Frank Luntz getting own3d

[smartguy911]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HJaxDt0EbY :D

I am looking forward to the video that the guy recorded and his report.

[WillInMiami]

Fantastic. I love the way Frank tries to take the "high road" when someone yells FU FRANK. He tries to act like the innocent bearer of truth and suggest that the Ron Paul supporters are mean, irresponsible peopl. What a fucking prick!

[Matthew Zak]

"You guys are mean..."

[free.alive]

This would be positive for us without the couple idiots there. If you can't be respectful and maintain our image in a positive light, especially when you know the shit will end up on YouTube, then just keep your mouth shut.

Grow up and grow a pair. You look even worse acting like a bully when your in a crowd.

Otherwise, this was great. And you have to had it to the guy for talking to you all, even if he was lying to your face.

Just, please, keep in mind how Dr. Paul would handle these situations when you approach the enemy.

[RUBICON]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HJaxDt0EbY :D

I am looking forward to the video that the guy recorded and his report.

FU Frank looked a little shaken...

[jason43]

I can't stand that guy (or watch youtube at work)... all I think of is "did any of you pre-selected tools think that Ron Paul won that debate... didn't think so..."

errrrrrr

[RP-Republican]

Would have been better if that one guy didn't yell FU I don't think that helps.

[Eponym_mi]

While I have no love for Frank's work, I believe some of the supporters in this video do more harm than good for RP. Frank was brave enough to face his critics, and he responded without rancor. We should be trying to bring the debate to a higher level, not down to the gutter.

[jason43]

Got the same actors story up on DailyKOS (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/7/73440/84026/168/432067)

Hopefully some of our anti-Fox allies on the left will get this in the news somewhere.

[Chadd Murray]

The "F U FRANK" shit is retarded and vastly exaggerates the argument presented on Bullshit... The polls were RIGHT in Iowa all you morons boasting a victory or 20-30% were completely WRONG, if you were WRONG get to grip with reality and accept it, don't continue to be WRONG. The way some people were acting to this guy was pathetic and will win you NO votes - No troll here.

[sajorojas]

Need more reason not to feel sympathy for the Lutz-meister?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrpES1Lk7X4

Another smoking gun

[nosebruise]

Eff You Frank.

[Chadd Murray]

Need more reason not to feel sympathy for the Lutz-meister?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrpES1Lk7X4

Another smoking gun
what exactly is your problem?

[Wyurm]

The "F U FRANK" shit is retarded and vastly exaggerates the argument presented on Bullshit... The polls were RIGHT in Iowa all you morons boasting a victory or 20-30% were completely WRONG, if you were WRONG get to grip with reality and accept it, don't continue to be WRONG. The way some people were acting to this guy was pathetic and will win you NO votes - No troll here.

I shall have to remember to respond to your post on Tuesday.

Side note, realism is one thing but all this negativity is not a good idea either. So perhaps it would be a good idea to stop, eh?

[brandon]

[edited out violent ideas]

I wouldn't have been so nice

[sajorojas]

what exactly is your problem?

What do you mean?

[Kingfisher]

While I have no love for Frank's work, I believe some of the supporters in this video do more harm than good for RP. Frank was brave enough to face his critics, and he responded without rancor. We should be trying to bring the debate to a higher level, not down to the gutter.

Right. More ammo for the media to report:............... " R.P. supporters are a bunch of retarded violent low class, rabble"

[itshappening]

Luntz knows exactly what he's doing

he hardly ever mentions Ron Paul in his segments, he could at least mention his name more or be more courteous, that is all we want, fair and objective, his segments are anything but

he deserves all the profanities, complaints and derision

[Chadd Murray]

I shall have to remember to respond to your post on Tuesday.

Side note, realism is one thing but all this negativity is not a good idea either. So perhaps it would be a good idea to stop, eh?
What's your prediction? I may be willing to wager a donation to Paul, a chip-in or what not.

[wohoo]

Frank did look a little shaken up and I think RP supporters had him a bit too surrounded. He tried to hide it with fake smiles but I think he was geniuenly scared. Shit like that has got to stop. A clear exit for whoever the supporters are talking to should always be provided.

[LivingFree]

"F You Frank!"

