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SonicInfinity
12-28-2007, 03:57 PM
It looks pretty grim right now.

Joe3113
12-28-2007, 03:59 PM
There is a mini-bomb on dec 31st

Paulitician
12-28-2007, 04:00 PM
Doubt it.

max
12-28-2007, 04:01 PM
i do not understand why hq isnt asking 100,000 donors for a final push to hit thw 2o million milestone...

wtf?!....20 sounds so much better than 19

kushaze
12-28-2007, 04:01 PM
I expect so. Hopefully the campaign sends out a letter the morning of that day saying its the end of the quarter.

sherpah23
12-28-2007, 04:03 PM
My wife and I are planning on donating another $250.00 on new years eve. What better way to bring in the new year - but with throwing some $ at the best (if not only) hope for America.

A few friends of mine keep asking me to donate it now or yesterday etc in order to bring the daily total up, but we are making this part of our new years eve celebration. So Dec 31st. $250.00 more headed your way Dr. Paul.

ronpaulfan
12-28-2007, 04:08 PM
19 million is good enough IMO.

Once the MSM starts treating Ron Paul like a frontrunner, we'll have over 20 million each quarter.

pacelli
12-28-2007, 04:08 PM
Today is ron paul's payday. I gave.

risiusj
12-28-2007, 04:15 PM
19 million is good enough IMO.

We need $20 million for that big boost into the category of Hillary and Obama fundraising.
Other Republicans will raise in the teens, if we are in the 20s then they have to talk about it.

shrugged0106
12-28-2007, 04:18 PM
Do you think there could be a Million in offlines by chance? Maybe they are just waiting until the end so people keep donating. Thats what I would do.

LiveToWin
12-28-2007, 04:20 PM
Do you think there could be a Million in offlines by chance? Maybe they are just waiting until the end so people keep donating. Thats what I would do.

AHHH! I forgot about that, they will probably add those in on the 31st.

Cindy
12-28-2007, 04:24 PM
We are giving again on New Year Eve. Not sure how much.

I do hope the end of the 4th quarter push, takes us over $20 mill.

Even at 19 mill, MSNBC was just talking about the 5 "legitmate" Republican candidates and somehow, Paul was not considered one of them because of "national polling numbers." Unbelievable that his shy of 19 million haul in quarter quarter counts for squat by the medias measures.

They are going to look like asses with the American public, when they report Q4 numbers. Watch them not report them, leave Pauls numbers out, or come up with some reason to explain away why Paul did so much better then the rest.

It'll probably be the " strong internet support" crapola, as if most of his internet support are not U.S. tax paying citisens with voters registration cards.

I swear, the MSM treats the internet like it's found in another dimension, accessed only by beings from another star system.

shadowhooch
12-28-2007, 04:27 PM
At this point....money figures don't mean much. The ENTIRE focus of the media will be on the Primary results starting January 3rd.

I don't think 20 million will get much press or make people suddenly aware of Ron Paul. We've gotten all the press we could with the money bombs. So kudos to us!

Though, ever bit more money helps fund more advertising for Feb 5th.

Joe3113
12-28-2007, 04:31 PM
We are giving again on New Year Eve. Not sure how much.

I do hope the end of the 4th quarter push, takes us over $20 mill.

Even at 19 mill, MSNBC was just talking about the 5 "legitmate" Republican candidates and somehow, Paul was not considered one of them because of "national polling numbers." Unbelievable that his shy of 19 million haul in quarter quarter counts for squat by the medias measures.

They are going to look like asses with the American public, when they report Q4 numbers. Watch them not report them, leave Pauls numbers out, or come up with some reason to explain away why Paul did so much better then the rest.

It'll probably be the " strong internet support" crapola, as if most of his internet support are not U.S. tax paying citisens with voters registration cards.

I swear, the MSM treats the internet like it's found in another dimension, accessed only by beings from another star system.

The 'internet' tactic is so obvious. Everytime they report on Ron they say 'internet' this and 'internet' that. It is designed to give people the illusion that the internet is not real people and that Ron's support is marginalized in a single-minded group.

