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me3
12-29-2007, 08:33 PM
http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/ron_paul_2008/2007/12/the-time-is-now.html


A year's worth of work is coming down to the next several weeks. Victory can be ours. But we must triple our efforts and triple the amount of money raised right away.

To run radio and television ads in 20 states simultaneously will cost a fortune. Not to mention the cost of voter contact mailings to those 20 states. And then there is the cost of contacting hundreds of thousands of people by phone. All of this, plus other projects, will cost $23 million more than we presently have in the bank.

fxmercenary
12-29-2007, 08:37 PM
www.ronpaul2008.com

Lets do it.

Dustancostine
12-29-2007, 08:37 PM
WoW

acroso
12-29-2007, 08:38 PM
Gawd that's a lot of money...I think Paul himself has to turn up the heat in Iowa and New Hampshire if he wants to raise that kind of money.

He has done just that with that killer new immigration ad.

Unfortunately many of the liberals on this forum don't know what they got into.

angrydragon
12-29-2007, 08:38 PM
$23 million more?

Or total?

Use or buy the grassroots ads!!!

ItsTime
12-29-2007, 08:38 PM
no it says they need 23 MORE million

PimpBlimp
12-29-2007, 08:40 PM
Agreed.

bbachtung
12-29-2007, 08:40 PM
Well, $12 million seemed impossible just 3 months ago . . .

It is good to see more evidence that they are in this to win this.

WilliamC
12-29-2007, 08:40 PM
Now that's a goal! I'm gonna have to look real hard at my financial situation over the next couple of weeks...

Scott Wilson
12-29-2007, 08:41 PM
Just donate what we can when we can.

tsetsefly
12-29-2007, 08:41 PM
oh shit, well everyone get behind the http://freeatlast2008.com/ bomb.. and lol the huckster with his 5 million will be fucked...

IChooseLiberty
12-29-2007, 08:41 PM
Donated $50!!! GO RP!

rollingpig
12-29-2007, 08:41 PM
we need new blood

michaelwise
12-29-2007, 08:41 PM
how much could he get by taking matching funds?

JS4Pat
12-29-2007, 08:42 PM
We need a PLAN!!!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=67705&highlight=Grass+Roots+Initiative+Plan

Jeremy
12-29-2007, 08:42 PM
Inspiring post on the site :)

tsetsefly
12-29-2007, 08:43 PM
btw this means grassroots work will have more impact than in other elections..

PimpBlimp
12-29-2007, 08:43 PM
If we do well in Iowa I'm going to sell all my stock and donate it to the campaign.

szczebrzeszyn
12-29-2007, 08:43 PM
Gotta love Ron's messages and the immediate impact they have on the money tracker :D

stefans
12-29-2007, 08:43 PM
I think they're out of their mind.
23 million more for february 5th?
if you consider the time needed to book advertising, that's 23 million in the next 4 weeks.
not going to happen. they have to work out an alternative.

bobmurph
12-29-2007, 08:44 PM
Sounds like we need a new money bomb in mid January.

kutibah
12-29-2007, 08:44 PM
They NEED that much, that doesn't mean they expect us to raise it. I say we all support a third money bomb!

tsetsefly
12-29-2007, 08:44 PM
Sounds like we need a new money bomb in mid January.

http://freeatlast2008.com/

ItsTime
12-29-2007, 08:45 PM
We should have had one for the New Hampshire Primary.


Sounds like we need a new money bomb in mid January.

kutibah
12-29-2007, 08:45 PM
Freeatlast moneybomb FTW!

Sey.Naci
12-29-2007, 08:45 PM
This email is timed well for the December 31st bomb, wouldn't you say? The goal for that was to surpass $20 million. Well, this email may help that along.

stefans
12-29-2007, 08:45 PM
We need a PLAN!!!

THEY need a plan. 23 million in the next 4 weeks(considering some time for booking and running advertisement) is not realistic.

http://www.donate2008.org

DealzOnWheelz
12-29-2007, 08:45 PM
how much could he get by taking matching funds?

PLEASE READ YOUR QUESTION ALOUD!!!!!!

icon124
12-29-2007, 08:45 PM
dont just donate....we can get millions of votes by taking the time out to show ppl that we really care....go door to door...whatever u have to do....people want to vote for us they just don't know it yet....and that's the honest truth

Cowlesy
12-29-2007, 08:46 PM
We pumped them up an extra $7 million over the $12 million they said they needed at the beginning of this quarter.

So far, and this is only my personal opinion, I haven't seen this windfall produce a whole lot other than get us to the 10% that we figured we'd be at. I'm empty until they can accept General Election cash as a lot of you are, so I am hoping that we see surprises in the early states that will help us push on to that $23.0 million.

Ron LOL
12-29-2007, 08:46 PM
This is, um, ambitious to say the least.

FreedomLover
12-29-2007, 08:47 PM
we need new blood

Coming in top 3 in Iowa and Finishing first or second in New Hampshire will help in that regard.

WilliamC
12-29-2007, 08:47 PM
Greetings All,

I am starting a new thread to encourage everyone to try and donate to meet the 23 MILLION MORE challenge. Please use the project code 23Million and post your confirmations here.


William Colley,

Thank you very much for your donation of $37.89 to the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign.

Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign.

We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of freedom, peace and prosperity through Ron Paul’s candidacy.

Thanks for being a part of the campaign!

Your confirmation number:
T296100-108483275

Project Code:
23MILLION

AdamT
12-29-2007, 08:47 PM
Holy crap! $23 mil in 6 weeks.....man. Is this even possible?

IChooseLiberty
12-29-2007, 08:48 PM
Thank you very much for your donation of $50.00 to the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign.

Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign.

We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of freedom, peace and prosperity through Ron Paul’s candidacy.

Thanks for being a part of the campaign!

Your confirmation number:
T296094-108483171

FreedomLover
12-29-2007, 08:48 PM
This is, um, ambitious to say the least.

