Disney World takes your FINGERPRINT!!!

[Matt Collins]

While going to Disney World here in Orlando yesterday with my family as we approached the Magic Kingdom to go through the gates, after we swiped our tickets they required us to give a fingerprint.....



CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT!!?!!?!

[WilliamC]

While going to Disney World here in Orlando yesterday with my family as we approached the Magic Kingdom to go through the gates, after we swiped our tickets they required us to give a fingerprint.....



CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT!!?!!?!

And you let them?

[noxagol]

Another reason to never go to Disney World.

[Matt Collins]

And you let them?

Not exactly :D


It was a VERY busy day out there and the airhead gate keeper was busy trying to wrangle everyone in line. I put my finger on the scanner sideways and tilted so it couldnt get a good read and it rejected it. She came over to me and said to try again and I did the same thing and it rejected it (she had walked away). When it rejected it again she came back over and said keep trying, so I played this game a few more times until she finally just manually opened the turnstile and allowed me to walk through.

So no, they didn't get my print.

Fortunately though the tickets were complimentary and a gift from someone so my name wouldn't have been attached to it anyway.


My guess is that they want to know which "sex offenders" keep violating their rules of parole by staying away from kids etc...

It's still ridiculous.


Oh - and Judge Nap talks about this in his latest book "Nation of Sheep" which is an excellent read.

[asgardshill]

I think its a fair question to ask Disney why they feel the need to take patrons' fingerprints. Are they being shared with the police to run against lists of sex offenders? Or is Goofy just compiling a dossier on every park visitor? Regardless of the answer, anybody who is the least bit protective of their civil liberties should ask questions and use the ultimate veto if the answer doesn't satisfy - go elsewhere for your entertainment.

[wirenut]

Wow, unbelievable. If they are doing this now just makes me wonder what other companies or organizations will start doing this to people. I don't understand why more people don't get upset by this.

[Ron Paul Fan]

We have an election to win and you were parading around Fantasy Land getting pictures with Goofy? Unacceptable!

[thisisgiparti]

The sex offender and terrorist threat will always be an excuse to chip away at our privacy. I miss the good old days when parents just caught someone looking funny at their kids and kicked them in the balls. I just thought of Goofy, strangely.

Of course, if I were a kiddie perv, I'd wanna work at Disneyland. Look at Michael Jackson and his Never Never land Ranch.

[Matt Collins]

We have an election to win and you were parading around Fantasy Land getting pictures with Goofy? Unacceptable!

Well, it was a special situation. I was given some free tickets to take my sister and her kids because her husband was working and while I was in town I needed to spend time with them.


But I haven't stopped working for Ron Paul. I am in fact helping to coordinate the Nashville campaign from my laptop and cell fone while down in Orlando.

[thehittgirl]

While going to Disney World here in Orlando yesterday with my family as we approached the Magic Kingdom to go through the gates, after we swiped our tickets they required us to give a fingerprint.....



CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT!!?!!?!

Yeah, they've been doing it for a couple of years now, at least. We went in 2005 and 2006. I didn't like it and won't be going back.

I remember watching RP, I think it was a Tucker interview. Ron said he wasn't opposed to this practice, as long as it's not the government. But then I got to thinking...these big corporations will sell anything to the government for big $$$. That really made me think.

[thehittgirl]

We have an election to win and you were parading around Fantasy Land getting pictures with Goofy? Unacceptable!

If he's a true supporter, then he Ron Pauled Disney World ;). I would have left a liberty card in each ride I got out of LOL. I'm a nut :D

[Matt Collins]

Ron said he wasn't opposed to this practice, as long as it's not the government. But then I got to thinking...these big corporations will sell anything to the government for big $$$.

Well it's deceptive because they dont tell you in advance, and they also do it 30 minutes into the arrival of the grounds because they only take the fingerprint at the gate to the park. But it takes a good half hour to park, ride the tram, then the monorail, then the boat, etc and then walk all the way to the entrance and THEN you find out you have to be fingerprinted...... It really torqued me.


But the thing is they are not going to sell it to the government, but the government can probably subpoena it. More than likely, like the telcos, Disney probably shares it with the government anyway just like the NSA spying programs.


