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Man from La Mancha
07-12-2007, 06:45 AM
This man has a lot of experience in running radio ads to reach 10 millions of people. He has been at for over 10 years and it is excellent advice. A long read but well worth it.

It's 1776 again - but this time - YOU ARE THERE! Everyone into the
battle!

Jim Condit Jr.,
Director, Network America Ewire List
Director, Citizens for a Fair Vote Count
Mailing Address: PO Box 11339, Cincinnati, Ohio 45211



July 11, 2007 NA (Network America) e-wire

Why Ron Paul Campaign must advertise on Big Talk Radio Now!

THE REALITY: RON PAUL IS KNOWN BY THE ACTIVISTS - BUT NOT BY THE 80% WHO
ARE CASUALLY WATCHING THE NEWS
When I traveled to Des Moines, Iowa a few weeks ago to attend Dr. Paul's
rally, I asked everybody I could on the road -- going and coming -- if
they were following the Presidential Campaign. I asked the people I
rented a car from in Cincinnati, I asked the attendants at gas stations
and quick shops along the way (if I could work it into the
conversation), and I asked waiters and waitresses in restaurants in Des
Moines.

Not one - NOT ONE of the "average Americans" I asked during the trip -
NOT ONE - had heard of Ron Paul. Had they heard of Hillary? Yes. Obama?
Yes. McCain? Yes. Romney? Yes.

THE BIG MEDIA MOGULS KNOW THAT MOST AMERICANS ARE CASUAL NEWS WATCHERS

The reason for this is obvious: these "average Americans" are only
casually watching the news and the Presidential race. They get all they
know from the TV News of the 5 Big TV Networks, the big radio stations,
talk radio and otherwise, and the front page of their local newspaper.

The New World Order Ruling Elite, which controls the 5 Big TV Networks,
and the Big Talk Radio hosts, know that between 5% and 20% of us are on
to them in one way or another. They know there is always a percentage of
the people who see what they are doing. (This is why the Communists,
when they get gun control in a country, always round up and kill the
leaders and the patriotic intelligentsia.) The Big Media's anti-American
GOAL is to keep the other 80%+ of casual news watchers - the 80%+ who
are not political activists - asleep until they consolidate their power.

Today, the New World Order Media Moguls use the little box in all our
homes (called the television) and the little box in all our cars (radio)
to misinform and keep ignorant the 80%+ of casual news watchers.

WHY GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS ON ABC'S "THIS WEEK" LAST SUNDAY TOLD RON PAUL
THAT HE "COULDN'T WIN"

Many of you have seen the clip from last week's ABC "THIS WEEK" where
the N W O well-paid Twerp George Stephanopoulos told Ron Paul that he
couldn't win. THIS IS PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE. This is the same thing they
did to Pat Buchanan in the 1996 and the 2000 campaign.

I wish I had a nickel from every normal American I met from 1992 to 2000
who said, "I love Pat Buchanan and agree with almost everything he says
- but he can't win." These duped Americans were parroting what their
would-be enslavers were telling them over their TV, in between
over-entertaining them with Paris Hilton and the Anna Nicole Smith
tragedy!

This is what the press is about to try and do to Ron Paul, as he becomes
better known. (As I said last e-wire, I've seen this movie before, in
1996 and 2000.)

The answer to the "Ron Paul can't win" taunt -- is this: "He CAN win if
we get an honest vote count and the TV Networks quit censoring him."

The same type of psychological warfare is used when we ask for an open
vote count. All the establishment type crooks say: "You know that we're
not going to get rid of the computers." - I, for one, "know" no such
thing. I DO know that our country is going down the tubes and into
slavery - OR -- another Revolutionary civil war situation if we FAIL to
get rid of the computers and FAIL to institute a paper ballot system,
hand counted by the neighborhood citizens immediately upon closing. We
WANT the peaceful, constitutional answer - but the New World Order
Ruling elite is fast taking away our options.

BIG MEDIA PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE TO SAVE THEIR HOLOGRAM "FRONT RUNNER" -
RUDY GIULIANI

One more thing on the psychological warfare being played on America by
the big media right now regarding the Presidential campaign: Rudy
Ghouliani pulled out of the upcoming Iowa Straw Poll on August 11th in
Ames. WHY? Obviously, because the Ghoul-man does not have any support on
the ground in Iowa. Furthermore, he would be booed wildly at the Straw
poll, unless he hid most of his key positions. The "support" and "front
runner" status for Ghouliani is a Hologram created by the media and the
New World Order Billionaire network that funds his campaign. Between
deceptive polls, Big Media promotion, and computer votefraud on election
day - the Big Media can make it LOOK like Ghouliani has support - but
they can NOT pull this off at an event like the Iowa Straw poll - where
real people come - and see with their own eyes the other real people
that will show up, cheer, and vote.

