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synthetic
01-03-2008, 11:17 PM
Huckabee and Romney going 1 - 2 in Iowa was expected by almost everyone. What's interesting is just 3-4% separated 3rd, 4th and 5th place. That is extremely tight and means the race is wide open for RP.

Things of note I've read in various posts;

Iowa is hostile territory for RP- 70% Bush approval in that state
Evangelicals carried Huck - that "resource" is much more limited in other states
Romney spent like a drunken sailor on Iowa ads

Huckabee, Thompson and McCain do not currently have the funding to compete on a national scale on Super Tuesday.

Romney was bled dry in Iowa which is great news for us.

RPs 10% in Iowa is significant. Very few polls, if any, have showed him in double digits.

Only Romney, Rudy and Paul have war chests large enough to put up a serious fight for the nomination at this point. Out of the three only RP has been building continuous momentum.

Paul took the independent vote and is going to get a lot more in New Hampshire.

Real_CaGeD
01-03-2008, 11:19 PM
woot!

itsnobody
01-03-2008, 11:32 PM
No, it's more like a 2-way tie between Thompson and McCain, Ron Paul is trailing them by thousands of votes

Joe3113
01-03-2008, 11:35 PM
yeah wooo

Real_CaGeD
01-03-2008, 11:36 PM
by 3 % nobody, in NEOCON land.

webber53
01-03-2008, 11:36 PM
Huckabee and Romney going 1 - 2 in Iowa was expected by almost everyone. What's interesting is just 3-4% separated 3rd, 4th and 5th place. That is extremely tight and means the race is wide open for RP.

Things of note I've read in various posts;

Iowa is hostile territory for RP- 70% Bush approval in that state
Evangelicals carried Huck - that "resource" is much more limited in other states
Romney spent like a drunken sailor on Iowa ads

Huckabee, Thompson and McCain do not currently have the funding to compete on a national scale on Super Tuesday.

Romney was bled dry in Iowa which is great news for us.

RPs 10% in Iowa is significant. Very few polls, if any, have showed him in double digits.

Only Romney, Rudy and Paul have war chests large enough to put up a serious fight for the nomination at this point. Out of the three only RP has been building continuous momentum.

Paul took the independent vote and is going to get a lot more in New Hampshire.

RIGHT ON!

dvictr
01-03-2008, 11:37 PM
PEOPLE.

RON PAUL an unknown congressmen from Texas in 3 months was able to gather 10% of the vote in the first in the nation caucus... The logical reasoning suggests that at the very LEAST 10% - 20% of republicans in the country are voting for a clear change in the GOP establishment. The question we have today is how many Ron Paul supporters will cast a ballot for a return to the original Republican party and denouce the neo-conservatives.

Every vote cast by Republican primary voters through super tuesday is a preverbial registration of a lost republican if RON PAUL does not get the nomination...

can the Republican party really aford to lose 15-25 million voters?


RON PAUL is a clear republican ... "Bring the party back to it's roots"


read the wiki article on the party and ask yourself who best represents these issues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)


National defense and security
The Republican Party has always advocated a strong national defense; however, up until recently they tended to disapprove of interventionist foreign policy actions. Republicans opposed Woodrow Wilson's intervention in World War I and his subsequent attempt to create the League of Nations. Many Republicans opposed the creation of NATO. Even in the 1990s, although George H.W. Bush orchestrated the Gulf War, Republicans opposed the intervention of the United States in Somalia and the Balkans. However, in 2000, George W. Bush ran on a platform that opposed these types of involvement in foreign conflicts.

Today, there has been unilateralism on issues of national security, believing in the ability and right of the United States to act without external or international support in its own self-interest. In general, Republican defense and international thinking is heavily influenced by the theories of neorealism and realism, characterizing the conflicts between nations as great struggles between faceless forces of international structure, as opposed to the result of individual leaders, their ideas, and their actions. The realist school's influence shows in Reagan's Evil Empire stance on the Soviet Union and George W. Bush's Axis of Evil.