Love it!

[hellah10]

"The republican party will not vote for someone that wants to get out of Iraq"

well at least he's admitting that its rigged

[mconder]

"The republican party will not vote for someone that wants to get out of Iraq"

well at least he's admitting that its rigged

This is exactly how it's done! You say something like this on every news channel 24/7 and I don't care if RP has 100 million dollars, he is not going to win.

[Rangeley]

While I have no love for Frank's work, I believe some of the supporters in this video do more harm than good for RP. Frank was brave enough to face his critics, and he responded without rancor. We should be trying to bring the debate to a higher level, not down to the gutter.
Exactly, personally the video made me feel more sympathetic towards him then with the supporters, who often came off as insulting. He was willing to meet with them, they should have confronted him with the issues and kept it clean. I didnt hear a single person mention that Paul was polling better then Thompson, or that the debate was magically moved to a studio.

[Ninja Homer]

One of the biggest things I see from that video is Frank admitting that he doesn't like Ron Paul. A person with a lot of power to influence voters admitted to being biased.

[Edward]

One of the biggest things I see from that video is Frank admitting that he doesn't like Ron Paul. A person with a lot of power to influence voters admitted to being biased.It is possible to be biased and report objectively. With that said, I don't think Frank reports objectively.

[EvilEngineer]

Out numbered at least 10 to 1, surrounded, no cops around... sigh. He is right that he will continue to be hired by the media. shame.

[acroso]

Rasmussen is a evangelical Christian who runs a border line cult village and he has been putting out fake polls on Paul.

He went from 14% to 11% to now 3% today in the last three days so that FAUX News can say he's bombing......

look into it...Libertarians are 5% in NH...there is no way you lose all your support in 48 hours.

[Cleaner44]

The "F U FRANK" shit is retarded and vastly exaggerates the argument presented on Bullshit... The polls were RIGHT in Iowa all you morons boasting a victory or 20-30% were completely WRONG, if you were WRONG get to grip with reality and accept it, don't continue to be WRONG. The way some people were acting to this guy was pathetic and will win you NO votes - No troll here.

Fuck you Chadd.

[Dave Pedersen]

Mobs chasing down and cornering individuals guilty of wrecking this country will only become more common and eventually there will be bloodshed. Those responsible for misleading the public should either change their ways or move out of the country. Mob rule will grow and become more violent. The only thing which will stop this is a change in the media's criminal conduct. They have served as an organ of a silent tyrannical coup. Our country has been taken over. If elections don't work any more what will? The media should be afraid. They bring this on themselves. Their unconscionable actions and methods threaten our republic more than any terrorist ever could hope to accomplish. The people are waking up and demand and deserve equity in our election process. Without peaceful recourse violent recourse will become inevitable.

[Edward]

Rasmussen is a evangelical Christian who runs a border line cult village and he has been putting out fake polls on Paul.You might want to direct that comment to Don Rasmussen who works with the Paul campaign and sometimes posts here. I think he might disagree with you...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=329768&postcount=56

[SeanEdwards]

Mobs chasing down and cornering individuals guilty of wrecking this country will only become more common and eventually there will be bloodshed. Those responsible for misleading the public should either change their ways or move out of the country. Mob rule will grow and become more violent. The only thing which will stop this is a change in the media's criminal conduct. They have served as an organ of a silent tyrannical coup. Our country has been taken over. If elections don't work any more what will? The media should be afraid. They bring this on themselves. Their unconscionable actions and methods threaten our republic more than any terrorist ever could hope to accomplish. The people are waking up and demand and deserve equity in our election process. Without peaceful recourse violent recourse will become inevitable.

QFT

[Recovering Socialist]

Frank Luntz being pursued for questioning by Ron Paul supporters is what he deserves. If Frank doesn't like it, he should try to improve his "karma" by not f***ing with our democracy.

[OrbitalGun]

Luntz is a soulless shill for the neocon Rupert clan.

