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tbrambo
01-04-2008, 06:28 AM
Sorry but....I hate those people.....they're dumb a-holes!:confused:

123tim
01-04-2008, 06:35 AM
Sorry but....I hate those people.....they're dumb a-holes!:confused:


Thank you for your comment.

I think that a lot of Iowa has never heard of Ron Paul.

Just something to think about...... I didn't hate you before you knew about him. :)

Lets get out and tell others about Ron Paul.

Copperhed51
01-04-2008, 06:40 AM
I know a guy from Iowa that's really cool...but I agree, Iowa blows. They are given way too much influence over the race.

Alex Libman
01-04-2008, 06:44 AM
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=18918

jeremycobert
01-04-2008, 07:24 AM
There's nothing like a general dissing of Iowans to wake me up.
I moved here form a large town in IL and really like the people here. I know we are portrayed as a bunch of bumbling farmers, but thats not the case.


Let's take a look at some recent numbers, IA vs say California

The 2004 Presidential Election:

USA: Bush 50.7%, Kerry 48.3%
Iowa: Bush 49.9%, Kerry 49.23%
Cali: Bush 44.43%, Kerry 54.41%


The 2000 Presidential Election:

USA: Bush 47,9%, Gore 48.4%
Iowa: Bush 48.22%, Gore 48.54%
Cali: Bush 41.65%, Gore 53.45%


The 1996 Presidential Election:

USA: Dole 40.7%, Clinton 49.2%
Iowa: Dole 39.92%, Clinton 50.26%
Cali: Dole 38.21%, Clinton 51.1%


The 1992 Presidential Election:

USA: Bush 37.4%, Clinton 43%
Iowa: Bush 37.27%, Clinton 43.28%
Cali: Bush 32.61%, Clinton 46.01%


You can plainly see that Iowans end up voting very similarly to the percentage outcome in the overall Presidential election. and our caucus system forces the candidates to come to ever small town and get to know the people.

what state would be better to kick off the season ?

speciallyblend
01-04-2008, 07:45 AM
iowa should be given to canada ,at least 10% of iowans have a brain, the rest should be deported to canada

MN Patriot
01-04-2008, 07:50 AM
iowa should be given to canada ,at least 10% of iowans have a brain, the rest should be deported to canada

The mainstream media has done nothing but denigrate and smear Ron, so 10% is astounding!

If the MSM had treated Paul respectfully, like he was a serious candidate with valid issues, he would have done much better.

The mainstream media needs to be deported to their favorite socialist country.

S3eker
01-04-2008, 08:20 AM
You all sound like Iowa was the Superbowl and we lost. It was Iowa! the first state in a long list of caucus/primaries! It's an envangelical bible thumping state and RP got 10%. The media sees this as a success but we don't? Rudy's camp knows this and that's why they spent little time here. You got to hand it to Rudy, he pretty much said "screw Iowa - next". From what I heard, RP didn't spend a whole lot of time and money here for a reason. I know a lot of people on here where bashing the campaign because of this but I agree with the strategy. Look what happened to Rommney? That's an example of blowing your money in Iowa. RP didn't blow our money here - that's smart!

We have NH on Tuesday. Huckabee will not do well there and he's short on money. Please be patient.

fireworks_god
01-04-2008, 08:23 AM
Iowa just schooled our ass, old-school!

Are we going to swallow our inflated sense of pride and accomplishment, learn our lesson, and apply it to actually winning? :)

DaneKirk
01-04-2008, 08:28 AM
I know a guy from Iowa that's really cool...but I agree, Iowa blows. They are given way too much influence over the race.

I can not count how many people I know that believe the same thing. These people just voted for someone who in my opinion would be destroyed in the general election.

uncloned21
01-04-2008, 08:28 AM
You all sound like Iowa was the Superbowl and we lost. It was Iowa! the first state in a long list of caucus/primaries! It's an envangelical bible thumping state and RP got 10%. The media sees this as a success but we don't? Rudy's camp knows this and that's why they spent little time here. You got to hand it to Rudy, he pretty much said "screw Iowa - next". From what I heard, RP didn't spend a whole lot of time and money here for a reason. I know a lot of people on here where bashing the campaign because of this but I agree with the strategy. Look what happened to Rommney? That's an example of blowing your money in Iowa. RP didn't blow our money here - that's smart!

We have NH on Tuesday. Huckabee will not do well there and he's short on money. Please be patient.

Good points!

DAFTEK
01-04-2008, 08:38 AM
I was born in Europe and grew up in NYC, moved to Iowa 11 years ago, i can tell you that most of my friends that don't live in Iowa are going for Obama! They tell me Ron Paul sucks, i feel like i have no more friends!! WTF is wrong with this nation, i do agree IOWA is a bunch of old folks with lots of students from outside of Iowa! At my precinct there mostly Romney people, and none of them heard about Dr. Paul.....

gdg
01-04-2008, 08:57 AM
Yes I agree it still dumbfounds me how Iowans yesterday could go to the caucus yesterday and still not know who they were voting for....that's pretty dense if ya ask me.

malibu
01-04-2008, 08:58 AM
Third in actual county delegates because we overwhelming won some college town precincts - and got people to move on - was much better than finishing third everywhere like McLame and Fred who both did NOT win a single precinct -

they both end up with a big goose-egg in delegates to advance.

Sorry if you are still spoon-fed from the military industrial communications complex propaganda machine to be a dumb fu%k about what really happened still.

beachmaster
01-04-2008, 09:06 AM
As old and lame as Iowa seems to be, I still cannot for the life of me fathom that the "rEVOLution" couldn't find more than 10,000 to go vote in the caucases. I mean for christs sake, we are talking about doing 10,000 Paulite marches and raising millions of dollars, putting blimps and planes in the air, winning straw polls, etc., but we can't find 10,000 good people in a state that size? What gives??

malibu
01-04-2008, 09:14 AM
As old and lame as Iowa seems to be, I still cannot for the life of me fathom that the "rEVOLution" couldn't find more than 10,000 to go vote in the caucases. I mean for christs sake, we are talking about doing 10,000 Paulite marches and raising millions of dollars, putting blimps and planes in the air, winning straw polls, etc., but we can't find 10,000 good people in a state that size? What gives??

we'll have more delegates from Iowa in Minneapolis the first week of September than McLame or Fred -
but yeah, the campaign has some lessons to learn or history repeats itself -

we should have won more precincts and where we did win we wanted bigger GOP turnout and did lose some people to Obama - HE was our drain on the college campuses.

R.G
08-21-2014, 10:07 PM
It's common knowledge that if you move the bottom counties of Iowa into Missouri you would double up the IQ of both states.