Yep, but then again, when I first saw the 12 million goal in October I thought (No way, they're going to fall short by quite a bit"

And look now...it's almost 20 million!

I think this is a doable...but good showings in Iowa and New Hampshire (as well as Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina, and Florida) are paramount in making this a reality.

ThePieSwindler
12-29-2007, 08:48 PM
Well lets hit 20 million this quarter...

atthegates
12-29-2007, 08:49 PM
does anyone know if the campaign has started spending the money that has been raised this quarter?

ItsTime
12-29-2007, 08:49 PM
New Hampshire Primary Money Bomb!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=68263

WilliamC
12-29-2007, 08:49 PM
Please see the ***OFFICIAL*** 23 Million More thread. Use project code 23Million when donating.

And yes, I made this up, but anything to encourage eh? It's a heck of a goal.

szczebrzeszyn
12-29-2007, 08:50 PM
Holy crap! $23 mil in 6 weeks.....man. Is this even possible?
Only if thousands of new supporters join the revolution.

The Good Doctor
12-29-2007, 08:50 PM
23 million in a month? Damn! That is a tall order.


www.ronpaul2008.com

Lets do it.

PatriotOne
12-29-2007, 08:50 PM
Ron Paul asks for 23 Million More.

I was sure that was a typo. I thought it was going to say 23 mil total :eek:

skinzterpswizfan
12-29-2007, 08:50 PM
Is there a deadline for the matching funds?

I don't see how he's going to raise an additional 23 million dollars in the next couple weeks to bombard these states in any other way, although I would be thrilled to be proven wrong. :)

derekjohnson
12-29-2007, 08:51 PM
$23 mill is a huge number....the only way to attain that kind of number is to kick ass in Iowa. He will need the media support of upsetting the "front runners" to generate enough new contributers. If we can shock the world and win Iowa, I think $23 million next quarter would be pretty easy.

angrydragon
12-29-2007, 08:52 PM
I think it's possible.

WilliamC
12-29-2007, 08:52 PM
Please see the ***OFFICIAL*** 23 Million More thread and use the project code 23Million when you donate. Yes I just made it up but it's just to encourage folks. What an audacious goal!

bobmurph
12-29-2007, 08:52 PM
http://freeatlast2008.com/

I don't see this one taking off...why don't we just make it about Ron Paul instead of linking it to MLK or any other event. We'd be better off just picking the most logical day as opposed to some significant day in history. I don't think anyone will argue that the teaparty was hurt by the fact that it fell on a Sunday.

Eh, my 2 cents. I'm maxed anyway. We need to be creative...maybe a money bomb isn't the best idea. I'm actually disappointed the Ron Paul payday idea hasn't taken off. There are still 5 fridays before Feb 5th.

Finn
12-29-2007, 08:54 PM
Ok, this seems totally unrealistic.

I mean we can't even keep the blimp up in the air...

Dave Pedersen
12-29-2007, 08:55 PM
They are asking for 23 million dollars in four weeks?

ronpaul.in
12-29-2007, 08:56 PM
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/The_time_is_now_23_million_to_win

pacelli
12-29-2007, 08:56 PM
Campaign-induced moneybomb. Fire!

Thank you for your generous donation of $100.00!

Sey.Naci
12-29-2007, 08:57 PM
Sounds like we need a new money bomb in mid January.How 'bout starting with December 31st: www.donate2008.org (http://www.donate2008.org/)?

Troyhand
12-29-2007, 08:57 PM
6 weeks to get over 200,000 new donors. With an average donation of $100, every person who donated needs to find someone else to match that amount. That, with the number of new people coming in on their own will get us 23 million.
It's the Bring-in-your-Buddy Money Bomb!

bobmurph
12-29-2007, 08:57 PM
Everyone needs to get behind the Ron Paul payday. We don't have enough time or volume to generate a $20M money bomb. However, with 5 fridays remaining before Feb 5th, we can organize consective smaller bombs that will likely increase in size as time goes on. The payday idea would be more likely to generate $20M than one single money bomb. The payday needs some of the creative people on here to get behind the idea and generate interest on youtube.

aspiringconstitutionalist
12-29-2007, 08:57 PM
Screw $23 million, we'll give him 30.

Jerome
12-29-2007, 08:58 PM
I'm ready to out donate what I've done so far. We need a money bomb for sure because they need the money IMMEDIATELY.

Super Tuesday is Feb 5 which is only about 4 WEEKS!!!! We need about $6 MILLION PER WEEK!!!!!!!!

Aldanga
12-29-2007, 08:58 PM
HQ has no sense. They are asking for 23 million dollars in four weeks?

bah.. flaky and loony too.

Ron Paul is no leader. Honest? Yes. Leader? No.

If we can raise $500,000 in a day on a week's notice, I think we can raise $23 million in six weeks.

But it will probably have to be in less than six weeks, given that ad time has to be bought, etc.

ladyliberty
12-29-2007, 08:59 PM
Thank you for your generous donation of $50.00!

Contribution received!
Thank you very much for your donation to the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign.

Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign.

We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of freedom, peace and prosperity through Ron Paul’s candidacy.

You will receive an email shortly with a confirmation number.

tsetsefly
12-29-2007, 08:59 PM
I'm ready to out donate what I've done so far. We need a money bomb for sure because they need the money IMMEDIATELY.

Super Tuesday is Feb 5 which is only about 4 WEEKS!!!! We need about $6 MILLION PER WEEK!!!!!!!!

we have to money bomb already:

http://www.donate2008.org/

and freeatlast2008.com

tanstaafl
12-29-2007, 09:00 PM
$23 million more?

Or total?

Use or buy the grassroots ads!!!

Most further money should be spent at the grassroots level! You probably get 10X the impact per dollar that way.

I think the money had to go to the HQ up until Dec 16, just to get the attention of the press. But another $20 million won't impress the press all that much. On the other hand 10 million signs WOULD. I think we are into action time.

By the end the NEXT quarter's campaign contribution reporting, the primaries will be effectively OVER.

