GOP can't win without our "10%"

[Matt Collins]

I dont know if the GOP understands this or not, but they will NOT be able to win against the Democrats unless they have the support of Ron Paul's "10%"



Be sure to spread this idea around, hopefully they will catch on.

[jj111]

I think the topmost GOP leadership knows this and is planning to throw this election to the Democrats.
I think the average conservative voter has no clue about this point. They just believe the propaganda they hear from the Old Media and the GOP leadership.

[mport1]

Very good idea and we should make sure the Republican Party knows this.

[curtisag]

That's why they keep asking if Ron will support the Republican nominee.

[ronpaulitician]

To me, Paul's campaign has always been sort of a last chance for the Republican Party, in regard to my vote.

[tmg19103]

GOP can't win with RP's 10%. Any neocon running in the general election loses to the Dem.

It's RP or write-in for me.

[atilla]

that implies that we can't win without their 90%.

[PimpBlimp]

That's why they keep asking if Ron will support the Republican nominee.

Too bad for them that Paul is going to be in it till the bitter end.

[ronpaulfan]

Worst case scenario, they better at least make him VP

[jj111]

I also think the conservative pro-war base has been deluding themselves that they can win with a pro-war candidate because they have up until now assumed Hillary was going to win the nomination, and I think they all believed that Hillary was so unpopular among so many Americans that it would not matter who they put up against Hillary, the Republicans would win. I think it's looking more and more likely that Hillary is not going to get the Democratic nomination.

[CountryRoads]

A vote for someone other than Ron Paul is a vote for the status quo. I WILL NOT vote for the others.

[Son of Freedom]

that implies that we can't win without their 90%.

I agree if the split is 90/10. If this were more like 50/50 I would argue that we could win while any neocon would definately lose.

[j6p]

lets not forget about the delegates to the convention

[jj111]

Obama will win by a landslide against any GOP nominee EXCEPT Ron Paul, who instead would likely beat Obama by a landslide.

[slamhead]

I agree...let the GOP know as a group that we will vote for a Democrat if Ron Paul is not elected. As we know the Democrats will win against anyone else except Ron Paul.

[the_oco]

that implies that we can't win without their 90%.


Yes

[j6p]

Good think there are ron paul delegates:)

[hocaltar]

The GOP is dying. It's the party of old people. Young people are predominatly democrat/don't vote. Primarily because a vote for a democrat is a typically a vote for a socialist. Anyone who believes that the democrats protect individual liberty is smoking something. The democrats and now republicans vote to increase the size of government, and when government increases liberty decreases.

[Thumper]

Maybe we should start emailing and calling the GOP national headquarters and let them know that unless Ron Paul starts getting equal, unbiased and fair media coverage throughout the primaries, we will all yank our support for ANY GOP CANDIDATE that wins the nomination if Ron Paul doesn't (God Forbid) win the nomination. That it is in their best interest to stick up for our candidates right to MSM coverage and make sure that he gets his fair share, or we walk and leave them holding the bag with an unwinnable election.

[DontFret]

They would far rather have any of the Dems in power than Ron Paul. They are throwing the election right now. As long as the military-industrial complex is left intact and the scheme for globalization unaffected that's good enough for them...

[DontFret]

They would far rather have any of the Dems in power than Ron Paul. They are throwing the election right now. As long as the military-industrial complex is left intact and the scheme for globalization unaffected that's good enough for them...

None of the others will ever get my vote. Not that it matters, since their allegiance to the Council on Foreign Relations and other shadowy organizations that favor the New World Order (and undermining of American sovereignty) is far greater than it is to some supposed 'Republican party'. The party monikers are a sham, pure and simple, when you get right down to it...

[tnvoter]

this is a fact. And if they don't stop snubbing us and fail to look at Constituon again theyre going to lose big in 08.

[PimpBlimp]

Theyll never do THAT... SOme crazy RP suppoter will shoot whoever the president is just so RP can be president

hahaha I was just thinking the same thing today

[bolidew]

GOP can't win without our "10%"

...

Right, that's why we need to work hard to keep in the race and force it into a brokered convention, and RP can reveal his secret, cough, "3rd", weapon then. :)

[Eponym_mi]

Theyll never do THAT... quote edited.

LMAO Good one!

[constitutional]

Either it's all or nothing for Republicans. I'll donate till I bleed to keep Ron Paul in the race.

I have donated 4 times thus far and I'm not a U.S. citizen yet.

[grizzums]

They would far rather have any of the Dems in power than Ron Paul. They are throwing the election right now. As long as the military-industrial complex is left intact and the scheme for globalization unaffected that's good enough for them...

None of the others will ever get my vote. Not that it matters, since their allegiance to the Council on Foreign Relations and other shadowy organizations that favor the New World Order (and undermining of American sovereignty) is far greater than it is to some supposed 'Republican party'. The party monikers are a sham, pure and simple, when you get right down to it...

