

BIG_J

07-20-2007, 09:20 AM

what is the moneyline on them mentioning ron paul...?

DisabledVet

07-20-2007, 09:21 AM

And the Candidate with the most Military donations is (Insert: Barak, or Hillary, or anyone but Ron) Why? Fox will consider defense contractors as part of the military....

PatriotOne

07-20-2007, 09:21 AM

Good lord. Watching Fox must be what "enhanced torture" feels like at Guatanamo Bay. Get on with the RP segment so I can shut it off :eek:

SWATH

07-20-2007, 09:22 AM

No doubt they will spin it. I'll bet they only mention that Repubs got more donations then Dems and therfore must support the war.

BIG_J

07-20-2007, 09:22 AM

LMAO...

Now, that would be just "IT"...

Slugg

07-20-2007, 09:23 AM

Good lord. Watching Fox must be what "enhanced torture" feels like at Guatanamo Bay. Get on with the RP segment so I can shut it off :eek:

It's not quite that bad. It's like Mother Goose does the news. Avoid words with more than two syllables, no abstract thinking, and remember that the boogie-man is out there just waiting to pounce.

quickmike

07-20-2007, 09:24 AM

-5

DjLoTi

07-20-2007, 09:25 AM

Tell us what/when (it) happens

remaxjon

07-20-2007, 09:27 AM

I think the begging question is what was remaxjon doing watching Fox news :D

I watch it all and Ed Hill is a POA

Sematary

07-20-2007, 09:35 AM

has it happened yet?

BLS

07-20-2007, 09:35 AM

Cripes, has it happened yet? I want to go on with my day.

Slugg

07-20-2007, 09:37 AM

Cripes, has it happened yet? I want to go on with my day.

I actually laughed out loud at this.....:D

quickmike

07-20-2007, 09:39 AM

Im at home with the flu today, so ive got nothing but time

remaxjon

07-20-2007, 09:41 AM

Cripes, has it happened yet? I want to go on with my day.

not yet its been an almost hour long tease. There is another thread about this on here and 2 other people heard the same thing so it should be happening very soon

Scribbler de Stebbing

07-20-2007, 09:41 AM

Cripes, has it happened yet? I want to go on with my day.

Unfortunately, most days are like this. We sit here with our tongues hanging out waiting for that interview or word from (fill in the blank) or just having to know how the next big Blowback event is going to turn out.

Do you guys have any idea what condition my house is in? :eek:

angelatc

07-20-2007, 09:42 AM

I am ready to crawl through the screen and choke those hate-filled neocons.

BIG_J

07-20-2007, 09:42 AM

Fox needs to hurry it up...

BLS

07-20-2007, 09:43 AM

I am ready to crawl through the screen and choke those hate-filled neocons.

I laughed out loud at this post....:D

llamabread

07-20-2007, 09:44 AM

Ohh boy, the skintight space suits are up next, right after the parents are idiots and need their kids taken away piece!

The Dane

07-20-2007, 09:44 AM

But maybe some uninformed repubs are also hanging on their TV to know THE TRUTH ABOUT WHO THE MILITARY SUPPORTS !!!

FOX fish viewers for this news and then give RP a fair treat :confused: :eek:
- that would be nothing less than a breakthrough (yet another).

But lets see...

foofighter20x

07-20-2007, 09:45 AM

I am ready to crawl through the screen and choke those hate-filled neocons.

*slaps top of her helmet*

good luck, soldier! choke away!

Scribbler de Stebbing

07-20-2007, 09:45 AM

Times like these I'm glad I don't watch television. Much easier to sit here and type and receive the news vicariously while you good people suffer.

DeadheadForPaul

07-20-2007, 09:45 AM

I'd like to see O'reilly or Hannity/Colmes report on this, but more than likely, if they do, they'll find some way to marginalize Paul. I guarantee they started looking into this as soon as they heard about it

MsDoodahs

07-20-2007, 09:46 AM

you guys crack me up.

THANK YOU!

Slugg

07-20-2007, 09:48 AM

you guys crack me up.

