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kushaze
01-07-2008, 04:39 AM
Major Leading U.S. Presidential Candidate to be "Outed" prior to NH Hampshire Primary

One of this year's leading candidates will be "Swift-Boated" in a new book to be announced next Monday, January 7th at 1:30 p.m. in the Murrow Room at the National Press Club in Washington.

One candidate is about to be challenged – with hard and cold facts, presented cogently by an author and former political activist and decorated military veteran who shares this candidate's party affiliation – and who has known the candidate personally since their college days.

This book is supported by 10 pages of meticulously-researched end-notes supporting every factual assertion about the candidate's failure to shoot straight with the American people, and this breach-of-faith's implications for the Presidency.

If you're serious about covering the 2008 Presidential campaign, you won't want to miss this announcement – and you will want to meet the author.

To RSVP for this event, a briefing or guest appearance, please visit:

http://www.zoomerang.com/...

Immediately after the press announcement, the author will be available for interviews or you may contact me at dtoor@attentiongroup.com or at 770-777-9489.

Daryl Toor
CEO/Chief Awareness Officer
Attention Group
for Revelation Press

drexhex
01-07-2008, 04:41 AM
:eek::confused:

Maybe Huckleberry? Probably Clinton, though...

kushaze
01-07-2008, 04:42 AM
I found this website about McCain:

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

but I don't know who it is.

Jobarra
01-07-2008, 04:42 AM
I imagine this is the vet that spoke at Dr. Paul's Iowa vet rally. He pretty much pointed to McCain turning his back on/working against the POW/MIA issue. If only this would get put out by the media.

Corydoras
01-07-2008, 04:43 AM
Where'd this come from?

smartguy911
01-07-2008, 04:44 AM
huckabee?

kushaze
01-07-2008, 04:44 AM
Where'd this come from?

The publisher had a press release.

Give me liberty
01-07-2008, 04:45 AM
McCain?

Airborn
01-07-2008, 04:47 AM
I imagine this is the vet that spoke at Dr. Paul's Iowa vet rally. He pretty much pointed to McCain turning his back on/working against the POW/MIA issue. If only this would get put out by the media.

He also did say he had a book coming out.

kushaze
01-07-2008, 04:50 AM
I also found this on Dailypaul:

Swift Boat Veterans
In August 2004, after other journalists had reported on it, Novak admitted that his son, Alex Novak, is the Director of Marketing for the Swift Boat Veterans' publisher, Regnery Publishing. At the time he said that he didn't "think it relevant." Two months later Salon.com reported that Regnery's owner is also the publisher of Novak's own US$297 (annual rate) newsletter and that Novak is on the board of a foundation whose chief holdings are the stock of Regnery's parent company.

which came from wikipedia here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Novak

shagywashere
01-07-2008, 04:51 AM
Wow, this will be interesting if it's true.

free.alive
01-07-2008, 04:52 AM
McCain! McCain! McCain! McCain! McCain?

szczebrzeszyn
01-07-2008, 04:52 AM
or maybe not... let's wait

kushaze
01-07-2008, 04:53 AM
Here is another article, hints to McCain:

http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/01/02/mccain-to-be-blindsided-in-new-hampshire-on-monday/

Dave Pedersen
01-07-2008, 04:53 AM
Probably someone who has not run for president before. Normally I would suspect McCain but why wait until now? Maybe Romney's money is behind this.. who knows..

Jobarra
01-07-2008, 04:56 AM
Yeah, kind of weird to hit McCain now, but maybe a brilliant move? Give people only enough time to realize the person they are are supporting and maybe just stay home on Tuesday or go for the other candidate that is the 'straight talker'?

I would be surprised if it wasn't McCain after they slipped "failure to shoot straight with the American people" in there.

FreedomProsperityPeace
01-07-2008, 04:58 AM
I hope it is McCain.

Joe3113
01-07-2008, 05:03 AM
Could it be video footage of Huckabee dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight?

DanielDeibler
01-07-2008, 05:04 AM
Could it be video footage of Huckabee dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight?

Isn't that already on YouTube?

Joe3113
01-07-2008, 05:07 AM
Isn't that already on YouTube?

Not sure. Try searching "Huckabee does waltz with David Rockefeller".

Corydoras
01-07-2008, 05:09 AM
The publisher had a press release.

I couldn't find a website for "Revelation Press." Who are these people?

rwl4
01-07-2008, 05:14 AM
Is it possibly Larry Flynt of Hustler wanting to out a senator running for president?

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=3983

Xonox
01-07-2008, 05:18 AM
This is kind of vague... it would seem to point to McCain, but in the field we have it could literaly be anyone except Ron Paul.

1town
01-07-2008, 05:24 AM
It's Paul! We're dooomed

rwl4
01-07-2008, 05:25 AM
Well, if it is Flynt who's outing the person, and it's a republican senator he wants to out, then it'll be either Thompson or McCain. If I remember correctly, he doesn't claim it will be a FORMER senator... He says a senator... If that's the case, it has to be McCain.

rwl4
01-07-2008, 05:26 AM
Heh...

Fox News: "Today it was reported that Ron Paul is a LIBERTARIAN. Yes, it has been confirmed. A LIBERTARIAN before he became a Republican. It's probably over with for him now."

Xonox
01-07-2008, 05:29 AM
Heh...

