Ron Paul on Cover of New Issue of Cannabis Culture Magazine

[Geronimo]

I just got this from a Marc Emery bulletin at Myspace.

Cannabis Culture editor Jodie Emery says Liberty Turns Me On! Caucus for Ron Paul in Iowa Thursday!

There is a pull-out 11" x 17" RON Paul * Champion of the Constitution * President 2008 pull-out poster included in this issue also.

Release schedule:
66,000 copies out:
In Hemp Stores across USA by January 17
In Hemp Stores Across Canada by January 18
On Newstands in Canada by January 30
On Newstands Across USA by Feb. 5
Subscription copies will arrive January 18 - 25.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/library/images/uploads/4878-CC69Cover.jpg

[TXcarlosTX]

ha this makes me smile :-)

[mexicanpizza]

Ron Paul is on that cover? Didn't notice... :D

[OhioMichael]

I think it is great!

[DjLoTi]

Marc and Jodie Emery rock.

[kushaze]

Thanks Marc for putting this on the cover.

[Jordan]

That hookah and frosted bong are unreal.

Good to see RP on the cover.

[rainman39393]

that is the best magazine cover ever to exist in the history of time.

[jgmaynard]

That's great! I LOVE that there is a poster in there as well... :) BTW, NH has the highest cannabis consumption rate in the nation. So, I'd figure this magazine is probably popular here.

JM

[lvp1138]

errr... where is Ron Paul?

oh ok. There he is. Something else grabbed my attention...

[Ruby Justice]

Pretty damn cool. Sponsored by who is that pullout poster and the website ad on the cover?
Certainly not the campaign..

[LinearChaos]

that is the best magazine cover ever to exist in the history of time.

+1

[OptionsTrader]

errr... where is Ron Paul?

oh ok. There he is. Something else grabbed my attention...

lol

[ecliptic]

I like freedom! All plants are good!

[walt]

god i hope Fox puts that on the screen :)

[electronicmaji]

Its sponsored by the magazine itself......stoners love RP :D

[ecliptic]

The Marijuana Conspiracy (http://www.world-mysteries.com/marijuana1.htm), by Doug Yurchey

This is a good place to start . . . .

[Chase]

Thanks to Marc and Jodie!!!

[boethius27]

Wow, Dr. Paul is aging quite well. Those look awfully perky for 72 years old...

Oh wait, there he is....

[Tina]

It's a beautiful thing!!! I love it.

[Geronimo]

It's a beautiful thing!!! I love it.
The Ron Paul ad is nice too.

[Spirit of '76]

that is the best magazine cover ever to exist in the history of time.

lol

I cherish my autographed "Liberty turns me on" picture. Thanks, Jodie. :D

[slantedview]

thumbs up

[CanadiansLoveRonPaul]

Be aware of Marc Emery and his associates...

"First of all, we are not losing customers at all. We have never had so much interest in the seeds we sell. Any problems experienced can be dealt with if the complainants stay polite, but once they become abusive or begin posting heated, crazed rhetoric, then we terminate any interest in dealing with that person.

I find this abusive behaviour unfathomable considering we have their address and pertinent details of what they are doing but somehow feel they can abuse us and provoke us. I wouldn't be doing that to anyone I had sent written proof to that I was growing marijuana/requesting marijuana seeds.

Fortunately, we have never had to resort to dealing severly with miscreants who don't understand their self-incrimination" - Marc Emery

[hillertexas]

Way to go, Marc!

[Luther]

Bravo.

[enjoiskaterguy]

After I saw the cover I just couldn't help but wonder what Ron himself would say about it.

[RPFTW!]

Amazing, amazing.

[OptionsTrader]

Holy smokes.

[jgmaynard]

He's... Ummmmmmm.... catching....... errrrrrr.. ummmmmmmmmm.... wow. Are those Twinkies? :)

JM

[dirknb@hotmail.com]

awesome

[ecliptic]

{ ... said like butthead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butt-head) }

that is the best magazine cover ever to exist in the history of time.

Beavis and Butthead on Letterman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRmuDkXwWzU)

[SneakyFrenchSpy]

Jodie is such a beautiful woman. She's really bright and extremely knowledgeable and she can debate any topic with the best of them.

You should check her out in the Ron Paul thread on the Cannabis Culture forum:

http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1364705#Post1364705

She's JodieGR

[voytechs]

Thats one hell of a cover page. It makes me want to subscribe to it and I don't smoke (anything.)

[Nyte]

http://catsnstuff.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/dude-wait-what.jpg

[Geronimo]

This just in..

Get a Signed Copy of Jodie Emery on Ron Paul CC Mag Cover
...if you send a receipt for any donation in 2008 of $10 or more to RonPaul2008.com to jodie@cannabisculturedotcom

A glossy pic of the photo below will be mailed to you if you give $ to ronpaul2008.com and email a copy of your receipt to editor Jodie. Give us a mailing address, who its to be inscribed to, and the copy of your donation receipt.

[Bradley in DC]

The just couldn't wait until AFTER Iowa! :eek:

[pinkmandy]

Yay!!! And wow on the hooka! Nice!

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

hahaha... nice.

Someone digg it.

[ecliptic]

Jodie is such a beautiful woman. She's really bright and extremely knowledgeable and she can debate any topic with the best of them.

You should check her out in the Ron Paul thread on the Cannabis Culture forum:

http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1364705#Post1364705

She's JodieGR

edit: wait ... what?

[HistoryWillBeMade:RonPaul]

So I was at the Smoke Shop a few months ago and bought Cannibas Culture. The issue says it was August-September 2007 (I think I bought it in October)....You can barely notice it but on the front cover by the bar code and pricing reads "www.ronpaul2008.com"

When I bought it I loved Ron Paul but had no idea he was going to be mentioned in an issue of it. But to my great surprise page 6 was a picture of the editor Marc Scott Emery wearing a "Ron Paul R3volution" shirt and mentions


Hey America-do you want a president in 2008 who would end the drug war immediately? Then you absolutely must register to vote and support Congressman RON PAUL for President! This anti-Iraq war, anti-drug war Texas Congressman is the Champion of the Constitution who reveres the Bill of Rights, and has spent his entire life defending and advocating liberty and freedom. .....he is the only Congressperson who consistantly votes for liberty, freedom, and the Bill of Rights, and against expanding the government and drug war- everytime! Ron Paul has voted at every single opportunity in Congress to oppose the war on drugs, the war in Iraq, the Patriot Act, NSA wiretapping, and every unconstituional fascist scheme the Bush White House has engineered. He favors a non-interventionist foreign policy, and an end to income tax and the IRS. Ron Paul believes the government has to be kept small and out of citizens' private affairs- and he has always voted in Congress that way! Ron Paul is an intelligent, educated, an unwavering, incredible principled man without a corrupt bone in his body who votes strictly according to what the Constitution says Congres is allowed to do, and never wastefully spends a dime of taxpayer money. Once Considered a longshiot, Ron Paul has surged into third place in Republican fundraising and has been winning official straw polls at state conventions this election is truly going to be determined by the American people with the power of grassroots organizations and the Internet. Jodie and I are doing all we can to support Ron Paul because not only would he end the drug war as President, but he's likely appoint an Attorney General who would rescind the US indictment against BC3-and to restore constitutionally-limited US government- is to support Ron Paul in his bid for the Presidency. No One explains Ron Paul better than the main himself, so check out www.ronpaul2008.com or Google his name and you can watch, read, and listen to his powerful messages of hope for America

Then I lit a big bowl for LIBERTY, PEACE, and PROSPERITY!.....and passed it on to my friend who I converted to a Ron Paul fan. ("Dude you gotta check out these YouTube videos of this guy named Ron Paul"

[Marceline88]

Sweeeeeeeeet. Ron Paul, I beg your pardon, seriously, I need you to pardon me...please....I been a bad bad plant lover.

