RonPaul.com is available!

[stevepdx]

I am newbie here, so Moderators, please let me know if this post is belongs in another forum.

A friend of mine owns the domain name RonPaul.com and would be interested in selling it if he can get a fair price.

My friend is not a cybersquatter, his name happens to be Ron Paul too! My friend has owned ronpaul.com for many years.

www.ronpaul.com gets thousands of visitors per day, and we get lots of misaddressed email from campaign supporters and insiders.

I own an Internet consulting firm and have full control of the name; so, the transfer can happen very quickly.

Please contact me ASAP if interested as we are considering other offers.

[ronpaulitician]

Other offers?

I think the campaign has previously tried to secure this domain name, but deemed the price too high.

[Primbs]

This was discussed a long time ago. It is almost too late now. Your friend may be out of luck. If he had come to an agreement last summer, your friend might be doing very well now.

[RonPaulVolunteer]

GIVE it to the campaign please.

[krott5333]

why dont you just redirect it to the campaign.

[tonyTheBest]

$5000. Take it or leave it.

[GHoeberX]

GIVE it to the campaign please.

Yeah well; I guess the campaign doesn't want to buy it for their price. Perhaps he's now trying to get a supporter to pay a huge amount of money for the domain?

[homah]

Wasn't this guy asking for something like $150,000 a few weeks ago?

[ConstitutionGal]

If the owner hadn't gotten so greedy, he could have sold it months ago. Now, I doubt the campaign or the grassroots will be interested.

[ChooseLiberty]

Why not make a show of good faith an post a link to RonPaul2008.com and some "are you looking for" text?

Or even redirect the site.

[Rebel Resource]

At least tell him to put a link to the official site, that's common courtesy right?

[rdenner]

Suck on it cyber squatter..

Problem with being too greedy!!!

lol

[GHoeberX]

Wasn't this guy asking for something like $150,000 a few weeks ago?

If I were part of the campaign, I would never do that either.

Most people use google to find something on 'Ron Paul' on the internet, and this domain is nowhere near the top-results.


At least tell him to put a link to the official site, that's common courtesy right?

I think he wants money for it :)

[RobS]

Wasn't this guy asking for something like $150,000 a few weeks ago?

Yeah, lol. This isn't something the grassroots is going to do. If you offer the domain for like under $25,000 they might do it, but Ron won't be spending 150,000 on a domain name.

[jake]

hey, he does rightfully own the domain, however a fair price would be <$5000 no doubt. maybe even loan the domain?

[ChooseLiberty]

Yep. He's seen all the money spent on the blimp, etc. and now wants in.

Screw it.

If he even wants consideration he should post a link to RonPaul2008.



Yeah well; I guess the campaign doesn't want to buy it for their price. Perhaps he's now trying to get a supporter to pay a huge amount of money for the domain?

[itshappening]

yeah you need to post a link saying:-

"This is not the congressman Ron Paul, to visit his site go to www.ronpaul2008.com"

as for selling it, the campaign should definitely be interested, you need to contact them and try and speak with them but understand they won't be ripped off

[Perry]

I am newbie here, so Moderators, please let me know if this post is belongs in another forum.

A friend of mine owns the domain name RonPaul.com and would be interested in selling it if he can get a fair price.

My friend is not a cybersquatter, his name happens to be Ron Paul too! My friend has owned ronpaul.com for many years.

www.ronpaul.com gets thousands of visitors per day, and we get lots of misaddressed email from campaign supporters and insiders.

I own an Internet consulting firm and have full control of the name; so, the transfer can happen very quickly.

Please contact me ASAP if interested as we are considering other offers.

Ron Paul is not in this for a profit. A fair price would be $<$5000 with an agreement to GIVE BACK the website after one year. Ron Paul is not interested in buying his way into the white house.
If you're looking for a politician get get rich off of, Ron Paul is not your man. He will treat your domain with respect.

[Mark Rushmore]

If the guy were smart he'd try and lease it out for the duration of the campaign, considering they can't come to an agreement on a sale price.

[UtahApocalypse]

First post and you want money? LMAO don't think the grassroots campaign is that gullible. You had your chance months ago but blew it.

[Arklatex]

donate it

[Rebel Resource]

It gets thousands of hits a day, and there's no kind of advert or promotion? Is your friend a bit behind the times? Certainly not a great business mind if he couldn't make a deal with RP08.

[pinkmandy]

This just disgusts me. Sell it to Hillary, she likes wasting money.

[Korey Kaczynski]

If the owner hadn't gotten so greedy, he could have sold it months ago. Now, I doubt the campaign or the grassroots will be interested.

Not much faith in winning the primaries, eh? :(

[quantized]

too late now. we are used to the url as it is now.

[Rebel Resource]

One things for certain: anyone this hungry for $ could sell it to a political enemy.

[itshappening]

does your friend think the thousands of people visiting want to see HIS resume? he should have had a link up MONTHS ago but he has refused! that is just unacceptable

[Airborn]

Why don't you reseach Ron Paul's message, then you might want to give it to the campaign, or sell it reasonable?