Fox News: "Today it was reported that Ron Paul is a LIBERTARIAN. Yes, it has been confirmed. A LIBERTARIAN before he became a Republican. It's probably over with for him now."

lol did they actualy say that?
That reminds me, I've seen a lot of articles reffering to Ron Paul as a "libertarian candidate" which seems odd because I thought he was a member of the Republican party.

tsetsefly
01-07-2008, 05:29 AM
imo its mccain....

Give me liberty
01-07-2008, 05:34 AM
It's Paul! We're dooomed

Its a senator and ron paul is not a senator cool down.

davidhperry
01-07-2008, 05:35 AM
imo its mccain....

If it is McCain, this could be the thing that Drudge alluded to a week or so ago.

colecrowe
01-07-2008, 05:41 AM
Its a senator and ron paul is not a senator cool down.

Where has anyone heard that it was a senator. Read the post again. It does not say that. End of story.

If you are referring to the Larry Flynt thing--that was THREE SEPARATE PEOPLE:

* a Republican presidential candidate
* a well-known Republican senator (a closeted gay)
* another "prominent conservative official" (this is described in the article as involving "hooker parties and no-tell-motel liaisons")

rwl4
01-07-2008, 05:43 AM
lol did they actualy say that?
That reminds me, I've seen a lot of articles reffering to Ron Paul as a "libertarian candidate" which seems odd because I thought he was a member of the Republican party.

No... I said it in jest, but I do think they do keep throwing out the name libertarian to discredit him.

My wife recently updated her Facebook profile to say her political views were libertarian, and within 24 hours, one of her friends sends her a message saying "libertarian? say what?"

I know before I learned about Ron Paul I thought libertarians were all anti-everything whackos. Of course I now consider myself a libertarian, but only after learning all the issues and thinking them through, and realizing that if you intend to follow the constitution, you are implicitly a libertarian.

kushaze
01-07-2008, 06:08 AM
This is kind of vague... it would seem to point to McCain, but in the field we have it could literaly be anyone except Ron Paul.

I think it might have to do with this organization:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_Boat_Veterans

WilliamC
01-07-2008, 06:21 AM
Isn't great to support a candidate that doesn't have to worry about scandels like this :)

celticsman7
01-07-2008, 06:23 AM
Does this help us or hurt us if McCain is outed? Would they go over to Romney, not go to the polls, or would independents come to us instead?

tsetsefly
01-07-2008, 06:26 AM
Isn't great to support a candidate that doesn't have to worry about scandels like this :)

yeah,lol...

BigMatt419
01-07-2008, 06:30 AM
50 bucks its McCain.

JordanL
01-07-2008, 06:37 AM
Does this help us or hurt us if McCain is outed? Would they go over to Romney, not go to the polls, or would independents come to us instead?

Even if they go somewhere else, I can't see this hurting us if it's McCain, because McCain will be pretty much done unless he wins NH, and right now we're polling third anyway. If Paul finished in front of McCain in NH... voters everywhere will take him very seriously. It's how Reagan won.

Shavenyak
01-07-2008, 06:37 AM
Does this help us or hurt us if McCain is outed? Would they go over to Romney, not go to the polls, or would independents come to us instead?

Depends on what they say. I'm hoping it's big enough to give Paul the rest of McCain's independent votes.

SteveMartin
01-07-2008, 06:40 AM
McCain is a close (very close) second to Hillary as the dirtiest candidate running for President. I may not like Mitt, but he's squeaky clean compared to this guy.

There are plenty of people who say he collaborated with the enemy, and was jet-setting around Europe during the last 2 of the 6 years he was supposedly being held and "tortured." His arm may have been injured in the jump.

lasenorita
01-07-2008, 06:43 AM
Leading candidate? Right before the NH primary? Hmm...

I've been reading some blogs and this one (http://www.anonymz.com/?http://amerpundit.com/2008/01/03/impending-scandal-involving-romney/) implies that the Huckabee campaign knows something. Apparently, there's also a different scandal involving Mitt Romney (http://www.anonymz.com/?http://poligazette.com/2008/01/03/joe-carter-on-campaigns/).* I guess we'll know soon enough.

ETA: *Never mind. It's apparently only a rumor (http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/archives/004161.html). But one blog does mention something about anti-Mormon push polls in IA (http://www.anonymz.com/?http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/03/hmmm-hucks-former-research-director-hints-at-romney-scandal-set-to-break-soon/).

webber53
01-07-2008, 06:44 AM
Bump!

Joe3113
01-07-2008, 06:48 AM
I hope it's Obama!!!

kushaze
01-07-2008, 06:50 AM
Leading candidate? Right before the NH primary? Hmm...

I've been reading some blogs and this one (http://www.anonymz.com/?http://amerpundit.com/2008/01/03/impending-scandal-involving-romney/) implies that the Huckabee campaign knows something. Apparently, there's also a different scandal involving Mitt Romney (http://www.anonymz.com/?http://poligazette.com/2008/01/03/joe-carter-on-campaigns/). I guess we'll know soon enough.

Either way we win.

Joe3113
01-07-2008, 06:52 AM
Either way we win.

Not if it's Rudy. We have no hope of getting his supporters.

kushaze
01-07-2008, 06:56 AM
Not if it's Rudy. We have no hope of getting his supporters.

