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Bradley in DC
01-01-2008, 05:23 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7656.html

Ron Paul pressures Fox News
By: Mike Allen
Jan 1, 2008 01:40 PM EST

Ron Paul’s campaign says he’s planning an alternative event at the same time as the Fox New Channel’s Republican forum in New Hampshire on Sunday if the network continues to hold back on an invitation, a campaign official tells Politico.

Already, blogs are alive with cries of “censorship” from Paul’s vocal and prolific followers.

Jesse Benton, Paul’s national press secretary, said he likely would hold a town hall with New Hampshire citizens — an event that would amount to counter-programming and would likely generate considerable publicity for the anti-war libertarian.

“We’re not going to sit around and cry about it,” Benton said.

“By all metrics, there is only a case for including Dr. Paul in the forum. We think it’s a little bit of a head-scratcher.”

Paul announced he raised $19.5 million in the last quarter of the year, and party sources say that is more than any other Republican campaign.

Fox News has not specified its exact criteria for the debate, but debate planners have long yearned to winnow the cast to permit more substantive and detailed conversation.

Fox has said it will make its final announcement about invitations after Thursday’s Iowa caucuses.

Benton said the campaign has placed about six calls to Marty Ryan, executive producer of political programming for Fox News Channel but said they have not been returned.

Ryan did not immediately return an e-mail seeking comment on New Year’s Day.

Paul will participate in an ABC debate in New Hampshire on Saturday night, Benton said.

Micahyah
01-01-2008, 05:59 PM
Because of our work, this looks to be a net positive for Paul.

Hopefully the volunteers in Iowa will be energized by all of this.

When Ron Paul delivers in Iowa in the polls, it will BLOW UP IN FOX'S FACE.

Thomas Paine
01-01-2008, 06:02 PM
You know, Fox News' claims that it wants a more substantive debate is pure bullshit given the stupid and idiotic questions that have been asked at the debates thus far.

WilliamC
01-01-2008, 06:07 PM
You know, Fox News' claims that it wants a more substantive debate is pure bullshit given the stupid and idiotic questions that have been asked at the debates thus far.

Exactly. They want a controlled debate where no uncomfortable truths will be spoken and all of the candidates will agree to disagree over pre-decided issues. If Ron Paul is there the powers-that-be lose control of the conversations and of the process.

Everything is going exactly as planned :)

Well, at least if Ron Paul places in the top 3 in Iowa that is.

xexkxex
01-01-2008, 06:08 PM
When Ron Paul delivers in Iowa in the polls, it will BLOW UP IN FOX'S FACE.

That is why "Fox has said it will make its final announcement about invitations after Thursday’s Iowa caucuses."

After we smash the caucus, Fox will be forced to have Ron Paul at the table.

....which is sad. He should have been invited regardless.

MayTheRonBeWithYou
01-01-2008, 06:17 PM
Fox has said it will make its final announcement about invitations after Thursday’s Iowa caucuses.

Benton said the campaign has placed about six calls to Marty Ryan, executive producer of political programming for Fox News Channel but said they have not been returned.

Ryan did not immediately return an e-mail seeking comment on New Year’s Day.




Marty Ryan -- Fox News Channel
Title: Executive Producer - Political Coverage
E-mail: marty.ryan@foxnews.com
Phone: (202) 824-6403
Fax: (212) 301-4229
Address: 1211 Ave of the Americas, New York, NY 10036

mrabon5211
01-01-2008, 06:36 PM
If you call Marty, and his mailbox is full you can hit *0 and you may be able to reach a breathing person. I did :) The lady I spoke to also said that he would be back in the office tomorrow.

MsDoodahs
01-01-2008, 06:41 PM
You know, Fox News' claims that it wants a more substantive debate is pure bullshit given the stupid and idiotic questions that have been asked at the debates thus far.

God knows that is the truth.

gerryb
01-01-2008, 06:41 PM
Marty Ryan -- Fox News Channel
Title: Executive Producer - Political Coverage
E-mail: marty.ryan@foxnews.com
Phone: (202) 824-6403
Fax: (212) 301-4229
Address: 1211 Ave of the Americas, New York, NY 10036

I will be calling tomorrow.. hope everyone else does as well


If you call Marty, and his mailbox is full you can hit *0 and you may be able to reach a breathing person. I did :) The lady I spoke to also said that he would be back in the office tomorrow.

good to know..

BeFranklin
01-02-2008, 01:27 AM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7656.html

Ron Paul pressures Fox News
By: Mike Allen
Jan 1, 2008 01:40 PM EST

Ron Paul’s campaign says he’s planning an alternative event at the same time as the Fox New Channel’s Republican forum in New Hampshire on Sunday if the network continues to hold back on an invitation, a campaign official tells Politico.