[ghemminger]

I just pm'd u a Deal to make this work - on a redirect to the grassroots...Call me

[hueylong]

This guy just wants to rip off the revolution. A respectful email inquiring about the price was replied with a set of conditions before 'negotiating'.

Keep it.

[Rebel Resource]

I just pm'd u a Deal to make this work - on a redirect to the grassroots...Call me

Nice one.....this would be great for a "Top 10 grassroots chip-ins"

[newbitech]

dude you got your phone number and address on that page. talk about having a sack. you might be interested in supporting Ron Paul and DONATING the domain to the cause.

[Tidewise]

I think of all the sacrifices and efforts so many of us on this board have made, and this guy wants money and won't even give the courtesy of a redirect?

Dude, pull your head out of your ass and take a look at what is happening to your country and then donate your domain to the Revolution. Otherwise hunker down in your little word and count your precious Federal Reserve notes as they deteriorate in your greedy paws.

Jeez.

[mport1]

I think the campaign should buy it and then redirect to their site.

[stevepdx]

1) This thread is our first post ever on RonPaulForums.com. We have never publicly offered the name for sale, although we are considering sending it to auction.

2) We tried to contact the campaign, but they were largely non-responsive. I don't even have a contact at the campaign that I can talk to about the matter.

3) Honestly, I don't think the campaign understands the value of the name to them. The campaign should listen to its own younger-generation Internet media experts. Besides the thousands of extra visitors they would get each day, Ron Paul the candidate would acquire an asset that would be part of the Ron Paul movement -- a much better investment than a 1-time WSJ spread IMHO.

3) We are not looking for an outrageous amount of money, just a fair price.

4) I know a thing or two about domain names, and I honestly think that the ROI would be well justified given the price.

5) I ask you to suspend moral judgment on this issue, and stop the personal attacks. I honestly think that reflects poorly on Ron Paul the candidate if his grass roots supporters jump to conclusions and moralizing. The owner of the domain name is not a cybersquatter, his name is Ron Paul too! The posts that say the owner of the name has a moral obligation to do any redirects are absurd.

This domain name would be valuable for the candidate or the movement or JibJab too I suppose. Some of those interested are looking to use it for "media" purposes.

Thank you to those who have PM'ed me.

[homah]

I think the campaign should buy it and then redirect to their site.

...not if the guy still wants six figures for it. it's just not worth that much.

as people have said, if you "google ron paul" the first link is to ronpaul2008.com. also, if someone manually types in ronpaul.com and ends up at this guy's website, they are going to go straight to google to find the real site.

[Rebel Resource]

At least it was offered here first. And the ultra-capitalists you lot are, I'm surprised you are advocating anything else than the owner securing the maximum profit.

I'm a socialist, by the way.

[RonPaulblican]

If the guy were smart he'd try and lease it out for the duration of the campaign, considering they can't come to an agreement on a sale price. Exactly. I was thinking the same thing. Just lease it.

[eric_cartman]

so how much are you asking for now?

[homah]

At least it was offered here first. And the ultra-capitalists you lot are, I'm surprised you are advocating anything else than the owner securing the maximum profit.

I'm a socialist, by the way.

i don't think most people have a problem with him trying to profit, but think that he is shooting himself in the foot by asking for so much money. i guess only time will tell.

[JordanL]

1) This thread is our first post ever on RonPaulForums.com. We have never publicly offered the name for sale, although we are considering sending it to auction.

2) We tried to contact the campaign, but they were largely non-responsive. I don't even have a contact at the campaign that I can talk to about the matter.

3) Honestly, I don't think the campaign understands the value of the name to them. The campaign should listen to its own younger-generation Internet media experts. Besides the thousands of extra visitors they would get each day, Ron Paul the candidate would acquire an asset that would be part of the Ron Paul movement -- a much better investment than a 1-time WSJ spread IMHO.

3) We are not looking for an outrageous amount of money, just a fair price.

4) I know a thing or two about domain names, and I honestly think that the ROI would be well justified given the price.

5) I ask you to suspend moral judgment on this issue, and stop the personal attacks. I honestly think that reflects poorly on Ron Paul the candidate if his grass roots supporters jump to conclusions and moralizing. The owner of the domain name is not a cybersquatter, his name is Ron Paul too! The posts that say the owner of the name has a moral obligation to do any redirects are absurd.

This domain name would be valuable for the candidate or the movement or JibJab too I suppose. Some of those interested are looking to use it for "media" purposes.

Thank you to those who have PM'ed me.

Hmmm... misinformation.

Your "friend" made an offer of six figures and the grassroots/campaign told him where to shove that price.

Now... the domain stands to lose almost all of it's time-value of money. No wonder you want to sell. ;)

[newbitech]

1) This thread is our first post ever on RonPaulForums.com. We have never publicly offered the name for sale, although we are considering sending it to auction.

2) We tried to contact the campaign, but they were largely non-responsive. I don't even have a contact at the campaign that I can talk to about the matter.

