Possible? Get Kucinich or Gravel endorsement

[GHoeberX]

Since Kucinich and Gravel are close to dropping out, wouldn't it give Ron Paul a huge boost if one of them would endorse Ron Paul? It could give Paul the same launching pad as McCain with his Lieberman endorsement.

Anyway we can do anything to get Kucinich or Gravel to endorse Ron Paul when the drop out??

[Mental Dribble]

not going to happen. They stick to party lines.

The reason obama won in Iowa is because Kucinich and Richardson shuffled their support over to him. They teamed up on Hillary and for good reason.

[jrich4rpaul]

Kucinich already said "Vote for Obama if I lose"

[GHoeberX]

not going to happen. They stick to party lines.

Really? I saw Gravel walking in Ron Paul rallies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-6yNLLXsg4

[Scott Wilson]

Kucinich is a socialist who wants to increase the spending of your money on welfare programs.

[Joe3113]

Kucinich already said "Vote for Obama if I lose"

This was only for the caucus process.

I think if Paul and Kucinich could work out a deal ad running mates we could convert ALOT of liberals attracted to Kucinich. Kucinich is a good man who is wrong on domestic policy. But he is honest, and he loves Ron. They are friends and speak highly of each other.

I think it would be perfect for a third party run, but Ron needs to ride the GOP for as long as possible. However I do think plans for this should be made in advance. Planning is one area the official campaign hasn't performed well enough.

I think Kucinich would be willing to be VP on Ron's platform. Because it could help him launch himself for a successful presidency later on.

[Oliver]

not going to happen. They stick to party lines.

The reason obama won in Iowa is because Kucinich and Richardson shuffled their support over to him. They teamed up on Hillary and for good reason.


+1 - no matter how big friends Dennis and Ron are, Dennis surely isn't
going to destroy his political career by endorsing the (imaginary) "enemy".

[Joe3113]

Kucinich is a socialist who wants to increase the spending of your money on welfare programs.

Not all socialists are evil. Some just think its a better philosophy. Kucinich is a good man. As I said in my previous post, a deal could be done. I think Kucinich would run as VP on Ron's platform.

[Joe3113]

+1 - no matter how big friends Dennis and Ron are, Dennis surely isn't
going to destroy his political career by endorsing the (imaginary) "enemy".

I think you're wrong about Kucinich. The establishment doesn't like him anymore than they like Ron.

[Oliver]

I think you're wrong about Kucinich. The establishment doesn't like him anymore than they like Ron.

Which isn't surprising - but the career factor surely plays a role as well.
You don't safe your job by endorsing the competitors...

[Joe3113]

Which isn't surprising - but the career factor surely plays a role as well.
You don't safe your job by endorsing the competitors...

If Kucinich was so worried about his career he would have run on the CFR line like everybody else.

[Bradley in DC]

One of Dr. Paul's biggest problems (aside from the official staff) is the MISperception of the great majority of Republicans that Dr. Paul is some left-wing anti-war nutjob. We don't want to confirm their wrong impression.

[Oliver]

If Kucinich was so worried about his career he would have run on the CFR line like everybody else.

He would've run as a republican if he believes in the republican principles.
He didn't. So I accept that - and I honor his opposition to world-policing,
neo-cons and CFR. But he also chose his side - I'm not mad about that
in any way.

But he and Ron like each others honesty - so it doesn't make sense
to bash Dennis - taking his side into account. It's okay the way it is...

[Scott Wilson]

Not all socialists are evil. Some just think its a better philosophy. Kucinich is a good man. As I said in my previous post, a deal could be done. I think Kucinich would run as VP on Ron's platform.

That may be so but socialist philosophy is the enemy of Constitutional Republican government.

You can't mix the two. Yes we have to deal with those already dependent on welfare in a gradual way but in no way is there any justification in extending the welfare system.

[Scott Wilson]

He would've run as a republican if he believes in the republican principles.
He didn't. So I accept that - and I honor his opposition to world-policing,
neo-cons and CFR. But he also chose his side - I'm not mad about that
in any way.