I don't think its Giuliani though. If it involves a GOP candidate, speculation says its probably McCain but there is also speculation that it could be Romeny or that there is another scandal involving Romney.

BeFranklin
01-07-2008, 06:59 AM
Giuliani has already been out-ed. Everyone's seen him in drag...!

WilliamC
01-07-2008, 07:03 AM
Ron Paul, integrity, honesty, and scandal free after 30 years in Washington DC.

And counting.

expatinireland
01-07-2008, 07:08 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS214163+04-Jan-2008+PRN20080104


Major Candidate to Be 'Swift Boated' by New Book to Be Released by Revelation Press
Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:24pm EST


Major Candidate to Be 'Swift Boated' by New Book to Be Released by Revelation
Press

WASHINGTON, Jan. 7 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ At 1:30 p.m. on Monday, January 7, 2008, a major Presidential candidate is going to be "Swift Boated" -- with
facts -- at the National Press Club.

Eight years ago, George W. Bush's Presidential campaign was nearly torpedoed
by the last-minute "October Surprise" release of factual truth about a
decades-old DUI.

Four years ago, Bush's campaign was almost derailed again, by the release of
authentic-looking forged documents relating to his National Guard service. Had
the documents proved true, Kerry might have become President.

Four years ago, "Swift Boating" entered the Presidential campaign lexicon when
Kerry's candidacy was torpedoed by accusations from men who'd served with him
in Vietnam. Kerry was never able to recover, even when the veracity of these
accusations became subject to question.

In 2004, "Swift Boating" and "Rather-Gate" were actions based on "iffy"
information. However, in 2008, this "Swift Boating" experience is based on
rock-solid, well-sourced and absolutely accurate information.

This "Swift Boating" will occur with the release of a new book to be announced
nextMonday, January 7th at 1:30 p.m. at the National Press Club in Washington.

Built around irrefutable hard and cold facts -- these allegations come from a
former TV business news editor, a twice-decorated military veteran who shares
this candidate's party affiliation -- and who has known the candidate
personally since their college days.

This book literally gives "chapter and verse" about this candidate's
less-than-candid candor with the American people.

Unlike "Rather-Gate" and the original "Swift Boat" book, this former TV
journalist's book is no fabrication -- it is supported by 10 pages of
meticulously-researched end-notes citing original source material supporting
every factual assertion about the candidate's failure to shoot straight with
the American people, and this breach-of-faith's implications for the
Presidency.

Obviously, we can't tell you more at this point -- not without inviting
in-advance (and ill-informed) criticism -- but if you're serious about
covering the 2008 Presidential campaign, you won't want to miss this
announcement -- and you will want to meet the author.

Immediately after the press announcement, the author will be available in
Washington for interviews for radio, TV/Cable, print and Internet audiences --
and later in the week he'll be in New York City, ready to answer questions and
defend his allegations -- with facts.


SOURCE Revelation Press

Daryl Toor, +1-770-777-9489, dtoor@attentiongroup.com, for Revelation Press

© Reuters 2008 All rights reserved

kushaze
01-07-2008, 07:11 AM
Thanks.

amy31416
01-07-2008, 07:12 AM
Ron Paul, integrity, honesty, and scandal free after 30 years in Washington DC.

And counting.

That's why he's so special. What did Jon Stewart say about him? "You appear to have consistent, princlipled integrity, Americans don't usually go for that. You seem to practice what you preach, you seem to preach it consistently. Even though people might disagree with the message, they can’t argue that you’re a man of consistent principles."

Jon nailed it right there. Amazing that someone who does runs a news show known to be a spoof is much more well-informed than the actual media.

prlgrl
01-07-2008, 07:14 AM
the candidate's failure to shoot straight with the American people, and this breach-of-faith's implications for the Presidency.


Has to be McCain and the not so shoot straight talk express...

JAlli41
01-07-2008, 07:17 AM
I may not like Mitt, but he's squeaky clean compared to this guy.

seriously... the man did nothing for this state except give us a faulty health care plan with a HUGE spending gap... he keeps talking like hes the savior of Massachusetts, he stunk the joint up

ecliptic
01-07-2008, 07:21 AM
This could very well be a smear against our guy. Of course the 10 pages of documentation would have to be a pack of gross distortions and lies, but that's certainly well within the realm of possibility. Not trying to be a downer just saying that it's not only possible but it's pretty much the only way they will stop Ron Paul from overtaking the entire field, including Democrats!

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/743/writewhatyouretoldkn6.jpg (http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/PhotoAlbum1.html)

tgannaway89
01-07-2008, 07:26 AM
Whomever it is do you think the media will even pay attention?

colecrowe
01-07-2008, 07:35 AM
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/03/hmmm-hucks-former-research-director-hints-at-romney-scandal-set-to-break-soon/

kushaze
01-07-2008, 07:37 AM
Whomever it is do you think the media will even pay attention?

I hope the media rolls with it big time and ends the political career of whomever the scandal is about. You know its a big time candidate and all the big time candidates are scumbags in my opinion, except Dr. Paul.

Thomas Paine
01-07-2008, 07:41 AM
If anyone is going to be outed, it will probably be McCain. He has a real mean streak and has made a lot of enemies over the years when he didn't have to. McCain is a first class prick.

paulette
01-07-2008, 07:43 AM
It's gonna be a very interesting day.