3) Honestly, I don't think the campaign understands the value of the name to them. The campaign should listen to its own younger-generation Internet media experts. Besides the thousands of extra visitors they would get each day, Ron Paul the candidate would acquire an asset that would be part of the Ron Paul movement -- a much better investment than a 1-time WSJ spread IMHO.

3) We are not looking for an outrageous amount of money, just a fair price.

4) I know a thing or two about domain names, and I honestly think that the ROI would be well justified given the price.

5) I ask you to suspend moral judgment on this issue, and stop the personal attacks. I honestly think that reflects poorly on Ron Paul the candidate if his grass roots supporters jump to conclusions and moralizing. The owner of the domain name is not a cybersquatter, his name is Ron Paul too! The posts that say the owner of the name has a moral obligation to do any redirects are absurd.

This domain name would be valuable for the candidate or the movement or JibJab too I suppose. Some of those interested are looking to use it for "media" purposes.

Thank you to those who have PM'ed me.

Steve, with all due respect this is a grassroots organizational forum not a classified for Ron Paul. Good luck selling your name. But seriously, do you really want to post your personal information on your site and then try to sell it to the largest grassroots campaign in political history?

[ConstitutionGal]

Not much faith in winning the primaries, eh? :(

I have every faith in winning the primaries but, let's face the truth here, the ONLY reason that guy's domain gets any hits is from folks just assuming that RonPaul.com is the official site. As soon as they see that it's not, they hit Google and - voila' - they find the real one. If the site's owner hadn't decided he could get six figures for the domain a couple of months ago, everyone MIGHT be more willing to enter negotiations now. As it stands, let him keep it. The campaign and the grassroots have moved on and are doing fine with it.

[slantedview]

Why not make a show of good faith an post a link to RonPaul2008.com and some "are you looking for" text?

Or even redirect the site.

yep. might as well make good use of it for now and do this.

[jake]

Nice one.....this would be great for a "Top 10 grassroots chip-ins"

phenomenal idea!

[sherpah23]

Who made the site worth anything? Congressman Dr. Ron Paul. Not Ron Paul the from Ron Paul consulting service... 503-407-8768 2770 NW Upshur, Portland OR 97210.

If Dr. Paul were not running for office this domain would be worth - maybe 20 bucks. You should be thanking him for getting you alot of traffic, and increasing its value. Even with company names of domain names - many court cases have shown that anything above 10k is usually ruled cyber squating etc. If you want to sell it for a fair price then fine, if you want to gouge the Revolution then please move on.

[Tidewise]

Honestly, I don't think the campaign understands the value of the name to them.

Uhhh ... Ron Paul (the presidential candidate) raised $20M in the last three months and his campaign doesn't understand the value? I don't think so.



3) We are not looking for an outrageous amount of money, just a fair price.

The people on this board are looking for ways to preserve liberty in the United States of America. Good luck scrounging for your FRNs.



4) I know a thing or two about domain names, and I honestly think that the ROI would be well justified given the price.


So do I. $20,000,000+ last quarter says you are wrong.



5) The posts that say the owner of the name has a moral obligation to do any redirects are absurd.


Not a moral obligation. A patriotic one. Hell, even a sense of self-interest would lead him to that conclusion.


...not if the guy still wants six figures for it. it's just not worth that much.

as people have said, if you "google ron paul" the first link is to ronpaul2008.com. also, if someone manually types in ronpaul.com and ends up at this guy's website, they are going to go straight to google to find the real site.

Ding Ding. QFT.

[Ozwest]

stevepdx,

Looks to me like you've got two potential clients.

The campaign seems non-plussed, so lets narrow that down to one.

It might not be a good idea to conduct negotiations on this forum, and expect civility , with several hundred on-lookers, especially if you decide to wag your finger at us.

[Airborn]

if you haven't figured out how to make money without selling that site, then hmm wow.

[Tronchaser]

Wouldn't Ron Paul say "Let the market decide what the value of it is!"... and the people have spoken. You are asking too much for it.

Viva la Free Market! :)

[DRV45N05]

i don't think most people have a problem with him trying to profit, but think that he is shooting himself in the foot by asking for so much money. i guess only time will tell.

And that guy seems to not understand what free market economics is all about. It's not just about someone trying to secure maximum profit; it's about people being willing to pay the price that corresponds to what he views as maximum profit. It's all about subjective valuation.

[newbitech]

lets think for a minute what we could do with ronpaul.com

hmmm redirect it to the official campaign site.

think about it, all the material that has been created, all the websites out there all point back to ronpaul2008.com

I do not think its even worth $5,000 now simply because it will do what all these other sites do and redirect to ronpaul2008.com

I'd say the domain is worth maybe $2,300 bucks tops. there is nothing the domain can do that is not already being done for free by google search.

So, if you promise to donate $2,300 bucks to Ron Paul's campaign, I will broker a deal for your domain for $4,600 bucks. Thats my offer.

[ChooseLiberty]

The market has already decided -

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/ronpaul2008.com?site0=ronpaul2008.com&site1=ronpaulforums.com&site2=ronpaul.com&y=r&z=0&h=400&w=700&range=3m&size=Large

[ZandarKoad]

if you haven't figured out how to make money without selling that site, then hmm wow.

