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colecrowe
01-06-2008, 11:30 PM
Originally Posted by rfbz youtube of the guy back to back i just put up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPQNdj3NqXE

In September, at 3:44 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYLVgMF9R9g&feature=related

Today at 1:34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZenB1s2rKDI

SEND IT TO THE MEDIA AND THE CAMPAIGN:


aricart Both of these debates took place in New Hampshire hum? Could this have anything to do with it?


EvilEngineer No, they didn't. One is from the Florida debate a few months ago, the other is from Jan 6th Forum.

I think Both debates were in New Hampshire! There was a repub debate in Durham, NH on Sept 5th http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_presidential_debates,_2008


Originally Posted by Jodi heck out the guy at 3:38, I think he's in both too.


yes!!! he is!

who and at what times in both vids? thanks

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PrismPaul
01-06-2008, 11:38 PM
PUT THE BRAKES ON, FOLKS!!!!

It's the same focus group. Fox never claimed that it wasn't. They referred to it both times as "the focus group" or the "the NH focus group". It is not uncommon for media outlets to use the same group over the course of a campaign.

THERE'S NO STORY HERE.

Get some rest.

matratzac
01-06-2008, 11:40 PM
i thought they were supposed to be undecided republicans within their respective state? meaning, the first focus group was a group of undecideds in florida. the 2nd was undecideds in nh. am i wrong?

someone needs to look back.

however, if im right, and they are supposed to be residents in the different states, then we have not 1, not 2, but 3 people to bust them on

PrismPaul
01-06-2008, 11:42 PM
i thought they were supposed to be undecided republicans within their respective state? meaning, the first focus group was a group of undecideds in florida. the 2nd was undecideds in nh. am i wrong?

someone needs to look back.

however, if im right, and they are supposed to be residents in the different states, then we have not 1, not 2, but 3 people to bust them on

They are introduced as the NH group in both cases. It's right in the posted youtube videos. No story.

matratzac
01-06-2008, 11:54 PM
They are introduced as the NH group in both cases. It's right in the posted youtube videos. No story.

true. but watch it again - seems to me like they picked a candidate the first time. they arent still undecided.

PrismPaul
01-06-2008, 11:56 PM
true. but watch it again - seems to me like they picked a candidate the first time. they arent still undecided.

They were originally chosen because they were undecided. But the same group is maintained over the course of the campaign to see which way they go. This is standard operating procedure. There's no story here.

Don't get me wrong. I wish there was.

michaelwise
01-06-2008, 11:56 PM
Welcome to Frank Luntz's Dog and Pony Show.