[Ball]

Did the High Times ad get published? Someone told me he bought the January issue and it wasn't in it?

[Marc Scott Emery]

Get a Signed Copy of Jodie Emery on the new CC Mag Cover shown below
...if you send a receipt for any donation in 2008 of $10 or more to RonPaul2008.com to jodie@cannabisculture.com

A glossy pic of the photo below will be mailed to you if you give $ to ronpaul2008.com and email a copy of your receipt to editor Jodie. Give us a mailing address, who its to be inscribed to, and the copy of your donation receipt.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/library/images/uploads/4878-CC69Cover.jpg

Cannabis Culture editor Jodie Emery says Liberty Turns Me On! Caucus for Ron Paul in Iowa Thursday!

There is a ALSO a pull-out 11" x 17" Ron Paul * Champion of the Constitution * President 2008 pull-out poster included in this issue also.

Release schedule:
66,000 copies out:
In Hemp Stores across USA by January 17
In Hemp Stores Across Canada by January 18
On Newsstands in Canada by January 30
On Newsstands Across USA by Feb. 5
Subscription copies will arrive January 18 - 25.

[defcreative]

Looking beautiful, excellent cover!

(not a surprise of course ;) )

[ecliptic]

edit: wait ... what?

[Joe3113]

Cannabis is a pathetic drug if you don't need it for medical reasons.

[UCFGavin]

hey Marc, thanks for posting up the thread. I responded to the post on myspace, but i'm going to post it up here in hopes you may be able to give me a quicker response:

I recently just ordered a copy of the magazine. Instead of shipping both, would it be better to just get the actual magazine autographed and just ship it instead of both? I see they haven't been shipped out yet. However, I'll do whatever would work best for you guys :)

-Danny

[hillertexas]

Excellent...just sent you my email...can't wait! :)

[greendiseaser]

Cannabis is a pathetic drug if you don't need it for medical reasons.


uh . ok.
thanks for that.
:rolleyes:

::blows smoke in face::

[Vendico]

Very nice Marc. Very nice.

[Brad324]

Bob Marley would vote for Ron Paul

[Vendico]

Cannabis is a pathetic drug if you don't need it for medical reasons.

Don't attack something you know nothing about. No, government brainwashing doesn't count.

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

Cannabis is a pathetic drug if you don't need it for medical reasons.

STFU plz.

[kushaze]

Thanks Marc for putting it on the cover.

[Blowback]

Cannabis is a pathetic drug if you don't need it for medical reasons.

Pretty useless comment right there

[NocturnalC]

Cannabis is a pathetic drug if you don't need it for medical reasons.

That's your opinion..............from where ever you heard it from. It's not fact.

[Joe3113]

STFU plz.

I'm sure Ron Paul would agree with me.

I still think it should be completely legal. It's no different to alcohol or other drugs. All alter your state of consciousness. Which is pathetic (unless you have a medical problem). You gotta face up to the real word. Don't try to escape reality.

:( Sorry to be a buzzkill on the thread but keep in mind I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH RON ON REMOVING FEDERAL RESTRICTIONS.

[Joe3113]

It's not fact.

That's your opinion.....and you are entitled to it. :D

[UCFGavin]

damn, wish marc was still here :(

[DjLoTi]

I am so donating for this.

[jenninlouisiana]

I'm sure Ron Paul would agree with me.


That's kinda silly speaking on behalf of Ron Paul, ya know....

[Mikakaze]

Great cover. Thank you for the wonderful offer, Marc! Donation made.

[wildflower]

Oh gawd, I hope this isn't actually in the works. No offense to the pot people here, but this is not the kind of publicity he needs.

We ALREADY have the haters calling us all 'potheads' and making jokes about bongs and trying to portray us as a bunch of teenage idiots.

We DON'T need to perpetuate a false stereotype they want to put on us, by something like this. :(

(just my 2 cents... i'll put on my flame-proof suit now for the attacks coming) ;)

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

I'm sure Ron Paul would agree with me.

I still think it should be completely legal. It's no different to alcohol or other drugs. All alter your state of consciousness. Which is pathetic (unless you have a medical problem). You gotta face up to the real word. Don't try to escape reality.

:( Sorry to be a downer on the thread but keep in mind I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH RON ON REMOVING FEDERAL RESTRICTIONS.

Are you also going to condemn the hundreds of millions of people who were shitfaced drunk on New Years Eve a couple nights ago??

Gimme a break. If you don't like weed, don't smoke it. If you don't like beer, don't drink it. If you don't like cigars, don't smoke them. But we don't need a lecture here.

[Marc Scott Emery]

if "here" means at-large and campaigning furiously for Ron Paul in every way I can.

[Marc Scott Emery]

Are you also going to condemn the hundreds of millions of people who were shitfaced drunk on New Years Eve a couple nights ago??

Gimme a break. If you don't like weed, don't smoke it. If you don't like beer, don't drink it. If you don't like cigars, don't smoke them. But we don't need a lecture here.

Especially not from an Australian!

[jenninlouisiana]

We DON'T need to perpetuate a false stereotype they want to put on us, by something like this.

Like your post? Ironic, huh?

[UCFGavin]

if "here" means at-large and campaigning furiously for Ron Paul in every way I can.

no, i posted an issue on the first page that i was curious about haha ;)

[Marc Scott Emery]

you'll really hate the 11" x 17" pull out poster for Ron Paul!

[UCFGavin]

Oh gawd, I hope this isn't actually in the works. No offense to the pot people here, but this is not the kind of publicity he needs.

We ALREADY have the haters calling us all 'potheads' and making jokes about bongs and trying to portray us as a bunch of teenage idiots.

We DON'T need to perpetuate a false stereotype they want to put on us, by something like this. :(

(just my 2 cents... i'll put on my flame-proof suit now for the attacks coming) ;)

you do realize they've supported RP for a long time and have put out articles like this before right?

[Jeremy]

This is not good guys...

[Joe3113]

That's kinda silly speaking on behalf of Ron Paul, ya know....

Looking at Ron Paul, I doubt he would smoke pot if it were not for medical reasons. It's a judgment based on the facts. Just like predicting where he will finish in Iowa.

I don't hate pot smokers. My best friends who I trust with my life are heavy users. I still think they are pathetic and I tell them that. There are better things you could be doing than getting high. Like reading a book.

[kushaze]

you'll really hate the 11" x 17" pull out poster for Ron Paul!