No freaking kidding... If nothing else, make it a link destination yourself for Ron Paul supporters, and it will become a MAJOR TRAFFIC HUB. If you can't figure out how to turn that kind of traffic into serious Federal Reserve Notes, then maybe you should just go Amish.

[ronpaul.in]

PM me with your asking price or pricing@aol.com

[Ethek]

www.dnsCoop.com has the value just under $2,000


Ronpaul2008.com has a value of a little under $5,000,000


The forums are about $30,000 despite the large amount of traffic. I think its way more than that but dnscoop counts outside linkage. Since media doesn't like to highlight us directly but I'd say the forums are worth another 100mil to the campaign. Thats just me though :P

[JMann]

I didn't know that RP was having difficulty with people finding him online. I will say that if Paul does win the nomination or seeks and Independent bid he may want to get that site so it doesn't get bought up by Hill, O! or Johnny's folks for smearing Dr. Paul.

[Vladk1000]

I looked at the WHOIS for ronpaul.com and this is what I found:

http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=ronpaul&tld=com

The name of the guy who registered the domain name is Tom Paul. :confused: It also says he owns popart.com.

Let's search for "Tom Paul" on popart.com:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+%22tom+paul%22+site%3Apopart.com&btnG=Google+Search

507 results

Now let's search for "Ron Paul":

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+%22ron+paul%22+site%3Apopart.com&btnG=Google+Search

0 results

Domain squatter. :rolleyes:

[Paulbot_9876]

ronpaul2008.com is working just fine.........people can find rp quite easy on the web.....

[gippis]

To the OP. I've sent you a PM requesting some more information. I'm currently waiting for a response.

[OptionsTrader]

Hmmm... misinformation.

Your "friend" made an offer of six figures and the grassroots/campaign told him where to shove that price.

Now... the domain stands to lose almost all of it's time-value of money. No wonder you want to sell. ;)

+1

Bad business sense.

[ronpaul_prophet]

seriously. methinks this sounds like someone trying to scame a few grand out of someone somewhere, at worst. AT BEST they are domain squatters, unless they donate the site or at least link up.

[Northwoods]

5) I ask you to suspend moral judgment on this issue, and stop the personal attacks. I honestly think that reflects poorly on Ron Paul the candidate if his grass roots supporters jump to conclusions and moralizing. The owner of the domain name is not a cybersquatter, his name is Ron Paul too! The posts that say the owner of the name has a moral obligation to do any redirects are absurd.


I honestly think you are well intentioned but a bit delusional (perhaps naive). You sound like you are trying to extort money from the grassroots.

Hueylong is a good guy; if he says that this guy is playing games I would believe him and not waste time with this.

[OptionsTrader]

stevepdx,

Looks to me like you've got two potential clients.

The campaign seems non-plussed, so lets narrow that down to one.

It might not be a good idea to conduct negotiations on this forum, and expect civility , with several hundred on-lookers, especially if you decide to wag your finger at us.

+1

[Ozwest]

I didn't know that RP was having difficulty with people finding him online. I will say that if Paul does win the nomination or seeks and Independent bid he may want to get that site so it doesn't get bought up by Hill, O! or Johnny's folks for smearing Dr. Paul.
Those kind of shennanigans would be easily exposed, and would bite purpotrators in the ass.

[Ethek]

It does look like ronpaul2012 is taken, shame.

[OptionsTrader]

Ebay it, donate it, or go away.

[Mort]

Getting Ronpaul.com may help his internet presence in a miniscule way. However, we don't have much upside left in our internet presence.
We already dominate other candidates in that area. The domain is not worth much to us.
You mentioned a reasonable price. I would like to know the price you ask for my own entertainment.

[Rebel Resource]

Looking at the chart, the name would add a nice bump to a shortlist of grassroots chip-ins and this forum also.

Might be worth organising a chip-in for the domain, since it can only get bigger.

[scooter]

You alll are correct about the domain not being that important to the present campaign, however, in the wrong hands the domain could become pretty harmful.

[me3]

I will offer 74 Fiat FRNs NOW!

[GHoeberX]

You alll are correct about the domain not being that important to the present campaign, however, in the wrong hands the domain could become pretty harmful.

I don't think so. It would soon turn into our advantage as well. "Hillary supporters hijack RonPaul.com" would be the newsheadlines. Free publicity again.

[newbitech]

i noticed in the alexa chart that the domain did get a small bump on Nov. 5th and then again on Dec. 16th.

i think that if anyone put up a negative Ron Paul Site, especially using RonPaul.com, they would get slammed out of existence.

[Mort]

I don't think so. It would soon turn into our advantage as well. "Hillary supporters hijack RonPaul.com" would be the newsheadlines. Free publicity again.

Good point.

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

I don't think we should give this guy a hard time. He's just being a capitalist! :)

Good luck.

[JMann]

Those kind of shennanigans would be easily exposed, and would bite purpotrators in the ass.