If we take #1 in a lot of states, we will be strong. If we don't then even $100 M in new contributions to HQ won't make any difference.

angrydragon
12-29-2007, 09:00 PM
What's the percentage of donors that maxed out? 20%?

evadmurd
12-29-2007, 09:00 PM
HQ better start kickin' some butt and get in gear doing some stuff on their own -- wait, maybe they have?

FreedomProsperityPeace
12-29-2007, 09:00 PM
Success is dependent upon doing well in Iowa and NH, and converting supporters of other candidates to our side. The support we have now won't be able to come up with $23 mil in 6 weeks.

Dave Pedersen
12-29-2007, 09:00 PM
If we can raise $500,000 in a day on a week's notice, I think we can raise $23 million in six weeks.

But it will probably have to be in less than six weeks, given that ad time has to be bought, etc.


We don't have six weeks. I doubt we have four. I will say no more.

lupester
12-29-2007, 09:01 PM
If Dr. Paul gets 1-3 in a couple states in early January, I can get double the amount and people that contributed on Dec 16th. Think about what has been happening. The media is writing him off.....so people see he won't get any headway. There is a lot riding on these 1st few states. It could solidify his campaign in peoples mind's who don't think someone like Dr. Paul will be able to win it. You change that perception next week and some serious money will come in! Think about it, Dr. Paul is really in the running and Peter Schiff sends out another email but with him winning REAL polls. Cha ching!

pacelli
12-29-2007, 09:01 PM
"The time is now. Please make your most generous donation today. "

They want a moneybomb now, they get a moneybomb now.

"Thank you very much for your donation of $100.00 to the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign"

WilliamC
12-29-2007, 09:01 PM
What, no takers :)

I see another thread has the jump on me. So be it.

ladyliberty
12-29-2007, 09:01 PM
Screw $23 million, we'll give him 30.


tHAT'S THE sPIRIT! :)

I donated all that I have left in my bank account - I only get paid once a month - that makes a total of $275 that I donated this month - I am going to try to beat that in January! I still have a ways to go yet before I am a member of the $2300 Club though!

Jeremy
12-29-2007, 09:02 PM
I think our biggest problem is going to be tea party people who think donating once was enough. And those people are probably not going to see this =o

The Good Doctor
12-29-2007, 09:03 PM
Well I hope they have some big news to back up this request. Like some major, major endorsements.

I don't know, that is setting the bar pretty high. I donated on both the money bombs and I am sure I can do another but we need a hell of a lot of new donors.


HQ better start kickin' some butt and get in gear doing some stuff on their own -- wait, maybe they have?

WilliamC
12-29-2007, 09:03 PM
Greetings All,

Far be it from me to buck the trend of the most popular thread :)

William Colley,

Thank you very much for your donation of $37.89 to the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign.

Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign.

We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of freedom, peace and prosperity through Ron Paulís candidacy.

Thanks for being a part of the campaign!

Your confirmation number:
T296100-108483275

Project Code:
23MILLION

pates03
12-29-2007, 09:05 PM
What, no takers :)

I see another thread has the jump on me. So be it.

Thank you for your generous donation of $50.00!

Contribution received!

Thank you very much for your donation to the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign.

Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign.

We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of freedom, peace and prosperity through Ron Paulís candidacy.

You will receive an email shortly with a confirmation number.

ladyliberty
12-29-2007, 09:06 PM
I think we can get the total up to $20 million by New Years!

ThomasJ
12-29-2007, 09:06 PM
Thank you very much for your donation of $25.00 to the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign.

Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign.

We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of freedom, peace and prosperity through Ron Paulís candidacy.

Thanks for being a part of the campaign!

Your confirmation number:
T296162-108483652

Project Code:
23MILLION

RonPaulVolunteer
12-29-2007, 09:06 PM
If the news media is going to leave us out, this i the only way we can do it. It's time to all be 2300 Club members. Hope IS on the way...

.

bobmurph
12-29-2007, 09:07 PM
What's the percentage of donors that maxed out? 20%?

We could only be so lucky. If 20% of donors were maxed that would be $46 Million.

I bet less than 5% are maxed.

***thought we had 100,000 unique donors. If its 200k, then it would be $92M if 20% were maxed.

Troyhand
12-29-2007, 09:07 PM
Over 200,000 have already donated. So we start a website with a goal date. Every donor needs to find a matching donor or redonate themselves to start a donor count on the website. When we have 200,000 donors signed up and cataloged within the site by a specific date, we'll have our 20 million and there'll be another 3 million within that time from new donations not associated with the site. Boom 23 million.

Be Ron Paul's Valentine!

voytechs
12-29-2007, 09:07 PM
Its gotta be money bombs. That is what motivates people to donate. Paychecks and so forth every week will never accomplish $23mil in 6weeks. Thats like $4mil/week. We need 2 major money bombs within next 6 weeks. If we can bring in $10mil on the first one and $13mil on the second one, we will get this accomplish.

Actually slightly less is needed per bomb since regular donations also add up to usually about $500k/week.


The issue with weekly donations, is that its too often and people don't get on board with that. We need planned significant days which is what gets people to donate.

I also agree that we should time it with a logical date instead of significant historic one. Thats kind of getting old and a little childish (but hey I could be wrong.)

ecliptic
12-29-2007, 09:08 PM
Screw $23 million, we'll give him 30.

YES! This is what will happen!

ronpaul.in
12-29-2007, 09:09 PM
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/The_time_is_now_23_million_to_win

worldtruthfreedom
12-29-2007, 09:10 PM
It is possible especially with the excitement and furter exposure generated when RP storms the Iowa caucus and NH primary.

TheWhiteRider
12-29-2007, 09:10 PM
wikipedia? yeah that looks professional...:rolleyes:

The Good Doctor
12-29-2007, 09:10 PM
Easily. 1.15 million. We could do that in 4 hours if needed.