So what are the crooks in the Big Media saying about Ghouliani's pull
out of the Iowa Straw poll? Are they saying Ghouliani has no support in
Iowa, so this looks bad for his campaign? NO! The crooks are saying that
since Ghoul-man pulled out, that now the Iowa Straw Poll doesn't mean as
much!

The Big Media people seem to have lying woven into their very genes ---
they have think tanks sitting around all day taking real polls they
never publish, and then devising Communist propaganda to try and keep
the American people confused and deceived. WE WILL NOT FALL FOR IT
ANYMORE! NOT IN THE AGE OF THE INTERNET!

* * * * * * *

WHAT THE RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT CAMPAIGN MUST DO RIGHT NOW!!!! . . .
ADVERTISE ON HANNITY AND RUSH THROUGH LOCAL RADIO STATIONS IN EVERY
MAJOR CITY IN THE USA!

We are at war - presently an info war in the USA. Is there anything the
Ron Paul Presidential Campaign can do to reach the tens of millions of
people who haven't heard of Ron Paul - thanks to the Big Media almost
universal failure to mention Ron Paul whenever they talk about the
Presidential race?

Yes. I am about to show you why we SHOULD NOT feel overwhelmed by this
relative HANDFUL of crooks in New York City and Washington DC. Don't
feel overwhelmed or intimidated! Feel righteously angry - like our
Founding Fathers did. It's 1776 all over again - and this time YOU ARE
THERE!

We must seriously size up the situation, and then ACT! And here is what
the Ron Paul Campaign, and only the Ron Paul Campaign can and must do
right now to break the Big Media censorship:

Place radio ads on Hannity, Rush, Savage, Ingraham, Medved, Boortz, and
the popular local talk shows - telling the American people that all of
these radio shows, and the 5 Big TV Networks - are not giving equal
coverage to Ron Paul - the ONLY champion of the Constitution who is in
the race!

We have used this strategy for years in the Midwest - as far back as the
1980s in two cases. The campaign buys the radio ads through the LOCAL
STATIONS in all the major cities. How much would this cost?

It was reported last week that the Ron Paul Campaign has about
$2,800,000 cash on hand. $300,000 of that should be spent immediately on
this "censorship busting" radio ad campaign in the major cities in
across the USA. It will take an average of $4000 to $10,000 in each of
the 60 major media markets in the USA to get this message -- in
saturation form -- to over 100 million people. Now -

At the end of EVERY radio ad the listener is told to go to
RonPaul2008.com and make a donation to help BREAK THE CENSORSHIP and
bring back freedom of the press in this Presidential Campaign. The Ron
Paul campaign will then make back WAY OVER $300,000 - they might make
back $20 million in campaign contributions!

You see, the Reasonable Access Law forces the FCC licensed radio
stations to run the ad of any federal candidate - without altering the
ad or censoring it in any way. Do you see how powerful this is?

Radio ads for Ron Paul would be running on Hannity, Rush, etc. - during
the same week in the major cities across the USA - telling all the
people in the USA how Hannity and Rush were not giving Ron Paul coverage
- and how they are hiding the fact that Ron Paul is the ONLY champion of
the Constitution in the Presidential race.

People, once they visit the website, and hear Dr. Paul on the radio ad -
will be able to make up their own minds.

HERE'S A POSSIBLE RADIO AD

One radio ad should be used, and repeated over and over and over again
for one week on the biggest local Talk Radio Stations in all the major
cities across the USA. We would need designated Paul supporters in each
area getting the times that the Ron Paul ads were going to run the day
before (this is standard procedure if you ask for it) - and make sure
that the ads ran!

In Cincinnati, when we have used this strategy in local congressional
races - it is necessary to, if possible, tape the shows, so we have
proof if the radio stations run the ads we paid for or not, --- but at
least it is necessary to have people listening to verify that the Ron
Paul radio ads actually run. (I have an article that several BILLION
dollars a year in paid for radio ads by BUSINESSES are not run by radio
stations due to double-scheduling, laziness, honest error, etc.

Here is a possible radio ad - the type that would wake the great body of
Americans out of their trance as they were driving to and from work.

Announcer with deep voice: Something very disturbing is happening in the
USA regarding the Presidential Campaign of 2008. The 5 Big TV Networks
are giving massive coverage to "business as usual" politicians like
Romney and Giuliani - but are hiding the fact that Congressman Ron Paul
is the only Champion of the Constitution in the race.

Congressman Paul: My public service spans 30 years; I have never voted
for a tax increase. I voted against the Iraq War. I want to bring our
troops home to defend our own US borders. I have introduced legislation
to abolish the IRS. I have always voted for the 2nd Amendment and our
right to own guns, and for freedom on the internet. Americans want big
government to leave them alone. Our campaign is gaining strength because
people have underestimated how many Americans are interested in a
Freedom Message.