THANK YOU!

Gotta raise the moral of the troops ya know.. :D :cool:

Scribbler de Stebbing

07-20-2007, 09:50 AM

remaxjon posted the teaser over an hour ago. SURELY they don't run a teaser that far in advance, do they?

Sematary

07-20-2007, 09:50 AM

They are STILL promoing it

llamabread

07-20-2007, 09:50 AM

Just pulled the teaser again before a commercial break. Should be coming up soon.

brumans

07-20-2007, 09:51 AM

Sounds like it's going to be about Ron Paul.

They just said

Guess who got the most military donations? You will not believe the answer!

DjLoTi

07-20-2007, 09:51 AM

madness

remaxjon

07-20-2007, 09:51 AM

remaxjon posted the teaser over an hour ago. SURELY they don't run a teaser that far in advance, do they?

come on I need a little more faith

Slugg

07-20-2007, 09:51 AM

Just pulled the teaser again before a commercial break. Should be coming up soon.

You know, I can't even get Fox news where I'm at. But it's fun as hell to participate in this conversation.

MsDoodahs

07-20-2007, 09:52 AM

E.D. Hill has been married what, 5 times now?

Tuck

07-20-2007, 09:52 AM

I want that device to notify me if my plants need watering

IRO-bot

07-20-2007, 09:53 AM

You know, I can't even get Fox news where I'm at. But it's fun as hell to participate in this conversation.

I know!!! We should take a forum pool.

I don't think they will say Ron Paul.

Kandilynn

07-20-2007, 09:53 AM

GAH! I'm supposed to be packing to go to South Carolina and now I'm waiting for the commercial to end so I can hear news about Ron Paul that I already know.

Sematary

07-20-2007, 09:54 AM

WOO HOO! They actually said his name.

DeadheadForPaul

07-20-2007, 09:54 AM

They said it! Fox is breaking down

hah of course he's using those crazy libertarian mailing lists...here go the attempts to marginalize

quickmike

07-20-2007, 09:54 AM

WOO HOO! They actually said his name.

no shit? .............. was a hit piece included?

angelatc

07-20-2007, 09:55 AM

"according to web sites...." God forbid they actually verify their source.

Sematary

07-20-2007, 09:55 AM

and they still find a way to marginalize it

MsDoodahs

07-20-2007, 09:56 AM

"HOME RUN WITH THE MILITARY."

Michael Barone.

ED had five guesses and missed every one.

YAY THEY SAID HIS NAME AND SHOWED HIS PICTURE!

Ron Paul not one of the names you hear when people talk about front runners.

Second McCain.

BARONE said he GUESSES that Ron Paul actively courted military through mass mailings.

lol...

llamabread

07-20-2007, 09:56 AM

"He probably used one of those Libertarian mailing lists with some military people on it"

AHHHHHHHHHH

BIG_J

07-20-2007, 09:56 AM

I can't believe they said his name, maybe all t he high level managment is on vacation today; giving some RP insider a break to produce a segment with ron paul in it, knowing that all the editors and producers are out on thier 600000 lake resort mansions, fishing and jetskiing???

Sematary

07-20-2007, 09:56 AM

The important thing is that intelligent viewers (if FAUX NEWS has any) will hear this and inquire.

Slugg

07-20-2007, 09:57 AM

and they still find a way to marginalize it

Well, after all this hype, nothing short of an hour interview would live up to expectations. Truth be told, it's those little 4 second shout outs that really does the trick anyway. Look at it this way, there are probably at least 1 million people who just heard of Ron Paul that had never heard of him before.

remaxjon

07-20-2007, 09:57 AM

spin spin spin spin

angelatc

07-20-2007, 09:57 AM

Yes, the strength of that 20 year old Libertarian mailing list is just incredible, isn't it?

Sematary

07-20-2007, 09:57 AM

Tuck

07-20-2007, 09:58 AM

Whats the email to reach them? I know of a few soldiers who would love to give their opinion of Ron Paul.