I think we can get the total up to $20 million by New Years!

fedup100
12-29-2007, 09:10 PM
PLEASE READ YOUR QUESTION ALOUD!!!!!!

The better question is will he take matching funds and when can he do so.

While we have picked up new people, in a time of mounting financial difficulties for so many people, the campaign needs to be careful not to aim for stars we can't reach.

This will give the enemy much to talk about.

WilliamC
12-29-2007, 09:13 PM
Think of this not as a money bomb, but a sustained money barrage.

Aldanga
12-29-2007, 09:13 PM
We don't have six weeks. I doubt we have four. I will say no more.

We have just over 5. The week of the 30th, 6th, 13th, 20th and 27th.

bobmurph
12-29-2007, 09:16 PM
Its gotta be money bombs. That is what motivates people to donate. Paychecks and so forth every week will never accomplish $23mil in 6weeks. Thats like $4mil/week. We need 2 major money bombs within next 6 weeks. If we can bring in $10mil on the first one and $13mil on the second one, we will get this accomplish.

Actually slightly less is needed per bomb since regular donations also add up to usually about $500k/week.


The issue with weekly donations, is that its too often and people don't get on board with that. We need planned significant days which is what gets people to donate.

I also agree that we should time it with a logical date instead of significant historic one. Thats kind of getting old and a little childish (but hey I could be wrong.)

I prefer the payday becuase it would require less organiziation than 2 huge money bombs. Once the payday idea goes viral then we don't have to worry about advertising it. Plus it injects a flow of cash into the campaign instead of 2 huge donations.

Week 1: $2M
Week 2: $4M
Week 3: $6M
Week 4: $8M
Week 5: $10M

That's $30M and that's not even exponential growth.

If we do another money bomb I think it should be focused on encouraging people to max out. Another money bomb w/ $100 donations is not going to cut it. This is up to us...we could have raised $20M on Dec 16th...but, collectively, we weren't willing to step up the donations to boost him to that total. We control our own destiny.

walt
12-29-2007, 09:16 PM
http://freeatlast2008.com/

NOOOOO - just no

walt
12-29-2007, 09:17 PM
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/The_time_is_now_23_million_to_win

This is not digg news. Ron's quote in the Boston Globe was, this isn't learn the difference.

ecliptic
12-29-2007, 09:18 PM
How cool would it be to provide a way for any donor to get a screenshot of the counter showing "recent donor: ( your name here )"

Can the campaign make this a capability on the RonPaul2008.com website? Just a little fun way to say "thanks"!

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7779/picture43lh6.png (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/)

By the way ... Thanks Kevin!!!

:cool: It starts right now, people!!!! :cool:

Eponym_mi
12-29-2007, 09:21 PM
If RP needs $23M before Feb 5, the other campaigns must be toast....or maybe they've raised a lot that we don't know about yet?

Given the lack of transparency in respect to funds the other campaigns have, and the fact that we probably won't know how they did for Q4 until mid January, I think it is prudent for RP to set a big stretch target like this.

nc4rp
12-29-2007, 09:22 PM
i was just at the store getting smokes, and before i paid, i asked the cashier and the guy behind me if they heard of ron paul, if his message was getting out and they said HELL YEA. i didnt know these guys, but we talked a few minutes till other people came in the store, about the fact the news media is overlooking Paul because corporate sponsership is against Paul (other guy's words)

one guy said he cant see himself voting republican but after we all talked a bit he was very positive about the possibility. PROOF the message is getting out KEEP IT UP.

azam
12-29-2007, 09:22 PM
All the money in the world won't make Dr. P win. Sonner or later his campaign needs to begin to fight the good fight against the big media. Huckabee did not spend a penny when CNN promoted him during the debate and all of a sudden he was leading. That is 23 Million right there.

voytechs
12-29-2007, 09:26 PM
May be the campaign needs to organize this, with our support. They have the major email lists of donors (now in the hundreds of thousands). If they sent out an email about a campaign sponsored moneybomb, most of those people would sign up, or atleast donate on that specific date. All we'd need is two $12mil bombs which could be possible with their huge list.

We can do the promoting and advertising like we always do.

adwads
12-29-2007, 09:26 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=68292

Let's go balls out and do $23 million in one day instead of spreading it out over 4 weeks. Face it, the campaign needs the money now to buy air time for Feb 5th. After Feb 5th, its all over. The time for action is now!

I suggest a $23 million "money nuke" on January 7, the anniversary of the First American Presidential Election (which was on January 7, 1789). Raising the money by Jan. 7th will give them enough time to spend it all before Feb. 5.

The official website says that about 130,000 people have already donated this quarter. If each of those people only donates $175, that will equal $23 million dollars. That's right! Each person only needs to donate $175.

And also, I suggest that we make a separate subforum for topics related to raising $23 million dollars.

angrydragon
12-29-2007, 09:27 PM
It's possible, if only counting donors from this quarter (129,210 as of now) where 40% (just guessing) maxed out, that leaves 77,526 that haven't maxed out. Tripling our efforts with 300 dollars for the average donation instead of 100 dollars, we will raise $23,257,800.

So it's possible...

Edit: I think the average donation for this quarter so far is $146.10.

adwads
12-29-2007, 09:27 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=68292

Let's go balls out and do $23 million in one day instead of spreading it out over 4 weeks. Face it, the campaign needs the money now to buy air time for Feb 5th. After Feb 5th, its all over. The time for action is now!

I suggest a $23 million "money nuke" on January 7, the anniversary of the First American Presidential Election (which was on January 7, 1789). Raising the money by Jan. 7th will give them enough time to spend it all before Feb. 5.

The official website says that about 130,000 people have already donated this quarter. If each of those people only donates $175, that will equal $23 million dollars. That's right! Each person only needs to donate $175.

And also, I suggest that we make a separate subforum for topics related to raising $23 million dollars.

fj45lvr
12-29-2007, 09:30 PM
Well I guess if other Americans could sacrafice EVERYTHING to secure liberty that giving $2300 is not a whole lot to ask for!!! Besides if he wins you'll be saving yourself a HUGE financial crisis in the future.