Announcer with deep voice: Help break the censorship and restore true
Freedom to American. Go to RonPaul2008.com - and help us carry the torch
of Freedom. That's RonPaul2008.com -

This would leave 10 seconds to finish with the official campaign song:
"He's Hope for America, Hope for America." It is important to add
emotion, based on the sound LOGIC and REASONS for supporting Ron Paul
for President.

This radio ad, or one like it - would run in every major city during the
same week. It should be repeated over and over again on Rush, Hannity,
and whatever the big local talk shows are in each area. In Cincinnati
the important local talk shows would be Mike McConnell (morning) - and -
Bill Cunningham (early afternoon) - on WLW.

That way - in one week - we would reach hundreds of millions of people
at least once - and the faithful listeners of Hannity, Rush, and the
local talk shows - repeatedly. Hannity and Rush claim to have between 10
million and 20 million listeners in any three hour period. There is a
turnover of (the vast majority of) listeners every fifteen minutes in
talk radio.

Something must be done NOW to make Ron Paul a household word. If not,
the Big Media will continue to never talk about him when they mention
their manufactured "front runners". They will continue to say that
"Everyone knows Ron Paul doesn't have a chance." -- And, using Media
suppression now, and computer votefraud on election day, Ron Paul will
go the way of Pat Buchanan in 1996 and 2000, or the Constitution Party,
or the Libertarian Party in every Presidential year so far.

We know that Ron Paul's freedom message and "bedside manner" appeals to
people across the board. We also know that, with the war in Iraq and the
constant hyping of the "war on terror" - Americans are more likely to
gravitate to a candidate like Ron Paul now, than they were to gravitate
to a good but Media-suppressed candidate in 1996 or 2000.

And, boy, are millions of conservatives going to be mad when they find
out what Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have been hiding from them!

I don't need more things to do, but I know what must be done to run this
type of radio campaign that gets everyone's attention in a city. I would
gladly work for free with someone at the Ron Paul campaign to make sure
this happens right, or tell someone on staff everything I know so that
they don't have to "re-discover the wheel" on how to make this
effective.

It's 1776 again - but this time - YOU ARE THERE! Everyone into the
battle!

End of this Network America e-wire.


Jim Condit Jr.,
Director, Network America Ewire List
Director, Citizens for a Fair Vote Count
Mailing Address: PO Box 11339, Cincinnati, Ohio 45211


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risiusj
07-12-2007, 06:50 AM
That's a big read. I have to head out pretty quick and don't have time to read all of it, but what I did read I completely agreed with.
The power-Elites don't want people to know about Ron Paul. We need to get his name out there right now before it's too late.

LibertyEagle
07-12-2007, 06:56 AM
I'm down for this. From what Mr. Condit said, this sounds like an excellent thing to do.

dspectre
07-12-2007, 06:57 AM
I skimmed through it. It looked like a good plan, I actually find it interesting. How can we help??

nerfball
07-12-2007, 07:01 AM
well, I'm not on Dr Paul's campaign team so I really can't comment on what he's doing, or not doing, to self promote. clearly, there is a bias and I'm sure the media conglomerates have several motives for who they choose to promote.

I intend to throw Ron's name around as much as I can and he will have my vote in the end.

LibertyEagle
07-12-2007, 07:01 AM
Donate as much as you possibly can to the campaign. Right now.

dspectre
07-12-2007, 07:04 AM
I guess what I'm asking is, are this guy and the campaign talking? Maybe I need to read the article closer, but are there things that people like us can do to make this happen?

I've donated as much as I can right now(to the RP campaign), when things clear up personally, I will donate more...

dspectre
07-12-2007, 07:10 AM
I guess my point is, can this guy and the campaign talk to each other?

kern802
07-12-2007, 07:13 AM
Yeah, the campaign needs to get in touch with him to incorporate some of his strategies. The main conflict that I see with his approach is that the RP campaign does not want to appear to be a "protest" or "anti-conspiracy" campaign, but rather a normal and positive campaign. But, who can argue with running radio ads as proposed?

DjLoTi
07-12-2007, 07:14 AM
I read the entire article. This is an absolute must that the campaign read and heed. We should all read and learn. This is important. Seriously ... :)

The campaign can make up their own commercial, but the proliferation process needs to get started immediately.

LibertyEagle
07-12-2007, 07:15 AM
I guess my point is, can this guy and the campaign talk to each other?

I talked to Andrew at RP HQ about it just a few minutes ago and he gave me his email to send the message to. I did that. He said he would look it over and get it to the right person. So, I guess we'll see what they think about it.

dspectre
07-12-2007, 07:17 AM
I think as long as the ads are reasonable, it is probably the cheapest and most cost effective way of running political ads.

The audience who listens to them are going to be the most politically active, and the ads are way cheaper then TV spots.

