Finally! A spam proof poll!

[bc2208]

www.rasmussenmarkets.com

Rasmussen has launched a mirror of intrade - the stock market for political predictions. The Raz version doesn't accept money, but it has play money for all users. It is authenticated by address and email.

Everyone should go to the site right now, register (takes just a few minutes) and buy all of Ron's stock! Hopefully we can drive it up to the top. Giuliani currently leads at 29.

[uncloned21]

How is it spam-proof?

[bc2208]

Spam in the sense of users voting more than once, i.e., deleting cookies on the AOL poll. In this, each user only gets a set amount of money, to be spent according to his desire.

[bc2208]

I just raised the price from 6.4 to 10.5 in a few minutes. Let's get him to the top.

[ThomasJ]

Dr. Paul is not included in most of the state primary winner categories. If you think he will win it buy Field

[jdmetz]

I was just going to post this. Futures markets are considered a fairly reliable way to gauge the likelihood of an event happening. Of course, using fake money makes it somewhat less reliable.

Anyway, if you think Ron Paul will win the Republican nomination (and who here doesn't?), then you should sign up and buy some contracts (or enter some buy orders to support the price). This is much better than most online polls, and is being run by Rasmussen Reports, so it might even get some press.

[ExpatinArgentina]

This is great. Just dumped all $10,000 on Ron Paul and it looks like everyone else is doing the same the way his stats are jumping. Good work guys.

[sgrooms]

just bought 500 shares!! :)

[brumans]

I don't get it.. can someone explain in more detail how this works?

[sgrooms]

what makes the price drop back to 8.1 and 8.2? are people selling?

[sgrooms]

just dumped all 10k in

[sgrooms]

+2.8 today

[ExpatinArgentina]

+11.4!!! Keep it going.

[JPFromTally]

Well what's better:

Going all in or dollar-cost-averaging?

[Nyte]

lol he's at almost 45 now.

[sgrooms]

see how it just dropped? what makes it do that?

[bc2208]

Hahaha! Great job guys!

[LiveToWin]

All in for Winning the whole thing

[AgentPaul001]

wtf it jsut dropped a ton.

I was going to sell at 40 and make a MASSIVE profit lol. Darn!

Romney is dropping fast though, glad I shorted him :)

[JPFromTally]

Also, you can use your money to lower the other candidates... (sell)

[bc2208]

oh boo, theyre selling it down

[grizzums]

Come on...some of us need to take some profits...lol :)

[Nyte]

i sold 300 shares at 40.

[ExpatinArgentina]

Take it back up

[mexicanpizza]

Got in at 8. Now it's >19. :D

[Nyte]

selling guiliani and huckabee! gogogo!

[jdmetz]

Here is how futures markets work:

If you think an event will happen (in this case, Ron Paul win the Republican Nomination), you buy contracts. If you think it won't happen, you sell them. When the contract settles (when the nomination is decided in this case), it is worth either $10 (if he wins the nomination) or $0 (if he doesn't).

So, if you bought 10 contracts at 8.0 ($0.80/contract), your cost is $8, and you get $100 if he wins or nothing if he loses. On the other hand, if you sell 10 contracts at 8.0, you get $8 right now, and if he loses you pay nothing to the people who bought them from you, but if he wins you pay $100 to those people.

Anyhow, for those of you buying Ron Paul contracts (I already spent most of my money doing so, and the rest selling Giuliani), at this point I would recommend setting your own price in the 8-10 range. Rather than buying one contract at 40, you could buy 4 at 10. Also, the people selling them need to have $90 in reserve when they sell at 10, but only $60 when they sell at 40.

[AgentPaul001]

How do you sell your existing positions?

[Nyte]

in the trade window, instead of "agree" select "disagree"

[lnieves]

fyi, at Intrade (where real money is put into play), the Ron Paul contract is trading at 6.4/6.5 right now: http://data.intrade.com/graphing/jsp/timeAndSalesForm.jsp?contractId=443007&tradeURL=https://www.intrade.com

[AgentPaul001]

I thought that was how you basically short a contract?

