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sgrooms
01-07-2008, 04:42 PM
Is this the FIRST time Ron Paul sent out a personal email asking for donations? I've seen other people with the campaign ask, but not Ron himself.

Just wondering....


IN CASE YOU DIDNT GET THE EMAIL:

"In Iowa, many hundreds of volunteers worked day and night for our campaign. College kids took their Christmas vacations in the snow for freedom. Thousands of people donated to make it all possible. We had many phone calls, brochures, mailings, advertising. Revolutionaries from all over the country sent handwritten letters to every voter, and despite national media attacks and censorship, we got more than 10% of the vote. We also soundly beat a certain ex-mayor who started off the first debate by attacking a pro-American foreign policy and the explanatory doctrine of "blowback," the CIA's term for foreign intervention that causes trouble for us in return. The Golden Rule applies to nations as well as to individuals.

And speaking of debates, FOX blocked my participation in its last New Hampshire debate, but I think that hurt FOX more than us. We had a terrifically successful townhall meeting at the same time, and Jay Leno invited me on the Tonight Show again to discuss it. Many members of our movement were galvanized to overcome the bias, including me!

In our Iowa campaign, since it was a caucus, we were dealing with party activists for the most part, not the people. And some of the activists were very unhappy to hear our views, trying to scream them down! Others thought that peace violates Christianity. But New Hampshire is another story. There is a state and a people tailor-made for us. Live Free! Then there are Michigan, South Carolina, and Super Tuesday and its nearly 20 primaries. Frankly, we need $23 million more to have a chance of beating the establishment candidates.

I am working hard for our ideas, as I know you are. The attacks and even smears will increase as we do better. But they will not defeat our ideas. They cannot defeat out ideas. At this moment of urgency for America, with spending, taxes, spying, inflation, and wars out of control and threatening all we love, let us rededicate ourselves to freedom, prosperity, and peace. Already, I owe you all my thanks. Join me in this great endeavor in New Hampshire and beyond. Please make your most generous donation now: https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate

Sincerely,

Ron"

shasshas
01-07-2008, 04:47 PM
i do not know hwy he needs more donations. he already has $18 million+ sitting there.

dvictr
01-07-2008, 04:48 PM
yes this is the first open solicitation... bad taste imo:(

OptionsTrader
01-07-2008, 04:48 PM
i do not know hwy he needs more donations. he already has $18 million+ sitting there.

Because they need to budget and plan for a national campaign.

OptionsTrader
01-07-2008, 04:48 PM
Yes, he has sent out personal emails before.

yongrel
01-07-2008, 04:48 PM
Two words:

Cheese Fondu

Two more important words:

National Campaign

stefans
01-07-2008, 04:51 PM
yes this is the first open solicitation... bad taste imo:(

I don't remember if it's the first but I can understand why he did it.
it was mentioned before by some campaign staff and nobody really took it seriously.

Spike
01-07-2008, 04:51 PM
No. He has done this quite a few times before, and each time there has been a spike.

Chase
01-07-2008, 04:52 PM
yes this is the first open solicitation... bad taste imo:(

Bad taste? What? He needs our support to run an effective campaign. Bad taste would have been keeping his mouth shut, not asking for the support, not getting it, then losing because he didn't have enough support!

RPatTheBeach
01-07-2008, 04:52 PM
Ron would send similar ones out often back about 6 months ago.

And every time he did, donations had a huge spike

ronpaulfollower999
01-07-2008, 04:53 PM
Its Ron now asking for donations, not the campaign. I don't see why people aren't donating to Ron Paul. You want him to be president, dont you?

Menthol Patch
01-07-2008, 04:56 PM
i do not know hwy he needs more donations. he already has $18 million+ sitting there.

No, they do not have 18 million plus sitting there. They have spent MILLIONS of dollars! They also need MILLIONS more to campaign effectively in the upcoming DOZENS of primary states!

They literally need as much money as we can donate!

Quick
01-07-2008, 04:56 PM
Every Ron Paul he talks about needing us and ends all his letters with asking to go visit the donation page.

Jesus people, pick your battles.

Quick
01-07-2008, 04:57 PM
No, they do not have 18 million plus sitting there. They have spent MILLIONS of dollars! They also need MILLIONS more to campaign effectively in the upcoming DOZENS of primary states!

They literally need as much money as we can donate!

Ron Paul, in the interview on the radio today, said they have up to $30 million dollars.