I highly doubt they will report 4q fundraising in any fashion that will make it clear Ron is 1st. They use subtle techniques which are blatantly obvious to us but not to the average beer swiller.

Midnight77
12-28-2007, 04:33 PM
Don't see it happening. We'll be lucky to get to $19.5 Million, but even that is looking grim right now.

WachterZ
12-28-2007, 04:35 PM
I don't think there is anything that can get us press. If we do well in the polls, they omit his name on the reports. If we break fundraising records, we get just enough press to acknowledge it. Debates ignore Ron Paul, or give him questions to make him sound like a 3rd party long shot or conspiracy theorist. So don't count on $20 mil waking the MSM up. We'll be lucky if winning a primary even does.

It's up to the proles.

Mark Rushmore
12-28-2007, 04:49 PM
Hell at this point money that would be donated to the campaign in the next few days is probably better donated to Iowa/NH grassroots, or chipins that are geared toward Iowa/NH.

19.4 vs. 20.1 mil is nothing compared to 4th place vs 3rd place or 3rd place vs 2nd place in Iowa - and that's strictly about how many people we can turn out that day.

Honestly I think 19.x mil looks better than just breaking 20.0x or 20.1: it's a very "high number" in the 10. bracket rather than being a very "low" number in the 20. bracket. But that's just my own opinion.

xexkxex
12-28-2007, 04:50 PM
http://www.donate2008.org/

Grandson of Liberty
12-28-2007, 04:54 PM
1. I say we'll make it.

2. If we don't, it's not the end of the world. :)

LukeNM
12-28-2007, 05:03 PM
I'll bet it is closer to $21M...

billybigrigger
12-28-2007, 05:55 PM
The "money bomb" aspect of the grassroots movement is past. MSM reacted to it once because it was caught off gaurd, but they caught themselves the last time. At this point the campaign probably is having a harder time spending all the money than anything else.

At this point the money issue is not important, 18 mil, 19 mil, 20 mil, its irrelevant if the goal is to force media coverage. Not that the campaign wont need more money, but money bombs and breaking records, or being tops in fundraising wont get media attention as evidenced by the suppression of the Boston Tea Party.

Its time to develop the grassroots movement to the next phase, whatever that is. Trust that it will come, the collective passion, power, and pure genius of the revolution cannot be stopped.

walt
12-28-2007, 05:56 PM
The "money bomb" aspect of the grassroots movement is past. MSM reacted to it once because it was caught off gaurd, but they caught themselves the last time. At this point the campaign probably is having a harder time spending all the money than anything else.

At this point the money issue is not important, 18 mil, 19 mil, 20 mil, its irrelevant if the goal is to force media coverage. Not that the campaign wont need more money, but money bombs and breaking records, or being tops in fundraising wont get media attention as evidenced by the suppression of the Boston Tea Party.

Its time to develop the grassroots movement to the next phase, whatever that is. Trust that it will come, the collective passion, power, and pure genius of the revolution cannot be stopped.

+1

wgadget
12-28-2007, 05:57 PM
But $20 Million would be so much easier to SAY than $18.8M.

Paulitician
12-28-2007, 06:03 PM
But $20 Million would be so much easier to SAY than $18.8M.
It sounds much better, too.

stevedasbach
12-28-2007, 06:03 PM
Hell at this point money that would be donated to the campaign in the next few days is probably better donated to Iowa/NH grassroots, or chipins that are geared toward Iowa/NH.

19.4 vs. 20.1 mil is nothing compared to 4th place vs 3rd place or 3rd place vs 2nd place in Iowa - and that's strictly about how many people we can turn out that day.

Honestly I think 19.x mil looks better than just breaking 20.0x or 20.1: it's a very "high number" in the 10. bracket rather than being a very "low" number in the 20. bracket. But that's just my own opinion.

20.0 definitely beats 19.9 psychologically.

FreeTraveler
12-28-2007, 06:08 PM
I swear, the MSM treats the internet like it's found in another dimension, accessed only by beings from another star system.

Quiet! They're not supposed to know that after Dennis blew it by revealing our involvement, we had to switch over to Dr. Paul. If the MSM finds out we're all aliens, Tancredo will attempt to have us all deported!