Awesome. I am definitely looking forward to this issue.

[BeFranklin]

Oh gawd, I hope this isn't actually in the works. No offense to the pot people here, but this is not the kind of publicity he needs.

We ALREADY have the haters calling us all 'potheads' and making jokes about bongs and trying to portray us as a bunch of teenage idiots.

We DON'T need to perpetuate a false stereotype they want to put on us, by something like this. :(

(just my 2 cents... i'll put on my flame-proof suit now for the attacks coming) ;)

No comment, but now I'm wondering about your nick or real name :D

[jenninlouisiana]

It's the judgement part along with speaking on Ron Paul's behalf.

70 Million Americans admit to having smoked pot. Admitted. All of them aren't represented by your friends.

[robert4rp08]

Get a Signed Copy of Jodie Emery on the new CC Mag Cover shown below
...if you send a receipt for any donation in 2008 of $10 or more to RonPaul2008.com to jodie@cannabisculture.com

A glossy pic of the photo below will be mailed to you if you give $ to ronpaul2008.com and email a copy of your receipt to editor Jodie. Give us a mailing address, who its to be inscribed to, and the copy of your donation receipt.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/library/images/uploads/4878-CC69Cover.jpg

Cannabis Culture editor Jodie Emery says Liberty Turns Me On! Caucus for Ron Paul in Iowa Thursday!

There is a ALSO a pull-out 11" x 17" Ron Paul * Champion of the Constitution * President 2008 pull-out poster included in this issue also.

Release schedule:
66,000 copies out:
In Hemp Stores across USA by January 17
In Hemp Stores Across Canada by January 18
On Newsstands in Canada by January 30
On Newsstands Across USA by Feb. 5
Subscription copies will arrive January 18 - 25.

I never got my signed photos from last time.........

[wildflower]

No comment, but now I'm wondering about your nick or real name :D

what are you trying to say? ;)

(ps - sorry if my post offended anyone. but i do care about us not handing ammunition over to the haters)

[Marc Scott Emery]

Oh gawd, I hope this isn't actually in the works. No offense to the pot people here, but this is not the kind of publicity he needs.

We ALREADY have the haters calling us all 'potheads' and making jokes about bongs and trying to portray us as a bunch of teenage idiots.

We DON'T need to perpetuate a false stereotype they want to put on us, by something like this. :(

(just my 2 cents... i'll put on my flame-proof suit now for the attacks coming) ;)

I hate to tell you this, Wildflower, but potheads are probably Ron Paul's #1 demographic right now, you'll notice that today on Wolf Blitzer's Situation Room when asked what he would do domestically on his first day as President, the first thing Dr. Paul said was " stop the Justice Dept. from persecuting people using marijuana for medical reasons..."

I didn't make the guy's platform, I just agree with it and am promoting it.

Methinks Wildflower knows little about being wild or flowers, and is caught up in some anal-retentive reflex. 30 million Americans smoke pot, 1.8 million people in the US are arrested for drugs each year. So Wildflower, what is you hate more? cannabis, liberty, or the truth, because your showing contempt for all 3.

[ThePieSwindler]

Cannabis is a pathetic drug if you don't need it for medical reasons.

Yeah man cocaine is where its at. :rolleyes:

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

Looking at Ron Paul, I doubt he would smoke pot if it were not for medical reasons. It's a judgment based on the facts. Just like predicting where he will finish in Iowa.

I don't hate pot smokers. My best friends who I trust with my life are heavy users. I still think they are pathetic and I tell them that. There are better things you could be doing than getting high. Like reading a book.

Why don't you answer my question about alcohol? Are you going to condemn alcohol use and call everyone who drinks losers or pathetic? Alcohol is ten times more destructive to human life than weed.

Hundreds of thousands of people die every year in the US from alcohol and cigarettes. None die from weed.

[kushaze]

I don't like to be called a pothead. I like cannabis coniseur.

[Joe3113]

Are you also going to condemn the hundreds of millions of people who were shitfaced drunk on New Years Eve a couple nights ago??

Yes



Gimme a break. If you don't like weed, don't smoke it. If you don't like beer, don't drink it. If you don't like cigars, don't smoke them. But we don't need a lecture here.


The magazine obliviously promotes recreational use. I was simply stating that I doubt Ron Paul's personal opinion would be that such a reason for using marijuana is justified, and this is 'Ron Paul' Forums. But of course he would not force his beliefs on you unconstitutionally with federal laws. Which is good. People who want to smoke it should be able to do so and I should have every right to attack them for doing so.

[amonasro]

Oh gawd, I hope this isn't actually in the works. No offense to the pot people here, but this is not the kind of publicity he needs.

No flaming from me :) but I don't think you realize how many closet smokers are out there. We're sick of feeling disenfranchised and paranoid while enjoying our hobby and will certainly speak with our votes. It's less harmful than alcohol and we're sick of the lies about it.

I think the recent ad in High Times was also a great thing to win supporters.

The "pothead" label is going to be thrown around regardless because he has been pro-legalization, anti-drug war forever. This whole revolution is going to make those stereotyped, propaganda-influenced labels obsolete anyway.

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

lolol, wildflower is a good christian girl, so i can see how a magazine cover like that would kind of shock her! :)

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

Yes


Ok, you condemn people drinking on new years, so that puts you in a tiny minority of people.

[Joe3113]

Hundreds of thousands of people die every year in the US from alcohol and cigarettes. None die from weed.

This is a result of the fact that alcohol consumption is more prevalent.

[Marc Scott Emery]

Looking at Ron Paul, I doubt he would smoke pot if it were not for medical reasons. It's a judgment based on the facts. Just like predicting where he will finish in Iowa.

I don't hate pot smokers. My best friends who I trust with my life are heavy users. I still think they are pathetic and I tell them that. There are better things you could be doing than getting high. Like reading a book.

He is quoted on television saying he has never even SEEN someone smoke pot,

" you know I defend these people and their right to medicate this way but I've never even seen marijuana, to tell you the truth..."

Dr. Paul is so amazing and awesome.

[Unspun]

It's no different to alcohol or other drugs.

Yes, and Ron Paul drinks wine. Stop with the BS, near every drug is fine in moderation.

[amonasro]

This is a result of the fact that alcohol consumption is more prevalent.

No, it's because you can't overdose on weed. Even if you smoked a pound you'd live to tell about it.

[kushaze]

The NORML Ron Paul interview got me into Ron Paul, so publications like this are going to work. We're going to roadie to the primaries. j/k

[Marc Scott Emery]

I'm showing it here first, but we'll be sending it out to various media to get them to show it around on their media, next week.

[kushaze]

No, it's because you can't overdose on weed. Even if you smoked a pound you'd live to tell about it.

You would quit before you were able to smoke a pound. Trust me, I tried.

[Joe3113]

Ok, you condemn people drinking on new years, so that puts you in a tiny minority of people.

I wouldn't use 'condemn' as the word. I just think there is better things they could be doing. Unfortunately that does put me in the minority.

[tamor]

Here we go again -- we have been through all this before -- Dr. Paul is against the Federal Government interfering with regulations of drugs -- he wants to leave that up to the states.