Only if reported and I wouldn't count on the traditional media to point this out and we don't know if the web is far enough along to make the difference in spreading that information in a general election. Just a thought but I wouldn't want that domain to be in the hands of the enemy during the summer of aught eight.

[yongrel]

1) This thread is our first post ever on RonPaulForums.com. We have never publicly offered the name for sale, although we are considering sending it to auction.

2) We tried to contact the campaign, but they were largely non-responsive. I don't even have a contact at the campaign that I can talk to about the matter.

3) Honestly, I don't think the campaign understands the value of the name to them. The campaign should listen to its own younger-generation Internet media experts. Besides the thousands of extra visitors they would get each day, Ron Paul the candidate would acquire an asset that would be part of the Ron Paul movement -- a much better investment than a 1-time WSJ spread IMHO.

3) We are not looking for an outrageous amount of money, just a fair price.

4) I know a thing or two about domain names, and I honestly think that the ROI would be well justified given the price.

5) I ask you to suspend moral judgment on this issue, and stop the personal attacks. I honestly think that reflects poorly on Ron Paul the candidate if his grass roots supporters jump to conclusions and moralizing. The owner of the domain name is not a cybersquatter, his name is Ron Paul too! The posts that say the owner of the name has a moral obligation to do any redirects are absurd.

This domain name would be valuable for the candidate or the movement or JibJab too I suppose. Some of those interested are looking to use it for "media" purposes.

Thank you to those who have PM'ed me.

A fair price? Last time I heard, the two prices that you had offered were 10k (May-ish) and 150k (recently).

I too know a few things about websites, and those are not fair prices. That is oppurtunism.

[yongrel]

I think the money that would go towards buying this domain name would be better spent elsewhere...

*cough*Operation Live Free or Die*cough*

[ashlux]

The guy who ran firefox.com posted a small link "Are you looking for Mozilla Firefox?" with a Firefox logo at the top. http://web.archive.org/web/20040908033343/http://www.firefox.com/ (Firefox.com is now controlled my Mozilla).

Your friend should do something similar.

[nc4rp]

doh, concern about profitting while liberty is burning. id call that gouging. he should just loan it to them till after the election.

[JohnCrabtree]

I personally think the domain name is not worth much at all thanks to google.

The main reason I support Ron Paul is property rights issues. He is the only candidate who truly believes that the Kelo decision needs to be overturned.

As the domain name is private property, just as much as your house is your property he can do so as he please. I think it would be absurd for him to put a link up to RonPaul2008.com when he wants to SELL the domain name to the Ron Paul movement.

Its the same concept of a proplem I had with trying to sell a piece of property. The only people who wanted it were the rich neighbors, and they wanted it for a parking lot, Had I let them park their for free, they would have never bought it.

So My two cents is that he should use the domain name as he wishes, and should probably auction it off. I think he would be a fool not to take up an offer of over $1,000 but thats my opinion. Set up an auction and let the market decide.

[Jeremy]

Well I don't know about you, but I wouldn't charge people to participate in a movement to save America.

[Wilkero]

I'm fine with them trying to sell it. But given Dr. Paul's commanding presence on the internet, I think it's a bit condescending of them to preach to us about how much the campaign could benefit from having this site.

[rooteroa]

If your friend had any brains that site would have had adsense running on it for the past years. He'd be raking in the money.

[Mark]

I just bought RonPaul.cc less than a month ago for about $18 - close enough for me

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: RONPAUL.CC
Created on: 07-Dec-07

If I could still get RonPaul.cc after all this time I don't think the demand for .com is that great anymore - lost opportunity I would imagine

[tboss]

This post upsets me. I remember this months ago. It's a little late for the Primaries when it really was needed.

[DealzOnWheelz]

This guy is a clown and anyone that even entertains buying this domain for a "FAIR" price is also a clown

RON PAUL DOMINATES THE WEB

We don't need this guys pansy 1000 hits site

RPF's has more than 1000 people on it at just about any given time

[rfbz]

I am newbie here, so Moderators, please let me know if this post is belongs in another forum.

A friend of mine owns the domain name RonPaul.com and would be interested in selling it if he can get a fair price.

My friend is not a cybersquatter, his name happens to be Ron Paul too! My friend has owned ronpaul.com for many years.

www.ronpaul.com gets thousands of visitors per day, and we get lots of misaddressed email from campaign supporters and insiders.

I own an Internet consulting firm and have full control of the name; so, the transfer can happen very quickly.

Please contact me ASAP if interested as we are considering other offers.



That domain is worthless, Ronpaul2008.com is already established. I don't think anyone should be chipping in to pay this guy for a domain he bought for $7. Your friend IS a cybersquater. As a matter of fact, there are cybersquatting laws and your friend might actually have to give up the domain to the campaign for free if they decided to peruse that.

[Rebel Resource]

This guy is a clown and anyone that even entertains buying this domain for a "FAIR" price is also a clown

RON PAUL DOMINATES THE WEB

We don't need this guys pansy 1000 hits site

RPF's has more than 1000 people on it at just about any given time

It's OK not having it while it isn't in the hands of a neocon.