PatriotOne
12-29-2007, 09:30 PM
I think we need to focus on the Jan 31st effort which has already got a good running start with 1136 pledges. http://www.donate2008.org/ We need our bloggers and meet up/myspace/facebook people contacted and our usual news sources to start promoting this date. Maybe a goal of 5 mil for that date, which I think is doable, if we focus. Then we move on to another plan perhaps 2 weeks later (perhaps this one can be moved up to the 14th of Jan: http://freeatlast2008.com/

adwads
12-29-2007, 09:31 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=748396#post748396

5 moneybombs on 5 birthdays in American history to earn the $23 million dollars before Feb 5th.

Jan 1 - PAUL REVERE's birthday.

Jan 12 - JOHN HANCOCK's birthday.

Jan 17 - BENJAMIN FRANKLIN's birthday.

Jan 21 - MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.'s birthday.

Jan 29 - THOMAS PAINE's birthday.

aspiringconstitutionalist
12-29-2007, 09:33 PM
Gawd that's a lot of money...I think Paul himself has to turn up the heat in Iowa and New Hampshire if he wants to raise that kind of money.

He has done just that with that killer new immigration ad.

Unfortunately many of the liberals on this forum don't know what they got into.

Lol, true @ the bit about the liberals, though I'm by no means a liberal, and that "terrorist" comment in the ad made me a little nervous even. However, I don't think liberals are going to desert the Revolution en masse because their view differs from Ron Paul's on "student visas" of all the tiniest issues. Besides, Ron does have some valid points about student visas--most of the 9/11 hijackers got into America on student visas, and a lot of people come here on student visas and then stay here illegally after they've expired, contributing to the immigration problem. As far as "terrorist nations," most of the Gulf regimes ARE actually terrorist supporting regimes, however I would have called them "terrorist regimes" or "terrorist-supporting governments" rather than "terrorist nations" as the ad did (kind of implies that the Nation of people are all "terrorists")

PatriotOne
12-29-2007, 09:33 PM
Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....................how about a one week event? 23m money bomb for one week? We can prepare for that in 2 weeks easily since we kind of got the routine down by now.

enjoiskaterguy
12-29-2007, 09:35 PM
We need to donate to this New Years Eve Money Bomb. Sign up to encourage others to sign up too.

New Years Eve Money Bomb (http://www.donate2008.org/)
It doesn't send you an e-mail every other day like the Nov. 5, or Dec. 16th websites did.

TaxProtester
12-29-2007, 09:35 PM
Thank you very much for your donation to the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign.
Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign.
We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of freedom, peace and prosperity through Ron Paulís candidacy.
You will receive an email shortly with a confirmation number.


You are very welcome, President Paul. :)

Knightskye
12-29-2007, 09:36 PM
$41 million by when? ($18 million plus 23...) They need it for February 5th, but when do they need the money by?

Oh, and you gotta love how Kent Snyder quoted Wikipedia. :rolleyes:

PatriotOne
12-29-2007, 09:36 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=748396#post748396

5 moneybombs on 5 birthdays in American history to earn the $23 million dollars before Feb 5th.

Jan 1 - PAUL REVERE's birthday.

Jan 12 - JOHN HANCOCK's birthday.

Jan 17 - BENJAMIN FRANKLIN's birthday.

Jan 21 - MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.'s birthday.

Jan 29 - THOMAS PAINE's birthday.

I think we can forget making it a special day and just call it the RP for the Win Money Bomb or something like that.

michaelwise
12-29-2007, 09:39 PM
The better question is will he take matching funds and when can he do so.

While we have picked up new people, in a time of mounting financial difficulties for so many people, the campaign needs to be careful not to aim for stars we can't reach.

This will give the enemy much to talk about.Sorry guys. We could have won this thing if we took the federal matching funds, but now it looks like we will be coming in second place. Well at least we still have our principles, and that is much better than winning and changing our country for the better. Sorry, but we tried.

mdevour
12-29-2007, 09:42 PM
A bunch of you just put a calculator to it and figured out $23 million's do-able any number of ways, just from the people who're already on the mailing list...

What this goal tells me is that the campaign's internal polling is saying more about the prospects for IA, NH and the other early states than they dare tell us.

:cool:

Have a Four-Million Dollar Friday, five times ... that's my suggestion!

[Edit:] I also like the idea a few posts back about a one week fund drive...

For Liberty!

Mike D.

adwads
12-29-2007, 09:43 PM
A bunch of you just put a calculator to it and figured out $23 million's do-able any number of ways, just from the people who're already on the mailing list...

What this goal tells me is that the campaign's internal polling is saying more about the prospects for IA, NH and the other early states than they dare tell us.

:cool:

Have a Four-Million Dollar Friday, five times ... that's my suggestion!

For Liberty!

Mike D.

This is better:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=748396#post748396

5 moneybombs on 5 birthdays in American history to earn the $23 million dollars before Feb 5th.

Jan 1 - PAUL REVERE's birthday.

Jan 12 - JOHN HANCOCK's birthday.

Jan 17 - BENJAMIN FRANKLIN's birthday.

Jan 21 - MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.'s birthday.

Jan 29 - THOMAS PAINE's birthday.

amistybleu
12-29-2007, 09:43 PM
23 million :eek: my wife is gonna kill me. :(

nc4rp
12-29-2007, 09:43 PM
Gotta love Ron's messages and the immediate impact they have on the money tracker :D

http://ronpaulgraphs.com/thumb_hourly_donors.png

WilliamC
12-29-2007, 09:44 PM
I'm conflicted about the matching funds. Yes it's a matter of principle, but the money is already spent in that if Ron Paul doesn't take it the money isn't going to be refunded to the taxpayers. I guess my main concern is that there are restrictions placed on how money is spent if Ron Paul takes these funds and I don't know what they are. Personally I won't stop supporting Ron Paul if he takes the funds.