But he and Ron like each others honesty - so it doesn't make sense
to bash Dennis - taking his side into account. It's okay the way it is...

Fidel Castro also opposes U.S. world policing and the neo-cons. Hugo Chavez also oppsoses U.S. world policing, neo-con philosophy and the CFR.

Would they make good running mates if they were U.S. Citizens?

[Oliver]

Fidel Castro also opposes U.S. world policing and the neo-cons. Hugo Chavez also oppsoses U.S. world policing, neo-con philosophy and the CFR.

Would they make good running mates if they were U.S. Citizens?

Pretty far-fetched since they're not Americans. So what's your point? :confused:

[Scott Wilson]

Pretty far-fetched since they're not Americans. So what's your point? :confused:


My point is that Kucinich's political philosophy cannot be mixed with limited government and freedom as he is opposed to those principles.

Yes he uses some 'Constitutional Rhetoric' but he flat out wants to increase institutional socialism.

[Oliver]

My point is that Kucinich's political philosophy cannot be mixed with limited government and freedom as he is opposed to those principles.

Yes he uses some 'Constitutional Rhetoric' but he flat out wants to increase institutional socialism.

To help others in a prosperous society isn't a bad Idea if the
society as a whole cares about the ones in need. So I cannot
blame Dennis for that, living in such a society as well and being
convinced that it's the right thing to do for those who cannot
help themselves. (And it's Christian as well)

So even if I personally think that Ron's approach is a little bit
radical for a Christian, I completely agree that American cannot
afford it the way policies are being run today.

And I might add that Germany is faaaaar more democratic as
the US-System, two-party mentality or elections - even if we're
a more social society with a more social constitution.

[Scott Wilson]

Read this....



http://www.constitution.org/law/bastiat.htm

[Joe3113]

One of Dr. Paul's biggest problems (aside from the official staff) is the MISperception of the great majority of Republicans that Dr. Paul is some left-wing anti-war nutjob. We don't want to confirm their wrong impression.

The people who think like this are already voting for Giuliani, Romney, Hucks etc.......Ron will never have their vote

What im saying is if something crazy happens and Ron cant win the nomination, its not a bad idea.

[Oliver]

Read this....

http://www.constitution.org/law/bastiat.htm

I know - the US-Constitution differs from more "modern" constitutions.
Problem is that many like to see more modern interpretations. That's
why the US drifted away from the initial constitution.

You may consider that the Constitution itself was written in a time
without phones, internet, social responsibility and so forth. But it's
also the law of the land. So it's no surprise that there are a lot of
controversies about it...

[prlgrl]

I think you're wrong about Kucinich. The establishment doesn't like him anymore than they like Ron.
Unfortunately, that's true.

[partypooper]

One of Dr. Paul's biggest problems (aside from the official staff) is the MISperception of the great majority of Republicans that Dr. Paul is some left-wing anti-war nutjob. We don't want to confirm their wrong impression.

i agree with that, but, honestly, i think he is the one who has to take much of the responsibility for that misconception. many of dr paul's public appearances, especially as he was growing more popular, became strings of anti-war buzzwords as opposed to thoughtful arguments about foreign policy that would address (as opposed to dismiss as ridiculous) security concerns of traditional conservatives.

[DaneKirk]

Since Kucinich and Gravel are close to dropping out, wouldn't it give Ron Paul a huge boost if one of them would endorse Ron Paul? It could give Paul the same launching pad as McCain with his Lieberman endorsement.

Anyway we can do anything to get Kucinich or Gravel to endorse Ron Paul when the drop out??

Thats a great idea, NOT! Lets have some crazy socialists endorse Ron, if that happens I will not vote for him ever.

[jorlowitz]

It's not a bad idea. It wouldn't even have to be a "full" endorsement. Kucinich could speak to the Republicans separately and encourage them, even if they feel differently about economics, to vote for the only honest, trustworthy, anti-war candidate on their side.

[RPsupporterAtHeart]

Sorry to re-hash this thread...but has anyone here seen this before? From a mid december interview with Kucinich.

It's nothing important today, just a bit of interesting info...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py8cXlLyX18&eurl=http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?p=73518