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Live_Free_Or_Die
01-06-2008, 06:11 PM
nt

phixion
01-06-2008, 06:17 PM
There's only so much grass-roots and the campaign can do.

It is the media who influence the masses.

Pete

Myerz
01-06-2008, 06:19 PM
It would help if the grassroots and the official campaign would talk to each other once in a while!

pcosmar
01-06-2008, 06:19 PM
There are several reasons actually.
We can do our part to make them irrelevant.

me3
01-06-2008, 06:21 PM
Not enough Republicans.

I think a lot of people feel that talking to someone and getting a positive response means they did their job.

NOT TRUE.

We should be going after the nursing homes and community centers for senior citizens.

It's no use recruiting people if they are not,

(1) Registered to vote
(2) Registered (R) in closed primary states
(3) On the campaign's "Get out the vote" list for that state

Any conversions short of this, are a waste of time. And we should be grabbing GOP members, because that erodes the base for the other candidates.

ggibson1
01-06-2008, 06:23 PM
Ron Paul could also try explaining he will fight the terrorists at the same time he is trying to win over the muslim world...

ronpaul_prophet
01-06-2008, 06:27 PM
Please. Be honest. The only reason Ron Paul is not polling higher is because people view his foreign policy as "isolationist", when in reality is it "protectionist". When people tell you that they we are fighting in Iraq to protect our country, pose this question. Do you think we could take all the money we have spent in Iraq and completely and 100 percent secure the border and search every container coming into our ports? I think we could. I think we could do it with hundreds of millions to spare.

Brad Zink
01-06-2008, 06:27 PM
Ron Paul could also try explaining he will fight the terrorists at the same time he is trying to win over the muslim world...

By fighting the Federal Reserve and the CIA he is fighting the terrorists. :)

trey4sports
01-06-2008, 06:29 PM
amen.......
there is not nearly enough exposure.


everyone is crying this and that and fine picking the details when people just don't understand that without more exposure no matter how good the message is we will never win. thats why i supported a campaign blitz in NH. if we invested 4 or 5 million just absolutely outspending every single campaign and his message was heard, we could win (1st place to be clear) the state. considering its probably the most receptive state. and this in turn would FORCE the media to cover us. and with the media coverage the masses would be unleashed........

Signzit
01-06-2008, 06:34 PM
By fighting the Federal Reserve and the CIA he is fighting the terrorists. :)


+1

Brad Zink
01-06-2008, 06:36 PM
Ron Paul won Jefferson County in Iowa. Here are two threads that show how they did it:

THIS is how they won Jefferson county
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=78806

Could it be this simple to Win?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=75102

CFRSucks
01-06-2008, 07:07 PM
This grassroots effort has been enormous, the biggest in history. We are operating on a hugely slanted playing field, tilted constantly against us. Any other movement, or campaign would have been long over with the bs and games we have been handed by the establishment. It is only our hard work, and this beacon of truth that is Ron Paul that allows us to move forward. The polls are nothing but tools to steer elections, with pared down lists prepared by scumbags like FU frank, an his ilk. The polls that don't include Ron at all are what? Some kind of innocent oversight?

The message is fine, Ron Paul is wonderful, and the effort has been great. We just have to keep plugging away, working hard, using our creativity, and intellect. The constant negativity, blaming, and bickering gets us no where, and in fact is our weakness. If you enjoy the thought of establishment media folks laughing at you, then by all means, get on his board, and blame, bitch, in fight, and act like a defeatist. The scum in the establishment is counting on this, and we can not allow it.

The machine we are working against is in control of the mass media, which is where the establishment chooses to make the playing field for elections. We either try and continue to move the playing field, or get better at playing their game, on their home court. This is going to no small feat in one election cycle.

This is not going to be easy, like a cute little Cinderella story we just walk away with because we have righteousness and truth on our side. We are battling a system that has spent years brainwashing, and dumbing down our citizens. The establishment is only getting this challenge because of the free exchange of information on the internet that has allowed minds to be freed from the deceptions our previous generations had to take to their graves.

We are not losing in spite of this, we are having a huge effect, we are on the verge of creating momentum. The media will not come out and say this, but you can tell by their actions that know this all too well. This exclusion by Fox is a shining example, I think it helps in the end. The tyranny of our system is just being forced to show its true colors to protect its hegemony of power. The more we keep fighting, the more they will be forced to expose their true nature to everyone.

PS: Please quit kissing these media types in the tush every time they simply do their job, or feign fairness toward Ron Paul for a fleeting moment or two. These people do not care about Ron, and only do this to pacify us. The entire MSM can be grouped into one category as far as this revolution is concerned, our ENEMIES. The sooner we realize this the better IMO.

Paul4Prez
01-06-2008, 07:08 PM
There are several reasons, actually.

The first is that a lot of people either haven't heard of him or don't know much about him. We have started to change this, and can do even more.

The second is that they think he is a fringe long-shot candidate, because the media has called him that almost every time they've mentioned his name. His 10% finish in Iowa has helped weaken this objection, and a strong showing in New Hampshire will weaken it further.

The third is specific policy differences, but it's the least important, I think. If people get to know Ron Paul, and think he is a serious contender, they will overlook a few policy differences, because they respect his integrity and consistency.

Cap'n Crunk
01-06-2008, 07:14 PM
Not enough Republicans.

I think a lot of people feel that talking to someone and getting a positive response means they did their job.

NOT TRUE.

We should be going after the nursing homes and community centers for senior citizens.

It's no use recruiting people if they are not,

(1) Registered to vote
(2) Registered (R) in closed primary states
(3) On the campaign's "Get out the vote" list for that state

Any conversions short of this, are a waste of time. And we should be grabbing GOP members, because that erodes the base for the other candidates.

agreed the campaign needs to pay people to go out and get the senior vote. This is the grassroots weakest area.