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Cleaner44
01-02-2008, 06:03 PM
I am suspicous of all of this last minute media attention for Ron Paul and how they are finally admitting that he has massive support.
Why the sudden change?
Do they have a new tactic to unleash?
What comes next?

OptionsTrader
01-02-2008, 06:05 PM
To cover themselves just in case.

Original_Intent
01-02-2008, 06:05 PM
No, they just have been trying to run us off and get us to support someone else with all their naysaying.

They know it didn't work and are now trying to look "fair and balanced".

That is it and this is a last minute effort to retain some credibility. that's it.

Electrostatic
01-02-2008, 06:06 PM
Here on the Situation Room they are talking about the possible Paul and/or Obama factor in Iowa tomorrow...
Here's to Paul winning and Hillary loosing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrsROPaaQTM

mconder
01-02-2008, 06:07 PM
Anyone else notice the media is suddenly acknowledging RP support at the last minute?

If they would have started this a month ago instead of fawning over Huckleberry, we'd would have won by a landslide. Too bad we're only going to get 1 day of it before Iowa.

ladyliberty
01-02-2008, 06:09 PM
I think maybe, just maybe, they are finally realizing just exactly who Ron Paul Supporters actually are - people who own stocks that can be sold, people who write letters and boycott businesses when we need to, people who are not the crackpot flakey nutjobs that they claimed we were.

Perhaps they realize that WE are the People of these United States, and that we are mad as hell and we are not going to take it anymore!!!

OceanMachine7
01-02-2008, 06:09 PM
I just hope they're not building us up to tear us down. That wouldn't surprise me in the least.

CavortingChicken
01-02-2008, 06:10 PM
Anyone else notice the media is suddenly acknowledging RP support at the last minute?

If they would have started this a month ago instead of fawning over Huckleberry, we'd would have won by a landslide. Too bad we're only going to get 1 day of it before Iowa.

yea but i'm sure everyone in iowa is watching more today than in the past month. It's better to leave them with a ron paul taste in their mouth before they go to bed, and vote in the morning.

fedup100
01-02-2008, 06:11 PM
They read these forum posts and I believe they have seen the light as far as the awesome power as a group we can weld. I do think they have a fall back plan to cheat him, but they don't want us to call their sponsors and dump or fiddle with their stocks at all.

Don't fall for it, we need to go after all of them and bring them down or the Republic can never recover or remain.

deedles
01-02-2008, 06:13 PM
I just hope they're not building us up to tear us down. That wouldn't surprise me in the least.

something along those lines is what occurs to me... I trust them ZERO :(

FreedomProsperityPeace
01-02-2008, 06:13 PM
To cover themselves just in case.
Yes, that's the only thing I can think of. It's some sort of CYA tactic. I just wonder what they've learned that makes them think it's necessary.

Thumper
01-02-2008, 06:14 PM
Personally I think they are hedging their bets, on top of that they're all shitting twinkies over the hell that has been unleashed on FOX by RP supporters and they know they could be next. They're trying to "go along and get along". The days of the MSM are numbered and they are going to try to hold on as long as they can. Don't fall for it, don't trust them for a minute.

By the same token, it's so good to see the Doc getting decent coverage in a fair way.

familydog
01-02-2008, 06:14 PM
yea but i'm sure everyone in iowa is watching more today than in the past month. It's better to leave them with a ron paul taste in their mouth before they go to bed, and vote in the morning.

Yes. I'd rather have them shill for Paul all day just today than have a media surge like Huckabee did all month. Less negative attention for us.

JPFromTally
01-02-2008, 06:14 PM
It's all about those stupid polls to them...

constitutional
01-02-2008, 06:15 PM
I just hope they're not building us up to tear us down. That wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Same here...

DealzOnWheelz
01-02-2008, 06:15 PM
yeah they are loving Ron Paul today

Cleaner44
01-02-2008, 06:16 PM
They read these forum posts and I believe they have seen the light as far as the awesome power as a group we can weld. I do think they have a fall back plan to cheat him, but they don't want us to call their sponsors and dump or fiddle with their stocks at all.

Don't fall for it, we need to go after all of them and bring them down or the Republic can never recover or remain.

I am starting to think this is the beginning of publically treating him well while they step up the efforts behind the scene. Could be that I am just a bit cynical.

freelance
01-02-2008, 06:18 PM
To cover themselves just in case.

OR

TPTB have discovered that Huckabee is a loose cannon. First, he gave that press conference where he aired "THE" ad against Romney without the higher up in his campaign staff (including Ed Rollins) knowing what he was going to do. Further, the media has spoken today about several days' worth of mistakes that Huckabee has made. I have no idea what they're talking about, but if the glow is beginning to fade in the eyes of TPTB, perhaps they're trying to shave off a few % points from Huckabee and throw them to Ron Paul for a Romney win.