Churchill2004
01-07-2008, 04:57 PM
Ron Paul has sent out several personal e-mails. They've been a bit less frequent recently, but they're not new.

I'm not sure if I should be discouraged that, collectively, we're that scatterbrained or encouraged that we have that many new supporters that they haven't even been around long enough to have received one of these before.

EvilEngineer
01-07-2008, 04:58 PM
There have been about a dozen of these over the past year or so. This is nothing new.

paulette
01-07-2008, 04:59 PM
Bad taste? What? He needs our support to run an effective campaign. Bad taste would have been keeping his mouth shut, not asking for the support, not getting it, then losing because he didn't have enough support!

+1

Mortikhi
01-07-2008, 05:00 PM
Ron Paul, in the interview on the radio today, said they have up to $30 million dollars.
they've raised up to that much since the beginning. thats not what they have just sitting in the bank.

RonPaulVolunteer
01-07-2008, 05:01 PM
Um, do you think it would have been possible to just ask this question in the existing thread instead of creating a new one? We have a glut of threads about nothing.

SgtBulldog
01-07-2008, 05:01 PM
Ron Paul, in the interview on the radio today, said they have up to $30 million dollars.

That may be how much he's raised, but not how much cash he has on hand.

He had $5.4 mill cash on hand after the 3rd qtr. Add $19 mill and change to that and that's about $25 mill minus cash spent last quarter. No way is he at $30 mill right now.

Churchill2004
01-07-2008, 05:01 PM
Ron Paul, in the interview on the radio today, said they have up to $30 million dollars.

He's probably talking about total raised for the entire campaign, which would be in that neighborhood if I'm not mistaken.

We know exactly how much Paul has brought in. All you have to do is add together all the quarterly reports with whatever the latest widget reading is. What he's spent it on? Well, that we don't know so much. Hopefully he's spending it well. I saw an article about a major ad campaign targeting ten key super tuesday states, including CA. That's what we need to do- use this month (actually a little less) until Super Tuesday to have a real, national campaign, instead of focusing on NH and a few other early states, where it's impossible to affect a whole lot of change this late in the game.

Sey.Naci
01-07-2008, 05:08 PM
yes this is the first open solicitation... bad taste imoThen you know nothing about campaigns. It's standard for candidates to ask their supporters for donations. And as other posters here have said, each time he has sent out a fundraising email, donations start coming in.

It's the #1 rule for fundraising: ASK people to donate. Otherwise, hard as it is to believe, donating to their cause may not occur to them.

literatim
01-07-2008, 05:09 PM
i do not know hwy he needs more donations. he already has $18 million+ sitting there.

I don't know how many times I've repeated this. We have 48 more States after New Hampshire. $2.6 million in Q4 alone was spent in Iowa.

romeshomey
01-07-2008, 05:11 PM
yes this is the first open solicitation... bad taste imo:(

No it is not, I have received several emails from Ron Paul asking for donations.

I don't find them in bad taste at all, only when they come from campaign staff other than Ron Paul do I find it in bad taste. In fact, the only time I donate after getting an email from the campaign, is when the email is from Ron asking for a donation personally. Whenever Ron takes the time to sit down and write us an email, I feel it is my duty to respond to it.

Here are the other emails in which Ron has asked to donate personally. As you can tell, I am not a bandwagon Ron Paul supporter by any means.


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December 17, 2007

What a day! I am humbled and inspired, grateful and thrilled for this
vast outpouring of support.

On just one day, in honor of the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea
Party, the new American revolutionaries brought in $6.04 million, another
one-day record. The average donation was $102; we had 58,407
individual contributors, of whom an astounding 24,915 were first-time donors.
And it was an entirely voluntary, self-organized, decentralized,
independent effort on the internet. Must be the "spammers" I keep hearing
about!

The establishment is baffled and worried, and well they should be. They
keep asking me who runs our internet fundraising and controls our
volunteers. To these top-down central planners, a spontaneous order like
our movement is science-fiction. But you and I know it's real: as real as
the American people's yearning for freedom, peace, and prosperity, as
real as all the men and women who have sacrificed for our ideals, in
the past and today.

And how neat to see celebrations all across the world, with Tea Parties
from France to New Zealand. This is how we can spread the ideals of
our country, through voluntary emulation, not bombs and bribes. Of
course, there were hundreds in America.