[Joe3113]

He is quoted on television saying he has never even SEEN someone smoke pot,

" you know I defend these people and their right to medicate this way but I've never even seen marijuana, to tell you the truth..."

Dr. Paul is so amazing and awesome.

Thank you for that sir.

[romeshomey]

Get a Signed Copy of Jodie Emery on the new CC Mag Cover shown below
...if you send a receipt for any donation in 2008 of $10 or more to RonPaul2008.com to jodie@cannabisculture.com

A glossy pic of the photo below will be mailed to you if you give $ to ronpaul2008.com and email a copy of your receipt to editor Jodie. Give us a mailing address, who its to be inscribed to, and the copy of your donation receipt.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/library/images/uploads/4878-CC69Cover.jpg

Cannabis Culture editor Jodie Emery says Liberty Turns Me On! Caucus for Ron Paul in Iowa Thursday!

There is a ALSO a pull-out 11" x 17" Ron Paul * Champion of the Constitution * President 2008 pull-out poster included in this issue also.

Release schedule:
66,000 copies out:
In Hemp Stores across USA by January 17
In Hemp Stores Across Canada by January 18
On Newsstands in Canada by January 30
On Newsstands Across USA by Feb. 5
Subscription copies will arrive January 18 - 25.

Thanks Marc. Magazine looks great. I'll be sure to pick up a copy after its release.

I also wanted to wish you the best of luck in the future, you my friend are a hero in the hearts and minds of alot of people. Keep fighting the fight, and may the force be with you!

[wildflower]

I hate to tell you this, Wildflower, but potheads are probably Ron Paul's #1 demographic right now, you'll notice that today on Wolf Blitzer's Situation Room when asked what he would do domestically on his first day as President, the first thing Dr. Paul said was " stop the Justice Dept. from persecuting people using marijuana for medical reasons..."

I didn't make the guy's platform, I just agree with it and am promoting it.

Methinks Wildflower knows little about being wild or flowers, and is caught up in some anal-retentive reflex. 30 million Americans smoke pot, 1.8 million people in the US are arrested for drugs each year. So Wildflower, what is you hate more? cannabis, liberty, or the truth, because your showing contempt for all 3.

Don't misrepresent my position. You completely missed the point. I never said anything about drug legalization, and the point wasn't about pot. I am most definitely FOR freedom and truth.

I merely said that we have to be aware of handing ammunition to the opposition, and helping to confirm THEIR portrayal of us as a bunch of druggies.

I wasn't expecting you to basically agree with them that his main demographic is potheads. :confused:

[Vendico]

Oh gawd, I hope this isn't actually in the works. No offense to the pot people here, but this is not the kind of publicity he needs.

We ALREADY have the haters calling us all 'potheads' and making jokes about bongs and trying to portray us as a bunch of teenage idiots.

We DON'T need to perpetuate a false stereotype they want to put on us, by something like this. :(

(just my 2 cents... i'll put on my flame-proof suit now for the attacks coming) ;)

Think about who's doing that? Who's calling us those names? It doesn't matter what they think. If it's not this, it's brothels. It's all the same.

What they don't understand, and either do you, there are more people who partake this Cannabis than you think.

[amonasro]

You would quit before you were able to smoke a pound. Trust me, I tried.

Plus it's a waste, I was just making a point :D There is always a breaking point, lol.

[UCFGavin]

Don't misrepresent my position. You completely missed the point. I never said anything about drug legalization, and the point wasn't about pot. I am most definitely FOR freedom and truth.

I merely said that we have to be aware of handing ammunition to the opposition, and helping to confirm THEIR portrayal of us as a bunch of druggies.

I wasn't expecting you to basically agree with them that his main demographic is potheads. :confused:

we've gotten an endorsement from a brothel owner as well that got us some media attention, and we're still steam rolling ahead :)

[Joe3113]

Especially not from an Australian!

:D:D:D Yes. Australians do like their alcohol. I'm not your stereotypical Aussie other than that I'm an insane patriot who wants Australia to win at everything.

[NocturnalC]

Looking at Ron Paul, I doubt he would smoke pot if it were not for medical reasons. It's a judgment based on the facts. Just like predicting where he will finish in Iowa.

I don't hate pot smokers. My best friends who I trust with my life are heavy users. I still think they are pathetic and I tell them that. There are better things you could be doing than getting high. Like reading a book.

That's your opinion. People should be able to choose to do whatever they like. Of course without hurting others. If they think smoking is a better thing to do than reading, then that's liberty for ya. Everybody does something in their lifetime that others wouldn't approve of. Including you.

[Vendico]

This is a result of the fact that alcohol consumption is more prevalent.

Oh? So what percentage of deaths should we expect if this were legal? 0 x 10% = 0?

[Vendico]

I'm showing it here first, but we'll be sending it out to various media to get them to show it around on their media, next week.

Thanks for telling us first. Makes me feel good. I'm actually posting in a thread Marc is. That's just great!

[Joe3113]

That's your opinion. People should be able to choose to do whatever they like. Of course without hurting others. If they think smoking is a better thing to do than reading, then that's liberty for ya.

I agree. And I have every right to attack them for doing it just as I would attack someone who sat on their ass and watched TV all day. You do what you want and i'll say what I want about it. Thats freedom!




Everybody does something in their lifetime that others wouldn't approve of. Including you.


That's pretty presumptuous. Are you spying on me? :p

[wildflower]

No flaming from me :) but I don't think you realize how many closet smokers are out there. We're sick of feeling disenfranchised and paranoid while enjoying our hobby and will certainly speak with our votes. It's less harmful than alcohol and we're sick of the lies about it.

I think the recent ad in High Times was also a great thing to win supporters.

The "pothead" label is going to be thrown around regardless because he has been pro-legalization, anti-drug war forever. This whole revolution is going to make those stereotyped, propaganda-influenced labels obsolete anyway.

Thanks for being civil. And you made some good points. To be honest, I've had so many other things on my mind lately, that I haven't thought much about the amount of closet smokers out there who have been waiting for someone like Dr. Paul to come along. (as someone who has no interest in drugs, that wasn't what I focused on... but like Paul, I definitely stand for freedom and the constitution)

Like I said in my last post, I was just more concerned with the publicity and how it will affect mainstream people who aren't part of the cannibas crowd.

but anyway, maybe I should've just kept my concerns to myself.

[kushaze]

Why can't we be friends?

[Vendico]

:D:D:D Yes. Australians do like their alcohol. I'm not your stereotypical Aussie other than that I'm an insane patriot who wants Australia to win at everything.

You do realize, you're trolling...

[Joe3113]

Oh? So what percentage of deaths should we expect if this were legal? 0 x 10% = 0?

Has nothing to do with legality. Has to do with prevalence. If you drove a car under the influence of any drug above a particular blood concentration, you would be impaired and have a chance of having an accident.

[Joe3113]

You do realize, you're trolling...

If people stop responding I'll stop posting.

[fortilite]

I'm a much safer drunk driver than stoned driver. The solution is simple though, don't drive stoned.