[burningfur]

ronpaul.com is not worth the 150,000 or whatever this guy is trying to hawk for it.

It's on the 3rd page on google, there are ARTICLES higher than that page.

Besides, everyone knows to go to a search engine to find something, people aren't just going to give up because they see a singular site that is not related to Ron Paul.

This thread should be canned.

[Ninja Homer]

It's a free market, and your friend can do whatever he wants. Since his name is Ron Paul, it isn't cybersquatting, however if the domain is purchased by somebody that uses it to defame Dr. Ron Paul the candidate in any way, it would be cybersquatting. The campaign could get the domain very easily and for very cheap. This would be a bad investment for anybody looking at buying it, so it probably won't sell for much money.

The best bet would to either offer it to the campaign at a fair value, or just put a little info about Dr. Paul with a link to ronpaul2008.com, then set up AdWords for the site. You'd probably make some decent money with the AdWords if it's getting that much traffic.

[JordanL]

Steve, I think the biggest problem your "friend" has is that he snubbed the entire process by being incredibly greedy: he demanded payment for a correction link at the bottom of the page, for those who accidentally came there.

That tainted the whole thing. After that, I think your "friend" would have had a tough time finding anyone amicable to his "offers".

[pinkmandy]

It's OK not having it while it isn't in the hands of a neocon.


That kind of smear attack would push Paul to the top! Taking his name and smearing him under false pretenses? I almost wish they would- it would only benefit Paul and completely discredit the Neocons behind that movement. :D

[Danny]

I don't understand why everyone is so upset that this guy is trying to sell his domain name. Perhaps this forum isn't the appropriate place to solicit offers, but how can a group of Ron Paul supporters bash this guy as a scammer or an extortionist? Some have even suggested the government declare him a "cybersquatter" and confiscate his property!

Guys, the free market works! If the domain isn't worth what he is asking, then he simply will have to lower his price or hang on to it.

[mbrebstock]

at this point this domain is almost useless. i think nobody with internet is not able to find ronpaul2008.com

[asheville4paul]

"I don't understand why everyone is so upset that this guy is trying to sell his domain name. Perhaps this forum isn't the appropriate place to solicit offers, but how can a group of Ron Paul supporters bash this guy as a scammer or an extortionist? Some have even suggested the government declare him a "cybersquatter" and confiscate his property!

Guys, the free market works! If the domain isn't worth what he is asking, then he simply will have to lower his price or hang on to it."

+1000

[madcat033]

1)
5) I ask you to suspend moral judgment on this issue, and stop the personal attacks. I honestly think that reflects poorly on Ron Paul the candidate if his grass roots supporters jump to conclusions and moralizing. The owner of the domain name is not a cybersquatter, his name is Ron Paul too! The posts that say the owner of the name has a moral obligation to do any redirects are absurd.



He is essentially a cybersquatter. You say he has had it for years and he has done NOTHING with it. He is just a lucky cybersquatter, in that his name is Ron Paul so he can justify keeping it. Whatever dude, stop trying to exploit us and go away. We don't need your domain.

[unloud]

To clarify, we'd love your friend's domain and we understand his desire to get money for it, there is however several issues:

1) It seems your friend is demanding too much
2) His site is essentially worthless because people use search engines to find info and he is buried in page 5
3) ronpaul2008 is already established and well advertised.

So, we would love the domain, but the price is too steep, and if that is a problem with your friend I suggest he finds another buyer (I heard Hillary has cash)

[stevepdx]

I don't know how anyone can assume "the price is too steep" or somehow six-figures, as that is not the case. We have never offered the name for public sale before.

For those of you who said it is now "too late," I ask you is the Ron Paul campaign over? Is the Revolution over? Why is RonPaulForums.com still being used then?

For those of you who incorrectly assume that the thousands of people who visit ronpaul.com or email to ron(at)ronpaul.com are 100% making it to ronpaul2008.com, you have something to learn about the way people use the Internet!

If anyone has any suggestions on how I should handle this, please PM me. Is ebay the best auction site for domains like this?

I appreciate the responses we have received from those of you who understand free markets and the legal definition of cybersquatting, as clearly, we are here in good faith.

If we initiate a dialogue, and if you get to know me, and check out my background, you will see that I am just trying to do the right thing. I am helping a true friend.

I will also let this thread die and cease posting here, if I don't get any further responses.

[Airborn]

I don't know how anyone can assume "the price is too steep" or somehow six-figures, as that is not the case. We have never offered the name for public sale before.

For those of you who said it is now "too late," I ask you is the Ron Paul campaign over? Is the Revolution over? Why is RonPaulForums.com still being used then?

For those of you who incorrectly assume that the thousands of people who visit ronpaul.com or email to ron@ronpaul.com are 100% making it to ronpaul2008.com, you have something to learn about the way people use the Internet!

If anyone has any suggestions on how I should handle this, please PM me. Is ebay the best auction site for domains like this?

I appreciate the responses we have received from those of you who understand free markets and the legal definition of cybersquatting, as clearly we are hear in good faith.

If we initiate a dialogue, and if you get to know me, and check out my background, you will see that I am just trying to do the right. I am helping a true friend.