I've got 4 Positions right now. For EX: Romney I "disagreed" at 32.00 and now he's at around 27.00, I'd like to get rid of my contract so I "take" a profit of 5.00?

How do I get rid of my 599 Disagree futures?

I tried doing what you said, agreeing at 27.00, but it said that it was a seperate order.

[Nyte]

hmm... got up over 25 and reset agian

[sgrooms]

ive already made 4k :)

[mexicanpizza]

Free market will prevail over Ron Paul supporters trying to buy up and hold contracts. :D

[Nyte]

i don't like this... someone wants Paul to be around 8-9.... they keep reseting the price

[mexicanpizza]

^ No one is "resetting" the price. There are sellers and buyers who keep agreeing on ~8-ish as the price.

I'm betting it's mostly due to a lot of stock market noobs not using limit orders. :D

[emilysdad]

How is it spam-proof?

No more spam proof than the daily manipulation of stock prices on Wall Street. LOL. I sure hope this "game" using "fake" money doesn't become some sort of benchmark for electability. That would be very dangerous.

This is a game. Nothing more.

[Nyte]

^ No one is "resetting" the price. There are sellers and buyers who keep agreeing on ~8-ish as the price.

I'm betting it's mostly due to a lot of stock market noobs not using limit orders. :D

I confirmed this myself... i bought every order and drove the price up to 20... and kept putting in orders over 20.

It reset back down to 8.4 twice

Watch the daily graph.

And just a couple minutes ago, someone just sold 10000 shares at 9.3. Strange it was exactly 10000, when you can only sell 499 at a time

Someone is manipulating this.

[mbrebstock]

I confirmed this myself... i bought every order and drove the price up to 20... and kept putting in orders over 20.

It reset back down to 8.4 twice

Watch the daily graph.

And just a couple minutes ago, someone just sold 10000 shares at 9.3. Strange it was exactly 10000, when you can only sell 499 at a time

Someone is manipulating this.

if you buy all shares until you have no more money and the price is than by 20 it's not that crazy that the price is falling to 8.4 very fast. because you paid to much and everybody is able to sell is for 20 while knowing to be able to buy them in 5 minutes for 8.4 and because of that the price is at 8.4 even faster.

i like this game. the free market is really a nice game.

[Nyte]

if you buy all shares until you have no more money and the price is than by 20 it's not that crazy that the price is falling to 8.4 very fast. because you paid to much and everybody is able to sell is for 20 while knowing to be able to buy them in 5 minutes for 8.4 and because of that the price is at 8.4 even faster.

i like this game. the free market is really a nice game.

I made a shit-load of money when I rode the wave up to 40. I had plenty to spend.

Someone just deleted the huge ceiling at 9.3 and adjusted it down to 8.6 with 5000 shares.

There was still 5000 shares at 9.3, and then all of a sudden those are gone and 5000 shares appear at 8.6?

Watch the Order Book ((click on "More Info"))...

Look at this chart:
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7427/raschartre3.jpg

There's no way the stock would "correct" like that on its own with that kind of volume.

I'm convinced that someone is manipulating this.

[RonPaulCult]

You guys are just a bunch of pump and dumpers :)

[LiveToWin]

Holding at a position of 6945 on Ron Paul getting the GOP nomination.




And we all know if he gets the nominations he will win :cool:

[ExpatinArgentina]

Holding for Ron Paul

[RonPaulCult]

Haha I just made it go up like 10 dollars

[ExpatinArgentina]

Short McCain!!!

[RonPaulCult]

Prediction - Ron Paul will be over 100 by the end of the night now that we're talking about it on ronpaulforums :)

[Nyte]

I sent them an email about 20 min ago... since the email, I haven't seen any artificial ASK offers or price "corrections".