[Vendico]

If people stop responding I'll stop posting.

You can stop now. Marc posted something that will bring in tons more money and votes. You calling us pathetic is a unnecessary insult.

[Marc Scott Emery]

Lots of people drive alertly, conservatively, defensively and unhurried in our vehicles as a consequence of being high.

I have never had an accident in 32 years of driving and I smoke cannabis while driving as I would with any machinery I felt competent and confident with. Cannabis does not impair, it enhances or adds to. A responsible individual can make fantastic use of cannabis and be gold medal snowboarders, NBA basketball superstars or NFL Quarterbacks, Olympic wrestlers and powerlifters, and can be an excellent defensive driver in a vehicle.

As to legislation, the test is never whats in the body, the proof of competence is performance. If the driver cannot pass a series of hand-eye and motor-cordination skills, or whose actual driving is erratic, then he can be said to be impaired. The constitutional violation involved in arresting and jailing individuals over the contents of their bloodstream, urine and hair follicles is so extraordinary, the founding fathers would be pissing their alcohol soaked urine in their graves today if they somehow knew of the perfidy visited on the sovereign rights of individuals since their days...

[JodieEmery]

Issue #68's Pot Puzzlers (the crossword and word search in every issue) include "Ron Paul Revolution" as the answer for the following sentence to be completed:

"Americans can save their country, end prohibition, and help the BC3 in their fight against extradition to the USA by joining the __ ___ _____!"

When readers submit the answers, they often add comments about how Ron Paul signs are all over their town, or they write "Ron Paul 2008!", or note they're going to vote for Ron Paul, etc. It's so gratifying to see supporters among our fans! :)

So, I wanted to share the opening side of the centerfold in Cannabis Culture #69. It's for our readers -- many who are fans -- to post and use anywhere! They've been reading about Ron Paul for some time now in Cannabis Culture Magazine.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/library/images/uploads/4878-CC69RonPaulCenterfold.jpg

Hmmm... I should share the Letter From The Editor from this upcoming issue as well... it's kind of fun previewing #69 with Ron Paulites instead of the cannabis culture communities online!

www.CannabisCulture.com
www.NoExtradition.net
www.RonPaul2008.com

[newmedia4ron]

thank you Marc and Jodie.


Lets go Iowa!

[Vendico]

Hi Jodie!!!

[romeshomey]

Lots of people drive alertly, conservatively, defensively and unhurried in our vehicles as a consequence of being high.

I have never had an accident in 32 years of driving and I smoke cannabis while driving as I would with any machinery I felt competent and confident with. Cannabis does not impair, it enhances or adds to. A responsible individual can make fantastic use of cannabis and be gold medal snowboarders, NBA basketball superstars or NFL Quarterbacks, Olympic wrestlers and powerlifters, and can be an excellent defensive driver in a vehicle.

As to legislation, the test is never whats in the body, the proof of competence is performance. If the driver cannot pass a series of hand-eye and motor-cordination skills, or whose actual driving is erratic, then he can be said to be impaired. The constitutional violation involved in arresting and jailing individuals over the contents of their bloodstream, urine and hair follicles is so extraordinary, the founding fathers would be pissing their alcohol soaked urine in their graves today if they somehow knew of the perfidy visited on the sovereign rights of individuals since their days...


Agreed.

[Greenskin]

I going to subscribe to this magazine.

Its about weed AND it supports Ron Paul. Fuck yeah. Thats been my life for winter break.

[AFTFNJ]

Word on da street is that http://www.roor.de/ kicks ass!

[JodieEmery]

Hey everyone!

I'll repost a review of what Cannabis Culture Magazine has done for Ron Paul in the last year and more. :)

Our magazine, Cannabis Culture, prints approximately 66,000 copies with a mostly-American audience. Our website is also frequented by US citizens -- www.CannabisCulture.com -- as are our MySpace and Facebook accounts, with thousands of fans and friends.

Cannabis Culture Magazine has been promoting Ron Paul since 2006 when the publisher and editor Marc Emery (my husband) analyzed every voting record of all US Representatives for issue #62's "Voter's Guide" and RON PAUL came out on top. Marc Emery has been a fan and follower of Ron Paul since the 1980s, and since 2006 we've featured Ron Paul promotions regularly.

The next issue of our magazine, #69 (out in mid-January) has me on the cover looking quite lovely (I'm already the "Ron Paul - Liberty Turns Me On" girl you may have seen online, the brunette in the white bikini) with a 2x5-inch RON PAUL promotion in the bottom left corner of the cover including Ron Paul's face, name, website, and 6 reasons for our audience to vote for Ron Paul.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/library/images/uploads/4878-JodieEmeryRonPaul01.jpg

We also have a centerfold in the same issue saying "RON PAUL - President 2008 - Champion of the Constitution" with 3 web addresses: RonPaul2008.com, DailyPaul.com, and RonPaulRadio.com. The poster can be used anywhere, and doesn't have pot leafs on it. Great for everyone to use.

In issue #62 we had the voter guide. Ron Paul got heavy promotion for being the best Representative for freedom, liberty, peace, and ending the War on Drugs (which was a prelude to the War on Terror). That in-depth analysis, which Marc spent months creating, is available at our website:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4806.html

Issue #65 was out all-activist issue and featured the article "For the Presidency of the United States", which offered insight into Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich (to have both a Republican and Democrat endorsed). You can find that article on our website too:
http://cannabisculture.com/articles/4910.html

Issue #67's Letter From the Editor (by Marc) endorsed Ron Paul heavily, and the photo was Marc in his popular Ron Paul Revolution shirt holding his "Prince of Pot" bong. That issue's cover also had www.RonPaul2008.com as the little "quote" next to the bar code, which we always switch up.

Issue #68, our currently-on-stands issue, has an article called "Your Next President On Drugs" and looks at every candidate's stance on the drug war, medical marijuana, hemp, etc. -- and of course, Ron Paul is the star of the show. That article can be seen at our website too, along with collected YouTube videos of every candidate commenting on drugs/marijuana.
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/5101.html

Hundreds of people have registered Republican, joined Ron Paul's campaign, donated money to him, turn into Ron Paulites like us, and done even more because of our efforts. They write to Marc and I daily, letting us know that they found out about Ron Paul through us, online or in CC magazine, or at www.Pot.tv or in person, or at our very popular store (Marc Emery's Cannabis Culture Headquarters) in downtown Vancouver... or even through our Vancouver Meet-Up group!

Marc and I also have a radio show on RonPaulRadio.com and currently we have an offer circulating for people who donate to Ron Paul -- they can get free personalized autographed centerfolds and posters of me and/or Marc (1: my famous CC centerfold, or 2: my "Liberty Turns Me On" Ron Paul promotion; or 3: Marc's Revolution-shirt picture) ... just email Jodie@cannabisculture.com with the confirmation email, your name and mailing address.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/library/images/uploads/4878-MarcSupportsRonPaul.jpg

For other Ron Paul & Marc Emery info, read the Seattle Weekly News article from a while ago... it's promotion, one way or another. It must be helping, because a lot of Republicans have been joining to support Ron Paul in Washington state, according to a recent story from there.
http://cannabisculture.com/articles/5045.html

Also, the recent Ron Paul article in Rolling Stone magazine was written by Tim Dickenson, who wrote about Marc Emery years ago. Marc contacted Dickenson after a previous article had said "all GOP candidates are for the Iraq war", encouraging Dickenson to take a closer look at Ron Paul. Dickenson later produced that excellent article; and though I imagine many others let him know that Ron Paul exists, Marc has a personal relationship with that journalist -- as Marc has been a media magnet since he was 17 -- and it seems to have had some good impact.