As I dropped in on a cheering, laughing crowd of about 600 near my home
in Freeport, Texas, I noted that they call us "angry." Well, we are
the happiest, most optimistic "angry" movement ever, and the most
diverse. What unites us is a love of liberty, and a determination to fix what
is wrong with our country, from the Fed to the IRS, from warfare to
welfare. But otherwise we are a big tent.

Said the local newspaper
(http://www.thefacts.com/story.lasso?ewcd=36475b4d132fc0a1): "The
elderly sat with teens barely old enough to vote. The faces were black,
Hispanic, Asian and white. There was no fear in their voices as they spoke
boldly with each other about the way the country should be. Held close
like a deeply held secret, Paul has brought them out of the disconnect
they feel between what they know to be true and where the country has
been led."

Thanks also to the 500 or so who braved the blizzard in Boston to go to
Faneuil Hall. My son Rand told me what a great time he had with you.

A few mornings ago on LewRockwell.com, I saw a YouTube of a 14-year-old
boy that summed up our whole movement for me. This well-spoken young
man, who could have passed in knowledge for a college graduate, told how
he heard our ideas being denounced. So he decided to Google. He read
some of my speeches, and thought, these make sense. Then he studied US
foreign policy of recent years, and came to the conclusion that we are
right. So he persuaded his father to drop Rudy Giuliani and join our
movement.

All over America, all over the world, we are inspiring real change.
With the wars and the spying, the spending and the taxing, the inflation
and the credit crisis, our ideas have never been more needed. Please
help me spread them https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate in all 50 states.
Victory for liberty! That is our goal, and nothing less.

Sincerely,

Ron

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December 15, 2007


What an amazing mission you and I are on. What great ideas we uphold
-- the legacy of the most important thinkers of liberty in our
country's history, and the most important doers of liberty in America. At the
top of that list are the donors and volunteers of this campaign.

I could spend all my time thanking personally you and everyone who has
done so much for our country's future, and not scratch the surface of
what justice demands. But I want you to know how much I owe you, and
everyone dedicated to the real America. You and I know our real
country -- the America of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, of
economic, civil, and personal liberty, of strong families and communities, of
great businesses and professions, of strong peace and low taxes and
sound money-all of which are under assault by the politicians who occupy
our nation's capital.

With your help -- and I can't do anything without your help
https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/ -- I want to change all that.
Together, we can restore our constitutional republic, and oust the
mountebanks who violate the ideals of the Founders with income taxes, Federal
Reserve inflation, deficit spending, preemptive wars, torture, secret
prisons, and abolition of habeas corpus.

How thrilling too are all the great Independent efforts in this cause,
involving so many tens of thousands of patriots. Of course, since they
are Independent, the election laws to do not allow me to coordinate
with them in any way. But I will mention that this Sunday, I am really
going to enjoy my tea at a party!

We are making real progress. And goodness knows we need to. Help
https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/ me keep our revolution going and
growing. For freedom, peace, and prosperity, for the real America, all
our generosity and hard work are justified.

Sincerely,

Ron

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December 3, 2007


Want to know a secret? There were two moments I especially enjoyed at
the CNN/YouTube debate -- despite my frustration at some of the
questions, and the maldistribution of time.

First, I was pleased at John McCain's attack, which he clearly had
planned. Not because that sort of stream-of-consciousness nonsense about
Hitler and WWII -- when the neocons openly want what they call WW IV! Are
we to forget that the first war crime charged at Nuremberg was waging
aggressive war?

I mean this: mainstream politicians NEVER attack an opponent they think
is far behind. The McCain campaign, we've heard, is worried sick about
New Hampshire, and they thought a slam at me would help. Ha! Of
course,
it only strengthened our forces.

Then, after the debate, Rudy Giuliani walked up to me and said, "Oooh,
you sure have a LOT of supporters." It's only the beginning, I told
him.

Indeed, he could have told that by the crowd outside after the debate.
Mitt Romney had a few people, but no one else did. We, on the other
hand, had about 500 enthusiastic revolutionaries, plus a boat, a trolley,
and two planes towing lighted signs. As I looked out at the crowd, I
thought: the establishment has no idea of what they are facing. We have
an army of freedom, prosperity, and peace. As the LA Times political
blog noted the other day, the
British also thought they had no problem with the Americans--until
Yorktown.

But we have an astoundingly short time before the first contests. The
Iowa caucuses are on January 3, the New Hampshire primary is on January
8, and Nevada and South Carolina are both on January 19. We have only
30 days to stake our claim to the nomination, and to the new America
that restores the ideals of the founders, and leads the world through
free enterprise, a sound dollar, the rule of law, and peaceful example.
Not through
inflation and bombs.