I agree. Its sickening...there ain't a dimes bit of difference between the Neo-Rethuglicans and Dimocrats these days except for differing lip serviced rhetoric. I will cast a vote for the Dimocrats though if RP quits running...I am just completely disgusted with what has happened to the Republican party. I have served this country honorably and have always been quite a patriotic individual, but right now, I am more embarrassed than ever to admit that, yes, I am an American citizen.

[Mark37snj]

That's why they keep asking if Ron will support the Republican nominee.

+1

[Dary]

I remember when Rush Limbaugh said after the last election that he was through carrying water for the GOP. He was upset that the GOP has strayed from its conservative roots and he believed that to be the reason why they took such a beating.

I think he was right.

Unfortunately, right now, it looks like they still don’t get it. Yet it also looks like Rush has got himself a new set of water buckets, cuz he’s at it again. Rush the water carrier.

The base is still in denial. They are blind to what is right in front of them, and it is completely ridiculous. With Ron they get 90% or more of what they want. If their love for their country is really what they say it is, then they should take the deal. This is politics after all.

If this continues, I’ll look forward to the day when we will all be able to tell Rush, “I told you so.”

I just hope it doesn’t come to that.

[Jordan]

that implies that we can't win without their 90%.

The funny thing is, we dont need them. RP could pull any number of democrats to the "light side" of the political spectrum.

[Matt Collins]

Right, that's why we need to work hard to keep in the race and force it into a brokered convention, and RP can reveal his secret, cough, "3rd", weapon then.

It is quite possible we'll have a brokered convention and if we do I think Huck and Rudy will team up and Mitt and Fred or Fred and McCain will team up. Either way, I dont think anyone wants anything to do with Ron.

[slantedview]

wow good point. i'd never thought of this before.

[slantedview]

It is quite possible we'll have a brokered convention and if we do I think Huck and Rudy will team up and Mitt and Fred or Fred and McCain will team up. Either way, I dont think anyone wants anything to do with Ron.

all of those guys won't make it to the convention, don't you think? take away at least 2.

[Highstreet]

I dont know if the GOP understands this or not, but they will NOT be able to win against the Democrats unless they have the support of Ron Paul's "10%"



Be sure to spread this idea around, hopefully they will catch on.

It's more than 10%. That's what really scares the hell out of the establishment.

[Ronin]

It is quite possible we'll have a brokered convention and if we do I think Huck and Rudy will team up and Mitt and Fred or Fred and McCain will team up. Either way, I dont think anyone wants anything to do with Ron.

Paul/Goldwater would make things interesting.

[Grandson of Liberty]

Like I said the other day,

"They ignored us, laughed at us, and attacked us- forgetting they needed us."

Without Ron Paul, this is the year the GOP fades into the sunset. That is my commitment. Won't you share it? :cool:

[snowgoosebob]

Without Ron Paul, this is the year the GOP fades into the sunset. That is my commitment. Won't you share it? :cool:

I'm with you 100%

If GOP asks for my vote I will simply tell them.............
You called us Republican RP supporters nut-jobs and kooks and now you want My Vote?

[quickmike]

I really really want Ron to win, but if he doesnt, I will be VERY happy to see the republican party go down the tubes. They deserve it if they dont even know the difference between true conservatism and the other candidates that just talk about it and have records otherwise.

F--k em. They arent for small government anyway.

[Terry82]

Obama will win by a landslide against any GOP nominee EXCEPT Ron Paul, who instead would likely beat Obama by a landslide.

According to

*WAIT FOR IT*

MSM polls, right?

Obama clearly has the independent vote over Ron. Where does the loss come from? Communists and Pro-Choicers flocking to Paul?

[Ronin]

Like I said the other day,

"They ignored us, laughed at us, and attacked us- forgetting they needed us."

Without Ron Paul, this is the year the GOP fades into the sunset.

GOP knows they've lost. They'd rather have ANYONE but RP. Now it's just a matter of contingency plans. More than Obama and Clinton, I think they don't want Edwards. This time around I don't think it's about the GOP winning. It's about getting the right Democrat.

[Ronin]

According to

*WAIT FOR IT*

MSM polls, right?

Obama clearly has the independent vote over Ron. Where does the loss come from? Communists and Pro-Choicers flocking to Paul?

+1. Us vs Obama would be a loss. Basically, if we don't get the nomination, Obama will be the next President....as it stands now. If we do get the nomination RP will be the next president vs. Clinton.

