Don't waste your time trying to "convert" someone.

[Trassin]

There are thousands upon thousands of undecided voters in all the states that still need to hold primaries. On average, trying to convert someone that supports another candidate takes far more time and effort then convincing an undecided voter.

If trying to convert someone even crosses your mind go to Voters.RonPaul2008.com, sign up to take charge of your precinct, and just look at the hundreds of undecideds you have living right in your neighborhood!

If you doubt me then you probably also need to watch the national campaign's training videos. Look at my signature for links to those.

[Larry_for_Paul]

Extremely good point. You cannot change people's perceptions. It is impossible.

So let' go out there and convince people who haven't voted before or are undecided. Just like many of us. Believe me, it is half the population.

[BeFranklin]

Another take:

Its easier to get a voter that already agrees on the issues, but "thinks Ron Paul can't win".

Its faulty thinking. If everyone could be convinced to switch from that, Ron Paul would win.

[Trassin]

Another take:

Its easier to get a voter that already agrees on the issues, but "thinks Ron Paul can't win".

Its faulty thinking. If everyone could be convinced to switch from that, Ron Paul would win.

That is one of the great things about the precinct walking lists you get when you sign up at Voters.RonPaul.com. Next to most of the names you will see icons which tell you what issue that particular person is most concerned about. :D

[Oliver]

There are thousands upon thousands of undecided voters in all the states that still need to hold primaries. On average, trying to convert someone that supports another candidate takes far more time and effort then convincing an undecided voter.

+1

Forget about converting - there are probably more
than 50% who aren't even registered. And those
people who never were interested in politics and
might get inspired by Ron's message are the ones
who can change the world so they don't have to hope
for the best anymore.

[CelestialRender]

There are thousands upon thousands of undecided voters in all the states that still need to hold primaries. On average, trying to convert someone that supports another candidate takes far more time and effort then convincing an undecided voter.

If trying to convert someone even crosses your mind go to Voters.RonPaul2008.com, sign up to take charge of your precinct, and just look at the hundreds of undecideds you have living right in your neighborhood!

If you doubt me then you probably also need to watch the national campaign's training videos. Look at my signature for links to those.

Precisely. I've been mobilizing all the politically uninformed people that I know, and using it as an education effort for libertarianism to boot.

I now don't know anyone I converse with on a regular basis, who believes in the war on drugs.

[scooter]

I've converted tons of people. There are a lot of people who you think are set in their ways but once you give them the real facts of how things work, they start to come to your side.

But definitely, if you have someone who is blind to everything and just doesn't want to hear it, you're better off somewhere else.

You can easily determine the lost causes and move on in about a minute.

[erin moore]

we need to flood the boards with this. If every one of those 11,000 people had signed up for this program (or even 1,000 of them) this whole Iowa thing would have been totally different.

You believe in Ron Paul not because someone told you about Ron Paul, but because you heard Ron Paul yourself. If you introduce people to him, you and I both know, his message is irresistible. So don't you want to know how better to arm yourself? Are the people on Dogwood Dr. liberal, what about Ponds End Lane? Are there any gun owners? Are you good at talking to pro-lifers? Want to know where they all live? You can get all the meetups to do this (each member) and give each one a job - you talk to the gun owners, I'll talk to the tax people. Hey, Jake is a pastor, he can talk to the Christians.... got it? You dont have to talk to each person on the list, but you could. Or you could call them. Or you could leave the RIGHT slim jim at their house.

SO, the precinct captain program tells you how to talk to people. It tells you who to talk to. It tells you, gosh, everything. This is how it works: go here:

https://www.ronpaul2008.com/voluntee...teer-training/

Then this will happen: they will ask for your name, address, etc. They will then take you to a screen where it will suggest your "precinct" this just means neighborhood. I was the first to sign up in my area (maybe even city) so I could choose any "precinct." I choose mine. This includes my street, and (don't freak out) a total of about 1100 addresses.

So, once you pick the precinct (you can look at maps of the area, there is a link) they then give you all these cool tools. You get a "walking list." This is the MOST AMAZING thing. It is a list of every address and all the people living there, and the issues important to them, and whether or not they are likely to donate to politics, and a scale of conservatism (1 is liberal 100 is conservative) and exclamation points if they have some sphere of influence in the community.

John Thomas 123 Maple St 77 $$ G T
April Thomas 123 Maple St 89 L
Allison Dark 124 Maple St 12 T
Gregg Dark 124 Maple St 25 !!!

so John is more conservative, is known to donate and we know he is interested in gun rights and taxes. April is even more conservative, and abortion (L for Life) is her issue. Allison and Gregg are more liberal (12 and 25) While she votes for lower taxes and he is "influential." (this could mean he owns a business, is on the school board, is in public office, who knows, but if he is converted, he would be a good source of more votes)

So, there is so much information. There are training videos, and at the end of the walking list it actually tells you how many of each slim jim you need for your precinct. Example, mine says this:

Total Slim Jims needed: 1194
Conservative General Slim Jims needed: 92
Independent General .... 554
Gun Owner ... 181
Life and Liberty...252
Fiscal conservativism.....109
border security....0

and then it says, if you cant get the special issue slim jims, to get
357 conservative and 837 independent.

see? I thought my area was highly conservative, but its more complex than that, and I know that my neighbors across the street are 88 and 96 on the scale (pretty conservative) and next door very liberal (12 and 14).

Don't you want to know these things? Its FREE, its ESSENTIAL. If there is ONE Ron Paul supporter who knows about this and is a) not doing it and b) not making sure everyone else does too, shame on you.

[Trassin]

Bump

[Voluntaryist]

I became a Ron Paul supporter thanks to my internet friends. And just today I converted my sister and her boyfriend to vote Ron Paul, and they are lifelong DEMOCRATS! They just re-registered Republican today.

I say that grassroots strength is "trench fighting" in that we convert others: friends, family, etc. We communicate the message on a personal, 1-on-1 level.

Thats how I GOT converted. Thats how I converted my family and other friends. And THATS how GRASSROOTS works.

[TwiLeXia]

Voters.RonPaul.com Doesn't work.

[Trassin]

I became a Ron Paul supporter thanks to my internet friends. And just today I converted my sister and her boyfriend to vote Ron Paul, and they are lifelong DEMOCRATS! They just re-registered Republican today.

I say that grassroots strength is "trench fighting" in that we convert others: friends, family, etc. We communicate the message on a personal, 1-on-1 level.

Thats how I GOT converted. Thats how I converted my family and other friends. And THATS how GRASSROOTS works.

Which is fine. I'm talking about trying to convert someone that is set on voting for someone else.

That is a waste of time when there are hundreds upon hundreds of undecideds throughout all of the precincts. People need to sign up at Voters.RonPaul.com to be precinct captains and work on these undecideds before they even start to worry about how they are going to convert a "insert name" supporter.