ReallyNow
01-07-2008, 07:44 AM
We're gonna miss you in the rest of the primaries, John.

prlgrl
01-07-2008, 07:57 AM
We're gonna miss you in the rest of the primaries, John.

:D Good one!

constituent
01-07-2008, 08:15 AM
i hate this kind of crap.

only a distraction... the issues are what we win on, not this kind of garbage.

colecrowe
01-07-2008, 08:21 AM
We're gonna miss you in the rest of the primaries, John.

Classic

colecrowe
01-07-2008, 08:23 AM
i hate this kind of crap.

only a distraction... the issues are what we win on, not this kind of garbage.

What are "issues"? We are supposed to vote for the guy who has the best chance of winning (I swear: 20% of people I talk to while canvassing absolutely believe that).

Falseflagop
01-07-2008, 08:25 AM
McCain is my bet, He got special treatment and I believe his dad was the navy man that covered up or was part of teh cover up of the USS LIBERTY incident imho

pacelli
01-07-2008, 08:27 AM
So is this going to be the only time anybody would want to tune in to C-SPAN's "Book TV", or will this not even be broadcast?

LivingFree
01-07-2008, 08:28 AM
Lets hope it's Clinton

Redcard
01-07-2008, 08:31 AM
Only in the republican party can you get tortured in vietnam for five and a half years, subjected to torture, and then, still, treated like YOU'RE the criminal.

Ahh.. politics.

govtpigII
01-07-2008, 08:36 AM
i hate this kind of crap.

only a distraction... the issues are what we win on, not this kind of garbage.

True but if we know something ahead of time it may give us an advantage at some point....plus it keeps our heads from spinning to much...a "little" distraction isn't bad, a lot is.

I do see your point.

Drknows
01-07-2008, 08:41 AM
Ohh i cant wait!!! this is like waiting for Santa to come on Christmas eve or moments before you walk into your first strip club.

Moxxar
01-07-2008, 08:43 AM
Lets hope it's Clinton

Let's not. Mccain or Obama would be awesome. They are dr. Paul's main opponents right now.

kushaze
01-07-2008, 08:44 AM
Let's not. Mccain or Obama would be awesome. They are dr. Paul's main opponents right now.

Yeah, Clinton is definitely the most beatable.

JordanL
01-07-2008, 08:44 AM
Only in the republican party can you get tortured in vietnam for five and a half years, subjected to torture, and then, still, treated like YOU'RE the criminal.

Ahh.. politics.

Depends on the decade. ;)

RonPaulVolunteer
01-07-2008, 08:45 AM
Let hope it is NOT Clinton. Gosh there are some ignorant people around these forums. I don't CARE how much you HATE Clinton, she HAS to win the nomination or we will NOT win the presidency. Ron Paul will not win against Obama. Disagree all you like, you're just wrong.

And if you don't understand why, you have not been watching him...

.

fuzzybekool
01-07-2008, 08:47 AM
Is this the Hustler magazine Larry Flynt outing ?

orion846
01-07-2008, 08:50 AM
Only in the republican party can you get tortured in vietnam for five and a half years, subjected to torture, and then, still, treated like YOU'RE the criminal.

Ahh.. politics.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/search.php?searchid=1130524

troll if i ever saw one!

AdamT
01-07-2008, 08:51 AM
I would love to see McCain go down in flames. He f'in deserves it.

kushaze
01-07-2008, 08:51 AM
Is this the Hustler magazine Larry Flynt outing ?

No. Something completely different.

Redcard
01-07-2008, 08:52 AM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/search.php?searchid=1130524

troll if i ever saw one!

Nah,

Cynical realist. Why do you think I'm any less devoted to Ron Paul because I don't toe the party line 100% on him?

Point of Ron Paul's message is to NOT be the typical political fanboy, but to think for oneself, and to get the freedom to do so.

That's why I'm for Paul.

BeFranklin
01-07-2008, 08:52 AM
Only in the republican party can you get tortured in vietnam for five and a half years, subjected to torture, and then, still, treated like YOU'RE the criminal.

Ahh.. politics.

McCaine, is that you?

kushaze
01-07-2008, 08:53 AM
McCaine, is that you?

Thats the funniest thing I heard all day, and I am not sure why I am laughing so hard.

Redcard
01-07-2008, 08:54 AM
McCaine, is that you?

No. But look at John Kerry, look at John McCaine back in the last election when they called him a "failure of a fighter pilot" and blamed HIM for the 5 years of torture.. or the push poll in SC where they asked if people would be "More or less likely to vote for John McCain knowing he fathered a black baby?"

It's dirty pool, and it'll be played as such by the McCain camp.

kushaze
01-07-2008, 08:58 AM
No. But look at John Kerry, look at John McCaine back in the last election when they called him a "failure of a fighter pilot" and blamed HIM for the 5 years of torture.. or the push poll in SC where they asked if people would be "More or less likely to vote for John McCain knowing he fathered a black baby?"

It's dirty pool, and it'll be played as such by the McCain camp.

Just because someone is a war hero doesn't give them a free right to be an asshole. John McCain is an asshole and he showed his true colors at the ABC debate when he said "we are going to miss you tomorrow Ron."