We'll see...

[bc2208]

What did the email say?

[mbrebstock]

i'm pretty sure that there is no need for any "price corrections" - if ron paul shares cost 40 - its too high and it has to fall.

and it is no problem to sell 5000 pieces - you call sell several times 499 shares + an additional 10
10*499 = 4990 + 10 = 5000

you can enter these orders in less than 20 sec.

[RonPaulCult]

Yeah it just happened again - it was trading at 29 and then it was placed at 8.4

FAKE and FIXED

[ExpatinArgentina]

Someone is messing with it. How can it drop so fast?

[RonPaulCult]

I'm done 5000 dollars now by the way

This is almost as fixed as the real stock market :)

[RonPaulCult]

Hmm it's because people aren't raising their bid prices

the sell prices right now are 15 dollars and the next one is 29

[Nyte]

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6830/orderbookzv9.jpg

More fake ASKs established...

5000 @ 19.9 :rolleyes:

[RonPaulCult]

This is bull - give me a break

[Nyte]

What did the email say?

Here's what I sent:

I'm not sure you're aware of this ((however; I'm sure you are)) but someone is manipulating the value of the 2008.GOP.NOM.PAUL contracts.

I've been watching this contract for 2 hours now, and someone is changing the price of the contract and placing artificial trades. I've got screenshots of 5000 and 10000 ASK orders being placed at 9.3 and 8.6. When the contract climbs around 20, it's reset back to 8.

These kind of shenanigans aren't going to win Rasmussen any credibility points. I hope it stops.

Regards,

[mbrebstock]

464258508 Limit Buy 499 499 8.1 GTC Open Cancel
464258648 Limit Buy 499 279 8.2 GTC Partial Cancel
464258790 Limit Buy 499 299 8.3 GTC Partial Cancel
464262426 Limit Buy 499 499 8.4 GTC Open Cancel
464263613 Limit Buy 499 499 8.4 GTC Open Cancel
464266522 Limit Buy 499 499 8.0 GTC Open Cancel
464266840 Limit Buy 499 499 8.1 GTC Open Cancel
464267058 Limit Buy 499 499 7.5 GTC Open Cancel
464269044 Limit Buy 499 499 8.4 GTC Open Cancel
464247760 Limit Sell 499 499 20.0 GTC Open Cancel
464249106 Limit Sell 499 499 24.0 GTC Open Cancel
464250811 Limit Sell 499 499 19.0 GTC Open Cancel
464251424 Limit Sell 499 499 18.0 GTC Open Cancel
464255244 Limit Sell 499 499 15.0 GTC Open Cancel
464255797 Limit Sell 499 499 15.0 GTC Open Cancel
464257968 Limit Sell 499 499 15.0 GTC Open Cancel
464258225 Limit Sell 499 499 14.0 GTC Open Cancel
464259248 Limit Sell 499 499 14.0 GTC Open Cancel
464259590 Limit Sell 499 499 15.0 GTC Open Cancel
464260165 Limit Sell 499 499 13.5 GTC Open Cancel
464262153 Limit Sell 499 499 14.0 GTC Open Cancel
464262879 Limit Sell 499 499 13.8 GTC Open Cancel
464265188 Limit Sell 499 499 13.2 GTC Open Cancel
464265338 Limit Sell 499 499 19.0 GTC Open Cancel
464265694 Limit Sell 499 499 25.0 GTC Open Cancel
464267503 Limit Sell 499 499 14.8 GTC Open Cancel

these are my open orders.
its useless you cant manipulate the market.

[JohnnyWrath]

More fake ASKs established...

I sold many at 20....it has been as high as 45??

also is there a cap on the number of shares or what?

I don't know much about this stuff.

[Nyte]

I sold many at 20....it has been as high as 45??

also is there a cap on the number of shares or what?

I don't know much about this stuff.

There's a cap of 499 per transaction.