Economic policies
Republicans emphasize the role of corporate and personal decision making in fostering economic prosperity. They favor free-market policies supporting business, economic liberalism, more economic freedom, and limited regulation. A leading economic theory advocated by modern Republicans is supply-side economics. Some fiscal policies influenced by this theory were popularly known as "Reaganomics," a term popularized during the Presidential administrations of Ronald Reagan. This theory holds that reduced income tax rates increase GDP growth and thereby generate the same or more revenue for the government from the smaller tax on the extra growth. This belief is reflected, in part, by the party's long-term advocacy of tax cuts, a major Republican theme since the 1920s. Republicans believe that a series of income tax cuts since 2001 have bolstered the economy.[9] Many Republicans consider the income tax system to be inherently inefficient and oppose graduated tax rates, which they believe are unfairly targeted at those who create jobs and wealth. They believe private spending is usually more efficient than government spending.




There are still clear choices in this election...


2nd amendment
abortion
decreasing federal spending
immigration
less taxation


these are the issue we need to be ephasizing... no other GOP candidate has the consistency on these topics... leave out the more "controversial" subjects... we need the moderate vote

a winning strategy is to propel Ron Paul into the center because the MSM is making him out to be an extremist. The reality is that Ron Paul actually has practical solutions to the biggest problems this country faces.

RON PAUL 2008

itsnobody
01-03-2008, 11:37 PM
by 3 % nobody, in NEOCON land.

You can't say it's a 3-way tie by that big a margin, it's more like a 2-way tie between McCain and Thompson and Ron Paul trailing near behind

nc4rp
01-03-2008, 11:38 PM
touche

Highstreet
01-03-2008, 11:39 PM
Huckabee and Romney going 1 - 2 in Iowa was expected by almost everyone. What's interesting is just 3-4% separated 3rd, 4th and 5th place. That is extremely tight and means the race is wide open for RP.

Things of note I've read in various posts;

Iowa is hostile territory for RP- 70% Bush approval in that state
Evangelicals carried Huck - that "resource" is much more limited in other states
Romney spent like a drunken sailor on Iowa ads

Huckabee, Thompson and McCain do not currently have the funding to compete on a national scale on Super Tuesday.

Romney was bled dry in Iowa which is great news for us.

RPs 10% in Iowa is significant. Very few polls, if any, have showed him in double digits.

Only Romney, Rudy and Paul have war chests large enough to put up a serious fight for the nomination at this point. Out of the three only RP has been building continuous momentum.

Paul took the independent vote and is going to get a lot more in New Hampshire.

Bump

synthetic
01-04-2008, 12:05 AM
You can't say it's a 3-way tie by that big a margin

I guess we disagree on what a big margin is. 3% seperating 3 candidates is just about as tight as it gets.

It was the same for the democrats tonight. On CNN Wolf declared Obama a "huge" winner. Well he won but all the top democrats were in the 30% range. Was it really a "huge" win with Obama, Hillary and Edwards all taking about 30%?

Mark
01-04-2008, 12:56 AM
You can't say it's a 3-way tie by that big a margin, it's more like a 2-way tie between McCain and Thompson and Ron Paul trailing near behind

You sir are now useless to me and the campaign - I think I'll just start ignoring people who are such losers
that they find something to be negative about in the face of victory.

Mark
01-04-2008, 12:57 AM
Huckabee and Romney going 1 - 2 in Iowa was expected by almost everyone. What's interesting is just 3-4% separated 3rd, 4th and 5th place. That is extremely tight and means the race is wide open for RP.

Things of note I've read in various posts;

Iowa is hostile territory for RP- 70% Bush approval in that state
Evangelicals carried Huck - that "resource" is much more limited in other states
Romney spent like a drunken sailor on Iowa ads

Huckabee, Thompson and McCain do not currently have the funding to compete on a national scale on Super Tuesday.

Romney was bled dry in Iowa which is great news for us.

RPs 10% in Iowa is significant. Very few polls, if any, have showed him in double digits.

Only Romney, Rudy and Paul have war chests large enough to put up a serious fight for the nomination at this point. Out of the three only RP has been building continuous momentum.

Paul took the independent vote and is going to get a lot more in New Hampshire.


PREACH IT - way to show 'em how a WINNER thinks!