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jkaufmann
01-06-2008, 08:14 PM
I was born republican to republican parents. I served in the Marine Corps during the Clinton years, and was conditioned to hate democrats for cutting the military.

I have voted in presidential elections for republicans and registered republican when I lived in a state that required me to do so.

I was all over the middle east, including Israel during my 6 years in the military. Then came 911. Then came Afghanastan. Then came Iraq -- thats where it ended. Something was wrong. Preemptive war. It was instinctual. Yet I let myself believe they knew something more then I did. I trusted them.

That trust was broken -- Including my long standing republican parents, they disbelieved them as well. We actualy liked Obama, if not for policies, but because we trusted him.

Then I found Paul in May. When he spoke, it was the first time I had heard someone from authority speak what my gut had told me for years. He was speaking to my suppressed political id. I felt that I had been right all along; I just needed someone like him to confirm it to me. I showed my parents, sister, and friends. All are Pauliticions now. Just from his messege.

Is this in some way similar to others here? We knew along along but placed our trust in the status quo?

I don't know who will win the presidency. I do not think it matters. 50 years later, there will be a new fight that our children will have to battle against new ideologies and new dragons. I do know, that my fight is now. Its not about Ron; its about the message from an old man that awoke my inner sense of right and wrong to act. Act I will. For all time. I will remain politicaly active in my community and beyond. I will fight the fight; not just to win, but to say I fought them!!!!!

We don't have to beat them in today's battle; We just have to fight them! If it means the desecration of the republican party, and democratic-socialist rule for several years, so be it. But I will not say that I did nothing.

matthylland
01-06-2008, 08:21 PM
I am joining you brother, I will not rest a day from fighting these traitors.
I want my country back

"Let it not be said we did nothing"

Indy Vidual
01-06-2008, 08:24 PM
Ron Paul: A New Hope (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA)

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Congressman Ron Paul: Archives (http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html) (Dr. Ron Paul in his own words and brilliant writings)

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Knut Schreiber
01-06-2008, 08:26 PM
Do so! In Germany we didn't 75 years ago. Then it was: "How could this happen?"

Ron2Win
01-06-2008, 08:29 PM
I don't think a lot of people here realize how important this elections are.

We either fight them today, with love and peace or tomorrow where I fear things may be worse.

Diana
01-06-2008, 08:44 PM
When I first heard him, all I could say was "I think I like this guy," but I'm naturally cynical I guess and I didn't trust him right away either. I started reading, watching interviews, researching and everywhere he kept speaking my mind, and he had this awesome record, completely stellar voting history in Congress. He kept saying things I've said, thought, known forever, but more than that, it was always backed up with action. He didn't just say things to say them, he actually believed them and followed through. That's what got me involved.

I feel like if I work and help to get this man elected, he's not going to let me down, he'll stand up for my rights, my freedoms, and we can make a real difference. What REALLY surprised me was the number of people who also supported him. I was used to being kind of a freak in my views, so to know there were so many other like-minded, freedom-loving folks, was something I wasn't expecting. Most places where I've discussed government issues, the free-market anarchists are about the closest to my views - but I disagree with the viability of anarchism and feel that the intention of the founders to use a document, the constitution to protect the people from both the government and mob-rule has been the best solution yet. Ron Paul seems to agree :).

You're right that we need to continue the fight even beyond the election, and I plan on it!

acroso
01-06-2008, 08:47 PM
Well yes out consolation prize has always been ...none of them will be prez either.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
01-06-2008, 08:52 PM
Is this in some way similar to others here? We knew along along but placed our trust in the status quo?

I'm a little different. I was born to republican parents, from a military family. I convinced them to vote for Harry Browne. Now I've convinced them to vote for Ron Paul. They might have voted for Fred in this election, but they perked up when I told them that Barry Goldwater Jr. endorsed RP. I knew who Goldwater was when I was 10, and never would have heard from him in school. I dropped out of politics years ago because I saw nobody like Paul coming along, ever. Now I'm back one more time.

Anyway, however we got here, we're here now, and we're here for some pretty major reasons we all agree on. I can't be happier about that.

freelance
01-06-2008, 08:54 PM
OP, will you please repost this the morning after NH and all the other primaries? PLEASE! We have to keep perspective no matter what the outcome. This is not a short-term campaign, nor a short-term revolution. I have the same ups and downs and everyone else, but occasionally there's a great post that reminds me why we're all here. Yours is one of those posts.

AdoubleR
01-06-2008, 10:09 PM
bump for positivity!

Thomas Paine
01-06-2008, 10:34 PM
Prepare for battle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj4WX6zAUy4&NR=1

AceNZ
01-06-2008, 11:21 PM
Prepare for battle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj4WX6zAUy4&NR=1

rick roll

Cardinal Red
01-07-2008, 12:20 AM
I was born republican to republican parents. I served in the Marine Corps during the Clinton years, and was conditioned to hate democrats for cutting the military.

I have voted in presidential elections for republicans and registered republican when I lived in a state that required me to do so.

I was all over the middle east, including Israel during my 6 years in the military. Then came 911. Then came Afghanastan. Then came Iraq -- thats where it ended. Something was wrong. Preemptive war. It was instinctual. Yet I let myself believe they knew something more then I did. I trusted them.

That trust was broken -- Including my long standing republican parents, they disbelieved them as well. We actualy liked Obama, if not for policies, but because we trusted him.

Then I found Paul in May. When he spoke, it was the first time I had heard someone from authority speak what my gut had told me for years. He was speaking to my suppressed political id. I felt that I had been right all along; I just needed someone like him to confirm it to me. I showed my parents, sister, and friends. All are Pauliticions now. Just from his messege.

Is this in some way similar to others here? We knew along along but placed our trust in the status quo?

