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Joe3113
01-05-2008, 08:56 PM
That's the impression I get. Just gotta wake them up on monetary policy.

TXcarlosTX
01-05-2008, 08:57 PM
ha ha yup

Spike
01-05-2008, 08:57 PM
Dumb and confused

pickfair
01-05-2008, 08:57 PM
That's true.

Spirit of '76
01-05-2008, 09:01 PM
Pretty much sums it up...

greendiseaser
01-05-2008, 09:01 PM
Dumb and confused

I agree with the "confused", not necessarily "dumb", just uninformed.

Obama has something that Ron Paul doesnt, and that is CHARISMA.

I know you and i think ron has it, but the reality is he comes off as ecentric old man who slumps over to take a nap when it isn't his turn to talk for 20 seconds.

Obama comes off like a slightly less poised John F. Kennedy.
He has CHARM, and he INSPIRES HOPE.

Beyond that, his platform sucks donkey, and he is hopelessly clueless about the country. But most young people are clueless about their country as well, and therefore they will gravitate to the one candidate who reaches out to their disenfranchisement ... and that is Obama ...

sadly, he does NOT have the platform that accurately backs the rhetoric he talks.
I believe that HE believes he has the right policies, but that is pure naievete talking.

Unfortuantely, a naive country will tend to elect a naive man, so long as that man speaks with character and charm.

:(

chowdy
01-05-2008, 09:02 PM
I'm surrounded by dumb young people at university. I agree with OP.

Birdlady
01-05-2008, 09:03 PM
We need to be recruiting Obama's supporters not insulting them!

walt
01-05-2008, 09:03 PM
lazy

literatim
01-05-2008, 09:04 PM
I think ignorant better describes them than dumb. They are ignorant of the issues.

pickfair
01-05-2008, 09:05 PM
I'm surrounded by dumb young people at university. I agree with OP.

I'm in the exact same situation. It's not just a matter of following RP's message. They're absolutely uninformed about this country's history, or the world's history for that matter. It gets me depressed everytime, which is why I'm so pleased to see that the RP Revolution seems to be working - and it has a lot of young people in it!

mmarcman22
01-05-2008, 09:05 PM
The problem is there are alot more dumbies!

Logistics
01-05-2008, 09:05 PM
The average young person i come across who supports Barack Obama only like him because hes black/mixed and dont even know what he stands for. Its really frustrating.

parke
01-05-2008, 09:06 PM
I gotta agree. Obamma is a good speaker.. but brings nothing.

Richandler
01-05-2008, 09:06 PM
Well stupid young people are a direct result of the horrible public education system. The reason California is so socialist I believe is a result of being 49th in the already horrible education system.

pickfair
01-05-2008, 09:06 PM
The average young person i come across who supports Barack Obama only like him because hes black/mixed and dont even know what he stands for. Its really frustrating.

I understand... SO well... it's frustrating as hell.

traitorist
01-05-2008, 09:08 PM
and its more frustrating to see Ron Paul squander valuable time tonight doodling instead of fighting for opportunities to speak.

yongrel
01-05-2008, 09:08 PM
They are neither confused nor dumb. They are uninformed.

They are mad as hell, but they don't know how to change it.

Don't insult them, educate them.

AFTFNJ
01-05-2008, 09:09 PM
Its all about the right information. So far the majority of the American public has the wrong information.

freedomforall
01-05-2008, 09:10 PM
I didn't really like that Paul declared his supporters young people. He made a valid point with it, however he may have alienated some of the population with the comment. The fact is that the supporters of Ron Paul are here because we support the ideas that he stands for. Period.

Paulite5112007
01-05-2008, 09:10 PM
Unfortunately, there are FAR more dumb young people than smart ones.

thisisgiparti
01-05-2008, 09:14 PM
Monetary Policy. Ron Paul is the smart money.

AFTFNJ
01-05-2008, 09:23 PM
You could be still be young in Mars years! Half your age!!!

sunghoko
01-05-2008, 09:26 PM
ignorant of issues is one thing but I think they are ignorant of ron paul. We need to get the word out about him. I'm sure more obama kids will hop over here like the guy on obamala

durden0
01-05-2008, 09:28 PM
Attacking obama supporters is not the way to win them over. Be kind, calm and informative.

anarchy
01-05-2008, 09:33 PM
I agree with the "confused", not necessarily "dumb", just uninformed.

Obama has something that Ron Paul doesnt, and that is CHARISMA.

I know you and i think ron has it, but the reality is he comes off as ecentric old man who slumps over to take a nap when it isn't his turn to talk for 20 seconds.

Obama comes off like a slightly less poised John F. Kennedy.
He has CHARM, and he INSPIRES HOPE.

Beyond that, his platform sucks donkey, and he is hopelessly clueless about the country. But most young people are clueless about their country as well, and therefore they will gravitate to the one candidate who reaches out to their disenfranchisement ... and that is Obama ...

sadly, he does NOT have the platform that accurately backs the rhetoric he talks.
I believe that HE believes he has the right policies, but that is pure naievete talking.

Unfortuantely, a naive country will tend to elect a naive man, so long as that man speaks with character and charm.

:(

If bush can be elected president, so can Ron.. bush has the charisma of the back of a horse

Logistics
01-05-2008, 09:35 PM
I understand... SO well... it's frustrating as hell.



Indeeeeed it is.