[gaazn]

much of the business interests don't really care if the gop or democrats win because both are pro-business. only the democrats dont admit it. corporatism is real, where government and big business is out to take over everything. what really scares both parties is when a howard dean or ron paul comes along and gets the support of thousands of ordinary people who contribute money because then the big guys lose influence.

btw, democrats don't like to point out the big companies that got big during clinton's watch:

exxon merged with mobil : this is real reason for high oil prices
bankamerica merged with everyone
walmart got huge
insurance companies became banks, banks became investment companies, etc

[EvilEngineer]

Everyone with a political mind that isn't up their rear end knows that the current political climate has the democrats coming into this election with a MASSIVE lead. We are not talking a 49% / 51% election this time. The republican party has no where near the support they had in 2000 and 2004, and the same people that orchestrated the Bush wins are now on Hillary's side for this election. This was NEVER about platforms or parties... this entire scam has been orchestrated to put yet another CFR puppet in the white house. The elites don't give a rats ass who wins as long as it's one of their pawns. This is why they are so scared of Dr. Paul. He is the only real wild card in this debate that no one has control over.

[saahmed]

Think about it the other way around too. We can't win without their support.

[jointhefightforfreedom]

IMO Ron Paul is the ONLY!!!! one who can beat the democrats!!!

[Matt Collins]

Everyone with a political mind that isn't up their rear endWHat would you say - 1/50th of 1% of the population? :(

[fedup100]

Worst case scenario, they better at least make him VP

no, he is too old and they will easily kill him

[Richandler]

It's Ron Paul or I don't vote so yah this is basically true. I would say unbiasedly Obama will be the 44th President of the United States. However, I think our movement owes a few new faces in Congress.

[Mark Rushmore]

Everyone with a political mind that isn't up their rear end knows that the current political climate has the democrats coming into this election with a MASSIVE lead. We are not talking a 49% / 51% election this time. The republican party has no where near the support they had in 2000 and 2004, and the same people that orchestrated the Bush wins are now on Hillary's side for this election. This was NEVER about platforms or parties... this entire scam has been orchestrated to put yet another CFR puppet in the white house. The elites don't give a rats ass who wins as long as it's one of their pawns. This is why they are so scared of Dr. Paul. He is the only real wild card in this debate that no one has control over.

Yep.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2649/selloutph9.png

He wins, or they win.

[Matt Collins]

Great pic

[aroberso]

GOP can't win with RP's 10%. Any neocon running in the general election loses to the Dem.

It's RP or write-in for me.


+1. RP gets my vote in primaries and general whether his name is on the ballot or not.

[Liberty Star]

The way they have been behaving, perhaps they should be reminded.
And it will be more than "10%".

[Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice]

According to

*WAIT FOR IT*

MSM polls, right?

Obama clearly has the independent vote over Ron. Where does the loss come from? Communists and Pro-Choicers flocking to Paul?

Glad this moron was banned.

We'd win in a landslide once people realize Paul is the only true anti-war candidate running. Plus, America would get one hell of an education in a two-man debate, and he'd win people on sheer intelligence.

[Broadlighter]

Here's my response to the GOP:

No Constitution
No Vote
End of Discussion

[Paul4Prez]

I think if we got 10% in Iowa, we have a lot more than 10% nationally -- and will have even more than that after 10 more months of steady growth.

The political experts finally conceded that Ron Paul might win 5-10% of the vote in some states, after we raised $10 million in 48 hours, but they never dreamed IOWA would be on the high end of that range, because it won't be on the high end of our support.

New Hampshire is going to take us to the next level, and Michigan and Nevada and Maine are going to absolutely astound them.

[amy31416]

+1. Us vs Obama would be a loss. Basically, if we don't get the nomination, Obama will be the next President....as it stands now. If we do get the nomination RP will be the next president vs. Clinton.

I believe that Obama will be the next VP, and that they'll bring in Gore as soon as it's obvious that Hillary won't get the nomination. Gore will get it and Obama will be the VP.

The fact that they're marginalizing Edwards must mean that he's not playing ball. Gotta give him credit for that.

[amy31416]

Here's my response to the GOP:

No Constitution
No Vote
End of Discussion

I wouldn't say "no vote"

I'm voting for Ron Paul no matter what. Whether that be as a write-in or as the GOP nominee.

[adpierce]

The political movement faced by a Obama is impossible to beat even by Clinton, what makes any Republican think they can beat it without a similar movement on the Republican side... and it's laughable to think any of the neo-cons can summon that kind of enthusiasm the only hope for the Republicans is Ron Paul... if they'd just stop fighting us and join us I think they'd finally have a candidate who can beat Obama. No, my bet is that they're just going to be hard-headed idiots content on losing the election.

[Matt Collins]

I don't think the Dems will nominate Obama. It would increase their chances of losing. I still think it'll be Edwards, Hillary, or Gore.

[Matt Collins]

Bump for relevance

[Joe3113]

I'm writing in Ron Paul on my next Australian Ballot. :D

[Ron Paul Fan]

They most certainly can win. 1.5 million people voted in the Iowa general election in 2004. 10,000 votes split between libertarian, republican, democrats, and no votes isn't going to mean much.