Cinci4RP
12-29-2007, 09:45 PM
FWIW, the money bomb thing had been overplayed and is irrelevant now. It doesn't do anything as we saw with the shrug after 12-16.

Don't wait.

I bought groceries today and paid sprint and filled up the frontier, then put the last $49.22 of my checking account into RP2008.

Next payday $50 right off.

We can all help out the campaign by getting the hell of the computer and go tell people. It is amazing how many people just don't know that there could be an option this year other than "Giant douche vs. Terd sandwich"

D B Branyers
12-29-2007, 09:46 PM
Thank you very much for your donation of $50.00 to the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign.

Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign.

We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of freedom, peace and prosperity through Ron Paulís candidacy.

Thanks for being a part of the campaign!

Your confirmation number:
T296344-108484266

Project Code:
23MILLION

nc4rp
12-29-2007, 09:48 PM
Sorry guys. We could have won this thing if we took the federal matching funds, but now it looks like we will be coming in second place. Well at least we still have our principles, and that is much better than winning and changing our country for the better. Sorry, but we tried.


HEY HUCKLEROMNY GO PESTER MCAIN

ps report michaelwise pls.

WilliamC
12-29-2007, 09:52 PM
23 million :eek: my wife is gonna kill me. :(

Dude, I am so in your shoes. All my donations so far have been out of my budgeted cash flow, that's the only thing keeping me from being in deep trouble. As it stands I'm already suffering from A.S.S. with a complication of W.O.W. from my ~$520 contributed to the campaign and the ~$300 I've spent mailing letters to Iowa. Were I to actually dip into savings for another $1,780 I would be a victim of M.O.M. Politics is dangerous!

(Angry Spouse Syndrome)
(Wrath of Wife)
(Maxed Out Murder)

aspiringconstitutionalist
12-29-2007, 09:53 PM
Sorry guys. We could have won this thing if we took the federal matching funds, but now it looks like we will be coming in second place. Well at least we still have our principles, and that is much better than winning and changing our country for the better. Sorry, but we tried.

Psh. Matching funds would have only held us back. We'll blow the lid off any thing matching funds could have given us.

Pharoah
12-29-2007, 09:53 PM
Get door-knocking! 4 times as many supporters = 4 x 6 million.

bolidew
12-29-2007, 09:55 PM
It tells one thing for sure: campaign is in this to WIN!

Naraku
12-29-2007, 09:58 PM
This would be a great time for 10,000 of Peter Schiff's clients to take his advice and drop $2300.

berkeleybound
12-29-2007, 09:59 PM
It's not possible to get $23M. John Kerry only raised $7.7M in January 2004.

cero
12-29-2007, 09:59 PM
This would be a great time for 10,000 of Peter Schiff's clients to take his advice and drop $2300.

LOL really now did they not get the email? :D

michaelwise
12-29-2007, 10:00 PM
HEY HUCKLEROMNY GO PESTER MCAIN

ps report michaelwise pls.I'm all for doing this the right way if at all possible. With the economy the way it is, I think we only have one choice if we are going to make it. The F@uck You Frank Luntz Money Bomb.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=68314

WilliamC
12-29-2007, 10:02 PM
It's not possible to get $23M. John Kerry only raised $7.7M in January 2004.

In Q4 there have been 167,104 donors. If each of them were to donate an additional $138 that would be over 23 million. Easy? No. Impossible? No.

Post ya'lls donation confirmations with project code 23Million here folks!

sgrooms
12-29-2007, 10:02 PM
what is the maximum a business can donate to a candidate during the primaries? just curious, since i'm maxed out already, couldn't people form an llc, which takes about a week to go through...and then donate through the company?

crasster
12-29-2007, 10:03 PM
Not trying to be a hope killjoy, but 23 million MORE by Feb 5.....

WOW... That's a goal... I don't see that happening. No way. That would be OVER 500,000 per day. Don't know where that figure came from. I thought it said 12 million to win, and we gave (working on 19 million) this quarter.

Honestly, I'm looking for Iowa and NH. I think they should throw every dime of that 19 million into those states now.

Money Bombs... Shrugged off.
Debates won... Shrugged off.
Record funds for a single day.... Shrugged off.

An official vote - The media would not ignore a primary win in Iowa or NH. No way, no how, forget it.

I'll just keep a regular flow of cash to Ron for now. I'll throw out another $25 bucks (not rich) and they can take it from there. I'm HONESTLY ready for some results. For me I need to see results to be sure it's "worth spending more".

All the money in the world will not get him elected. Sure a cash campaign is nice, but you gotta get VOTES to win. Sure the money can go to convert and educate people about Ron Paul, but we'll be two states down soon.

For my part, throw some more dough into the campaign, but I want to see some results. If he really wins only 7% of the primary votes.... I hate to say it, but more money would be a waste.

A first, second, or third, go into over drive. Hope this didn't come off too negative.

jake
12-29-2007, 10:04 PM
wow.. the gaulent has really been thrown down.. the +$23 million figure is mind-boggling. but it will be reached - the future of the free world hangs in the balance after all.

"let it not be said that we did nothing"

amistybleu
12-29-2007, 10:05 PM
This would be a great time for 10,000 of Peter Schiff's clients to take his advice and drop $2300.

No doubt, I dont think many of them heeded Schiff's advice.

bucfish
12-29-2007, 10:06 PM
Yep take care of your own house first then whatever you can give to Paul remember OUR fore fathers gave their lives for this nation we can give something.

Menthol Patch
12-29-2007, 10:07 PM
We CAN do this and we MUST do this.

Many people have DIED for freedom.

All we have to do is keep on donating!

ecliptic
12-29-2007, 10:07 PM
Hope this didn't come off too negative.

it did...

We can and WILL exceed this goal. Believe it.

Menthol Patch
12-29-2007, 10:08 PM
In Q4 there have been 167,104 donors. If each of them were to donate an additional $138 that would be over 23 million. Easy? No. Impossible? No.

Post ya'lls donation confirmations with project code 23Million here folks!