BillyDkid
01-07-2008, 08:59 AM
Huckabee seriously needs to be Swift Boated - though that isn't the right word, because you don't need lies and deception to out Huckabee. We need to compile all the Huckabee flaws - his corruption, his tax raising, his doing favors for friends like releasing killers and much more - and expose this creep for who he really is. I would actually donate to an ad to expose him.

Redcard
01-07-2008, 09:01 AM
Just because someone is a war hero doesn't give them a free right to be an asshole. John McCain is an asshole and he showed his true colors at the ABC debate when he said "we are going to miss you tomorrow Ron."

Oh, I don't doubt that he's an asshole.

Just attacking him on his war record is going to get played very badly by a MSM that already ignores us. It all depends on how the Republican party reacts to the book. They might support McCain if the numbers look right. If that happens, .. well.. I dunno.

I'm curious who Karl Rove is working for in this one, too.

daviddee
01-07-2008, 09:03 AM
...

UtahApocalypse
01-07-2008, 09:10 AM
This could be a publicity ploy from a unknown publisher trying to catch some bucks. Don't get to excited about it. We don't even know if any media outlets will actually show up at this. My guess is something about McCain due to the wording of the presser. Remember we have gotten overly excited about some huge secret breaking story here in the past.... and it fizzled out.

pacelli
01-07-2008, 09:21 AM
I'm curious who Karl Rove is working for in this one, too.

In my view, the only one that Rove /"The Architect" ISN'T working for is Ron Paul. Huckabee, Giuliani, McCain, Romney, all CFR. Thompson has former Bush policy staff member Joel Shin on his team, so he's suspicious as well for a Rove connection.

shrapnel88
01-07-2008, 09:25 AM
a huge mccain scandal today could help us win NH tomorrow.

pacelli
01-07-2008, 09:27 AM
a huge mccain scandal today could help us win NH tomorrow.

It might involve Romney, although some of the rumors would rule this out. Evidently Romney made some investments in an oil company that was involved in the Darfur genocide.

Ninja Homer
01-07-2008, 09:33 AM
a huge mccain scandal today could help us win NH tomorrow.

So could an Obama scandal, by getting more of the Independent voters on our side. Hopefully it's one of the 2.

Jay778x
01-07-2008, 09:35 AM
im not getting my hopes up but it would be a miracle if something big torpedoed McCain, Huckabee, Romney, or Obama.

Paul10
01-07-2008, 09:39 AM
....

jake
01-07-2008, 09:40 AM
McCain, Guiliani, Huckabee, and Thompson are terrifying candidates

BeFranklin
01-07-2008, 09:42 AM
They all have scandals, so they're all running around in circles today!

JS4Pat
01-07-2008, 09:49 AM
I hope it is McCain.

Me too - And I hope it destroys his candidacy. He has become my "MOST HATED" GOP candidate even edging out Rudy.

Ethek
01-07-2008, 09:59 AM
Me too - And I hope it destroys his candidacy. He has become my "MOST HATED" GOP candidate even edging out Rudy.

Yeah, Rudy does not secretly covet amnesty like McCain has. Also, Rudy is at least open about his desire for a police state.

d_goddard
01-07-2008, 10:08 AM
Oh god that would be wonderful.

See this thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=79827) with videos of McCain in NH this weekend.
I really want McCain taken down a few pegs, that slimy politicking war-hawk tax-monger!

(yeah I know... "ask me how I really fell!")

Dan Klaus
01-07-2008, 10:16 AM
He has become my "MOST HATED" GOP candidate even edging out Rudy.

+1

wohoo
01-07-2008, 10:28 AM
Is the press event broadcast live somewhere? I checked http://npc.press.org/ and they're in the schedule but no mention if we can follow it live.

Ninja Homer
01-07-2008, 10:37 AM
The more I think about this, the more I feel it will be just a publicity stunt to increase book sales. If there are 10 pages of credible referenced sources, this can't really be anything new, can it? If anything, it is probably something that us well-informed Ron Paul supporters know already, but the media is under-reporting. For instance, Huckabee's tax record as gov.

MJfromCT
01-07-2008, 10:39 AM
Let's hope it is McCain, the neocons will be left in complete disarray if that is the case.

rollingpig
01-07-2008, 10:39 AM
mitt mchackbee?

Ethek
01-07-2008, 10:41 AM
Hillary being OUTED??


www.drudgereport.com

kushaze
01-07-2008, 11:19 AM
After watching and reading all the information on this website I am 90% sure this is about McCain:

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

Tom29
01-07-2008, 11:25 AM
Schmuckabee ; McQaida or Flop Romeny ( I hope)

dsentell
01-07-2008, 11:26 AM
My vote it that this will be about McCain.

About a year ago, there was a Vietnam vet on Coast to Coast AM talking about the MIAs and POWs left behind in Vietnam. He said McCain knew about it and was part of the official coverup about the existence of these troops . . . .