What has surprised me though these past couple of days are the Obama supporters ive come across who are angry that Ron Paul didnt win Iowa and that FOX wants to keep him out of the debate. :eek:

chipvogel
01-05-2008, 09:36 PM
This is all wrong....don't blame young people
This issue has been around for decades. I thought what is happening to the dollar today was going to happen in the 80's

Liberty Star
01-05-2008, 09:37 PM
If we are serious about winnig Obama supporters, let's not alienate them by insulting them.

Gimme Some Truth
01-05-2008, 09:45 PM
That's the impression I get. Just gotta wake them up on monetary policy.


You are correct that the lack of understanding in monetary policy etc is what makes alot of them choose Obama over Paul . But I wouldn't cast all Obama supporters as "dumb" lol ..they're alot brighter than the neocon supporters ;)

THere is also the "hip" factor and , sorry to say, the fact he could be the 1st black president which blinds people into supporting him


*what I mean when I say "sorry to say" is that alot of people are shallow and dont vote on policies NOT the fact I only want white presidents :D

(cant be too careful ;) )


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Gimme Some Truth
01-05-2008, 09:49 PM
If bush can be elected president, so can Ron.. bush has the charisma of the back of a horse

Bush was quite charismatic in 2000 ..when he could actually talk :rolleyes:

Young_Apprentice
01-05-2008, 09:52 PM
Reminds me of something that happened at the computer lab a few weeks ago.

I was sitting at a computer reading the forum when some guy sat down next to me and started typing on an Obama messageboard. He looked over at my screen, rolled his eyes and kept making these really annoying little smirks at me. So, I opened up MS Word, set the font to 20 and typed OBAMA VOTED TO RE-AUTHORIZE THE PATRIOT ACT. He quickly got up and left.

BrettCates
01-05-2008, 10:56 PM
Communicating is the key in this nation. Obama can communicate. Ron Paul comes off as being an angry old humorless grinch. I'm sorry but that's the truth. Ron Paul needs to change his marketing fast. He doesn't have much time .. otherwise it will be a Huckabee/Obama stand-off in the end.

Ron tore everyone up, huckaschmuck is a robot zombie who tries to hypnotize your wife and sisters with his lazers of telepathy.....obama is charasmatic as he'll but ron said it best when he said that they both have the young folks for them but the difference is the monetary policy. I may be a new member, but I am very active in this revolt, calling hundreds of angry americans for my meetup group, canvassing door to door, and standing in the rain with waterproof flyers....YOU don't believe do you?????? Do you love this man?

Johncjackson
01-05-2008, 11:01 PM
I disagree. I know many very intelligent Democrats, especially among Obama supporters. And I have always been a Republican or a Libertarian and have no reason to stick up for them.

Different people think different ways and I think want the same things but are misguided. I think often the misguided people are a lot less dangerous than others.

I would also say, just in my personal experience of association, dating, and marriage- that a lot of very intelligent females especially go for that side.

Johncjackson
01-05-2008, 11:03 PM
Bush was quite charismatic in 2000 ..when he could actually talk :rolleyes:

I recall him getting whipped by a crazy Alan Keyes and just about everyone else in every debate.

danberkeley
01-05-2008, 11:08 PM
That's the impression I get. Just gotta wake them up on monetary policy.

you cant teach monetary policy to dumb people

mathamagician
01-05-2008, 11:10 PM
Yea, let's try to be a little more tactful in how we describe people we'd like to convert to our cause hmmm?

prlgrl
01-05-2008, 11:10 PM
Communicating is the key in this nation. Obama can communicate. Ron Paul comes off as being an angry old humorless grinch. I'm sorry but that's the truth. Ron Paul needs to change his marketing fast. He doesn't have much time .. otherwise it will be a Huckabee/Obama stand-off in the end.I don't see him that way, neither does my 19 yo nephew.

danberkeley
01-05-2008, 11:11 PM
I agree with the "confused", not necessarily "dumb", just uninformed.



yeah but not researching your candidates is dumb. if only those obama supporters knew...

Spike
01-05-2008, 11:17 PM
Confused, misguided, uneducated, soft hearts with soft minds, however you want to describe them one thing is clear, they are not revolutionaries, and this is a time when we need a whole generation to be revolutionaries.

Obama is a JFK. But we need a Jefferson. I just wish the young people weren't so wide-eyed about a packaged candidate.

prlgrl
01-05-2008, 11:21 PM
I am amazed at my own circle of friends that are not into the election at all. What confounds me is they have no idea how important this election is. If we continue with our foreign policy, the 14-18 yo may be looking at a draft. Am I mistaken? I haven't seen that opinion on the forum, as a parent of a 14 yo, it's something I think about. How many more foreign entanglements can we get into without it?

BuddyRey
01-05-2008, 11:22 PM
I wouldn't say dumb...just misguided. The media has done such a good job of flattening and simplifying the debate to purely one-axis; left vs. right. People get so caught up in that flawed dialectic that they don't realize that there are anti-war conservatives and pro-war liberals. Obama is cashing in on the anti-war angst, cunningly funneled into just one party by the media mind-engineers who know full well the deception they're selling.

nate895
01-05-2008, 11:26 PM
That's the impression I get. Just gotta wake them up on monetary policy.

Obama is surviving (and winning) because you hear what you want from him, and you believe it. He's inspirational, and so dumb young voters who usually don't vote jaws drop and turn out to vote. I hope his streak ends in New Hampshire so that we can (hopefully) face Clinton, who's either loved or hated (48% loved, 50% hated) and we can take those 50%, plus .5%, we win (unless somebody on our side runs as spoiler, that's what the Clintons thrive on).

Ball
01-05-2008, 11:35 PM
They're gullible, and easily swayed.

So go find one and sway him!