Here's what Marc wrote as a response to an earlier thread in these forums: "There's no Canadian who has done more for Ron Paul than myself and my wife, Jodie, in this campaign. I even put out myself tonight over 100 lawn signs, bridge sprawling banners, and pole signs in the pouring rain tonight all over Vancouver tonight with 8 members of the Vancouver meet-up group.
Contributions so far:
4,000 3x5" cards color
2,000 buttons
12 massive 3' x 8' banners color
a giant portable Ron Paul Pavilion
South Carolina Marathon of Hope (September)
two editorials
4 videos
one magazine cover
one magazine centerfold (value: $3450 US)
autographed posters of Jodie/me for over 100 Ron Paul donors
Ron Paul Radio shows"



So, expect much more to come from CC, Marc and me! :)

http://www.cannabisculture.com/library/images/uploads/4878-JodieEmeryRonPaul02.jpg

[Joe3113]

You can stop now. Marc posted something that will bring in tons more money and votes. You calling us pathetic is a unnecessary insult.

Calling someone pathetic isn't really an insult. I'd call it constructive criticism. My best friends smoke pot and I call them pathetic. It's not an insult.

I recommend doing something constructive instead of selfishly satisfying yourself by getting stoned. Reading a book or doing volunteer work is always good.

[kushaze]

Marc and Jodie Emery are awesome Ron Paul supporters. I wish I had the money to go visit BC and shake their hands for the hard work.

[Greenskin]

I've learned more from drugs than any book I've read.

And I've read Steven Colbert's book.

[Joe3113]

Lots of people drive alertly, conservatively, defensively and unhurried in our vehicles as a consequence of being high.


I'm sure your right but it doesn't affect everyone the same way. I've seen seen my friends drive while under the influence of cannabis and its not pretty. DUI laws are consistent with the ideas of freedom and liberty because by driving under the influence you are putting others in danger.

[Danny Molina]

Calling someone pathetic isn't really an insult. I'd call it constructive criticism. My best friends smoke pot and I call them pathetic. It's not an insult.

I recommend doing something constructive instead of selfishly satisfying yourself by getting stoned. Reading a book or doing volunteer work is always good.

Live and let live.

[Joe3113]

I've learned more from drugs than any book I've read.

And I've read Steven Colbert's book.

You've got to be kidding me. Try reading something with substance like Orwell, Plato, Aristotle, Machiavelli etc. I think you'll find it's a lot more enlightening than pathetically getting plastered .

[Isupportliberty]

Thank you so much Marc and Jodie for everything you have done for the cause of liberty.

[Joe3113]

Live and let live.

Disagree. I think people should have every right to smoke pot and drink alcohol for recreational purposes and I think I should have every right to criticize them for not doing something more constructive with their lives.

[Spirit of '76]

Lighten up, Francis.

[kushaze]

Disagree. I think people should have every right to smoke pot and drink alcohol for recreational purposes and I think I should have every right to criticize them for not doing something more constructive with their lives.

Its not like pot smokers just sit around and smoke pot. I have a full time job (graduated with a masters) and remain active at the gym, etc. I smoke pot in my free time. You are stereotyping pot smokers.

[Joe3113]

Its not like pot smokers just sit around and smoke pot. I have a full time job (graduated with a masters) and remain active at the gym, etc. I smoke pot in my free time. You are stereotyping pot smokers.

No. Stereotyping is collectivism. How could I support Ron if I agreed with that. :)

And there is no such thing as free time. We use all our time as we choose and all time is precious.

[Isupportliberty]

No. Stereotyping is collectivism. How could I support Ron if I agreed with that. :)

And there is no such thing as free time. We use all our time as we choose and all time is precious.

and some people choose to use their time smoking pot, so what? maybe smoking pot has caused people to have many precious moments that they wouldn't have had otherwise.



I recommend doing something constructive instead of selfishly satisfying yourself by getting stoned. Reading a book or doing volunteer work is always good.


Would you call some of your favorite musicians, artists, authors selfish because their drug use inspired them to create in a way that has made your life a little more meaningful?

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

Hey everyone!

http://www.cannabisculture.com/library/images/uploads/4878-JodieEmeryRonPaul01.jpg


http://www.cannabisculture.com/library/images/uploads/4878-MarcSupportsRonPaul.jpg



Right on. You guys are awesome. Thanks for helping us reach out to the millions of tokers... that's a lot of potential votes for Doc Paul. :)

BTW, Jodie, great cans!

[amistybleu]

The (illegal) law tells me NO so I dont, If RP is elected and the laws changed I am going to fire up a huge hit in the middle of town. :D

You fuckin stoners better hit the polls.

[Joe3113]

and some people choose to use their time smoking pot, so what? maybe smoking pot has caused people to have many precious moments that they wouldn't have had otherwise.


I think learning a new skill or helping someone with a problem would produce precious moments. I'm not sure how pot smoking or alcohol drinking would produce them. Selfishness doesn't produce precious moments in my opinion.



Would you call some of your favorite musicians, artists, authors selfish because their drug use inspired them to create in a way that has made your life a little more meaningful?


For something to be meaningful it has to exist in the real world. Cannabis produces distorted perceptions of time, space and distance. I doubt anything meaningful has ever been created as a result of someone getting stoned. :)

[Nash]

I wouldn't smoke pot even if it was legal.

But that doesn't mean other people can't.

[Joe3113]

I wouldn't smoke pot even if it was legal.

But that doesn't mean other people can't.

I agree, and I have every right to tell them it's pathetic and explain why. That's called freedom :)

[Isupportliberty]

For something to be meaningful it has to exist in the real world. Cannabis produces distorted perceptions of time, space and distance. I doubt anything meaningful has ever been created as a result of someone getting stoned. :)

Does music, art, or books not exist in the real world? I find your claim that nothing meaningful has ever been created by getting stoned pretty silly.

This is a list of people who smoked cannabis and who have also gone on to do meaningful things:

http://www.slatts.fsworld.co.uk/famous.htm

I understand that this list may not be 100% accurate, but I don't think you can say no one on that list did anything meaningful as a result of getting stoned. Maybe getting stoned gave one of our founding fathers the insight they needed to understand what liberty is all about. That would be pretty meaningful to me. :)

[Joe3113]

Does music, art, or books not exist in the real world? I find your claim that nothing meaningful has ever been created by getting stoned pretty silly.


Well I guess if YOU say its silly then I lose the argument :P




This is a list of people who smoked cannabis and who have also gone on to do meaningful things:

http://www.slatts.fsworld.co.uk/famous.htm


1. How long would the list be for people who smoked cannabis and HAVE NOT gone on to do meaningful things

2. How do you know the effects of cannabis did or did not produce the 'meaningful' things those people have done? Because they said so?