Help me surprise the neocons and all the establishment with our
success. Help me build the foundation for the America we all want. Send your
most generous contribution: https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate. The
military-industrial complex, the biased media, the big banks, the Fed,
the waterboarders, and the IRS don't like what we're doing. But every
good American is applauding us, and daring to hope for a better future.

Please, help me give it to them, to us, to all Americans to come. Keep
this revolution growing and winning:
https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate.

Sincerely,

Ron


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November 6, 2007


Amazing! I have to admit being floored by the $4.2 million dollars you
raised yesterday for this campaign. And unlike the fatcat operations of
the opposition, the average contribution from our 36,672 donors was
$103.

I say "you raised," because this historic event was created, organized,
and run by volunteers. This is the spirit that has protected American
freedom in our past; this is the spirit that is doing so again.

Some of the mainstream media have sat up and taken notice. Others have
pooh-poohed our record online fundraising. But the day is coming--far
faster than they know--when they will not be able to ignore our freedom
revolution.

We are working hard, with you, to spread our message far and wide-in
New Hampshire, in South Carolina, in Iowa, and in every other state with
a primary. And people are listening.

As you and I know, there is hope for America-in liberty and peace, and
the prosperity they bring. There is hope for America--in a sound
dollar, the rule of law, and the Constitution. There is hope for America--in
a people's revolution that brings us all together, of whatever race and
age and background.

What momentum we have! Please help me keep it up. As you and I know,
and our opponents are only suspecting, we have Success on our minds, and
in our hearts.

Freedom! Surely it is worth all our hard work. Please help me continue
to do that work, with your continuing support
https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate

Without your help, this campaign would be dead in the water. Help us
keep steaming towards victory.

Sincerely,

Ron

------------------------------

October 17, 2007


The other day, my old sparring partner in so many Congressional
committee hearings, Alan Greenspan, was on the Fox Business Channel. After
Alan promoted his new book, the reporter asked if we really needed a
central bank. Greenspan looked stunned, and then said that was a good
question; he actually talked about fiat money vs. a gold standard. Now, the
ex-Fed chairman is not about to endorse our sound monetary policy, but
you know our Revolution is working when such a question is asked in the
mainstream media, and this powerful man gives such an answer.

You and I are reopening a whole host of questions that the
establishment thought it had closed off forever: on war, on taxes and spending, on
inflation and gold, and on the rule of law and our Constitution.

A few years ago, I asked a famous conservative columnist a question.
What did he think about the prospects for a restored Robert Taft wing of
the Republican party? He thought I was joking. As you know, I was not.

After all the aggressive wars, the assaults on our privacy and civil
liberties, the oppressive taxation, and the crazed spending and deficits,
I believe that many Republican voters are ready to return to our
roots. And the big boys feel it too. It is no coincidence that the
Republican National Committee invited me to a fundraising dinner involving only
"top-tier candidates."

Some of the opposition claims that I am not a "real Republican,"
whereas I am the only one in the race. And our campaign is registering new
Republican voters by the boatload. None of my opponents is doing anything
approaching that.

Of course, they pooh-pooh our success. "He's just registering Democrats
and Independents and people who have never voted before." Well, yes.
It's called growth. We are laying the groundwork for the primaries.

All over America, our support is wide and deep and growing, and young
people are joining like never before. After the Dearborn debate, I went
to the University of Michigan for a rally. 2,000 students turned out,
something that has happened to no other candidate this year.

The crowd cheered all our ideas, but especially our opposition to the
Federal Reserve, and our support for real money of gold and silver, as
the Constitution mandates, instead of prosperity-wrecking fiat money.
American politics hasn't seen anything like this in many decades. It is
truly revolutionary.

But time is getting short. We must do massive radio and TV advertising,
open many small offices (three in just South Carolina the other day),
staff them, pay all the bills, and turn out our vote with massive
organizational and phone-bank efforts.

As you know, the blackout is ending; our campaign is starting to get
mainstream media attention, thanks to growing donations and volunteers.
And contributions are the key to more attention, and to our being able
to do the actual work of victory. Good news: our recent green-eyeshade
analysis of all the candidates' net finances, which got so much press
attention, shows our campaign as one of only three in the top-tier.