23 million more is indeed possible!

We can reach this target!

bucfish
12-29-2007, 10:10 PM
On December 31st give what you can and if you cannot give anymore give to the Blimp. Let's make history again on short notice give 5, 10, 20, 50 or 100. or max out. Let's not give up as we got'em on the ropes let's go for the KO!!!

jimreport
12-29-2007, 10:12 PM
If we do well in Iowa I'm going to sell all my stock and donate it to the campaign.

Same here. But a different kind of stock. If he takes Iowa, I'll send my $1083.23 winnings from Intrade over to the campaign.

kushaze
12-29-2007, 10:15 PM
You have to admit, the campaign has some major balls for coming up with that goal. I am in.

Triton
12-29-2007, 10:18 PM
With 5 kids, you just KNOW I am going to get a killer tax return. I am going to throw some of that to the campaign.

Ninja Homer
12-29-2007, 10:19 PM
How about this:

January is progressional money bomb month. Every day, we try to top the previous day.

I think it would go up pretty quick, and there would be a new, higher goal every day to add incentive.

To all the naysayers: We have surpassed almost every goal that the campaign has set for us. With every new donation goal from the campaign, people like you have scoffed at it, saying it's impossible. At what point are you going to truly believe in this campaign, this revolution, this movement to take back our country? If you don't believe we can do this, how are you able to get other people to believe it? True belief and genuine excitement is probably about 75% of what's needed to convert somebody to a Ron Paul supporter.

When Ron Paul does well in Iowa and New Hampshire, millions of people are going to wake up to the fact that this movement is for real. $23 million will be a piece of cake.

WilliamC
12-29-2007, 10:19 PM
what is the maximum a business can donate to a candidate during the primaries? just curious, since i'm maxed out already, couldn't people form an llc, which takes about a week to go through...and then donate through the company?

My understanding is that only individuals can donate to a campaign. Companies funnel money by bundling donations from multiple donors. If your maxed out you're obviously doing something right in your life, so see if you can persuade others to follow your example and donate too.

pacelli
12-29-2007, 10:22 PM
Success is dependent upon doing well in Iowa and NH, and converting supporters of other candidates to our side. The support we have now won't be able to come up with $23 mil in 6 weeks.

True that, but, we can also invite some of the other ron paul discussion boards, send out meet-up alerts, all to do fundraising for Dr. Paul.

pacelli
12-29-2007, 10:25 PM
How about this:

January is progressional money bomb month. Every day, we try to top the previous day.

I think it would go up pretty quick, and there would be a new, higher goal every day to add incentive.

To all the naysayers: We have surpassed almost every goal that the campaign has set for us. With every new donation goal from the campaign, people like you have scoffed at it, saying it's impossible. At what point are you going to truly believe in this campaign, this revolution, this movement to take back our country? If you don't believe we can do this, how are you able to get other people to believe it? True belief and genuine excitement is probably about 75% of what's needed to convert somebody to a Ron Paul supporter.

When Ron Paul does well in Iowa and New Hampshire, millions of people are going to wake up to the fact that this movement is for real. $23 million will be a piece of cake.

I like the idea of a progressive money bomb month. But we need everyone on-board. And unfortunately because this is coming from the campaign, people are going to have to figure out / budget what they have leftover for the blimp, if anything. The timing of this from HQ isn't the best considering the blimp is desperately needing funds.

RlxdN10sity
12-29-2007, 10:26 PM
hmmmm....man that is a sh*t ton more money. Once we blew past "$12 Million to Win" I was maxin and relaxin. i thought "he needs $12 million to win, he is gonna surely have $20 million by the end of the quarter so we can almost win twice. Now, apparently it is not enough. Arrrghhh.... I know we can do it.

How many people do we have on this forum? 3k? 10k? 20k? I think depending on how many core members we have here, figure 10k for this example. We could start a subforum with a list. Each member could commit to recruiting 20 new donors to donate a $100.00 each, or maybe you have a well off friend you've been slowly converting and is now ready to stand up for his country and he donates $1000.00 and you find 10 other people to donate $100.00 each. Basically, if there are 10k of us that are serious, then each of us commit to recruiting $2000.00 worth of donations in 2 or 3 weeks.

I think this is extremely possible. We just need some numbers on serious forum members and get some commitment. As each member who has committed to donor recruitment has satisfied his/her committment we need to mark them off in the subforum. Instead of pledging to donate, we need to pledge to recruit donors. This needs to be more of an "Expand the Base Bomb" or just "Base Bomb".

The effect of this is two fold.
1 - it satisfies the newest HQ request for donations in the matter of time we have.
2 - we greatly expand the base of support for Ron Paul in the General and hopefully for some of the Feb. 5 primaries.

We can do it folks, I think something along these lines is what we need to work toward. I think for this amount of money we need to move away from single day events and have more of a start day and end day. I know we promoted the hell out of the Tea Party, which was successful by nearly any definition, but we still did not pull off a $10 Million day. We need more of a 2 or 3 week "Base Bomb" or whatever catchy title we can come up with.

If any of you think this idea has merit, please make your suggestions and lets iron out the details and get it up and running.

me3
12-29-2007, 10:27 PM
Forget the blimp. It hasn't flown half of the time it has been paid for.

The Lantern
12-29-2007, 10:28 PM
I'm conflicted about the matching funds. Yes it's a matter of principle, but the money is already spent in that if Ron Paul doesn't take it the money isn't going to be refunded to the taxpayers. I guess my main concern is that there are restrictions placed on how money is spent if Ron Paul takes these funds and I don't know what they are. Personally I won't stop supporting Ron Paul if he takes the funds.

Matching funds are doled out sometime in March. You have to take a loan to get access to them immediately. I am conflicted, too about the matching funds. On my income tax I always check off the box so the candidates can use my money. It is the only area I know of where I can direct some of my tax money. I would like Ron Paul to use it.

But the debate over matching funds has been around for a long time. It is ultimately Dr. Paul's decision and I will support him no matter what he decides.