The speaker seemed quite knowledgeable - my guess is that he has now written a book . . .

asgardshill
01-07-2008, 11:32 AM
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ndega360
01-07-2008, 12:11 PM
Anybody know if there is a live telecast of this anouncement??

kushaze
01-07-2008, 12:14 PM
Anybody know if there is a live telecast of this anouncement??

bump. I have been trying to find info all morning.

mtmedlin
01-07-2008, 12:14 PM
Not saying that I have the final authority or that this is 100% but a professor that I have worked with before does proof reading and other work for a semi major book publisher. She has heard of the book in question when it was being shopped. It is about McCain and several of his lies. It goes into questions about his blocking POW investigations and attempts to paint him as not a real "patriot". Whe didnt give alot of details but said it wasnt as big as it is being made out. She did say that there may be more in there then what was leaked though and if so, then it could be something.

colecrowe
01-07-2008, 12:24 PM
6 minutes til this crap starts supposedly

Chase
01-07-2008, 12:24 PM
Where can this be watched?

tamor
01-07-2008, 12:27 PM
C-Span 2 is the National Press Club - lady talking now

kushaze
01-07-2008, 12:32 PM
bump for more info

CapitalistRadical
01-07-2008, 12:35 PM
I wish they had waited until such time as he had pulled ahead in the polls.

Jimmy
01-07-2008, 12:36 PM
Soooo nothing yet?

WilliamC
01-07-2008, 12:36 PM
update? C-span2 not talking about this at the moment.

Greg in VA
01-07-2008, 12:36 PM
I wish they had waited until such time as he had pulled ahead in the polls.

has this story broken?

Slist
01-07-2008, 12:37 PM
bump for more info

Here is a livestream of cspan 2. The book presentation is supposedly broadcast there.

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan2_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

No idea if that's correct though....

pacelli
01-07-2008, 12:39 PM
I'm watching C-SPAN 2 now, national press club, meeting of the Consumer Product Safety Commission. The speaker is just going on & on about ports, shipments, employees-- nothing related to this rumor.

I suspect this story was a hoax or the person was silenced, or maybe pushed back.

PhillyEagles11
01-07-2008, 12:39 PM
What are the odds this turns out to be something completely lame? You would think this would get more news coverage if a major candidate was about to be 'exposed'. But I guess part of that could be because the author wants to remain anonymous until it is revealed. In the meantime I will continue to refresh this thread every 10 minutes until we hear something. :D

Mahkato
01-07-2008, 12:41 PM
In the meantime I will continue to refresh this thread every 10 minutes until we hear something. :D

It's a lot easier to just subscribe to the threads you like.

smartguy911
01-07-2008, 12:41 PM
i think they silenced the guy....all i hear ports, companies, retailers

pinkmandy
01-07-2008, 12:41 PM
I'm watching and waiting, too. Nancy Nord needs to stfu with the CPSC so we can find out what is going on.

allyinoh
01-07-2008, 12:43 PM
Has anyone tried calling the guy in the OP to see what's going on??

pinkmandy
01-07-2008, 12:45 PM
http://www.press.org/

It is scheduled!


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12:00 PM NPC House Committee
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12:30 PM Nancy A. Nord
NPC Luncheon Loc: Holeman Lounge

1:30 PM Revelation Press
News Conf Loc: Murrow Room




So on Cspan we are seeing the McClendon room...not the Murrow room.

kushaze
01-07-2008, 12:47 PM
http://www.press.org/

It is scheduled!



So on Cspan we are seeing the McClendon room...not the Murrow room.


Thanks

colecrowe
01-07-2008, 12:49 PM
NPC Day Book: Event Details
Event Date: Jan. 7, 2008
Event Name: Revelation Press
Event Type: News Conference
Time: 1:30 PM
Sponsored by: Denny Weddle and Associates
Event Location: Murrow Room
Details: Contact: Barry Thigpen @702-791-2377

colecrowe
01-07-2008, 12:50 PM
Do you think Drudge will be the first to have it?

pinkmandy
01-07-2008, 12:50 PM
Oops, Holeman Lounge.

I've been doing searches on Revelation Press hoping someone with them is streaming the footage...no luck.

dsentell
01-07-2008, 12:50 PM
I just left Drudge -- nothing yet . . .

Ack
01-07-2008, 12:51 PM
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-07-2008/0004731972&EDATE=

I think this is it. It looks like it's just more "Mitt is a Mormon so he shouldn't be president because Mormons are weird" type stuff, unless there's more to the book than what's in the press release.

Slist
01-07-2008, 12:52 PM
Is this is?

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-07-2008/0004731972&EDATE=



WASHINGTON, Jan. 7 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- In 2004, John Kerry faced
opposition from an unexpected quarter -- his fellow Swift Boat veterans
from Vietnam. In 2008, it's Mitt Romney's turn to be "Swift-Boated" -- but
this time, instead of unsubstantiated innuendo, Romney is "Swift Boated"
with a comprehensively-researched, solidly fact-based book -- Mitt, Set Our
People Free! Like Toto in Oz, this book tears away the curtain and reveals
the truth behind the Mormon Church and its beliefs about the U.S.
Presidency -- and what that will mean to "President" Mitt Romney.

-- edit: Ack beat me :)

colecrowe
01-07-2008, 12:53 PM
stupid. blah




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Revelation Press Publishes Blockbuster Expose: Mitt -- Set Our People Free!

