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uncle saddam
01-06-2008, 10:37 PM
As keenly observed in another thread:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rer_7TasNhQ

IT'S on MITT's youtube page...someone steal it and take out the sound of that fucker Frank!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYLVgMF9R9g&feature=related

Notice at 3:43 into the video I posted, which is from September, they have the same actor that they were talking to after this debate... Coincidence?

:eek:

It's the same guy...

homeboyjase
01-06-2008, 10:46 PM
EEK indeed!!

hillertexas
01-06-2008, 10:48 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=79365
http://roobaroo.net/Images/Fox_Focus_Group.jpg

homeboyjase
01-06-2008, 10:49 PM
Which debate was the earlier one from? Florida?

LynnB
01-06-2008, 10:52 PM
Holy cow! This is SUCH a HUGE RIPOFF! How many other plants have there been????

krott5333
01-06-2008, 10:54 PM
holy crap

krott5333
01-06-2008, 11:05 PM
someone needs to splice those videos together into one video explaining what is happening..

Catatonic
01-06-2008, 11:08 PM
Who's actually surprised? You think its beyond the establishment that got us to where we are today to do everything possible to fix an election?

Good find. I hope people are starting to realize what we're up against.

EvilEngineer
01-06-2008, 11:11 PM
Grrrr... :: cleans rifle ::

LynnB
01-06-2008, 11:14 PM
Definitely send this to www.factcheck.org:
"Our Mission

We are a nonpartisan, nonprofit, "consumer advocate" for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics. We monitor the factual accuracy of what is said by major U.S. political players in the form of TV ads, debates, speeches, interviews, and news releases. Our goal is to apply the best practices of both journalism and scholarship, and to increase public knowledge and understanding."

ne1buthilary
01-06-2008, 11:15 PM
Which debate was the earlier one from? Florida?


anyone know the answer to this? was that from a NH debate as well?

ne1buthilary
01-06-2008, 11:17 PM
n/m.. video from first one says NH

Independent Operator
01-06-2008, 11:18 PM
anyone know the answer to this? was that from a NH debate as well?

this could be important was this guy in two states, or were both done in NH.

Independent Operator
01-06-2008, 11:19 PM
n/m.. video from first one says NH

answered.... thanks!!

wildflower
01-06-2008, 11:31 PM
Let me get this straight. Just to play devil's advocate here...

So, in the first video, do we know for sure he was a McCain supporter, or was he just saying something positive about McCain?

And in the second video, do we know for sure that he was "undecided"? (when people were raising their hands, I couldn't see if he was one of them raising his hand)

Because maybe he wasn't really decided, until tonight? :confused:

(I don't know, but I'm not sure we have enough proof to say he's a paid actor)

Compulsive1
01-06-2008, 11:38 PM
He even calls him by his name: Chuck.

Chuck today:

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7183/chuck1mv0.jpg

Chuck in Nov:

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7519/chuck2qm5.jpg

Yep, an actor.

FUCK YOU FRANK!

wildflower
01-06-2008, 11:45 PM
Please someone answer my questions.

How do we know this guy was not "undecided" and said something positive about McCain the first time, and then the 2nd time decided on Romney?

(I'm with you, but I want to get this straight before I post it on other forums)

Compulsive1
01-06-2008, 11:51 PM
Please someone answer my questions.

How do we know this guy was not "undecided" and said something positive about McCain the first time, and then the 2nd time decided on Romney?

(I'm with you, but I want to get this straight before I post it on other forums)

We don't. What we know, is that he is in two different Frank Lutz focus groups and Frank calls him by his first name: Chuck. Let people draw their own conclusions.

DealzOnWheelz
01-06-2008, 11:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rer_7TasNhQ

right around 1:20 when the blonde is talking someone walks by the back window with a Ron Paul sign

Enzo
01-07-2008, 02:47 AM
We also know about Fox and Luntz planting other "undecided voters":

http://freeman4liberty.blogspot.com/2007/10/douglas-maher-is-insane.html