So yes, this is a great idea and the campaign should do it!! Or somebody needs to do it.

sunny
07-12-2007, 07:19 AM
i just emailed him condit at the e at the bottom of the post asking him if he has already contacted HQ.........

one minute later - good grief libertyeagle, you beat me to it!
maybe you oughtta change your name to "quick draw"! lol!

LibertyEagle
07-12-2007, 07:28 AM
I really liked what Mr. Condit glossed over as far as the radio spot was concerned. It needs to be fleshed out but it's a good start. He hit a lot of very good points that should appeal to the target audience. That's one thing Ron is not particularly good at... the sound bytes, and we badly need them to get people interested enough to take the time to investigate further. If we get them interested, the money will flow in.


Announcer with deep voice: Something very disturbing is happening in the
USA regarding the Presidential Campaign of 2008. The 5 Big TV Networks
are giving massive coverage to "business as usual" politicians like
Romney and Giuliani - but are hiding the fact that Congressman Ron Paul
is the only Champion of the Constitution in the race.

Congressman Paul: My public service spans 30 years; I have never voted
for a tax increase. I voted against the Iraq War. I want to bring our
troops home to defend our own US borders. I have introduced legislation
to abolish the IRS. I have always voted for the 2nd Amendment and our
right to own guns, and for freedom on the internet. Americans want big
government to leave them alone. Our campaign is gaining strength because
people have underestimated how many Americans are interested in a
Freedom Message.

Announcer with deep voice: Help break the censorship and restore true
Freedom to American. Go to RonPaul2008.com - and help us carry the torch
of Freedom. That's RonPaul2008.com -

This would leave 10 seconds to finish with the official campaign song:
"He's Hope for America, Hope for America." It is important to add
emotion, based on the sound LOGIC and REASONS for supporting Ron Paul
for President.


I'm really glad you contacted, Condit, Sunny.

beermotor
07-12-2007, 07:30 AM
I think the ad sounds like a pretty good one. The campaign may wish to highlight different points of the platform in different demographic areas, but this is a great idea I think. My only question is, how much is it gonna cost?

Man from La Mancha
07-12-2007, 07:45 AM
AS the letter pointed out $300,000 and it raise more than would be spent on it if they ask for donations or people go to Pauls website and donate. If you reach 10's million's, enough should donate and make million's.

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paulitics
07-12-2007, 08:16 AM
I think this is a good idea. He should clarify his strategy on terrorism. Protect our borders, pull ot of Iraq, continue to hunt for Al Quada and Bin laden in country's that harbor him, like Pakistan.

This is something the current administration and their army of cfr candidates refuses to do. He needs express how much less safer we are today than in 2001. He could win on this message. People want to know they are safe and that something will be done about it, and unfortunately because of disinformation the noninterventionist policy sounds weak to most people. This is an urgent message and could win over millions if it was just known the truth. People suspect they are unsafe, but don't know why.

Man from La Mancha
07-12-2007, 08:20 AM
You see, the Reasonable Access Law forces the FCC licensed radio
stations to run the ad of any federal candidate - without altering the
ad or censoring it in any way. Do you see how powerful this is?


Yes. I am about to show you why we SHOULD NOT feel overwhelmed by this
relative HANDFUL of crooks in New York City and Washington DC. Don't
feel overwhelmed or intimidated! Feel righteously angry - like our
Founding Fathers did. It's 1776 all over again - and this time YOU ARE
THERE!

We must seriously size up the situation, and then ACT! And here is what
the Ron Paul Campaign, and only the Ron Paul Campaign can and must do
right now to break the Big Media censorship:

Place radio ads on Hannity, Rush, Savage, Ingraham, Medved, Boortz, and
the popular local talk shows - telling the American people that all of
these radio shows, and the 5 Big TV Networks - are not giving equal
coverage to Ron Paul - the ONLY champion of the Constitution who is in
the race!

They can't refuse our ads.

Bruehound
07-12-2007, 08:32 AM
My prefered radio spot would be a rotation of Walter Williams and Judge Andy speaking warmly of Dr. Ron and run on Hannity and Limbaugh.

Dave
07-12-2007, 08:41 AM
I just heard a commercial for Tommy Thompson. I can't wait for the day I hear a Ron Paul commercial come through my radio.

Highmesa
07-12-2007, 09:23 AM
I'm going to disagree a bit. Not on the message, but on the execution.

It's still extremely early in the campaign. I would continue to ride the word of mouth and internet coverage that is driving people to the campaign for a few more months. IMO, the worst thing the campaign could do is make a big push now, get superficial name recognition, and then have people forget about Dr. Paul by the time the primaries roll around. Being involved day-to-day with this revolution, I think we all (myself included) get a little hyper about wanting it all and wanting it now.