[dvictr]

I dont know if the GOP understands this or not, but they will NOT be able to win against the Democrats unless they have the support of Ron Paul's "10%"



Be sure to spread this idea around, hopefully they will catch on.

not your idea... but its right.. fox knows it

[JohnnyWrath]

I will vote for whoever is the republican nomination if Hillary wins the democrat nomination. 100 year war sounds better than 4-8 years of Hillary.

[Matt Collins]

I will vote for whoever is the republican nomination if Hillary wins the democrat nomination. 100 year war sounds better than 4-8 years of Hillary.What is the difference? Please, go into detail!

[mosquitobite]

I think the topmost GOP leadership knows this and is planning to throw this election to the Democrats.
I think the average conservative voter has no clue about this point. They just believe the propaganda they hear from the Old Media and the GOP leadership.

If the GOP backs Huckabee, no doubt in my mind they are throwing this election.

[mosquitobite]

I will vote for whoever is the republican nomination if Hillary wins the democrat nomination. 100 year war sounds better than 4-8 years of Hillary.

And that's exactly the box the GOP wants you in. Welcome to your chains!


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[Cindy]

that implies that we can't win without their 90%.


The Democrat voter turn out has been about 30-40% higher. The Republican party is out this Novemeber...............unless they nominate a Republican who has proven that he can grab Democrat, third party and independent voters.

Hmmmmmmmmmm who could that Republican candidate be?

[Matt Collins]

The Democrat voter turn out has been about 30-40% higher. The Republican party is out this Novemeber...............unless they nominate a Republican who has proven that he can grab Democrat, third party and independent voters.

Hmmmmmmmmmm who could that Republican candidate be?
Thank you for summing up my point perfectly.

[ClayTrainor]

The Democrat voter turn out has been about 30-40% higher. The Republican party is out this Novemeber...............unless they nominate a Republican who has proven that he can grab Democrat, third party and independent voters.

Hmmmmmmmmmm who could that Republican candidate be?

according to CNN polls, it's John MCcain :eek: LMAO

they're clearly pushing for a Dem win

[mconder]

Is our mission to take down the GOP or change the world?

[Cindy]

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2649/selloutph9.png

Ron Paul - Not A Washington Insider

[belian78]

Yep.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2649/selloutph9.png

He wins, or they win.

this pic makes me sad in a way. maybe it just hits too close to home for me, reminding me of a time in my childhood. :o

[AlbemarleNC0003]

this pic makes me sad in a way. maybe it just hits too close to home for me, reminding me of a time in my childhood. :o

It starts with one person. Then it spreads like wildfire. Paul is smiling.

[belian78]

It starts with one person. Then it spreads like wildfire. Paul is smiling.

oh i know, and to think that this man has been in this position from day one of his term back in 1976, only makes me respect him so much more.

[VoluntaryMan]

I dont know if the GOP understands this or not, but they will NOT be able to win against the Democrats unless they have the support of Ron Paul's "10%"



Be sure to spread this idea around, hopefully they will catch on.

Except that "our 10%" is probably actually closer to 20%. If they can steal the 1st 10%, what's to stop them from stealing the 2nd? Vote fraud should be opposed. I hate the UN, but am sorely tempted to give them a call.:eek:

[Malakai0]

The GOP knows this. I'm pretty sure (without election fixing) they know any pro-war candidate has no shot at the final election.

But the peeps behind the scenes know everyones pro intervention except for Ron. They don't care who wins as long as it's one of their 8-10 picks.

[Malakai0]

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2649/selloutph9.png

Ron Paul - Not A Washington Insider

No it makes me sad too. Ron Paul is a righteous patriot, being sneered at by the money puppets and fascist neocons.

We are with him in spirit ALWAYS.


People think I'm obsessed because I talk about freedom property and honest money to all who will listen. Our platform explains the problems of this country in a sensical way and offers solutions the other candidates don't have because they don't understand the problems, or the problems work in their favor.

Let me tell you, just from IRL experiences mostly at work. With the conditions of today, and whats on the horizon, people are listening.
They will not win the day

[michaelwise]

I hope Romney still thinks he can win so he keeps pissing away his millions of ill gotten gains. I will enjoy sticking it to him if he is the nominee.

[Exarel]

that implies that we can't win without their 90%.


No.. Thats pretty silly. The reason they can't win without our 10% is because no democrat will vote for any non-ronpaul republican. If we get the nomination and don't get their 90%, we still have a very solid shot to win because democrats would be willing to vote for a true antiwar policy.

[acroso]

I agree...the GOP sucks

[Matt Collins]

Is our mission to take down the GOP or change the world?

Our mission is to get enough votes for Ron that he gets the nomination.