[Nyte]

weeeeeeee.... reset again :rolleyes:

[mbrebstock]

if any car seller would sell 10 new porsche cars for 100 dollars each - the price is 100 dollars. but these 10 cars will be sold in a few minutes and then the price is at 100000 dollars again. there is no manipulation. the only manipulation is made by the guys who pay 40 $ each share.

[JohnnyWrath]

Where was I when the price hit 45 ??? could have made a fortune selling at over 40.

[sgrooms]

it was for less than a minute. i sold at 35 and made 4k

[Nyte]

ugh...i can't watch this...

rasmussen can suck my balls.

http://www.crygaia.com/cgnforums/images/smilies/teabag.gif

[JohnnyWrath]

ugh...i can't watch this...

rasmussen can suck my balls.

LOL

[jclay2]

Just got my login. Time to drive that Ron Paul stock through the roof. Lets put the Ron Paul Bull Market in full swing.

[jclay2]

Is there anyway to screw up the price share of other candidates.
If so, I want to make their stock plummit like the nasdaq bubble.

[bc2208]

No, their prices would go back to normal too. At least this way we're the most actively traded contract.

[OptionsTrader]

www.rasmussenmarkets.com

Rasmussen has launched a mirror of intrade - the stock market for political predictions. The Raz version doesn't accept money, but it has play money for all users. It is authenticated by address and email.

Everyone should go to the site right now, register (takes just a few minutes) and buy all of Ron's stock! Hopefully we can drive it up to the top. Giuliani currently leads at 29.

If you want to play the game well, you should try to arbitrage versus the real money version of what that site is attempting to do:

http://www.intrade.com/index.jsp?request_operation=trade&request_type=action&selConID=443007

[promagma]

Not rigged .... it is just acting like a thinly traded stock in the real market. That means if a bunch of us go in there and buy, we pay way too much, and eventually someone will come in and short the contract back to where the real cluster of bids are. As such, the "last" price means nothing, and you aren't guaranteed a fill at that price. You have to look at where the bids and offers are.

[mbrebstock]

is it possible to win anything by playing this game well?

it is really much fun!

im long with 12000 RON PAULs :)

[risk_reward]

If everyone keeps bidding on Paul the market will work to correct the imbalance and push Paul down. The market will not only push Paul down, but all other candidates as well.

Earlier today the market was in balance with Paul at 4. Now, the market is in balance with Paul at 10. If you keep bidding on Paul the market will continue to push all candidates down. It will push hardest on Paul because that is the one trying to reshape the market, but little by little the market is reshaped. So, keep bidding on Paul.

[mbrebstock]

yees push it up to 40 - than i make my first million :)

[risk_reward]

Someone needs to get the bid back to 12. Bidding a little lower than the ask, will help keep the price up.

[bc2208]

Someone needs to get the bid back to 12. Bidding a little lower than the ask, will help keep the price up.

Bumped it up.

[Nailhead]

ok i dont get it, someone give me a step by step...

What button to push
What values to put in the box

wanna dump it all on rp

[bc2208]

Lol....go to www.rasmussenmarkets.com

Create an account
When you get the email, actvate
Go to TRADING
On the left, click 2008 US ELECTION
Next to "2008.GOP.NOM.PAUL" click TRADE
Put 499 as your quantity
Put a price
Click OK


12.7-12.8

[jdmetz]

Strategy here - don't bother buying at the ask price (the high price) unless there are a lot of bids at the price right below it, otherwise, the seller knows he can buy some at a lower price real soon and is just taking your money.

For example, right now the bid/ask looks like this:

Ask
12.8 - 135

Bid
12.7 - 2
12.3 - 91
10.6 - 450

The lack of bid support above 10.6 means the price will quickly fall down to that level if someone starts selling. So, the person selling at 12.8 has no fear, because he can just enter a bid at 10.7 and be fairly certain to buy back his shares for a $0.21 profit on each. The most useful (and profitable) thing you can do to prop up the price is to fill in the missing bids. Make the sellers come to you.