But we must keep moving up, and the Iowa caucuses are now on January
3rd. The New Hampshire primary may be in early December!

As always, everything depends on you. Please, make the most generous
donation you can https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/ as soon as you can.
I need your help so badly.

The other day, an 8-year-old boy handed me a small white envelope. It
contained the $4.00 he had saved from his allowance, as a donation to
our campaign. I can't tell you how seriously I take my responsibility to
work hard, and spend frugally and effectively, to be worthy of his
support, and yours.

Please help me keep working, even harder and more effectively, for all
we believe in. Without you, I'd have to pack it in. Donate now
https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/ . We have more than an election
to win. We have a country to save.

Ron Paul

-----------------------------

September 27, 2007


Frankly, I'm floored. And very, very grateful. Our $500,000 online
fundraising goal for the end of the quarter was reached so fast it took my
breath away. But we can't stop now. So I am raising the bar to $1
million by midnight, September 30th. I am so grateful for all you have done.
Would you help me with this?

Whenever I face a hit piece on tv, or a smear in a newspaper column, I
remember my secret weapon: you. In establishment politics, people make
campaign contributions because they want something: a contract, a
subsidy, a special-interest deal. But the thousands of people who contribute
to this campaign want no favors from big government -- which must come
at the expense of their fellow citizens, and sometimes our soldiers'
lives. They want only what is their God-given, natural, and
constitutional right: their freedom.

What a difference from the other campaigns. What a refreshing change
from politics as usual. What a sign of the reborn American freedom that
can be ours, and our children's, and our grandchildren's.

Aggressive wars, income taxes, national IDs, domestic spying, torture
regimes, secret prisons, Federal Reserve manipulation -- we don't have
to take it any more.

And the next step to not taking it is that $1 million goal. Please give
www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/ as much as you can, before midnight on
Sunday, September 30th.

There are two reasons: 1) We need the money. As we move into the Iowa
caucuses and the New Hampshire primary, then South Carolina, California,
Texas, and all the rest, we need your support. We can't duplicate the
spending of the big boys, and we don't have to, thanks to the internet
and our magnificent army of volunteers.

But we need constant website improvements, phone banks, voter
registration and get out the vote efforts, mailings, travel, printings, many
small offices, targeted TV and radio ads, legal and accounting help, and
101 other things. And without donors like you, we can't do a darn thing.


2) I want to make the mainstream media sit up and take notice. They did
when we beat John McCain for cash-on-hand in the last quarter. This
quarter, we can really shock them -- if you help. Our total can show the
sort of enthusiasm, organization, and grassroots support that will
chill every big-government backer, and warm the heart of every lover of
freedom -- and open the eyes of the media.

Please, help me win a victory for liberty with your most generous gift.
You and I are engaged in an historic enterprise. It is growing in
power and influence by the day and by the hour. But it will stutter to a
stop without people like you. I need your help. Our cause needs your
help. We can make $1 million. We can win this thing. Please help me do it.
See our progress and donate today: www.ronpaul2008.com .

Sincerely,

Ron

Kilrain
01-07-2008, 05:19 PM
FYI, in case you forgot: He's not doing this to promote himself. He's doing this because he's the only one who puts duty to his country (and the world) above himself. He's not trying to "get famous" or "get power". He truly wants YOU to take the power back!

romeshomey
01-07-2008, 05:29 PM
If Ron cared about money himself he would take the Congressional pension like all of the other rat bastards on Capitol Hill. Fact is, Ron is running for America, his children, and his grandkids. There is nothing in this for him other than lack of a good nights sleep.

sgrooms
01-07-2008, 05:42 PM
Um, do you think it would have been possible to just ask this question in the existing thread instead of creating a new one? We have a glut of threads about nothing.

it was actually IMpossible, hence the new thread.

sgrooms
01-07-2008, 05:45 PM
I am not a bandwagon Ron Paul supporter by any means.



you make it sound negative that people are new to the campaign? dont we WANT people to come to the campaign?

romeshomey
01-07-2008, 05:55 PM
you make it sound negative that people are new to the campaign? dont we WANT people to come to the campaign?

Don't put words in my mouth. Bandwagon is bandwagon, it has its meaning. Nowhere did I say I didn't want others to join the campaign, but at this point its a majority of bandwagon supporters who are converting from supporting other candidates.

atilla
01-07-2008, 05:57 PM
i do not know hwy he needs more donations. he already has $18 million+ sitting there.

california and new york, that's about $40 million in needs right there