Paul will participate in an ABC debate in New Hampshire on Saturday night, Benton said.

I think there is enough momentum that we can get at least one other competing network to cover it.

kill the banks
01-02-2008, 01:33 AM
"neoconned" again !

http://www.youtube.com/v/lvHJzRe9xHo&rel=1

This is from Ron's classic speech "Neoconned" that he gave on the house floor July 10, 2003.

You can read and watch the 50 minute whole speech here at the Ron Paul Library
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=630

More important than the names of people affiliated with neo-conservatism are the views they adhere to. Here is a brief summary of the general understanding of what neocons believe:

They agree with Trotsky on permanent revolution, violent as well as intellectual.

They are for redrawing the map of the Middle East and are willing to use force to do so.

They believe in preemptive war to achieve desired ends.

They accept the notion that the ends justify the means—that hardball politics is a moral necessity.

They express no opposition to the welfare state.

They are not bashful about an American empire; instead they strongly endorse it.

They believe lying is necessary for the state to survive.

They believe a powerful federal government is a benefit.

They believe pertinent facts about how a society should be run should be held by the elite and withheld from those who do not have the courage to deal with it.

They believe neutrality in foreign affairs is ill advised.

They hold Leo Strauss in high esteem.

They believe imperialism, if progressive in nature, is appropriate.

Using American might to force American ideals on others is acceptable. *Force should not be limited to the defense of our country.

9-11 resulted from the lack of foreign entanglements, not from too many.

They dislike and despise libertarians (therefore, the same applies to all strict constitutionalists.)

They endorse attacks on civil liberties, such as those found in the Patriot Act, as being necessary.

They unconditionally support Israel and have a close alliance with the Likud Party.

Various organizations and publications over the last 30 years have played a significant role in the rise to power of the neoconservatives. It took plenty of money and commitment to produce the intellectual arguments needed to convince the many participants in the movement of its respectability.

It is no secret—especially after the rash of research and articles written about the neocons since our invasion of Iraq—how they gained influence and what organizations were used to promote their cause. Although for decades, they agitated for their beliefs through publications like The National Review, The Weekly Standard, The Public Interest, The Wall Street Journal ,Commentary , and the New York Post , their views only gained momentum in the 1990s following the first Persian Gulf War—which still has not ended even with removal of Saddam Hussein. They became convinced that a much more militant approach to resolving all the conflicts in the Middle East was an absolute necessity, and they were determined to implement that policy.

In addition to publications, multiple think tanks and projects were created to promote their agenda. A product of the Bradley Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) led the neocon charge, but the real push for war came from the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) another organization helped by the Bradley Foundation. This occurred in 1998 and was chaired by Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol. They urged early on for war against Iraq

kill the banks

ForTheRevolution
01-02-2008, 01:37 AM
“The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses.” -Malcom-X

Lets not let this be the case! They will regret not including us in the debate.

WebFX
01-02-2008, 01:51 AM
Fox News has not specified its exact criteria for the debate, but debate planners have long yearned to winnow the cast to permit more substantive and detailed conversation.


read: Strictly limiting the spectrum of acceptable debate (to then just allow spirited debate within that spectrum.) Pure Manufacturing Consent.

HOLLYWOOD
01-02-2008, 02:00 PM
If you email him... don't put the "Key Words" in the title or message...

FOX IT has turned on the email SPAM SERVER filters to trashcan the RON PAUL/FOX debate, New Hampshire Round Table, etc

just send your opinion in general words...

Menthol Patch
01-02-2008, 02:05 PM
Keep calling and faxing!

Marty Ryan -- Fox News Channel
Title: Executive Producer - Political Coverage
E-mail: marty.ryan@foxnews.com
Phone: (202) 824-6403
Fax: (212) 301-4229
Address: 1211 Ave of the Americas, New York, NY 10036

pinkmandy
01-02-2008, 02:10 PM
You know, Fox News' claims that it wants a more substantive debate is pure bullshit given the stupid and idiotic questions that have been asked at the debates thus far.

Amen. I'd love to see a REAL, lengthy roundtable discussion with all the candidates on foreign policy and monetary policy. I'd wager the other guys would be so inferior to Dr. Paul that they'd lost the majority of their voters to him.

Pauliana
01-02-2008, 02:15 PM
I think lemonade should be the official drink of the Ron Paul Revolution, since we make so much of it! :)

thoughtbombing
01-02-2008, 02:25 PM
I think lemonade should be the official drink of the Ron Paul Revolution, since we make so much of it! :)

This campaign brought to you by (TAKING BACK OUR)Country Time Lemonade

tgannaway89
01-02-2008, 02:28 PM
Or you can use alternative spelling of the words to bypass the filters: R0n Paull N3w Hampsh1re d3bate

Let's get cr3at1ve :)