[risk_reward]

Congrats! The market is now in equilibrium at 12. Next stop 15.

[JohnnyWrath]

Balance(R$)
Available: 3,479.44
Frozen: 16,652.99


wish it were real....10,000 in a day. :)


ps i REALLY GOT FUCKED BUYING mCcAIN STOCK BECAUSE IT WAS SO LOW...IT ONLY WENT DOWN LOL

[jdmetz]

Nice work - we've passed Huckabee!

[risk_reward]

Choo! Choo! Next stop McCain. He has some strong support at 17, so we will need to push hard.

[bc2208]

wish it were real....10,000 in a day. :)

you can do this for real

www.intrade.com

same exact thing

[RonPaulCult]

I'm having so much fun wit this. It should be said that it's not spam proof though because you can create an account with as many e-mail addresses as you have and they don't verify the name and address info.

[RonPaulCult]

Strategy here - don't bother buying at the ask price (the high price) unless there are a lot of bids at the price right below it, otherwise, the seller knows he can buy some at a lower price real soon and is just taking your money.

For example, right now the bid/ask looks like this:

Ask
12.8 - 135

Bid
12.7 - 2
12.3 - 91
10.6 - 450

The lack of bid support above 10.6 means the price will quickly fall down to that level if someone starts selling. So, the person selling at 12.8 has no fear, because he can just enter a bid at 10.7 and be fairly certain to buy back his shares for a $0.21 profit on each. The most useful (and profitable) thing you can do to prop up the price is to fill in the missing bids. Make the sellers come to you.


To be honest with you I have complete faith in hundreds if not thousands of forum members pushing this thing up sky high in the next few weeks so I say buy at any price.

[JohnnyWrath]

Where do I see what I have bought and own? I don't even know what I have to trade,, just what I am selling and buying...where is what I have?

[RonPaulCult]

Where do I see what I have bought and own?

click on "my portfolios" in the upper left hand corner

[promagma]

Where do I see what I have bought and own? I don't even know what I have to trade,, just what I am selling and buying...where is what I have?

Click on the gray "Positions" tab, halfway down the screen. Under "Posn" it tells you how many you own.

[JohnnyWrath]

Click on the gray "Positions" tab, halfway down the screen.

so the posn tells me what I have? and "ask" tells me what I am trying to sell because it's negative?

[promagma]

so the posn tells me what I have? and "ask" tells me what I am trying to sell because it's negative?

Correct ...

The positions and orders tab is all you really need.

[RonPaulVolunteer]

Hope Anthem, the song written by Marc Scibilia for the Ron Paul Revolution is now available for download by Ron Paul Forum readers. See the thread here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=67208

[ExpatinArgentina]

I've been shorting Rom, Huck and Mc, but how do I get rid of the shorts once I have them?

[risk_reward]

I've been shorting Rom, Huck and Mc, but how do I get rid of the shorts once I have them?

I think if you buy the same thing you sold, you will get rid of the shorts.

[risk_reward]

We were briefly past mccain. Time to push on.

[RonPaulCult]

I think if you buy the same thing you sold, you will get rid of the shorts.

Yeah you have to "buy to cover" - at a lower price to make money of course

[ExpatinArgentina]

I think if you buy the same thing you sold, you will get rid of the shorts.

That was it, thanks.

[newbitech]

some one is buying down at 16.2 16.3 there is no support there I am locked in at 17.5 come on yall!

[JohnnyWrath]

tell me what I am looking at...I lost money on MCCain LOL...I thought I sold it all off, why is it still there?? Thanks for the help. this is the position tab...

Contract
Posn Avg Last PL Bid Ask
2008 Presidential Election Winner (Individual) Cancel all
2008.PRES.McCAIN -676 8.4 8.1 -26.32

[RonPaulCult]

tell me what I am looking at...I lost money on MCCain LOL...I thought I sold it all off, why is it still there?? Thanks for the help. this is the position tab...

