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susano
01-04-2008, 03:08 AM
I really think this is critical. Here are some problems I see that must be changed:

Our ads suck. We have some talented people making Youtube videos that are only watched by people already sold on RP. This talent needs to be tapped. The guy who made the Ron Paul Rising video needs to be making TV spots. It was professional, positive, and hit on an emotional level (best thing).

Ron Paul is talking too much about free trade. For me, that is the hardest to swallow. I see a United States that has been gutted by the Department of Commerce, and trade deficits. I want American restored - especially manufacturing. That goes to self suffunciency and sovereignty. We are COMPLETELY missing the message on this. For many people, "free trade" means Nike in China - a despicable country that muders prisoners for their organs.

I believe that Americans want their country back. Ron Paul needs to communicate that he will TAKE it back. Repeating trade, travel, being friends, is not cutting it. We want our manufacturing base back, not better trade deals with the Chinese.

Taco John
01-04-2008, 03:09 AM
*groan*

eLiberty just got done producing some fantastic ads for the official campaign...


Let's keep our eye on the ball... That's what we can do as individuals.

Quit complaining about the campaign. Pick up a pen and write a letter. Joine a meetup group and canvass... Pick up a phone...

slamhead
01-04-2008, 03:11 AM
I really think this is critical. Here are some problems I see that must be changed:

Our ads suck. We have some talented people making Youtube videos that are only watched by people already sold on RP. This talent needs to be tapped. The guy who made the Ron Paul Rising video needs to be making TV spots. It was professional, positive, and hit on an emotional level (best thing).

Ron Paul is talking too much about free trade. For me, that is the hardest to swallow. I see a United States that has been gutted by the Department of Commerce, and trade deficits. I want American restored - especially manufacturing. That goes to self suffunciency and sovereignty. We are COMPLETELY missing the message on this. For many people, "free trade" means Nike in China - a despicable country that muders prisoners for their organs.

I believe that Americans want their country back. Ron Paul needs to communicate that he will TAKE it back. Repeating trade, travel, being friends, is not cutting it. We want our manufacturing base back, not better trade deals with the Chinese.

I totally agree...we need to step this up and make it edgy...target the 18-35. We will never make the evangelicals happy, we will never make the war mongers happy. We need to target the base. Need to ramp this up and do ads that have never been seen in political history. Make people take notice of what is going on here on the internet.

susano
01-04-2008, 03:15 AM
*groan*

eLiberty just got done producing some fantastic ads for the official campaign...


Let's keep our eye on the ball... That's what we can do as individuals.

Quit complaining about the campaign. Pick up a pen and write a letter. Joine a meetup group and canvass... Pick up a phone...


I'm in a Meetup group.

You make a wrong assumption if you think Americans don't care about these issues and we don't need to communicate about them. Try watching Lou Dobbs.

Antonius Stone
01-04-2008, 03:16 AM
theres a better way we can do this

go on photoshop and make your own flyers. Include on these flyers websites or URLs for those inspired videos created by talented RP supporters.

go to kinkos and make about 1,000 copies

go door-to-door knocking and distribute the flyers. Do some talking but dont be too aggressive and let a combination of ronpaul2008.com and the supporter-made videos sell them on RP

bucfish
01-04-2008, 03:19 AM
I think we have OUR best people doing great work but at the same time they should make themselves more available to the campaign and THEY should STEP UP and realize how talented THEY really are!!!

driller80545
01-04-2008, 03:22 AM
I think we have OUR best people doing great work but at the same time they should make themselves more available to the campaign and THEY should STEP UP and realize how talented THEY really are!!!

I have heard these people practically begging the campaign to check out their work. The campaign does not appear to be interested.

susano
01-04-2008, 03:26 AM
theres a better way we can do this

go on photoshop and make your own flyers. Include on these flyers websites or URLs for those inspired videos created by talented RP supporters.

go to kinkos and make about 1,000 copies

go door-to-door knocking and distribute the flyers. Do some talking but dont be too aggressive and let a combination of ronpaul2008.com and the supporter-made videos sell them on RP


I'm not in a position to make the flyers. I'm talking about TV and radio. I would happy to help write some flyers, though.

America is dying. I will give you an example. I have a friend with a ladscaping business. He has a shed full of vintage (50s-70s) garden equipment - trimmers, sprinklers, hand tools, etc. It's ALL made in the USA, ALL heavy duty, made of steel and it ALL still works. NONE of that is made here anymore. ALL of those companies are gone. How many fathers supported their entire families working for those companies? How many kids were put through college because of those jobs? THEY ARE ALL GONE. Talking about more trade doesn't address the America that has been lost. Trading with China has destoryed us. Ron Paul doesn not address this. People want their country, not more money for corporations and cheap shit from Chinese slaves.

Thsi is a VERY important message and I'm not sure that RP or the campaign gets this.

slamhead
01-04-2008, 03:27 AM
I have heard these people practically begging the campaign to check out their work. The campaign does not appear to be interested.

We need to ignore the campaign and start putting up our own ads. Simple as that. Who ever is producing these ads is so far out of touch with what inspires people to join the revolution. Some old political hack is advising the campaign on what ads work and they are wrong. Stop the voice over ads...lame...we need music...power...

susano
01-04-2008, 03:28 AM
I think we have OUR best people doing great work but at the same time they should make themselves more available to the campaign and THEY should STEP UP and realize how talented THEY really are!!!


Peaopl can't get through to the campaign! I have an RP supporting friend with 20 years in marketing who offered her services, for free, and even fed exed a marketing plan to HQ. They didn't so much as acknowledge it!

susano
01-04-2008, 03:32 AM
Please, revisit the power of this message:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRTDynbHVYQ

This is the guy who should be making the ads.

susano
01-04-2008, 03:34 AM
We need to ignore the campaign and start putting up our own ads. Simple as that. Who ever is producing these ads is so far out of touch with what inspires people to join the revolution. Some old political hack is advising the campaign on what ads work and they are wrong. Stop the voice over ads...lame...we need music...power...


The sopporters can make the ads, but the campaign ahs to pay for and run them. That's why we need communication.

slamhead
01-04-2008, 03:42 AM
Please, revisit the power of this message:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRTDynbHVYQ

This is the guy who should be making the ads.

Exactly...we need to blow the pants off of people when they see the ads.

slamhead
01-04-2008, 03:42 AM
The sopporters can make the ads, but the campaign ahs to pay for and run them. That's why we need communication.

No they don't....chip ins.

http://www.operationbroadcastfreedom.com/

susano
01-04-2008, 03:47 AM
No they don't....chip ins.

http://www.operationbroadcastfreedom.com/


I've sent what I can to the campaign. TV ads can cost HUGE bucks. That's what that money is for.

susano
01-04-2008, 03:49 AM
No they don't....chip ins.

http://www.operationbroadcastfreedom.com/

I'll look that link over tomorrow (tired!). Maybe we can get some money from HQ on some of this stuff. Getting through to them is the problem!