I was told tonight however by someone who knows someone who works out there tha Disney only keeps the fingerprint for the day because that is what they use to tell if you are going in and out of the park in the same day. He also told me it wasn't that detailed so that it more than likely couldnt be used to really compare to a broader repository of prints.

Regardless, I don't want them to have my prints at all.

[ConstitutionGal]

In instances such as this, I'm ALWAYS the one that stops the entire line and refuses to play ball. The feds have had my prints for decades (security clearance with the FDIC and for my carry permit) but I REFUSE to give them to any other entity for any reason. So far, I've always gotten what I wanted without being printing because I can do 0 to Bitch in like .2 seconds.

[Matt Collins]

I would have left a liberty card in each ride I got out of LOL. Most of the people there didn't speak English and I am not joking.

[meghanet]

FYI, it's not a fingerprint they're taking, it's a biometric scan and it is held in the system for only as long as your tickets are good for. When you place your finger on it the computer assigns your finger a number based on a formula that has to do with the bone structure of your finger and that number is tied to you so if someone else tries to use your ticket their finger will have a different number and they won't be able to use it. There is no fingerprint data or biometric data stored in the computers, just a number. Disney doesn't share the information with anyone and even if it was subpoenaed it would mean absolutely nothing to anyone because it is literally just a number. They started doing this because of all the ticket fraud they have had.

[heath.whiteaker]

as I recall the biometric "measurement" not finger prints gets recorded to the magnetic stripe for entry and reentry. They do not keep a database.

[Matt Collins]

Fascinating

[bbachtung]

Well, it was a special situation. I was given some free tickets to take my sister and her kids because her husband was working and while I was in town I needed to spend time with them.


But I haven't stopped working for Ron Paul. I am in fact helping to coordinate the Nashville campaign from my laptop and cell fone while down in Orlando.

Please tell me that you were wearing a Ron Paul shirt.

[hillertexas]

FYI, it's not a fingerprint they're taking, it's a biometric scan and it is held in the system for only as long as your tickets are good for. When you place your finger on it the computer assigns your finger a number based on a formula that has to do with the bone structure of your finger and that number is tied to you so if someone else tries to use your ticket their finger will have a different number and they won't be able to use it. There is no fingerprint data or biometric data stored in the computers, just a number. Disney doesn't share the information with anyone and even if it was subpoenaed it would mean absolutely nothing to anyone because it is literally just a number. They started doing this because of all the ticket fraud they have had.

This is true.
I went last year and asked about it.
FYI: You can refuse and present your ID instead.

[SonOfLiberty]

We have an election to win and you were parading around Fantasy Land getting pictures with Goofy? Unacceptable!

Now now now, some people enjoy having their photo taken with Huckabee........... ;)

[Wendi]

No private entity is going to take my fingerprint OR "biometric data" so I can spend money in their facility. If they don't want me as a paying customer, I'll go elsewhere and keep that in mind in the future. Thanks for the warning.

[RPFP]

We should just start killing child molesters. Then they wont have a need for our fingerprints.

[Ladiliberty]

I second that motion! Prison is much too kind for these perverts! And there is no cure other than death!

[Matt Collins]

Please tell me that you were wearing a Ron Paul shirt.Unfortunately no. It was too cool that day and I had to have long sleeves on and my t-shirt is short sleeves.

[JeNNiF00F00]

They do this at Busch Gardens in Tampa Florida as well but it is not always used.

[smhbbag]

We should just start killing child molesters. Then they wont have a need for our fingerprints.

After due-process, in a justice system better than ours, you bet. Investigation and trial processes these days are so screwed up that I would barely feel comfortable convicting anybody. But you're absolutely right - I'm a softy who will overlook a lot, but rape and child molestation ought to be capital crimes.

[Nicketas]

xxxx

[JuniorNJ]

While going to Disney World here in Orlando yesterday with my family as we approached the Magic Kingdom to go through the gates, after we swiped our tickets they required us to give a fingerprint.....



CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT!!?!!?!



They will slowly do this in other places, the more "common" it becomes the easier it will become to be "normal" for people to give their fingerprints. It will become every day life.