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Bradley in DC
07-12-2007, 07:47 AM
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/channel-08/2007/07/giuliani_firefighters_and_yout.html

(Lots of links in the original)

Giuliani, Firefighters, And YouTube


We've been concentrating on who will be smart enough to benefit most from the internet and YouTube in this presidential election. But we should also ask who will be hurt most. And that could be Rudy Giuliani -- but only because he's not trying to use the internet smartly.

On Wednesday, Channel '08 covered the effort by some New York firefighters to take out their longstanding grudge against Giuliani -- while The Fix focused on Giuliani's prebuttal against them.

As a New Yorker and a survivor of the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center, I have sadly seen too much of this sort of angry revenge, blaming the rage and hurt of 9/11 on one scapegoat or another. These firefighters pin all the blame on Giuliani for (1) their bad radios and (2) their dissatisfaction over the recovery of remains. That's all this video is about. Not unlike the Swiftboat commercials, it focuses on one strong grievance. It tries to use this as evidence of a fatal flaw in the candidate's character. But, really, this is more of an opportunity to vent than it is a campaign statement. This video has even less to do with the presidential election than the Swift Boaters' did. It's about the ongoing war between Giuliani and some of the firefighters.

And though, as The Fix reported, Giuliani countered the firefighters' video before it was released on YouTube and on an anti-Giuliani attack site, I say that he is not using the internet wisely.

Even before this video, if you went to YouTube and searched for the latest videos on Giuliani you'd find no end of Ron Paul videos (because he's everywhere) and then no end of videos from 9/11 conspiracy theorists and deniers and Giuliani haters. Fringe though they may be, these people own "Giuliani" on YouTube. Giuliani doesn't.

If he wanted to use YouTube wisely, Giuliani should be flooding the zone with his own videos and his own messages, his own stories of 9/11, and his own campaign messages that move past that. But, instead, his YouTube page is peppered with occasional snippets of speeches and local news reports, none very compelling. He lets himself be outnumbered online.

This is the same candidate who stillhas aprivate MySpace page! He has no Facebook page. His web site doesn't even have a blog.

Giuliani may not be scared of terrorists but it sure seems he's scared of the internet.

Whether anyone pays attention to the firefighters' attack on Giuliani will depend on whether the video is picked up in media coverage and whether it strikes any chord that makes it go viral. This one video will not do him in; the tone of the video is so strident and so focused on this specific grudge that it may have no impact on the campaign at all.

But still, Giuliani may be the candidate who is doing the worst job using the internet and specifically YouTube video. He has conceded online -- the digital primary state -- to his enemies.

DjLoTi
07-12-2007, 07:52 AM
The internet is the most powerful information and communication tool in the history of mankind.

That being said, it's clear that the only active campaigning in the viral world is AGAINST Giuliani, and quite detrimental at that.

It's going to be difficult to hold up the 9/11 hero image unless the American people really do not, what so ever, do their own research and use the (most powerful information and communication tool in the history of man kind) to their benefit.

TheEvilDetector
07-12-2007, 08:38 AM
The evil utterly selfish and corrupt authoritarian hitler reincarnate had no choice but to concede the digital domain.

The truth is simply too widespread for him to overcome on the last remaining free speech zone available to the masses.

He is corrupt and authoritarian in the fullest sense of those words. Check out youtube videos by TouchingYou.

Do not let this "freedom is about authority" perverted goon spout any bs without a sharp factual rebuttal on youtube or any other site.

Here is a gem from this tyrant wannabe:

"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E2D9173CF933A15750C0A9629582 60
March 1994

rockfree33
07-12-2007, 08:48 AM
They are trying to peg Ron Paul as a conspiracy theorist. Too bad people will just search YouTube for themselves and get hooked on the freedom message! lol

Man from La Mancha
07-12-2007, 08:49 AM
The internet is the most powerful information and communication tool in the history of mankind.

That being said, it's clear that the only active campaigning in the viral world is AGAINST Giuliani, and quite detrimental at that.

It's going to be difficult to hold up the 9/11 hero image unless the American people really do not, what so ever, do their own research and use the (most powerful information and communication tool in the history of man kind) to their benefit.


But limited to the intelligent and those with time to spend using it. Unfortunately many people are just to consumed with supporting their families and such, they don't have the time to look.

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