A Former TV Business Editor/Reporter and Decorated War Hero 'Swift
Boats' Presidential Hopeful Mitt Romney -- With Well-Documented Facts



WASHINGTON, Jan. 7 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- In 2004, John Kerry faced
opposition from an unexpected quarter -- his fellow Swift Boat veterans
from Vietnam. In 2008, it's Mitt Romney's turn to be "Swift-Boated" -- but
this time, instead of unsubstantiated innuendo, Romney is "Swift Boated"
with a comprehensively-researched, solidly fact-based book -- Mitt, Set Our
People Free! Like Toto in Oz, this book tears away the curtain and reveals
the truth behind the Mormon Church and its beliefs about the U.S.
Presidency -- and what that will mean to "President" Mitt Romney.



This exciting new book -- Mitt, Set Our People Free! -- published by
Revelation Press, reveals just how Mitt Romney's sacred oath to the Church
of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, known as the Mormons or the LDS --
including a vow of obedience to the "Living Prophet," the President of the
LDS Church -- will impact his ability to govern as President of the United
States.



Jesus said that man cannot serve two masters -- but if Romney is
elected President, he will have to serve two conflicting oaths. American
Presidents swear an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution
of the United States. However, this Presidential Oath is in direct conflict
with Romney's sacred oath to his Mormon Church -- a blood oath which puts
Romney's life, fortune and obedience at the unrestricted service of his
Church. This obedience is defined by the Church's Living Prophet, the
President of the Mormon Church and -- as they believe -- the literal Voice
of God on earth.



According to author Mike Moody, "One of the LDS Church's basic tenets
is a prophecy from founder and First Prophet Joseph Smith that in the
latter days, the U.S. Constitution will 'hang by a thread as fine as silk
fiber' until a Mormon leader rides in on his White Horse to save the U.S.
and the Constitution -- then use his control of the United States to set up
a world-wide theocracy, one based on the clearly unorthodox beliefs of the
Church of Latter Day Saints."



Author Mike Moody, himself a 7th Generation Mormon from a family of
Church-founding patriarchs - men who served Joseph Smith and Brigham Young
as they created this remarkable "church" -- uses his both insider knowledge
of the LDS Church and his long-time personal ties to his one-time college
fraternity brother, Mitt Romney, to point out the essential conflict
between Romney's sacred Oath to the Church and the oath he seeks to take as
President.



Moody also details -- chapter and verse -- the many compromises and
less-than-candid and frequently inconsistent positions Romney has taken to
bring himself from successful venture capitalist to one of the leading
contenders for the Republican nomination for Presidency.



Mitt -- Set Our People Free! includes a glossary of "insider" terms
that define the Mormon experience, as well as ten full pages of insightful,
fully-sourced end-notes. Each bold assertion in Moody's book is validated
by credible third-party sources, many of them official -- though
essentially secret -- LDS church documents. This book, published by
Revelation Press and available through Amazon.com, rips away the veil of
secrecy to expose the Mormon Church and Mitt Romney for what they really
are -- and what they really could become if they take control of the
American government.



Mitt -- Set Our People Free! is a controversial book by a controversial
author, written for those who support Romney -- and those who fear him.
Author Mike Moody, a twice-decorated US Army war hero and ten-year veteran
TV business news editor and reporter, is also a maverick Republican who,
four years ago, was the Nevada Coordinator of Republicans for Kerry.







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micahnelson
01-07-2008, 12:53 PM
/plays the Price is Right "Fail" Sound

kushaze
01-07-2008, 12:53 PM
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-07-2008/0004731972&EDATE=

I think this is it. It looks like it's just more "Mitt is a Mormon so he shouldn't be president because Mormons are weird" type stuff, unless there's more to the book than what's in the press release.

Yep. I am not sure about its validity though.

Dan Klaus
01-07-2008, 12:56 PM
lame...

tamor
01-07-2008, 12:57 PM
Maybe they are taping and will air the Murrow Room next --

kushaze
01-07-2008, 01:00 PM
lame...

I agree, but we have only read the press release. If there is more to the story than it might be detremental to Romney's campaign. A lot of people are untrustful of Romney's Mormonism than you think.

AgentOrange
01-07-2008, 01:01 PM
Ridiculous--there are plenty of valid reasons not to vote for Romney, his religion is not one of them.

szczebrzeszyn
01-07-2008, 01:01 PM
lame...

+1 :(

brandon
01-07-2008, 01:01 PM
Waste of time.

PhillyEagles11
01-07-2008, 01:03 PM
If what was posted above is true, this is lame. Attacking a guy's religion is a low blow considering to his credit he isn't bringing it up in his campaign unlike some people (*cough* Huckabee *cough*)

mtmedlin
01-07-2008, 01:05 PM
Wasnt what I thought but apparently there is a second book out there about McCain. Neither is enough to do any real damage. oh well blah....

jankyflava
01-07-2008, 01:06 PM
wow guess we need to wait and see what Mr. Flynt's got next then... that was lame.

lenwood
01-07-2008, 01:25 PM
If there really is this much fanfare about Mitt Romney being a Mormon, that's powerfully lame. First, we already knew that. And second, who cares?

asgardshill
01-07-2008, 01:56 PM
Night Court in its fifth season laaaaaame.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
01-07-2008, 02:05 PM
Ridiculous--there are plenty of valid reasons not to vote for Romney, his religion is not one of them.

What? Mitt's a Mormon??

Seriously, I agree, totally. This isn't news, or shocking, or anything at all.

LinearChaos
01-07-2008, 02:28 PM
I was also hoping this was what Flynt was talking about :(

CurtisLow
01-07-2008, 02:44 PM
Bs....