That's the only explanation I can come up with, UNLESS they know that he's going to win. I'd bet that it's one or the other.

manny
01-02-2008, 06:18 PM
I just hope they're not building us up to tear us down. That wouldn't surprise me in the least.


They tried this to some extent after the ames straw poll, suddenly talking about him in the 12hrs before - along the lines of - will he get 3rd or better or is his support "just the net" (remember Fox seem to think it's 1994 and only weirdos go online). They knew RP wasn't pushing the straw poll but they lied anyway.

There will be some of that I expect tomorrow. I don't think anyone knows the result and this does make the MSM nervous; they might get egg on their faces.

Proemio
01-02-2008, 06:20 PM
I am suspicous of all of this last minute media attention for Ron Paul and how they are finally admitting that he has massive support.
Why the sudden change?
Do they have a new tactic to unleash?
What comes next?

No new tactic. It's all about salvaging what little credibility is left.

It's like the 'scientific' pollsters: double the number in the last days and mention - again and again and again - how notoriously unreliable polls tend to be in Iowas and NH, presumably because there is a magnetic anomaly or something.

Take Blitzer for example; there is nothing he says now, he didn't know at least a month ago, more likely two, if not longer. Big deal, mentioning it now when the rubber is about to meet the road. They are out of tactics for this week.

What comes next? Obviously downplaying the significance of the results of "two states that are not really representative" - for all it's worth...

tonyTheBest
01-02-2008, 06:21 PM
They are setting us up for failure. We can't let this happen. People need to come out and vote.
If the number comes in in the low end, they will say we gave you a fair shot but you just can't win.
If the number comes in in the high end, they won't be blamed for ignoring him.
So people just need to come out and vote for Dr Paul.

freedom-maniac
01-02-2008, 06:21 PM
I just hope they're not building us up to tear us down. That wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Two words:

"HOWARD" and "DEAN"

freedom-maniac
01-02-2008, 06:25 PM
Here's to Paul winning and Hillary loosing...

I'll make a toast to that!

I'm a libertarian Democrat, but the Hillary machine made me say "Sucks to the Dems, I'm for Ron Paul!" I'm hoping he picks Kucinich for his Veep, so that way the left has some voice in Paul's administration.

chiplitfam
01-02-2008, 06:25 PM
My greatest fear is that they know the eletion is going to be rigged. Therefore, they knew they were going to win. I hope I am completely wrong. I do predict a Ron Paul victory tomorrow night.

kill the banks
01-02-2008, 06:25 PM
do not underestimate the power of the industrial military banking complex ... they own media and so much more ... i expected if they knew we were doing much better than their polls indicated they would at last minute show indicators of our ' unexpected support ' to legitimize their effort in past polling to minimize our exposure and slow our progress with viewers ... neocons believe in the lie and will truly stop at nothing to stop us

kill the banks

curtisag
01-02-2008, 06:25 PM
The media pundits will be saying, only a small percentage votes in Iowa, so Ron Paul's percentage isn't accurate. His small band of supporters just spammed the poll together like they do online.

jm1776
01-02-2008, 06:26 PM
I think maybe, just maybe, they are finally realizing just exactly who Ron Paul Supporters actually are - people who own stocks that can be sold, people who write letters and boycott businesses when we need to, people who are not the crackpot flakey nutjobs that they claimed we were.

Perhaps they realize that WE are the People of these United States, and that we are mad as hell and we are not going to take it anymore!!!

+1

werdd
01-02-2008, 06:26 PM
they are covering there asses, they are finally realizing, what if??

RonRules
01-02-2008, 06:28 PM
The MSM is frantically opening up to Ron Paul. It's so they'll have been "right" if he wins.

Here's a wonderful article from one tough newspaper:
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.ht...7-de49cfb49e48

Young and in Love by Eve Fairbanks
The congressman from Texas has the race's best batch of student volunteers.
Post Date Wednesday, January 02, 2008
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werdd
01-02-2008, 06:28 PM
I'll make a toast to that!

I'm a libertarian Democrat, but the Hillary machine made me say "Sucks to the Dems, I'm for Ron Paul!" I'm hoping he picks Kucinich for his Veep, so that way the left has some voice in Paul's administration.

keep hoping

FreeTraveler
01-02-2008, 06:30 PM
Don't Fall For This Ploy!!!

They're hoping we'll be complacent now, and not bother to go to the polls or do whatever we're planning tomorrow.

NOBODY should take this as a sign that just ONE LESS supporter won't matter tomorrow. Carry on, to victory!

MsDoodahs
01-02-2008, 06:38 PM
I am suspicous of all of this last minute media attention for Ron Paul and how they are finally admitting that he has massive support.
Why the sudden change?
Do they have a new tactic to unleash?
What comes next?