I would continue to collect as much in donations as possible and use the media we are getting and blogs to spread the word until autumn. Then, based on what is in the coffers develop a targeted media strategy to be executed over the winter.

There are still 3 debates left, where Dr. Paul will get press - maybe even another Guiliani type confrontation. The field still needs to narrow down, which will likely happen over the next few months. When we get down to 5-6 candidates, then the ads will be more effective and will garner more support.

Man from La Mancha
07-12-2007, 09:58 AM
Please tell me are you capable of forgetting Ron and his Freedom message?? I don't think one person in this country could forget once they hear him. Time is short we need 10's of million of people now to change the voting system in the whole USA. Ron is just the side issue, taken back our country is # 1. The more people see Paul the more they wake up and want their freedom back. $100 million and 20 million supporters now!!!

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Man from La Mancha
07-12-2007, 01:45 PM
bump

Slugg
07-12-2007, 02:26 PM
Please tell me are you capable of forgetting Ron and his Freedom message?? I don't think one person in this country could forget once they hear him. Time is short we need 10's of million of people now to change the voting system in the whole USA. Ron is just the side issue, taken back our country is # 1. The more people see Paul the more they wake up and want their freedom back. $100 million and 20 million supporters now!!!

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I understand the urgency....but timing is everything. I think Autumn is too late, but the week OF the next debate would be perfect. Dr. Paul ALWAYS gets a bump from debates, this one could make it exponential. But, as I've said before, I'm not a political science guy, so I am not sure when and how commercials should be released....I tend to trust those with experience....


my two cents

Lord Xar
07-12-2007, 02:37 PM
I read it, and it makes sense... the average person does NOT know about ron paul, and what they do know is a man of principle who can't win. So, how can he win.. by reaching out and tapping THAT RESOURCE.

THEY ARE A RESOURCE, tap them... perhaps the campaign does have a plan... but perhaps someone should send this read to them.

I ALSO LOVE the AD THAT WAS PRESENTED --- as a side note. I heard a ad from a local guy who wants to run for major.. now IF HE CAN get on with an ad, why doesn't Ron Paul...
remember, even though this is in the beginning stages.... the more people who know about him now and HAVE NOT ALREADY DONATED OR COMMITED IN THEIR BRAINS FOR ANOTHER candidate,
the better.

Think on this... if you have a person who LOVES ghouliani because that is all he knows... then trying to knock sense into him 6 months from now after he has already given his money and talked to other people about him - it will be VERY hard to change his perception to follow Ron Paul, in turn to donate and then further in turn to talk about him... you see????

jpa
07-12-2007, 02:49 PM
whoa whoa... check out http://www.realnews247.com/

It comes off as nut case conspiracy theory barely readable site.

I am all for getting Ron Paul on talk radio, but be careful before giving this guy money or associating him with the campaign.

Man from La Mancha
07-12-2007, 09:04 PM
whoa whoa... check out http://www.realnews247.com/

It comes off as nut case conspiracy theory barely readable site.

I am all for getting Ron Paul on talk radio, but be careful before giving this guy money or associating him with the campaign.

He does have varied interests but he has successfully done what he says he can do with radio ads. He has said he would help for free OR teach the RP staff what he knows. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water. I didn't see his suggested ad containing anything else but Ron Paul. Unlike this site he is not trying to promote any other agenda but Paul for this thread.

If he works for free and Ron's people will pay directly for the adds, so tell me how is taking any money?

Use his media professionalism not his other beliefs.

He has some other good idea's to regain control over our government.

He has battled so long he has run into opposition from one certain ethnic group he is bitter about but like I said use his expertise, you don't have to like him.

