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Spirit of '76
07-18-2007, 07:40 PM
http://www.spirit76.org/blog/index.php?id=4343621386404974716

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Spirit of '76
07-18-2007, 08:17 PM
*Bump*

torchbearer
07-18-2007, 09:11 PM
dugg

ThePieSwindler
07-18-2007, 09:13 PM
He did say someting about being against subsidies for agricultural companies that have ethanol-extracting operations. Which is of course a good thing from a free market perspective.. would this actually hurt him in iowa? Or would it actually help him with the majority of the smaller-scale commercial farmers that don't receive the subsidies that the large agricultural operations do?

johnrocks
07-18-2007, 09:16 PM
Is Novak a neocon? I never really researched him.

Scribbler de Stebbing
07-18-2007, 09:18 PM
Maybe he heard it on Hannity. :) Neocon comes to mind when I hear Novak, but I haven't watched him at all lately.

What this means is that expectations are going up for RP in IA, so we'd better rise to meet them.

Edit: Naw, I read it. He claims Brownback will put in a strong showing because of religious ties. He raises no expectations for RP. Which means we'd better rise to exceed them.

Phil M
07-18-2007, 09:28 PM
Novak is a paleocon like Buchanan.

Spirit of '76
07-18-2007, 09:41 PM
Sorta kinda.

He's a registered Democrat, though.

Dave
07-18-2007, 09:41 PM
Novak is wrong when he says Brownback has used no mail or TV. I've gotten 2 slick pieces from Brownback.

Dave
07-18-2007, 09:50 PM
He did say someting about being against subsidies for agricultural companies that have ethanol-extracting operations. Which is of course a good thing from a free market perspective.. would this actually hurt him in iowa? Or would it actually help him with the majority of the smaller-scale commercial farmers that don't receive the subsidies that the large agricultural operations do?

Opponents will try to scare farmers with Paul's position on this. It will work for some but I know Dr. Paul can explain himself well and there aren't many farmers who are happy with the current subsidy programs because of all the rules and the fact that the subsidies end up going to the biggest corporate producers and landowners. They're a means, really, to ensure that ADM and Cargill, et al have access to cheap grain. I think a lot of farmers could be convinced that getting the government out of the business would ultimately be good for them - but a lot of them will be afraid to operate without some kind of safety net since they've been hooked on it for so long.

Remember that there are fewer and fewer farmers in Iowa all the time as the size of farms goes up. Welcome to 'production agriculture', where hogs and turkeys, etc. are raised by the thousands in huge confinements and corporate farms manage thousands of acres of crops.

remaxjon
07-18-2007, 10:44 PM
dugg

LizF
07-19-2007, 03:14 AM
Thanks for posting this Spirit!

Spirit of '76
07-19-2007, 07:45 AM
My pleasure. :)

JaylieWoW
07-19-2007, 08:28 AM
He did say someting about being against subsidies for agricultural companies that have ethanol-extracting operations. Which is of course a good thing from a free market perspective.. would this actually hurt him in iowa? Or would it actually help him with the majority of the smaller-scale commercial farmers that don't receive the subsidies that the large agricultural operations do?

I wonder about that too. Do the smaller farms outnumber the larger ones? I would suspect that with subsidies the larger farms might outnumber the smaller just from the simple fact that they aren't having to rewrite loans each year just to stay in business. I'll go see what I can find. If there are more smaller farms who would get a fairer competitive shake then we should definitely put the smaller farmers on our "to call" list.

PaleoForPaul
07-19-2007, 09:37 AM
Many consider him a Paleoconservative:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservative#Prominent_paleoconservatives

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Novak

He surely isn't a neoconservative, considering his opposition to the Iraq war.

Somehow or other they have Ron Paul listed as a Paleoconservative, I wouldn't consider Paul one.

sunny
07-19-2007, 09:47 AM
http://www.spirit76.org/blog/index.php?id=4343621386404974716

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i don't understand the digg thing.........what am i supposed to do.? i have already signed up with digg.

PaleoForPaul
07-19-2007, 11:26 AM
Log in, click on the digg button next to the story. :)

torchbearer
07-19-2007, 11:40 AM
I wonder about that too. Do the smaller farms outnumber the larger ones? I would suspect that with subsidies the larger farms might outnumber the smaller just from the simple fact that they aren't having to rewrite loans each year just to stay in business. I'll go see what I can find. If there are more smaller farms who would get a fairer competitive shake then we should definitely put the smaller farmers on our "to call" list.

Small farmers really don't recieve the subsidies. For instance, Trent Lott is one of the biggest reciepients of farm subsides, not because he is a farmer, but because he owns a lot of farms. the more farm land you have the more likely you will recieve the federal money. small farmers in my area are now bankrupt, all we have left here is coorperate farms.

PatriotOne
07-19-2007, 11:55 AM
dugg