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cindy25
01-02-2008, 01:39 AM
the most important issue the separates Ron paul and the other republicans is the war, the war and the war.

too many of us are getting sidetracked.

brandon
01-02-2008, 01:43 AM
umm, ok? There are a lot of other issues that seperate him from the others that some of us may see as more important. You don't think the federal reserve or civil liberties are important?

noztnac
01-02-2008, 01:45 AM
the most important issue the separates Ron paul and the other republicans is the war, the war and the war.

too many of us are getting sidetracked.

I disagree.

I think far more important issues are monetary policy and civil liberties. Those are also issues that set RP apart from the other candidates.

Not all Republicans are in agreement with Ron Paul on the war issue.

xexkxex
01-02-2008, 01:46 AM
the most important issue the separates Ron paul and the other republicans is the war, the war and the war.

too many of us are getting sidetracked.

It is a different issue, or combination there of, at different emotional and intellectual levels for every person.

...it's in the eye of the beholder...if you will. ;)

rasheedwallace
01-02-2008, 01:49 AM
i agree.


its the war, stupid!

Molly1
01-02-2008, 01:52 AM
BRAVO!!

It's what separates Ron Paul from the pack--in both parties.

MayTheRonBeWithYou
01-02-2008, 02:12 AM
Agreed. Since the HQ is not putting out any anti-war ads, we should focus our grassroots efforts on the war. 70% of the pubilc agrees that we should stop fighting these stupid wars. All the other GOP sheep favor the current policy, so this is where we can really make our mark.

"It's the Wars, stupid."

Liberty Star
01-02-2008, 03:18 AM
It is the War.



It is a different issue, or combination there of, at different emotional and intellectual levels for every person.

...it's in the eye of the beholder...if you will. ;)

It is true, it's in the eyes of the beholder. But Ron Paul's clear and bold stance on Iraq war has been the biggest catalyst that differentiated him from rest of the same-same GOP lineup and propelled him to where he is today. This issue is not being effectively exploited and capitalized on by campaign. They are trying to look like rest of the candidates lately, that's a mistake.

Unspun
01-02-2008, 03:22 AM
There is more than one war, it is our interventionist policy that is ONE of the most important policy views, of many, that he holds. Economic, Monetary policy, Civil Liberties, Immigration--all very important issues.

xexkxex
01-02-2008, 03:22 AM
It is the War.




It is true, it's in the eyes of the beholder. But Ron Paul's clear and bold stance on Iraq war has been the biggest catalyst that differentiated him from rest of the same-same GOP lineup and propelled him to where he is today. This issue is not being effectively exploited and capitalized on by campaign. They are trying to look like rest of the candidates lately, that's a mistake.

Again, people flock to Ron Paul for different reasons. War is not the top issue for all people like the OP stated....or at least I felt they insinuated.

It's just a fact. People have opinions and some do not feel that the war is the #1 priority for them. That is what this thread was about....it's not "just the war stup....."

.....I'll leave off the stupid part, cause i just think that is not necessary. :p

I do agree with you though, HQ does need to push the war a little harder....given that it is the "obvious" issue he stand out on.

....most people are just not educated enough to understand other issues...like monetary policy for example...;)

princessredtights
01-02-2008, 08:54 AM
There is more than one war, it is our interventionist policy that is ONE of the most important policy views, of many, that he holds. Economic, Monetary policy, Civil Liberties, Immigration--all very important issues.


Exactly!


I was thinking the other night, I wish RP would focus more on economic issues - As I've been canvassing, I ask people what they think is the most important issue facing our country at this time ... I am hearing "economy" more and more each week ...

TwiLeXia
01-02-2008, 09:01 AM
Ron Paul should capitalize more on the economy and the war. Those are the two main issues.

He can forget the abortion and the immigration and the gun control. No offense sir, but in the end when you're president, you're not going to do anything about it anyway, besides give the power back to the states. So why talk about it now?

Plus, most people don't care about guns, immigration, or abortion. They care about themselves, and that means the economy. And what is killing the economy? The war.

It's all correlated. RP's positions on immaterial things such as education and health care should NOT be broadcasted. In my opinion, that's pandering. Instead they should simply talk about things that ALL people care about - money.

Start talking about money. Talk about why the Iraq war is killing our system, and that soon we'll all be in debt. Talk about how we can pay so much less taxes if we get the hell out of Iraq. Talk about how a non-interventionist foreign policy can seriously benefit the US and our pocketbooks.

No Americans will tell you that all they care about is money. And that's true.

But they certainly care about money the most. And that's one issue that all Americans can agree on.

BlutStein
01-02-2008, 09:01 AM
While you could say "Its the War, Stupid!"....it could also work as "Its the Constitution, Stupid!".

Covers taxes, war, money and liberties.

Liberty Star
01-02-2008, 05:44 PM
2007 was the deadliest year in Iraq

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2233698,00.html




30% of Iraqis either dead, or injured, or orphaned children

published (http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_michael__080101_m_collinls_3a__forget_.htm)



All result of an unnecessary pre-emptive war . Perhaps situation there can be upgraded from disastrous to just terrible by MSM spin masters.

Liberty Star
01-02-2008, 06:38 PM
Again, people flock to Ron Paul for different reasons. War is not the top issue for all people like the OP stated....or at least I felt they insinuated.

It's just a fact. People have opinions and some do not feel that the war is the #1 priority for them. That is what this thread was about....it's not "just the war stup....."

.....I'll leave off the stupid part, cause i just think that is not necessary. :p

I do agree with you though, HQ does need to push the war a little harder....given that it is the "obvious" issue he stand out on.

....most people are just not educated enough to understand other issues...like monetary policy for example...;)

I agree, RP supporters have been motivated by different reasons and in fact varioues raesons are tied to one another. But no issue has the urgency and emotional impact like the war / foreign policy issue and it directly ties to taxation that has been supporting $2 Billion per week being spent on Operation Iraq Freedom slash reconstruction to satisfy needs of this elective war. Many people from various political and ideological streams have joined RP campaign because of his clear and bold war/foreign policy/liberties stance. As an example, Trevor joined because he wanted to end the war and I know many others for whom this issue is the top priority. Yes we all want a Constitutional regime with sound fiscal policies and balanced budget but that alone doesn't motivate so many people to donate for the first time with the zeal they have been.

Do you know box with which label Ron Paul chose to dump first skipping the IRS box during Boston Teay Party revolt? LOL

FreeTraveler
01-02-2008, 06:44 PM
While you could say "Its the War, Stupid!"....it could also work as "Its the Constitution, Stupid!".

Covers taxes, war, money and liberties.

Definately, for me, it's more about the Constitution. Obama says he's against the war now, and there's no way I'd vote for him, because he's a socialist in lots of other areas.

noztnac
01-02-2008, 06:48 PM
Right now RP should focus on monetary policy and economic issues. He's trying to win the Republican nomination.

In the general election he should use the war in a big way along with civil liberties, etc.

axiomata
01-02-2008, 06:59 PM
It will always be the economy, stupid, for me.

But thanks for trying to dictate everybody else's priorities.

Paul10
01-02-2008, 07:04 PM
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