One of his ideas. He has been saying this for many years. like Edward Griffin

The Precinct Strategy is a simple strategy, eminently do-able. It is designed Everyday Americans, like you and me, with a time commitment of between 5 and 30 hours per year. (To read about the entire plan and join your influence to that of other Americans in this realistic action plan, go to www.networkamerica.org .) The Precinct Meetings take place in each county -- in your county -- around February to May of the even years (i.e., May, 2008). It is at these countywide precinct organizational meetings that the parties in power (almost always the local Democrat and Republican parties) choose their local party leaders. These local party leaders determine (almost always) who are the candidates on the ballot in November, i.e., pick the candidate who will be elected to office in November. And then those elected go to city hall, to the state capital, or to Washington D.C. to make the laws. And those who make the laws largely determine your country's future. Back to the precinct system where it all begins: these local party leaders also determine how the votes will be counted in your county. So, in practical terms, the only way to put honest men and women on the ballot in your area in November, and to ensure an honest, public count of the ballots on election day -- it to use the precinct system to election honest party leaders in the local parties in your own county. (Third parties have their place even now to raise issues and educate the public, but until an honest vote count can be restored at the county level, third party candidates are effectively checkmated for the next 1000 years.) A good first step to take back the USA would be for thousands of Americans spanning most of the counties in the nation to at least find out where their county precinct meeting is for either the local Democratic or local Republican party, and then go to observe it in 2008. It would be better if each of us would get on the ballot for the precinct office in our local neighborhood (this usually takes about 5 signatures gathered from your neighbors). -- If we area elected at the spring primary, then we become a precinct executive in our party and go on to participate in the county precinct organizational meeting. (1/3rd of the precinct positions in the USA are vacant, so just getting on the ballot and voting for yourself often ensures victory). --- What the country and the world desperately needs -- is for hundreds of thousands of normal Americans to simply ATTEND one of the county organizational meetings (precinct meetings) in their own counties in February through June 2008. Call the party headquarters of one of the parties in power in your own county (invariably this will be limited to the Democratic and Republican parties). Ask them where the meeting is (it will usually be an a VFW hall or a local convention center) -- and attend it. You will be amazed that these are the virtually unknown meetings where the party leaders are elected who could restore an open and honest vote count to your county, and who could nominate honest and alert candidates for the November election. These even-year precinct organizational meetings (which are held shortly after the spring primary elections in your county) are where all normal people and all alert Americans must turn their attention, -- because how our votes are counted, and who gets to be on the November ballot for US Congress and local office -- are basically determined at these gatherings. Expect opposition from almost all the well-known groups, which groups are by 2006 basically obedient arms of either the Democratic Party or the Republican Party -- That's why we need normal Americans at the county level to replace the agents of the evil Ruling Elite with people of conscience -- who will restore and protect true freedom under God. To join your influence with that of other Everyday Americans in a realistic and effective plan, go to this website: www.networkamerica.org

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LibertyEagle
07-12-2007, 09:25 PM
whoa whoa... check out http://www.realnews247.com/

It comes off as nut case conspiracy theory barely readable site.

I am all for getting Ron Paul on talk radio, but be careful before giving this guy money or associating him with the campaign.

Yeah, after reading this, I regret sending his initial message on to RPHQ this morning.

giskard
07-12-2007, 09:50 PM
I'm going to disagree a bit. Not on the message, but on the execution.

It's still extremely early in the campaign. I would continue to ride the word of mouth and internet coverage that is driving people to the campaign for a few more months.

I disagree. The earlier the better. We need to take advantage of the power of exponential growth. We need to have TIME on our side to have his name spread. Think of planting a bunch of seeds earlier rather than later...

rpf2008
07-12-2007, 09:52 PM
Ok this guy is a genius, I agree with his idea about the radio ads.

Don't discount information just because of where it comes from. If yall knew my background you'd probably stay way the hell away from me. End result, I got good info, a brain in my head, I support Ron Paul and am trying to convert people everyday.

Don't go to bed with the devil over Ron, but it won't kill you to listen to what the devil has to say.


*Not saying this guy is the devil, I know nothing about him - just making a point.

thuja
07-12-2007, 09:53 PM
fabulous! i hope the campaign read this. someone tell them to read this, and do it.
we cannot sit around being glad for the teeny exposure he is getting. i talked to several people today about Ron Paul and all of them failed to have heard of him before.

giskard
07-12-2007, 09:54 PM
whoa whoa... check out http://www.realnews247.com/

It comes off as nut case conspiracy theory barely readable site.

I am all for getting Ron Paul on talk radio, but be careful before giving this guy money or associating him with the campaign.

That stuff may or may not be true. But what's wrong with his suggested plan? What, it's a trap?

Wyurm
07-12-2007, 10:32 PM
Be open-minded. The campaign has the last say, so if they feel it wouldn't work, it won't air. Just because you either don't agree with his personal views or perhaps agree but don't like how it looks isn't a good reason to reject his professional expertise.

Now, both his email and his site have something that does bother me and it may just be that he's a salesman, but I can't stand when I have to read through pages and pages of info before I finally get to the selling point. Just a note.

Other than that, it looks like it would make a good commercial.

EvoPro
07-12-2007, 11:07 PM
I would bet a ton of money(if I had it) that the campaign would more than double it's money in contributions as a result from a good ad.

I agree completely that we need more support now and the campaign should spend some money on radio ads. The deep voice is a great idea. I really hope the campaign reviews and considers this.

jpa
07-12-2007, 11:42 PM
ok, I have had more time to read thru his various web sites.

Here is my take:
- he is a passionate person with some good ideas on how to build support (www.networkamerica.org)
- he is terrible at marketing & communications. Do not let him craft the message
- the stuff on realnews247.com is way too extreme & radical to be associated with RP presidential campaign

skyorbit
07-12-2007, 11:51 PM
Ths Paul campain needs to start running Radio ads in IOWA now. If $300,000 is an accurate figure for the country. It wouldn't cost near that much to saturate Iowa with it.