Nano-Nano!

bigbinc
12-28-2007, 06:10 PM
This will put us with the front runners. We must make 20 Million and I think we will.

Dutch
12-28-2007, 06:17 PM
Why do you think they price stuff at $19.99 and not $20?
The psychological difference is way bigger than 1 cent!

Dutch

Paulitician
12-28-2007, 06:22 PM
There are only 3 days left. I'd like to know how some of you think we can actually raise 1.15 million dollars in just 3 days.

I think if the official campaign made another goal to raise however much we need to get to 20 million dollars, we could do it. But they way they're letting it just hang, we aren't.

Molly1
12-28-2007, 06:24 PM
I"m waiting until dec 31 to donate again, too.

I'm wondering why the Ron Paul campaign doesn't hire their own pollsters and get the record straight?

phixion
12-28-2007, 06:29 PM
There's 1,000 pledges @ $100 each for the 31st money bomb.

There's no reason $20,000,000 won't be accomplished.

Pete

evadmurd
12-28-2007, 06:32 PM
The press will read, "Ron Paul failed to reach 20 million in his fundraising this quarter."

Amazing...simply amazing

tsetsefly
12-28-2007, 06:32 PM
I will donate 25 on the 31st too, the campaign will most likely add at least 200k in offline donations and the mini money bomb is probably going to generate 500,000. Its going to be close imo. Hopefully the campaign sends out an email on teh 30th.

nimo
12-28-2007, 06:36 PM
We don't need 20 million we need people on the ground getting the word out. The media could careless about our breach of 20 mil. There was no media on it when Hillary or Obama did it. 20 mil is nothing more than a psychological number, it won't convert anyone.

vadimg
12-28-2007, 06:43 PM
pledge now http://donate2008.org

Just Come Home
12-28-2007, 06:46 PM
I'm ok with 19 million.

I'm saving up for www.freeatlast2008.com

theseus51
12-28-2007, 06:46 PM
There's 1,000 pledges @ $100 each for the 31st money bomb.

There's no reason $20,000,000 won't be accomplished.

Pete

I think you may have done the math wrong :rolleyes:

Dr.3D
12-28-2007, 06:54 PM
Edit

user
12-28-2007, 07:00 PM
Quiet! They're not supposed to know that after Dennis blew it by revealing our involvement, we had to switch over to Dr. Paul. If the MSM finds out we're all aliens, Tancredo will attempt to have us all deported!

Nano-Nano!

Hahahaha

Paulitician
12-28-2007, 07:08 PM
I think you may have done the math wrong :rolleyes:
He's just doubling the money.

If we get just 6-8 thousands pledges, we can raise 1 million dollars because there are always more donors than there are pledges.

derekjohnson
12-28-2007, 07:23 PM
they have been adding a couple hundred in offline each week and I woldn't be surprised to see an e-mail the mornign of the 31st.

SonicInfinity
12-28-2007, 11:17 PM
I hope you are all right and he could make it. It would suck to end at like, 19.5.

dekinono
12-29-2007, 01:52 AM
I would just feel good that is at 20Milllion. I don't care about the the retarded media, they have shown their true colors. I just we start our own TV and Radio Station that is biased against the govt and its excesses.

Psyclone
12-29-2007, 02:15 AM
I'm not sure its a given that we are going to get to $19 million, and I'm strongly betting against $20 million. Nobody has any money left after the Tea Party and Christmas.

robert4rp08
12-29-2007, 02:26 AM
Yes.

Prediction: On Sunday, $450k in offline donations will be added and Ron Paul will send out an email resulting in a final fundraising push in 2007. We will finish with $2.1 million.

user
12-30-2007, 01:59 AM
Yes.

Prediction: On Sunday, $450k in offline donations will be added and Ron Paul will send out an email resulting in a final fundraising push in 2007. We will finish with $2.1 million.

I think we'll finish with about 10 times that amount. :eek:

ross11988
12-30-2007, 05:29 AM
IT was pretty much our fault that we didnt do a rudy's reading list small money bomb at the end of the month. The campaign should of set a goal of $20 million for the month and did what they did last year and do a last week money blitz