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Jeremy
01-01-2008, 02:53 PM
What can I show to Barack supporters?

I know he's on the top 10 most corrupt politicians of 2007 list, what else though?

Benaiah
01-01-2008, 02:55 PM
voted to reauthorize Patriot Act (wasn't in office for original Patriot Act), vote to fund Iraq War (wasn't in office to vote for or against war), and voted against taking our troops out of Iraq in 2007.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm#War_+_Peace

From On the Issues:
Voted to fund war until 2006;
Voted NO on redeploying troops out of Iraq by July 2007. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on reauthorizing the PATRIOT Act. (Mar 2006)

kushaze
01-01-2008, 02:55 PM
He missed the vote on Iran. He has missed a lot of votes in the Senate and hasn't even served one term yet. His platform is essentially the same as Hillary's and he has many of Bill Clinton's former staff working for him. He doesn't promise to bring back the troops until 2013, exactly the same as Hillary Clinton.

tsetsefly
01-01-2008, 02:56 PM
voted to reauthorize Patriot Act (wasn't in office for original Patriot Act), vote to fund Iraq War (wasn't in office to vote for or against war), and voted against taking our troops out of Iraq in 2007.

will edit with link in 2 minutes.

and wont control spending...

DZE
01-01-2008, 02:57 PM
Immigration

fuzzybekool
01-01-2008, 02:58 PM
Being from the Chicago area, all you got to do is google Chicago Sun Times Barak Obama and read all about an on going investigation into Obama's financial dealings with an indicted friend - Rezko.

phixion
01-01-2008, 03:00 PM
Quite simply, videos of Ron Paul.

Talking about real issues. The economy, for instance.

Pete

FreedomLover
01-01-2008, 03:03 PM
show them this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQXYYIdjjFg

typical politician, "i dont have an answer, let me talk about other things like I always do"

Obama is all style, no substance.

raystone
01-01-2008, 03:07 PM
http://www.realchange.org/obama.htm



Cocaine
Long before he ever ran for political office, Obama wrote a book about, well, himself, and his amazing his journey from messed up kid to, um, himself. It was quite an epic, considering he was 34 at the time.

In that book, called "Dreams From My Pusher", oops I mean "Dreams From My Father", he writes that he used marijuana and cocaine ("maybe a little blow".) Oddly enough, he writes that he didn't try heroin because -- wait for it -- he didn't like the pusher who was selling it. (Weren't there any other reasons?) In a later interview, he added "Teenage boys are frequently confused."



Favors For (and From) A Shady Chicago Businessman
Barack Obama has been friends with Antoin ("Tony") Rezko since at least 1990. Rezko offered him a job in the early 1990s (declined), and has raised at least $60,000 for Obama's campaigns. In return, Barack arranged an internship in 2005 for John Aramanda, the son of a Rezko business associate (Joseph Aramanda, who himself gave Barack $11,500.)

There's more. In June, 2005, Obama bought a house in Chicago for $1.65 million. The same day, Rezko bought the vacant lot next door for $625,00. Seven months later, Rezko sold Barack a slice (1/6th) of his lot so the Obamas could have a bigger yard. There's no evidence that Rezko bought the vacant land for any other reason than to do Obama a favor.

Here's the real problem: among other problems, Rezko is under indictment in a federal government corruption case for demanding kickbacks from companies wanting to do business with Illinois Governor Blagojevich, another politician that Rezko has befriended and donated to. (Rezko is also under indictment for shaking down a Hollywood producer for $1.5 million in campaign contributions for Blagojevich. The guy takes care of his friends.) In fact, Joseph Aramanda is an unindicted co-conspirator in one of the kickback cases.

Obama has admitted that the land deal was a mistake, and donated $11,500 given to him directly by Rezko to charity.


Educated in a Madrassa?
Fox News ran a story claiming that Obama had been educated in a madrassa school in Indonesia. If you're not familiar with that term, it's a type of fundamentalist Muslim school, often funded by the extremist Wahabi sect of Islam (with Saudi money) and often very anti-American.

There was only one problem with the story: it was completely false. Yes, Obama had gone to school in Indonesia as a kid; two schools in fact. One was Catholic, the other was a public school, with teachers and kids of various faiths.

The only scandal here is that Fox News ran the story with no facts or reporting backing it up. They simply repeated a story from a highly partisan website, with no effort to check out the school. It's there, still open, and easily visited. Reporters who did so found out that the story was false in minutes.

Energy
01-01-2008, 03:07 PM
http://obamaLA.com

iddo
01-01-2008, 03:17 PM
Obama started his pro-war rhetoric in 2004, see Chicago Tribune: Obama would consider missile strikes on Iran (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0409250111sep25,1,7098310.story)

Stealth4
01-01-2008, 03:20 PM
http://obamaLA.com

He missed the vote on raising the debt limit of the united states and in my opinion he belongs to a racist church.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/8/194812.shtml?s=lh

ChickenHawk
01-01-2008, 03:23 PM
Obama is a socialist. If someone is an Obama supporter it is really hard to imagine how they could switch to being a Paul supporter. The only way I can see it happening is if they completely change their political philosophy or never really understood the issues to begin with.