Dary

07-20-2007, 09:58 AM

Nice job at debunking.

focksux

IRO-bot

07-20-2007, 09:58 AM

Why can't newcaster just report the news? I'd rather listen to Robots. At least they wouldn't inject their own comments in

DisabledVet

07-20-2007, 09:59 AM

GAH! I'm supposed to be packing to go to South Carolina and now I'm waiting for the commercial to end so I can hear news about Ron Paul that I already know.

Moved to: You know your a Ron Paul junkie when forum

PatriotOne

07-20-2007, 09:59 AM

All in all, not bad piece. Though I could have done without the Blondie "shock" factor.

ladyjade3

07-20-2007, 09:59 AM

The political analyst suggested that he used libertarian mailing lists with lots of military on them.

He also stated RP votes against almost all spending and foreign intervention and in the same breath could not figure out why our military wouldn't want to be sent all over the world to die for other countries' wars. Hmmm... they must not know Ron Paul very well. That's it.

And then he also played down the amount - only $18,000. So keep it all in perspective.

AlexAmore

07-20-2007, 09:59 AM

Wow the techniques they used to try and diminish Ron Paul was quite interesting. You could take this segment and teach a class on propaganda with it.

Sematary

07-20-2007, 10:00 AM

Whats the email to reach them? I know of a few soldiers who would love to give their opinion of Ron Paul.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77538,00.html

dmitchell

07-20-2007, 10:01 AM

Does Barone always speak with a tremor? Or do you think the Fox goons had him under duress to spin and minimize the story?

And what is the point of reporting that military donations were just 1% of Paul's money raised? Who cares about that?

hells_unicorn

07-20-2007, 10:02 AM

Although I am glad of the coverage on Fox due to their viewer numbers, Michael Barone has to be the biggest buffoon in the world.

1. Some Libertarian Mailing List?

It really says something about politics today when people use excuses like this, knowing full well that it means that Republican and Democrat mailing lists are implied to be less effective at raising money. If this were actually true (which I am almost positive it isn't), it means that both major parties are now equally despised by the military, which means it still shows our strength.

2. These people only "Identify themselves" as military?

This implies a level of dishonesty amongst those donating, however, it would stand to reason that other campaigns (especially Obama's) would invite similar kinds of dishonesty in order to bolster their numbers, as Obama supporters tend to be just about as zealous as we so-called extremists are. Mike Barone is not using very sound logic here.

In conclusion, we got a mention on the news, and any mention will be positive. There was spin, but the hatchet job was not nearly as forceful as I expected.

Johnnybags

07-20-2007, 10:02 AM

the massive text voting, heck his campaign is not even organized yet, they just left a 358 sq ft hole in the wall and have 1 NH guy and 3 IOWA guys? Yep, all it would have taken is one call to one contributor and ask if he gave money due to a mass mailing? Why bother when you make up news, that place should be shut down. FAUX NEWS- We decide what news to make up thru our military censors!!!

angelatc

07-20-2007, 10:02 AM

I think I need a shower. My skin is crawling after that much exposure to Fox.

markpa

07-20-2007, 10:06 AM

I'm so glad I cnaceled my cable 4 years back. Best decision I ever made and I highly recommend it. You save your mind and 40 bucks a month!

JosephTheLibertarian

07-20-2007, 10:10 AM

Do you think anyone else will bring it up?

angelatc

07-20-2007, 10:11 AM

I hear ya. If I didn't have a husband who was a sports fanatic I wouldn't even own a TV. Well, maybe for games - but no antenna.

angrydragon

07-20-2007, 10:13 AM

youtube?

DeadheadForPaul

07-20-2007, 10:14 AM

I hear ya. If I didn't have a husband who was a sports fanatic I wouldn't even own a TV. Well, maybe for games - but no antenna.

South Park, Colbert Report, and college football are the only reasons I own a T.V.

Sematary

07-20-2007, 10:15 AM

South Park, Colbert Report, and college football are the only reasons I own a T.V.

Red Sox, Jon Stewart and video games. No other real use for it.