My guess: the mainstream knows that Dr. Paul's public "poll" numbers do not match up with internal polling data - and they know the pollsters are missing a large chunk of Dr. Paul's support due to techno advances (see John Zogby's comments on this very subject in his press release from ... I think it was 2004.) In the past, I think the tactics the MSM have used against Dr. Paul would have worked to effectively eliminate that candidate from the running.

Think about it - they consistently report him in single digits in "polling" (which is intended to sway opinion - see Frank Luntz and yes, eff you Frank). They've ignored Dr. Paul in an effort to stop the campaign's growth. They've openly called him FINISHED (That guy, Steele, HEAD of the GOP did that on Hannity after the first Fox debate). They've called him a flake, kooky, a crackpot (MSNBC's David Shutester, FoxNewsPorn's Bill O'Relly, and CNN's Soledad OBrian). They've been HORRIFICALLY rude (oh, the list here is downright frikken endless).

All that was designed to stop Dr. Paul. And all that failed because of one thing. THE INTERNETS.

So maybe they're trying to avoid looking like kooks themselves.

Of course, the other possibility is that ... well, they do talk among themselves...

I believe word got out fast and furious that we are coordinating - the same way we did for money bombs - to have a FINANCIAL IMPACT - through boycotting their advertisers.

We're a large group, we're organized and connected. We aren't just able to raise money for Dr. Paul's campaign.

We're equally able to do the UNTHINKABLE: We can leverage pressure against "news" outlets that attempt to subvert the American political process by boycotting their momma's milk: advertisers.

So now, they're running scared.

JMO and YMMV. :)

Mark
01-02-2008, 06:57 PM
I think maybe, just maybe, they are finally realizing just exactly who Ron Paul Supporters actually are - people who own stocks that can be sold, people who write letters and boycott businesses when we need to, people who are not the crackpot flakey nutjobs that they claimed we were.

Perhaps they realize that WE are the People of these United States, and that we are mad as hell and we are not going to take it anymore!!!

Just had to give that a: QFT +1

And not just the MSM - the Status Quo Power Structure better figure it out too - and fast - physically and spiritually

Dave Pedersen
01-02-2008, 07:04 PM
I am suspicous of all of this last minute media attention for Ron Paul and how they are finally admitting that he has massive support.
Why the sudden change?
Do they have a new tactic to unleash?
What comes next?

I'm afraid they have only one option. Associate the success of Ron Paul to one issue: the war. Then attempt to totally deflate the constitution movement by staging another false flag. By giving the anti-war vote to both Edwards and Ron Paul the pundits will speak constantly of Ron Paul as the candidate who succeeds in spite of his controversial domestic policies simply because he is the only anti-war candidate on the GOP side. Just look at Edwards' success as proof it is the war, stupid.

Then the false flag attack which will hopefully disenchant Ron Paul and out goes the movement to restore the constitution along with our "anti-war" candidate.

parke
01-02-2008, 07:11 PM
Thats funny.. I was looking for a thread like this.

Its VERY suspect. They know that Paul is going to be a huge factor and they are trying to act like mum is the word. They dont want to get caught with pants down and say.. 'we didnt see it coming'

Screw em all. Tucker is my dude..

speciallyblend
01-02-2008, 07:36 PM
blimpin, THE MSM IS SWEATING BULLETS

GO RON PAUL and SUPPORTERS

fuzzybekool
01-02-2008, 07:47 PM
I am suspicous of all of this last minute media attention for Ron Paul and how they are finally admitting that he has massive support.
Why the sudden change?
Do they have a new tactic to unleash?
What comes next?

Because the Media knows they will lose all credibility if they keep insisting their fake polls are right, when it is so obvious they are wrong. In other words, the MSM does not want to be obsolete, which is where it is going anyway.

Akus
01-02-2008, 07:51 PM
I am suspicous of all of this last minute media attention for Ron Paul and how they are finally admitting that he has massive support.
Why the sudden change?
Do they have a new tactic to unleash?
What comes next?

i can't agree
if I were judging the current Presidential election situation, Ron Paul doesn't exist, or isn't running, or is running some kind of a super small fringe irrelevant underfunded campaign no one knows about.

ecliptic
01-02-2008, 07:52 PM
There is a big media conspiracy. You can see it in several movies showing "talking points" repeated over and over by different "talking heads" on different networks - like a "propaganda bomb" ... this is real - it happens and it's been repeatedly documented. So if it's true that the Olde ( and moldy ) Media is suddenly "noticing" Ron Paul or acting as if "they were on the story all along" . . . it could be a good sign!

BUT .... let's not get ahead of ourselves. Humility wins the day. A lot can happen in a day...

Magsec
01-02-2008, 07:59 PM
For last minute undeciders this could be helpful. Otherwise they're just covering their rears for when the lawsuits start rolling in.