I don't know who will win the presidency. I do not think it matters. 50 years later, there will be a new fight that our children will have to battle against new ideologies and new dragons. I do know, that my fight is now. Its not about Ron; its about the message from an old man that awoke my inner sense of right and wrong to act. Act I will. For all time. I will remain politicaly active in my community and beyond. I will fight the fight; not just to win, but to say I fought them!!!!!

We don't have to beat them in today's battle; We just have to fight them! If it means the desecration of the republican party, and democratic-socialist rule for several years, so be it. But I will not say that I did nothing.


QFT

pilby
01-07-2008, 01:34 AM
my experience was very similar. i voted for bush and wanted so badly for him to be a good president. i wanted to trust him and like him. one program after another made me feel rather uneasy.

then there was pre-emptive war. "conservative" media pumped it like it was the best thing in the world. everyone i was used to agreeing with was gunning for it. in my gut i knew it was wrong. i even maybe expressed that to a few people. but i stayed under the radar and i constantly tried to see how it was a good, justifiable thing.

when i started reading about Dr Paul, my eyes opened. here was somebody preaching the ideals i had heard and held to my whole life. but he showed how you can actually apply those principles in real life. you don't have to compromise and play politics. and when i heard him talk about the war, i knew instantly he was right.

i too am finally getting truly involved and plan to stay involved. i now know what a truly principled politician looks like. one guy with courage and integrity can make a difference. just imagine if a few years from now there are 100's of us with that same courage and integrity making a difference in our government and in our nation.

angrydragon
01-07-2008, 01:44 AM
That's inspirational!!

kaleidoscope eyes
01-07-2008, 04:01 AM
Amen, ditto that sentiment OP bump

newbitech
01-07-2008, 04:08 AM
so true

jason43
01-07-2008, 06:53 AM
I was born republican to republican parents. I served in the Marine Corps during the Clinton years, and was conditioned to hate democrats for cutting the military.

I have voted in presidential elections for republicans and registered republican when I lived in a state that required me to do so.

I was all over the middle east, including Israel during my 6 years in the military. Then came 911. Then came Afghanastan. Then came Iraq -- thats where it ended. Something was wrong. Preemptive war. It was instinctual. Yet I let myself believe they knew something more then I did. I trusted them.

That trust was broken -- Including my long standing republican parents, they disbelieved them as well. We actualy liked Obama, if not for policies, but because we trusted him.

Then I found Paul in May. When he spoke, it was the first time I had heard someone from authority speak what my gut had told me for years. He was speaking to my suppressed political id. I felt that I had been right all along; I just needed someone like him to confirm it to me. I showed my parents, sister, and friends. All are Pauliticions now. Just from his messege.

Is this in some way similar to others here? We knew along along but placed our trust in the status quo?

I don't know who will win the presidency. I do not think it matters. 50 years later, there will be a new fight that our children will have to battle against new ideologies and new dragons. I do know, that my fight is now. Its not about Ron; its about the message from an old man that awoke my inner sense of right and wrong to act. Act I will. For all time. I will remain politicaly active in my community and beyond. I will fight the fight; not just to win, but to say I fought them!!!!!

We don't have to beat them in today's battle; We just have to fight them! If it means the desecration of the republican party, and democratic-socialist rule for several years, so be it. But I will not say that I did nothing.

You and I have a lot in common. I joined the Army in 1998 under Clinton, couldn't stand him and was in the abortion in Yugoslavia. Voted Bush because he promised to end nation building. Have been a Republican forever. Believed in the Afganistan war at first, started questioning the Iraq war and dropped out in 2006 because I didn't see anything I really believed in the party anymore... then came Paul and brought me back... and made me more active than ever. To me this is personal. I feel betrayed by my own people. I want my party back.

jkaufmann
01-18-2008, 09:41 AM
Fight!

rmholla
01-19-2008, 03:02 AM
I use to always tell my fellow soldiers that if they wanted a pay raise they needed to vote Republican. Now I don't think it matters who a soldier votes for (other than Ron Paul) because both sides kick dirt in the faces of soldiers by cutting benefits. So sad.


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Fields
01-19-2008, 04:03 AM
I was born republican to republican parents. I served in the Marine Corps during the Clinton years, and was conditioned to hate democrats for cutting the military.

I have voted in presidential elections for republicans and registered republican when I lived in a state that required me to do so.

I was all over the middle east, including Israel during my 6 years in the military. Then came 911. Then came Afghanastan. Then came Iraq -- thats where it ended. Something was wrong. Preemptive war. It was instinctual. Yet I let myself believe they knew something more then I did. I trusted them.

That trust was broken -- Including my long standing republican parents, they disbelieved them as well. We actualy liked Obama, if not for policies, but because we trusted him.

Then I found Paul in May. When he spoke, it was the first time I had heard someone from authority speak what my gut had told me for years. He was speaking to my suppressed political id. I felt that I had been right all along; I just needed someone like him to confirm it to me. I showed my parents, sister, and friends. All are Pauliticions now. Just from his messege.

Is this in some way similar to others here? We knew along along but placed our trust in the status quo?

I don't know who will win the presidency. I do not think it matters. 50 years later, there will be a new fight that our children will have to battle against new ideologies and new dragons. I do know, that my fight is now. Its not about Ron; its about the message from an old man that awoke my inner sense of right and wrong to act. Act I will. For all time. I will remain politicaly active in my community and beyond. I will fight the fight; not just to win, but to say I fought them!!!!!

We don't have to beat them in today's battle; We just have to fight them! If it means the desecration of the republican party, and democratic-socialist rule for several years, so be it. But I will not say that I did nothing.

Thank you, for what you have given to this country.

Mini-Me
01-19-2008, 07:43 AM
To victory! :)