Contract
Posn Avg Last PL Bid Ask
2008 Presidential Election Winner (Individual) Cancel all
2008.PRES.McCAIN -676 8.4 8.1 -26.32

Try refreshing it - updates don't seem to be automatic

[newbitech]

only way to bring others down is to lose money on them unless some of their supporters are complete idiots.

[JohnnyWrath]

It has refreshed many times since I sold off all McCain...I still get this...

Posn Avg Last PL Bid Ask

-676 8.4 8.1 -26.32

no idea what it means. I bought a total of 499 of McCain, and it says -676....any help??? I am kind of clueless here.

[risk_reward]

I have wiped out all of Thompson's support. I am short 1653 on thompson. His bid is at 1.7, ouch!

[RonPaulCult]

What would be cool is if we all gathered together and shorted some anti-liberty company in the real markets.

Since our movement is so large we could really hurt the stock price of some company - and make some money in the process.

I am not quite so sure how legal it would be however

[newbitech]

ok all I am buying up to 19 on Ron Paul dont short me!

[promagma]

This is fun .... in my "real job" I trade in the real markets, I wish it were this easy. McCain is a good one to sell, he is due for a pullback. Also I am selling Huckabee because the order book is pretty thin. Look out below!

[ExpatinArgentina]

It has refreshed many times since I sold off all McCain...I still get this...

Posn Avg Last PL Bid Ask

-676 8.4 8.1 -26.32

no idea what it means. I bought a total of 499 of McCain, and it says -676....any help??? I am kind of clueless here.

You are short on Mc and need to buy 676 positions to get out of it.

[promagma]

It has refreshed many times since I sold off all McCain...I still get this...

Posn Avg Last PL Bid Ask

-676 8.4 8.1 -26.32

no idea what it means. I bought a total of 499 of McCain, and it says -676....any help??? I am kind of clueless here.

Apparently you are short 676. Also, FYI, that is the contract for McCain to "win it all", not get the GOP nomination.

[risk_reward]

we are past mccain for the nomination, 20 is next.

[newbitech]

thank you now it is up to all of you because I am oversold! good job all!~

[RonPaulCult]

I am up 5600 dollars - wish it were real :)

Not to sound like Jim Cramer here but BUY BUY BUY!!!!!!!!!!

[risk_reward]

were a getting close to Rumney & Goolianna

[RonPaulCult]

I want to see this thing explode when Ron Paul wins Iowa next week

[freedominnumbers]

This thing is funny. If there is one thing I've learned in stock trading it's the power of shorts.

Looks like keen shorting has now turned romney and mccain negative for the day.

[risk_reward]

Everyone is down except Paul. I told you if you keep buying Paul eveyone else will fall.

[jdmetz]

I step away from the computer for an hour and you guys have Ron Paul all the way up to 26! He's almost in first. Great work everyone.

This would be much more convincing if we were doing it in the real money intrade market. I looked into it before the TeaParty, but it looks like it can be a real pain to actually get money into the thing.

As far as shorting the other guys - if you buy it back, you haven't done much good (other than possibly taken some money from their supporters). If you just hold it until they lose, you get to keep all the money.

[risk_reward]

Here are my positions in the rest.


2008.GOP.NOM.GIULIANI -2900 28.4 28.0 125.72
2008.GOP.NOM.ROMNEY -2900 27.3 27.0 82.90
2008.GOP.NOM.HUCKABEE -2884 13.7 10.0 1067.78 -16 All
2008.GOP.NOM.MCCAIN -2855 17.3 16.2 306.63 -45 All
2008.GOP.NOM.THOMPSON(F) -2567 3.0 2.7 89.46

[risk_reward]

We are past them all. Next stop 30.

[JohnnyWrath]

be in the 40s in no time

[Allan Bartlett]

This is fun. I just bought Ron for $24 and sold him for $28.5 and then bought him back at $23.5

[Carole]

I know nothing about trading.