Wendi
01-07-2008, 03:00 PM
I don't like Romney, but attacking him for his faith is just wrong.

torchbearer
01-07-2008, 03:00 PM
They say the same thing about catholics, but kennedy didn't allow the Pope to dictate his policies.

Shavenyak
01-07-2008, 05:51 PM
http://img15.exs.cx/img15/1981/whammy.jpg

Aratus
03-29-2008, 11:50 AM
stevemartin, stevemartin, stevemartin...

think of ada mckinley in canton in 1896

yelling "Major" after hearing the democrat

rumor of the year! namely that the civil war

vet had fathered this... innocent child... out of...

Aratus
03-29-2008, 12:00 PM
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/020108dnmemorabilia.39de95a.html

think of what the malicious gossip of 1896 almost did to an old civil war veteran's run!
we are all gossips, SteveMartin, we are jaded by references to jack kennedy's sex life
and william JEFFERSON clinton's urges. we simply do not trust our ol' fashion'd candidates.
their sense of republican virtue. their ideals from times gone by. i for one did not buy into
that bogus KGB-FSB report about an admiral's son. however i have it on good word from
the actual town thornton wilder's OUR TOWN is based on, i have it on good word that
JOHN McCAIN was an instance of good ol' fashion'd bundling with that there peroxide
blonde lobbyist. to wit, there was no mortar and pestle, nor any horizontal monkey most
missionary in postion. however there was a courtship being sparked. of course the old
rumor about POTUS William McKinley is totally ludicrious whereas Strom Thurmond actually
did have a daughter out of wedlock. Jefferson i think is the most prolific Founding Father if
i go by his decendents. rumors are the part and parcel of a deep down and gritty fight.
John Quincy Adams had at least one brother who had a drinking problem. Robert Lincoln
had Civil War era doggerel written about his coat buying. WILLIAM CULLEN BRYANT's 1864 poem

Aratus
03-29-2008, 12:08 PM
http://onlinedictionary.datasegment.com/word/bundle
sometimes in winter a courtin' couple in auld new england...

Anti Federalist
03-29-2008, 12:18 PM
Ugh...double lame.

I read through this whole thread hoping that it was resurrected for the purposes of shedding light on "rumor control", how to not be swayed by silly stories while in the heat of battle and so on.

I'm waiting for Ashton Kutcher to pop up on the next post...

Aratus
03-29-2008, 12:19 PM
bundling a is new england custom! mccain was bunding up in new hampshire in the year 2000.
he did not have sex with that woman! unlike the turmoil of the clinton years, he was doin his "bundling"

Anti Federalist
03-29-2008, 09:21 PM
I didn't have to wait long.

Give me liberty
03-29-2008, 11:16 PM
So what happen?

Dr.3D
03-29-2008, 11:23 PM
So what happen?

Maybe today is in the future? :D

Aratus
03-30-2008, 05:59 AM
you mean that this is the merrie year 2008 insted of 1908, and john mccain...
i'll get back to you on this! in a couple of days! gotta look at this! carefully...
he i thought was bein' very robert frost and rustic, however if he aint so regional
as i was, this is like someone around the hearst press actually learning that
william mckinley in the year 1900 is spending looooong http://tarbell.allegheny.edu/
hours in Ida Tarbell's D.C appartment and doing something other than recounting all
the stories he done got from robert lincoln and that there Hays guy who was on
Lincoln's staff!!! IDA TARBELL actually did write a book about HONEST ABE, though
her investigative journalism set things up for TR's trust busting a century back...
like i gotta figure the situation that set off these mcCain people so the peroxide blonde
lookin' lobbyist is scooted out the door, and this as PEOPLE in the press do not have
the equivilency of the photo of GARY HART, liccccquer shot glass, and floooozzie on lap...


BUNDLIN' by DEFINITION?... GOTO an old dictionary and think NOAH WEBSTER thoughts!
ignor Dan'L WEBSTER briefly, and my comment about auld scratch and fellow lobbyists.
JOHN McCAIN most publically recently had 60 lobbyists as a pack around him, as the OTHER
candidates as an AGGRAGATE have some 80 lobbyists. just do the math. the almost 50/50
math. if KARL ROVE has hopped onto the McCAIN coat~tails quicker than you can say "idol of ohio"
and mark hanna, and if we study carefully the events of a century back, just as TR has
his TRUST BUSTING, maybe we ought to have our very ANGRY voter fed up FED BUSTING!!!

Aratus
03-30-2008, 06:04 AM
Obama by number hath at the time TEN lobbyists???
and if we know sorta Ms. Hillary had some 20 lobbyists???????
so there were 50 lobbyists also in the campaigns???
mcCain's sixty lobbyists today has a paralllelism to 2000
and ONE of 'em seeming to be quite receptive to his macho
male jockey shorts ol' fashion'd sweeeeeet good charm!

Aratus
04-01-2008, 08:33 AM
BEN AFFLECK soon enters the presidential sweepstakes today at 1:30?
i got two sets of VARIETY rumors sorta mixed up! its not BORAT lookin' for
BEN AFFLECK, its BRUNO! the creator of the Borat flic is even more over the edge...

Aratus
04-01-2008, 11:01 AM
our politics is not an isolated instance of sizzling sex scandals.
in finland... http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/04/01/2205332.htm