Maybe getting stoned gave one of our founding fathers the insight they needed to understand what liberty is all about. That would be pretty meaningful to me. :)


Liberty is a very simple concept at it's core. You don't need cannabis producing distorted perceptions of time, space and distance to understand liberty.

[ecliptic]

A responsible individual can make fantastic use of cannabis and be gold medal snowboarders, NBA basketball superstars or NFL Quarterbacks, Olympic wrestlers and powerlifters, and can be an excellent defensive driver in a vehicle.

People's opinions about what happens to them from cannabis use are the product of 75 years of propaganda. If you believe you are impaired - you will tend to act impaired.


The constitutional violation involved in arresting and jailing individuals over the contents of their bloodstream, urine and hair follicles is so extraordinary, the founding fathers would be pissing their alcohol soaked urine in their graves today if they somehow knew of the perfidy visited on the sovereign rights of individuals since their days...

D.U.I. Inc. is big busine$$ and is in blatant violation of the Constitution. What's the difference between arresting you for the chemical composition of your bloodstream and "pre-crime"? Do you see where this could lead . . . ?

Another area of "law" which blatantly violates the Constitution?

Family law is an entire "separate-but-unequal" court system... set up specifically to circumvent the Constitution. "No-fault" divorce is unconstitutional. "Child support" is unconstitutional. They all know it. Judges, lawyers, other public servants all of whom are knowingly violating their oaths to "uphold and defend the Constitution".

ALL of these areas of disregard for the Constitution require our immediate attention. These are an integral part of the rloveution. Thanks for your outstanding work for Ron Paul, Marc!

[Joe3113]

D.U.I. Inc. is big busine$$ and is in blatant violation of the Constitution.


It was my belief that the constitution dealt with federal government. DUI is a state issue if i'm not mistaken. The constitution has no authority over the states.



"Child support" is unconstitutional.


Interesting point. Is this a federal issue? I think both a mother and father should be equally responsible for a child which they have produced. For example if a married couple separated and had a baby that was still breast-feeding, I think the father should pay half the costs. The mother should not suffer because she is biologically tied to the survival of the baby. Maybe i'm wrong or maybe this is one issue where I stray from pure libertarianism but I don't think liberty equates with leaving the mother to fend for herself because she is biologically forced to do so for the survival of the child.

[Ron LOL]

What was O'Reilly's name for the "Daily Show" crowd? Stoned slackers? :D

[ecliptic]

It was my belief that the constitution dealt with federal government. DUI is a state issue if i'm not mistaken. The constitution has no authority over the states. The arrest of people whose "crime" is the contents of their bloodstream is in clear violation of the Constitution. This opens up a nightmare police state of George Orwell's "1984" - what else in your blood stream might be made "illegal" in the future? Perhaps you don't have the right "genes" for Karl Rove's vision of a "better Amerika"?

As to your statement regarding parental responsibility - yes of course parents should share the costs of children. BUT - and this a huuuuuuuge but - creating an enforcement Gestapo for that purpose - with extraordinary powers of seizure and "debtors prison" ... is another example of using a "good intention" to rob a segment of the people of their Constitutional rights ... and move inexorably towards a police state.

AND - 85% of the time the mother CHOOSES to force divorce. This is the scourge called "no-fault" divorce. This is harmful to the children. That is 100% established fact - divorce is harmful to the children, yet these selfish (mostly) mothers are REWARDED by the state with the financial incentive program fraudulently called "child support". Follow the money and learn about the details of this scam. Don't fall for the "sound bites".

The massive increases in divorce are one of the ways the entire population is being oppressed. By creating a huge incentive / encouragement matrix - the destruction of families has been facilitated. We all suffer from increased crime, drug abuse, and many other of societies ills all linked conclusively to fatherlessness. The myth that these fathers are "abandoning" their children needs to be stopped.

Exiled Fathers (http://www.exiledfathers.org/#EXPOSE)

[Joe3113]

The arrest of people whose "crime" is the contents of their bloodstream is in clear violation of the Constitution. This opens up a nightmare police state of George Orwell's "1984" - what else in your blood stream might be made "illegal" in the future? Perhaps you don't have the right "genes" for Karl Rove's vision of a "better Amerika"?


I completely get your point and I agree, but DUI is a state issue. The constitution outlines specific topics for which the federal government has a mandate to create law. DUI is not one of them.


As for the child support thing, it certainly is a complicated issue. I wouldn't pretend to have a rigid opinion on something I have not studied. So maybe you are correct or maybe not.

[Ron LOL]

D.U.I. Inc. is big busine$$ and is in blatant violation of the Constitution. What's the difference between arresting you for the chemical composition of your bloodstream and "pre-crime"? Do you see where this could lead . . . ?

No, I really don't see where it could lead and I don't think you do either. You seem to be wanting to argue that drunks may at some indeterminate point in the oh-so-scary future be arrested for, say, coming within 100m of an automobile for chance that they might drive it somewhere. That's ridiculous, but at the same time, I wouldn't fault a city for not allowing large parking lots to be zoned within a certain (prohibitively long) distance of bars. Would you call that being punished for pre-crime? I call it not such a bad idea.

If you cause another individual harm as a result of having consumed something that caused you to lose control, be it drugs or alcohol or whatever, you're not just an asshole -- you're a grossly negligent asshole, and your punishment should be stepped up accordingly. To that end, testing the "chemical composition of your bloodstream" is a reasonable practice.

Have you, or do you know anybody who has ever lost a loved one to a drunk driver?

I firmly believe that DUI penalties aren't stiff enough. Your life should be miserable for a very long time if you're convicted of DUI.


Interesting point. Is this a federal issue? I think both a mother and father should be equally responsible for a child which they have produced.

It is and should be a state issue.

Quick rant...

Child support is a real bugbear for a number of reasons. For one, there's no standard in place that requires the recipient of the child support show that it was actually spent on the child. In a truly perfect world, any extra money would be returned...or at the very least, placed in trust for the child.

For two, the notion that the child support award should be pegged to the income level of the paying party is totally absurd. We all know kids are expensive, but often times child support awards are just ridiculous. The argument for maintaining a certain standard of living that the child has grown accustomed to (or whatever it is) is totally abusive. This should be a voluntary thing.


For something to be meaningful it has to exist in the real world. Cannabis produces distorted perceptions of time, space and distance. I doubt anything meaningful has ever been created as a result of someone getting stoned. :)

I tend to agree with you, but for what it's worth, Steve Jobs has said that doing LSD was one of the most important experiences of his life...and he seems to be doing quite well for himself.

[constituent]

I tend to agree with you, but for what it's worth, Steve Jobs has said that doing LSD was one of the most important experiences of his life...and he seems to be doing quite well for himself.

oh nooooes, not the manson juice.... quick hide your children and turn off your mac right away!


lol


.....as a side note, do you think leary was a plant used to discredit legitimate use of mind expanding research chemicals?