Tracy

skyorbit
07-12-2007, 11:53 PM
Speaking of which. Is this something meet-up groups in the State of Iowas could sponsor themselves? Start you're own ad campain. I'd donate to it.

Tracy

Dan Klaus
07-13-2007, 04:00 AM
Is this something meet-up groups in the State of Iowas could sponsor themselves? Start you're own ad campain. I'd donate to it.

Myself as well...and to the campaign...

Man from La Mancha
07-13-2007, 04:11 AM
I think you have to be the candidate himself to qualify under the law that they have to run the ads. But as an individual you could run ads for Paul but the radio stations could refuse to air them on shows like Hannity or what ever.

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sunny
07-13-2007, 05:54 AM
fabulous! i hope the campaign read this. someone tell them to read this, and do it. we cannot sit around being glad for the teeny exposure he is getting. i talked to several people today about Ron Paul and all of them failed to have heard of him before.

thuja - why don't YOU call??? why are you HOPING someone else will call???

heiwa
07-13-2007, 06:04 AM
Hey all,

I think advertising locally is a great way to go. Personally, I wouldn't voice it as a "the big bad media is against us" - it's too whiny and self-defeating for my tastes. I'd rather it was more like, "Wouldn't it be great if the government minded it's own business and stayed out of yours? Ron Paul is the only candidate who ..."

I did a little research to see what we can do ourselves in an affordable way...

Here are a few options.

1) Did you know you could advertise on your local weather channel on the "crawl" (the text that runs across the bottom of the screen) for as little as $10 a day (and in some places the ad runs 24 times in one day). If you have a meet up group of
30 folks, you can each kick in $10, and pay for an ad for a month.

http://advertising.about.com/od/televisionandradio/a/cableadvertise.htm

2) radio advertising. This one will take some legwork: calling local radio stations for rates and scheduling (ask for a rate card). According to some online articles, you should always bargain and can often get the rate cut by up to 50%. Certainly among our ranks are some professional voice over artists and some copy writers. We can make an ad ourselves, folks. From what I've read, the key is to match the ad to the target audience/radio station genre. I will research it more next week, but this sounds like an awesome project. We can make ads to target any audience.

3) Flyers. Right now, the main thrust should be making his name visible. If you have a printer, you can make signs, then get out there and post them everywhere. If you don't have time, but have money, most larger towns have flyer services who will post it for you for pretty reasonable rates. When I get back home, I'm going to post them especially outside of DMV and other gubament offices - lots of frustrated people come out of those places!

4) I haven't been in a movie theater in ages. Do they still have the slide shows at the beginning from local advertisers? This would be a great place for a burmashave approach.

5) I remember a hypnotist who used to have a weekly show on an am station in Florida. Having a weekly radio show in a small town could be a lot of fun - I'm going to look into this when I get back too. I'm not sure how much it will cost, but if I remember right, it's unbearably cheap in small towns.

Man, can't wait to get home!

Jen

skyorbit
07-13-2007, 09:12 AM
Hey all,

I think advertising locally is a great way to go. Personally, I wouldn't voice it as a "the big bad media is against us" - it's too whiny and self-defeating for my tastes. I'd rather it was more like, "Wouldn't it be great if the government minded it's own business and stayed out of yours? Ron Paul is the only candidate who ..."

I did a little research to see what we can do ourselves in an affordable way...

Here are a few options.

1) Did you know you could advertise on your local weather channel on the "crawl" (the text that runs across the bottom of the screen) for as little as $10 a day (and in some places the ad runs 24 times in one day). If you have a meet up group of
30 folks, you can each kick in $10, and pay for an ad for a month.

http://advertising.about.com/od/televisionandradio/a/cableadvertise.htm

2) radio advertising. This one will take some legwork: calling local radio stations for rates and scheduling (ask for a rate card). According to some online articles, you should always bargain and can often get the rate cut by up to 50%. Certainly among our ranks are some professional voice over artists and some copy writers. We can make an ad ourselves, folks. From what I've read, the key is to match the ad to the target audience/radio station genre. I will research it more next week, but this sounds like an awesome project. We can make ads to target any audience.

3) Flyers. Right now, the main thrust should be making his name visible. If you have a printer, you can make signs, then get out there and post them everywhere. If you don't have time, but have money, most larger towns have flyer services who will post it for you for pretty reasonable rates. When I get back home, I'm going to post them especially outside of DMV and other gubament offices - lots of frustrated people come out of those places!

4) I haven't been in a movie theater in ages. Do they still have the slide shows at the beginning from local advertisers? This would be a great place for a burmashave approach.

5) I remember a hypnotist who used to have a weekly show on an am station in Florida. Having a weekly radio show in a small town could be a lot of fun - I'm going to look into this when I get back too. I'm not sure how much it will cost, but if I remember right, it's unbearably cheap in small towns.