I will also let this thread die and cease posting here, if I don't get any further responses.

I would say you could get a good bit for it on ebay

[DealzOnWheelz]

I don't know how anyone can assume "the price is too steep" or somehow six-figures, as that is not the case. We have never offered the name for public sale before.

For those of you who said it is now "too late," I ask you is the Ron Paul campaign over? Is the Revolution over? Why is RonPaulForums.com still being used then?

For those of you who incorrectly assume that the thousands of people who visit ronpaul.com or email to ron@ronpaul.com are 100% making it to ronpaul2008.com, you have something to learn about the way people use the Internet!

If anyone has any suggestions on how I should handle this, please PM me. Is ebay the best auction site for domains like this?

I appreciate the responses we have received from those of you who understand free markets and the legal definition of cybersquatting, as clearly we are hear in good faith.

If we initiate a dialogue, and if you get to know me, and check out my background, you will see that I am just trying to do the right. I am helping a true friend.

I will also let this thread die and cease posting here, if I don't get any further responses.



The best suggestion would be for you to specifically list the price your putting on it HERE on the forums, I don't know why your being so secretive "I don't know how anyone can assume "the price is too steep" or somehow six-figures, as that is not the case. We have never offered the name for public sale before."

Yet you fail to mention what you want for it

Just cough up a number if we don't like it then your stuck if someone wants to pay for it then your in luck

[unklejman]

3) We are not looking for an outrageous amount of money, just a fair price.


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=37599&highlight=ronpaul.com

Also about getting thousands of new viewers... I accidentally go to ronpaul.com a few times a week, not thinking when typing the url for ronpaul2008.com or ronpaulforums.com

[snowgoosebob]

My friend is not a cybersquatter, his name happens to be Ron Paul too! My friend has owned ronpaul.com for many years.

I did a whois search on the domain and it says the Registrant of that domain is Tom Paul

[mconder]

Probably a good idea to buy this domain before he becomes president. It will be worth considerably more then.

[TwiLeXia]

Should have sold earlier. However I'm sure that some fans would be eager to buy it from you to make it a RP fansite, but the campaign HQ most likely will not anymore, now that they already have ronpaul2008.com set up.

[hasan]

i cant believe this is still being discussed. let it sink. wev got more important things to do rite now.

[stevepdx]

I did a whois search on the domain and it says the Registrant of that domain is Tom Paul

Tom is one of my coworkers, he is unrelated to Ron Paul. Tom is listed as the registrant contact in the WHOIS record.

Ron Paul owns the name.

[niall]

If he can't lend the domain or put a link, then I want nothing to do with the guy. This is not a business deal...our liberty is at stake here.

Plus, if he were smart, he would have already turned the domain into a Ron Paul merchandising center, where people could buy RP stuff. The profits on that would have probably dwarfed what the campaign would be willing to pay for the name itself.

[unklejman]

So what do you think it is worth?

[atilla]

the nice thing about google, domain names are becoming practically irrelevant.

[rfbz]

Go buy HillaryClinton.com and go harass them. Or get a job.

[mexicanpizza]

you have something to learn about the way people use the Internet!

Says the guy that should AT LEAST have some AdSense running on his root level domain. Wow.

Welcome to the internet. It's clear you're new here.

[seeker5]

I don't know how anyone can assume "the price is too steep" or somehow six-figures, as that is not the case. We have never offered the name for public sale before.

Perhaps you guys haven't offered it to the public at large. However, several months ago we heard of your friend trying to sell it to the campaign for a huge amount. Sorry, we are kinda open in the Ron Paul field, not exactly prone to secrecy.


For those of you who incorrectly assume that the thousands of people who visit ronpaul.com or email to ron(at)ronpaul.com are 100% making it to ronpaul2008.com, you have something to learn about the way people use the Internet!

Your domain would now be of no interest to the official website, but maybe to a supporter who wants to build a support site.


If anyone has any suggestions on how I should handle this, please PM me. Is ebay the best auction site for domains like this?

I thought you were the expert on this talking to us "non-expert", yet you ask for a question like this about where to sell it? Are you trying to intimidate us? If so, go away. If you honestly don't know, then stop pretending you're an expert. It's ok to ask for advice, but it's not ok to pretend to be an expert...then ask for advice.


If we initiate a dialogue, and if you get to know me, and check out my background, you will see that I am just trying to do the right thing. I am helping a true friend.

What is your background? Nothing in what you've said has indicated your background at all. If you truly own an "internet consulting company", then point to us your website, etc. That is, unless you own an internet consulting company of one new part-time unpaid employee who logs on to this forum as "stevepdx" .

[DealzOnWheelz]

i Say Again Name Your Price And The Market Will Decide

[Danny Molina]

Save it for Dr. Paul. Just incase he wants to use it to promote his books or stuff like that.

[Johncjackson]

A Fair price is whatever someone is willing to pay. This guy has the same name and is not using the site for anything malicious. If he wants to give a link, that's up to him. If he wants to make some money and someone wants to buy it, good for him. Frankly, I'd rather a RP supporter own it than a hater ( in other words don't get mad if this guy sells the domain to someone that hates Ron Paul).