FU Frank

[tbarnett17]

This is probably exactly what the media wants to use against us to smear Paul. They will label us as rude, mean, and crazy! Guys, this is a form of VERBAL ABUSE!!! Don't be shocked if the media uses this against us! -Tyler

[sajorojas]

This is probably exactly what the media wants to use against us to smear Paul. They will label us as rude, mean, and crazy! Guys, this is a form of VERBAL ABUSE!!! Don't be shocked if the media uses this against us! -Tyler

who gives a shit anymore? no one. if they do, I can only see it helping our cause. People will want to know what all the anger is about. When they finally see through all the bullshit, that will be good for everyone.

[rfbz]

It looked to me like a few RP supporters and Lunts were trying to have a civilized discussion, and I was interested to hear that exchange - but the yelling around by others kept interrupting and it didn't come off well at all.

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

You guys should not be so rude to someone who actually stops to talk. Be reasonable and make reasonable points.

I applaud the video chasing down Hannity, but when someone stops to talk to you, you cannot be total dicks.

[Richard in Austin]

Frank would look much better in a new coat of tar and feathers.

[mello]

I can't stand that guy (or watch youtube at work)... all I think of is "did any of you pre-selected tools think that Ron Paul won that debate... didn't think so..."

errrrrrr

Try removing the www. before the word youtube. It seems to get around certain corporate blocking software. Leave the http:// though.

[DrNoZone]

www.wwrpd.org

[JMO]

As much as I dislike Frank he pretty much said it as it is. The republican party is looking like it won't elect a candidate that won't support the war, and that is why we will see a democratic president in 2009.

[CurtisLow]

As much as I dislike Frank he pretty much said it as it is. The republican party is looking like it won't elect a candidate that won't support the war, and that is why we will see a democratic president in 2009.


The republican party is looking like it won't elect a candidate that won't support the unlawful war.

[Son of Freedom]

www.wwrpd.org
Excellent, everyone should read this.

[atthegates]

Wow we're good...we confronted both the frauds Hannity and Luntz on the same day

[grfgerger]

Exactly, personally the video made me feel more sympathetic towards him then with the supporters, who often came off as insulting. He was willing to meet with them, they should have confronted him with the issues and kept it clean. I didnt hear a single person mention that Paul was polling better then Thompson, or that the debate was magically moved to a studio.

I agree. As funny as it was to hear some guy yell "fuck you frank", I'd be much more open to a legitimate discussion with frank than those supporters. To his credit he actually came out and defended his point of view to an angry crowd of people.

[LBT]

These are lying warmongers who only pretend to be civil.

Sometimes being civil to them actually reinforces the idea that they themselves are civil.

Perhaps what they need is some of the medicine they've been dishing out to the millions in Iraq and Afghanistan that have died or are suffering.

They have loads coming in bad karma and I wont be surprised if we see some beatings of these warmongers who have hijacked and manipulated the country, not to mention much of the world. They ought to be scared and hope like hell that this revolution remains civil and academic in nature.

Remember their little revolution kills many people. They would be happy to point guns at us if they could get away with it.

[ST0PandL00K]

oh but how good would it feel to just lump a great big FUCK YOU FRANK right into his neocon shill face

[Magicman]

You guys are going to eat your words who keep saying we were being not civilized.

This is not the full version there is a much better video coming out. You'll see how much of a scum Luntz is. This guy is a pathological liar and the full version he gets caught in his own lies. He then rechanges his strategy to continue to manipulate you.

A couple of guys swearing (which the rest of the group told the guy to shut up) are very minimal to a guy that is blatantly obstructing the electoral process. He is part of the problem it's amazing how some people here are so swayed their opinion over something as irrelevant as one guy swearing. Get with the program!

Do you not see how the 'you guys are mean was a tactic being used?' Do you think he honestly has any emotions at all or cared about us being mean? No, he is being a true deviant.

This guy is pure elitist he thinks people like on this board are worms.

He is VERY good at manipulation. Why do you think he got this job? Its very proven by how some people are sympathetic on this board towards him. He is a pathological liar and came outside and knows full well of the situation and tries to make you feel 'guilt'.

It's a strategy that a lot of people use in arguments and he is very good at making you feel wrong while at the same time telling you what to think.

Congratulations, people on this board have just fell for his dirty tricks. It's no wonder he is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations.

The man has NO soul and plays on your emotions because he knows how to take that from you.