[libertarian4321]

The magazine also contains an article about Rob Van Dam and "weed and wrestling"- since 2 WWE wrestlers have already endorsed Ron Paul, I wonder if RVD will as well.

[romeshomey]

It was my belief that the constitution dealt with federal government. DUI is a state issue if i'm not mistaken. The constitution has no authority over the states.


Problem is, each State has its own Constitution, which all have pretty much the same Bill of Rights attached to them.

Either way you look at it, it is unconstitutional.

[Joe3113]

I tend to agree with you, but for what it's worth, Steve Jobs has said that doing LSD was one of the most important experiences of his life...and he seems to be doing quite well for himself.

Important in what way? Maybe he realized you don't need to poison your body to be creative. Maybe he realized that any ideas that you magically come up with after getting high were probably in your brain to begin with. Putting a single, very simple chemical compound in your very complex brain tissue cannot do magic things. It just changes neurotransmitter levels and firing thresholds. People perceive the effects as some sort of magical creative explosion when it's just a series of chemical reactions. Creativity is something that is learned over a long period. Neural connections form in complex ways over your lifetime. Creativity cannot be explained by a small chemical compound. My friends are not arty or creative people in the slightest and they smoke marijuana regularly and it does not help them become more creative.

Sorry for the rant. Did I make my point :D ?

[ecliptic]

No, I really don't see where it could lead and I don't think you do either. You seem to be wanting to argue that drunks may at some indeterminate point in the oh-so-scary future be arrested for, say, coming within 100m of an automobile for chance that they might drive it somewhere. That's ridiculous, but at the same time, I wouldn't fault a city for not allowing large parking lots to be zoned within a certain (prohibitively long) distance of bars. Would you call that being punished for pre-crime? I call it not such a bad idea.
If you cause another individual harm as a result of having consumed something that caused you to lose control, be it drugs or alcohol or whatever, you're not just an asshole -- you're a grossly negligent asshole, and your punishment should be stepped up accordingly. To that end, testing the "chemical composition of your bloodstream" is a reasonable practice.
Have you, or do you know anybody who has ever lost a loved one to a drunk driver?
I firmly believe that DUI penalties aren't stiff enough. Your life should be miserable for a very long time if you're convicted of DUI.
It is and should be a state issue.

This is a great example of how a powerful issue - the senseless loss of a loved one to a careless drunk driver - is turned into an excuse for "roadside checkpoints" with breathalizers, blood tests, ( what's next - roadside proctology exams? ).... and more and more police state measures which DON'T make you safer but DO make you more a "slave of the state".

The truth about "alcohol-related fatalities" (http://www.iwasthestate.com/2007/11/truth-about-alcohol-related-fatalities.html)

If you want the Government to "make your life 100% safe" you are seeking an illusion and you will get only enslavement. Be careful what you wish for...

If you want to honestly analyze this issue - think about this: There are existing laws which require bartenders to stop serving drunks. Where is the enforcement of THOSE laws? Why aren't we focused on THESE lawbreakers? Once again - simply follow the money for your easy answer. There exists an "unspoken cartel" between the bars making the money on the "front end" of this scam.... and the court system and "related services" making big money on the "back end"...

It's not about making you safe - it's about making money while robbing you of your rights.


Child support is a real bugbear for a number of reasons. For one, there's no standard in place that requires the recipient of the child support show that it was actually spent on the child. In a truly perfect world, any extra money would be returned...or at the very least, placed in trust for the child.

For two, the notion that the child support award should be pegged to the income level of the paying party is totally absurd. We all know kids are expensive, but often times child support awards are just ridiculous. The argument for maintaining a certain standard of living that the child has grown accustomed to (or whatever it is) is totally abusive. This should be a voluntary thing.

The state has absolutely no right to determine how much money I spend raising my children. More fundamentally, the state cannot deny any parent so-called "custody" without first showing cause. The Supreme court has so ruled. Yet this happens every single day in America. Families are forcibly ripped apart under the mantra "best interests of the child" when in fact this is proven to be the WORST thing for the child.

This means that "no-fault" divorces involving children should not give ANY custody to the party which is abandoning a marriage without cause.

Yet another example of the government using "good intentions" to worm its way into areas it doesn't belong and making things far worse by it's presence!

[ecliptic]

It's less harmful than alcohol and we're sick of the lies about it.

It isn't harmful at all in moderation using advanced vaporizer technique.

And let's remember that alcohol is good for you - up to around two to three drinks a day in moderation. It thins your blood and more importantly it can reduce stress ( which is what's really killing Americans by the hundreds of thousands.... where's the "war on stress"??? )



The "pothead" label is going to be thrown around regardless because he has been pro-legalization, anti-drug war forever. This whole revolution is going to make those stereotyped, propaganda-influenced labels obsolete anyway.

Let's all make an effort to replace "their" labels and reverse-speak with OUR words.

"Mainstream media" or MSM? ~ NOT ANYMORE! Now we call them "Olde Media"

"pothead" or "dope" ? ~ NOT! Howzabout "cannabis connoisseur" or maybe "herbalist" { making the little "quotes" with your hands }

"child support" ? ~ NO! That's a LIE! it's actually "divorce incentive$"

"no-fault" divorce? ~ LIE! it's really "oath-breaker" divorce

"conspiracy theorist" / "kook" / "nutter" / "tin foil hat" ~ ( only folks with losing arguments need to resort to attack-the-messenger ) how about "advanced geopolitics aficionado" or maybe "deep politics researcher" ...

To hell with the Olde Media and their bullshit propaganda.

[greendiseaser]

For all the people saying, "THIS IS NOT GOOD PUBLICITY",

RON PAUL was on Wolf Blitzer's Situation Room yesterday, and WHEN ASKED ABOUT DOMESTIC POLICY, "what would you do?", HE LEAD OFF WITH STOPPING EXPENDITURES ON MARIJUANA CRIMES IN CALIFORNIA!

The man is exposing the issue himself.
If you think getting pot heads to vote at the expense of some mainstream media backlash is a problem, you are probably paranoid,and need another bong hit to settle down!

[romeshomey]

Bump

[dougkeenan]

Wow, both Marc and Jodie! Welcome and thanks for everything. All prayers for your success in that despicable matter. I hope you guys know you're really popular down here. Maybe not like Ron Paul but he's had more time. :)

And thanks for having the guts to sign your names to your posts too. It's pathetic how anonymity shrivels the weaker spirit.

[krott5333]

this is great news. I was at Barnes & Noble today, picked up a copy of Reason and a copy of Liberty.. both featured Ron Paul on the cover.

and then I check out the marijuana magazines, right away found plenty of good articles about Ron Paul.



by the way.. what kind of bong is that? the frosted one...

[Peppy690]

i think my friend had that frosted one.... ;)

[krott5333]

found it:

http://www.getgear.ca/

[life_is_good]

Paul for potheads, er, I mean, president. :p

[Geronimo]

"Dope for America"

[life_is_good]

Paul for Hooters. :)

Think the late night joksters (Leno, etc) might use this magazine cover on their shows? Maybe we could donate 'em a copy. Any advertising is good when your name is Ron Paul.

Thoughts?