Sorry sometimes I have to speak up for the capitalist wing of the Ron Paul party.

[McDermit]

One things for certain: anyone this hungry for $ could sell it to a political enemy.

In which case they would be sued in a matter of days and would have to hand the domain over to HQ. I almost hope they do!

[Johncjackson]

In which case they would be sued in a matter of days and would have to hand the domain over to HQ. I almost hope they do!

The guy who owns it is named Ron Paul. I will stop there because I dont want to give any negative ideas.

[mtmedlin]

I would be interested in knowing what he wants. If it is reasonable there may be some of us that are interested in paying.

[synthetic]

Put the domain on ebay.

[corsairtro]

why dont you just redirect it to the campaign.

DO THIS NOW!

[mopar.bo]

Wow. What an asshole.

[usmcZ]

I'll give you $9.99 plus a $20 Chili's gift card.

[Ncturnal]

I don't know how anyone can assume "the price is too steep" or somehow six-figures, as that is not the case. We have never offered the name for public sale before.

eBay it. That's the only way you will ever know what the market will bear.


For those of you who said it is now "too late," I ask you is the Ron Paul campaign over? Is the Revolution over? Why is RonPaulForums.com still being used then?

It's too late because ronpaul2008.com is already in print and posted on websites EVERYWHERE.....all of our signs, literature, etc. There is no way that will be changed at this point. The Revolution is far from over but it is well entrenched with another name.


For those of you who incorrectly assume that the thousands of people who visit ronpaul.com or email to ron(at)ronpaul.com are 100% making it to ronpaul2008.com, you have something to learn about the way people use the Internet!

Dr. Ron Paul has a commanding following on the internet. I think very few (if any) dead-end their search at ronpaul.com.


If anyone has any suggestions on how I should handle this, please PM me. Is ebay the best auction site for domains like this?

Your previous statement claimed we have something to learn about the internet and then you ask us how to sell a domain name? http://www.ncturnal.com/smiles/lmfao.gif


I appreciate the responses we have received from those of you who understand free markets and the legal definition of cybersquatting, as clearly, we are here in good faith.

If we initiate a dialogue, and if you get to know me, and check out my background, you will see that I am just trying to do the right thing. I am helping a true friend.

I will also let this thread die and cease posting here, if I don't get any further responses.

May I make one last suggestion? Do some research on Dr. Ron Paul. If that doesn't move you to action, then I wish you well on your quest to sell it. There's NO WAY I'd sell that domain name if I had it, but there's also no way I'd let it just sit there in its current form either. You're missing a much bigger opportunity than any any amount of money you could get from selling it. That's my http://www.ncturnal.com/smiles/twocents.gif.

[sgrooms]

on ebay now

[newbitech]

i'd like to buy it

[sailingaway]

I'd like Ron to get it.

This must be when the guy who bought it got it for $25,000, so if the campaign etc didn't want to pay that, I can see even more clearly he has claim to it, Ron had a chance to get it. But Ron did have .org for years and scooping that up because it temporarily lapsed is different, from a supporter, to my mind.

[ClydeCoulter]

I'd like Ron to get it.

This must be when the guy who bought it got it for $25,000, so if the campaign etc didn't want to pay that, I can see even more clearly he has claim to it, Ron had a chance to get it. But Ron did have .org for years and scooping that up because it temporarily lapsed is different, from a supporter, to my mind.

He may have figured, hey I have the .com, the .org is now available (If I buy a domain name I try to get both, usually, so I can use one for a public interface, the other for organizational member stuff or whatever). I paid 20,000 for the one, I can get the .org for 10.00, they let it go, so why not.

I really would like to hear from the defendant.

[sailingaway]

He may have figured, hey I have the .com, the .org is now available (If I buy a domain name I try to get both, usually, so I can use one for a public interface, the other for organizational member stuff or whatever). I paid 20,000 for the one, I can get the .org for 10.00, they let it go, so why not.

I really would like to hear from the defendant.

:D

So would I, but he doesn't seem to be chiming in.

[newbitech]

He may have figured, hey I have the .com, the .org is now available (If I buy a domain name I try to get both, usually, so I can use one for a public interface, the other for organizational member stuff or whatever). I paid 20,000 for the one, I can get the .org for 10.00, they let it go, so why not.

I really would like to hear from the defendant.

it's not like the guy just bought the domain names to park them so he could wait for Ron to come along and buy them. That is his defense. And it's even a more solid defense considering the mounting evidence that Ron Paul et. al. had the opportunity to control the name and did not. This has repeated on several occasions. RonPaul.com which someone who did have the same name decided to cash in on, the 2008 campaign site. the .org site.

The other important point that gets swallowed up in this, you don't actually own your name.

I always bitch about sites like mugshots using my likeness and at the same time killing my reputation (and everyone else who shares my name). Ron Paul the politician IS LUCKY this didn't happen to him.

He should just be happy that someone else who shares his name is doing him a service, for free and at the guys own expense.