I feel very proud to be a part of the Ron Paul Revolution. You all on this board immediately started talking about how we could raise 23 Million. The general attitude is positive. You guys and gals are the best!

For my 2 cents we should have an extended money bomb from the Iowa primary forward. Let the news between Iowa and New Hampshire be about all the money Ron Paul is raising for Super Tuesday. And instead of focusing on dates like November 5th or events like the Boston Tea Party, let's focus on our goal...President Ron Paul. Maybe we can call it something more positive than a bomb. Something like the President Ron Paul Money -------? Maybe somebody can help me out here.

Thanks.

ecliptic
12-29-2007, 10:29 PM
The timing of this is a stroke of genius. We have already seen an uptick in donations which will make 20 million a possibility this quarter. The amazing response to the FOX exclusion showed "pent-up energy" within the grassroots. While I'm clearly a huge supporter of Boycott Ye Olde Media ... the energy is well-spent on achieving this fundraising goal in just six weeks or less. The most important six weeks of our lives starts ....

NOW (https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/)

Suzu
12-29-2007, 10:30 PM
If we do well in Iowa I'm going to sell all my stock and donate it to the campaign.

May as well, since it will be worthless anyway!

GO RON!!!

Sey.Naci
12-29-2007, 10:30 PM
Ron Paul's Payday still seems the best idea to me. It coincides with the payday of many people, the campaign can depend on receiving a lump sum every week, and it lays less stress on their servers, not to mention HQ's staff.

See Derdy's OP in this thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=67662&highlight=derdy), posted a few hours ago re moneybombs from the POV of the people at HQ.
.

sgrooms
12-29-2007, 10:30 PM
My understanding is that only individuals can donate to a campaign. Companies funnel money by bundling donations from multiple donors. If your maxed out you're obviously doing something right in your life, so see if you can persuade others to follow your example and donate too.

ya i just found it here:
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/citizens.shtml

brianbb98
12-29-2007, 10:51 PM
I love you guys... seriously..


As I see this I'm tempted to use a credit card to join the $2300 club... its just a lot of money and I've never spent that much at once..

Suzu
12-29-2007, 10:51 PM
$23M = 10k donors giving the max. Very doable!

Carole
12-29-2007, 10:52 PM
I was under the impression matching funds were for the general electon and were tied to the number of donars as well.

????

Nihilist23
12-30-2007, 04:07 AM
If he proves himself with a good placing in Iowa and a win in New Hampshire and at least one other state, I will be convinced I should donate more. I think it is my right to see that the campaign is making good use of the money we have given them so far.

I am going to step up my grassroots activities in the meantime.

austin356
12-30-2007, 04:30 AM
All the money in the world won't make Dr. P win. Sonner or later his campaign needs to begin to fight the good fight against the big media. Huckabee did not spend a penny when CNN promoted him during the debate and all of a sudden he was leading. That is 23 Million right there.


stop spreading these rumors about Huckabee raising cause of media promotion...... (I say this inspite of the fact that I told my entire family in May that he would be the one they would promote and turn too when their duds began to fail.)

Google news trends indicate Huckabee press growth has coincided with growth in poll numbers..... not the other way around. Before his big rise he was receiving not too terribly much more press than Ron.


Lets face fact. As reported by the Washington Post, a Huckabee supporter in Montgomery Alabama has an email list of 70,000,000+ people, with a large number of those being evangelical Christians. We dont have such a list.

dave_mack33
12-30-2007, 06:41 AM
i just donated more than i should have. but god help us if anyone but the good doctor wins! :rolleyes:

Thomas Paine
12-30-2007, 09:00 AM
I've been away for a few days and didn't have time to read more than the first few pages of this thread. My apologies if I restate what others have said in previous posts.

Yes, $23 Million dollars in four weeks is a tall order. Yes, a lot of people probably tapped themselves out heading into the holidays. Yes, the good doctor could probably get some money via matching funds.

However...

The grassroots raised the bulk of the $19 Million for the 4th Quarter in November and December (an eight week period) before the grass roots donor base reached its present size (and which will only continue to grow). I remember some folks thought raising $12 Million in the 4th Quarter was overly ambitious and we blew past that goal by nearly 50%. There's an old saying that if you reach for the stars you may not always grab a star but you certainly won't end up with a handful of mud. So let's settle on a couple of money bombs in January and just do it!

Also, now that the holiday season is past us, there will be fewer family obligations (buying presents) to compete for our dollars being donated to Ron Paul. All of us truly believe that Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate who can save this country from going down the disastrous path that it is currently embarked on. If anyone has doubts about the peril confronting this country, you only have to read the article below:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/80fa0a2c-49ef-11dc-9ffe-0000779fd2ac.html

If we fail in raising the $23 Million for Ron Paul, then we will have failed in saving this country and future generations from the doom that awaits it if Ron Paul is not elected President.

Finally, I and many others are drawn to Ron Paul because he doesn't take government handouts. Unlike other presidential candidates, Ron Paul not only talks about refusing government handouts but he actually practices what he preaches. So if Ron Paul has decided to not take matching funds, then I am going to respect that decision.

A cause worth living for is a cause worth dying for. Well, I'm not going to die if I have to forego going out for dinners or drinks for a couple of months so I can donate $200 (maybe $500 if I put up with my wife's protests for a couple weeks) to Ron Paul in January 2008. In fact, my birthday is in January 2008 and I think I am going to tell my generous in-laws (and other family members) to simply donate to the Ron Paul campaign instead of buying me a couple hundred dollars worth of birthday presents/dinners.

We all signed onto this campaign because we believe in the candidate and his message. Ron Paul has pledged to be serve this country at an hour of its greatest need for him to be President. The least we can do is reciprocate and raise the $23 Million in January 2008 for Ron Paul at an hour of his greatest need.

WilliamC
12-31-2007, 06:53 AM
Show us your donations and confirmations here. If you so choose, please use project code 23Million