Man, can't wait to get home!

Jen

Yeah. If somebody wants to make some good ad copies and post the audios on the internet. Anybody would be able to download them and take them to their radio station and buy adds with it.

Tracy

skyorbit
07-15-2007, 09:19 AM
Is their any effort by Iowans to make some radio ads and then broadcast them? I'd help support the Iowa ads.

Tracy

Roxi
07-15-2007, 12:07 PM
That stuff may or may not be true. But what's wrong with his suggested plan? What, it's a trap?

I dont know his last name IS Condit.....HEE HEE

skyorbit
07-16-2007, 12:14 AM
Is their any effort by Iowans to make some radio ads and then broadcast them? I'd help support the Iowa ads.

Tracy

Bump. I'm not in Iowa, and don't know anything about making ads. But certainly somebody in Iowa that likes Paul knows how to make radio adds, and we could start a campaign to get the adds on Iowa Radio. If $300,000 can cover the country. Certainly it wouldn't take many funds to cover much of Iowa. do it on your own. Don't wait for the campagn.

Tracy

Lord Xar
07-16-2007, 12:45 AM
Yeah. If somebody wants to make some good ad copies and post the audios on the internet. Anybody would be able to download them and take them to their radio station and buy adds with it.

Tracy

nice.. I was thinking this too. I was actually gonna meet up with a friend and lay down some radio tracks with music and voice-over... when done, I will post.

Lord Xar
07-16-2007, 12:45 AM
Bump. I'm not in Iowa, and don't know anything about making ads. But certainly somebody in Iowa that likes Paul knows how to make radio adds, and we could start a campaign to get the adds on Iowa Radio. If $300,000 can cover the country. Certainly it wouldn't take many funds to cover much of Iowa. do it on your own. Don't wait for the campagn.

Tracy

I don't know why some big heavy hitters (rich people) just don't come out and sorta "fund" these things.. Since its not "donating">. why can't they do it! :-)

Slugg
07-16-2007, 01:04 AM
I don't know why some big heavy hitters (rich people) just don't come out and sorta "fund" these things.. Since its not "donating">. why can't they do it! :-)

I've wondered the same thing...I am not rich at all, but I am not reportly poor. I am doing my best to give anything and everything I can to Ron Paul. I am even buying tickets to the San Antonio fundraiser to hand out to 'on the fence' people.....but, there is no way I can afford any real radio/t.v. ad for Dr. Paul....I really REALLY want to see the campaign hit the media hard with advertisements....it would make me just feel better.

Thomas_Paine
07-16-2007, 02:12 AM
I understand that Ron Paul is trying to stay away from any type of a fringe image. But it would be quite easy to produce an ad which presents Paul as the true conservative alternative. For awhile I have wondered as to what the campaigns strategy is as far as ads. Have ANY national ads been run? We need More campaign materials from headquarters, I hope they keep up with the ground support that is building.

poppop_schell
07-16-2007, 02:40 PM
Yeah, the campaign needs to get in touch with him to incorporate some of his strategies. The main conflict that I see with his approach is that the RP campaign does not want to appear to be a "protest" or "anti-conspiracy" campaign, but rather a normal and positive campaign. But, who can argue with running radio ads as proposed?

I have Jim Condit since at least 2000 when I ran for NC Governor. He knows what he is talking about especailly when it comes to vote fraud and getting around the MSM.

That said, we are trying to get th ear of key National Campaign people but its like trying to communicate with someone in the Bermuda Triangle.... messages go in and nothing comes out.

giskard
07-16-2007, 02:49 PM
Any news?

jpa
08-09-2007, 05:36 PM
Yea, Jim Conduit is doing WONDERS for the campaign in Iowa<sarcasm>

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=11257

I warned about embracing people do not present themselves well as spokespeople (official or not) for Ron Paul's campaign. I actually believe vote fraud is a good cause, and I am willing to help out with reform.

HOWEVER, there is no room or reason for this cause to be in any way associated with the Ron Paul campaign. Including postings and discussion on these forums. This is a concern of all American citizens, not just supporters of one campaign or another.

giskard
08-17-2007, 11:51 AM
So what's the news with this general idea?

DeadheadForPaul
08-17-2007, 11:55 AM
Isn't this the same guy associating Dr. Paul with the recount of the completely legit Iowa straw poll?

If so, we should distance ourselves from him

bygone
08-17-2007, 11:59 AM
Go big or go home.

giskard
08-17-2007, 12:01 PM
Pls. read the first post about placing ads during neocon talk shows.
Forget about Condit, I'm asking about the idea, not the man.

READ THIS:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=64241&postcount=1

FSP-Rebel
08-17-2007, 12:03 PM
So, what's the deal with this thing? I think this is crucial and a vital money-making avenue for the campaign.