Phil M

07-20-2007, 10:16 AM

Youtube?

angrydragon

07-20-2007, 10:29 AM

Not the video, but just got uploaded by someone with a mission impossible theme.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm3WABHW02s

MsDoodahs

07-20-2007, 10:34 AM

My recent addiction is Ninja Warrior on G4.

:o

the captions are hilarious.

torchbearer

07-20-2007, 10:36 AM

Yes, the strength of that 20 year old Libertarian mailing list is just incredible, isn't it?

Thats how we raise all those millions of dollars to stomp our competition in elections. :)

Thatguyuknow

07-20-2007, 10:58 AM

.. :rolleyes: Youtube anybody?

(Prepares to get rick rolled.)

Dary

07-20-2007, 11:03 AM

uploading now

Dary

07-20-2007, 11:12 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nwZGRrqhfs

Ron Paul has the most money from military donors, but not really.

E.D. says...

Not one of the names that you hear right up at the top of the list when people are talking about the...certainly the front runners in the campaign.

--

Well I guess that all depends on who those people are and what they are listening to when they hear it.

If they are people who are listening to OM, then yeah. But if you listen to the NM, well that's all you hear.

glts

07-20-2007, 11:14 AM

If anyone hasn't seen "OUTFOXED : Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism" they should.

http://video.google.com:80/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428

Mort

07-20-2007, 11:22 AM

Fox news is probably still the most viewed cable news station. Alot of people saw this. It was helpful I think.

buffalokid777

07-20-2007, 11:32 AM

Fox news is probably still the most viewed cable news station. Alot of people saw this. It was helpful I think.

Any publicity is good publicity as long as they spell your name right.

I have a feeling most fox news viewers attention spans didn't even make it to the spin part trying to marginalize it at the end. :)

Natalie

07-20-2007, 12:05 PM

I cant believe I missed it. Thank god for youtube.

ghemminger

07-20-2007, 12:20 PM

You GUYS ROCK....the money will start flowing!!!!

"just had dinner with a couple major donors from Texas who flew up just for dinner! They promise to raise over a million dollars from friends and business associates. They were major fundraisers for George Bush in his first campaign.

So things are looking really good"

Welcome to the mainstrean PR!!!!!!!

beermotor

07-20-2007, 12:41 PM

For christ sake, lay off the meth dude. You are posting this in every damn thread? Some mod, please save us.

Swmorgan77

07-20-2007, 12:55 PM

Ugh, more "libertarian" association by the mainstream news. They are clearly making an effort to decieve people into believing that Ron Paul is a 3rd party candidate.

veteransforpaul

07-20-2007, 01:07 PM

Don't get your hopes up.. Fox news will probably say that they support "republicans" they'd never say Ron Paul.. ever. ...

but a guy can hope.

I am inclined to agree with Thatguyuknow's prediction. Since Ron Paul comes in first, they will obfuscate that fact by using a germ of truth - i.e., they will amalgamate Ron Paul with the rest of the candidates, and then report that: "Republicans take number one in fundraising amongst the military." In other words: Try to mitigate Ron Paul himself, but then using his success to promote the rest of the candidates. Right? How evil that is, but that is FOX "News."

berkeleybound

07-20-2007, 01:14 PM

Who this is commentator? Great segment, but it's slanted like crazy.

Scribbler de Stebbing

07-20-2007, 01:18 PM

My, how it pains them to give Ron Paul ANY credit. They always have to explain it away. Incorrigible military spammers.

veteransforpaul

07-20-2007, 01:36 PM

Yes. It is really an Orwellian paradigm of analysis by the MSM. They will run a poll, and then if Ron Paul wins, or does very well, the poll then becomes "insignificant." Well, why do they bother to run the polls then?

I remember the first debate poll on MSNBC. MSNBC conducted a pre-debate poll, at which time Ron Paul was near the bottom. It was the establishment candidates at the top. It was the after-the-debate poll that Ron Paul won by a wide margin. How do they explain that? Poll spammers. However, they didn't attribute the pre-debate poll results to poll spammers. I guess all of those people just disappeared after the debate.