So I figure Ron Paul would jump if I priced him high. I bought 450 shares at 55 and he has definitely gone up.

Does that mean I should not sell unless he gets above 55? :)

[Carole]

He just dropped way down to 803.

What does that mean?

[Nyte]

it means someone at Rasmussen is manipulating the numbers.

[beobeli]

This thing is rigged.

We are back to 8 in a snap after being at 25-26 and with 1000s of shares up for bid in 8 - 25 range. This means that someone decided to sell so many cheap shares into the market that we dragged Paul's price down. Almost impossibility if this wasn't rigged. I am boycotting this BS.

[Jason0352]

Yeah this is bullshit. The orderbook (level3) 5 minutes ago showed good BID support from $15-$21. Totally manipulated.

[bc2208]

This thing is rigged.

We are back to 8 in a snap after being at 25-26 and with 1000s of shares up for bid in 8 - 25 range. This means that someone decided to sell so many cheap shares into the market that we dragged Paul's price down. Almost impossibility if this wasn't rigged. I am boycotting this BS.

I'd have to agree it's fishy. If someone observed us paying ridiculous prices, they would wait for us to come up rather than sell down.

But don't give up!

[Nyte]

notice how trading pauses every once in a while... then you get all these 200, 300, 400 (even number) trades forcing the price down.

[promagma]

As long as it manages to hold 7-8, I don't think it is rigged. As it gets later, the momentum dried up and the shorts took advantage. But remember, they are now sitting on large short positions, and that means they have to *buy* again to unwind.

[Nyte]

lol how can you say it's not rigged?

These shorts are coming out of thin air... There's no way in hell the floor falls out as fast as it's doing.

[beobeli]

I think it is rigged.

But let's use it to make as much money as possible then we can command/short price of other shares. Basically, place multiple orders for selling Paul in 17-40 range , and have large buying orders for Paul at 8-9 range. As the price goes up, you cash in, then you buy again low when Rasmussen does their "adjustment". If the adjustment slows down, we can begin raising this buy back share price to provide floor support for Paul.

By offering to by low, someone needs to be willing to sell you low. Perhaps some dumb Huck traders are shorting all they got on Paul at 8.3/share. That is fine, but once we suck all their money out of them, they'll have zero weapons. Then we win.

Rasmussen has a disclaimer: Warning: People attempting to gain advantage using unfair practices will be excluded from the leaderboard.

I guess this means that they reserve a right to rig the system. It's not "unfair practice" for a market to be hot on a particular stock/candidate. WTF.

[RonPaulCult]

Of course this is fixed. So in reality it has gone up like 50 dollars a share today :)

[beobeli]

lol how can you say it's not rigged?

These shorts are coming out of thin air... There's no way in hell the floor falls out as fast as it's doing.


Yeah... shorting shares "out of thin air" would be a rigging tactic.
Rasmussen = Federal Reserve.

We can play this "game" forever and make money. But if you try to use that money to short "losers" there is going to be buying of shares again "out of thin air" to bail out losers. (Again Rasmussen = Federal Reserve)

What is Rasmussen really trying to measure here? Perhaps they want to take us away from more important things we could be doing for Paul.

In any case, I can't wait for Iowa and NH. That will be a real "market" unless that is rigged too.

[JohnnyWrath]

blimp

[jdmetz]

I'm definitely suspicious. It will reserve $7 if you sell at 30, but only reserve $3 if you buy at 30. There would have needed to be a lot of people selling hiim off between 12:15 and 12:30 to bring him down from the 30's to the 8-9 region. Unfortunately, the Time & Sales data won't display back past 12:35pm for me.

[mbrebstock]

if you already have the stocks you do not have to have the 7 dollars to sell it. you just can do it. and its really not that big risk at this moment to sell ron paul at 30 (in 2 weeks this may be different)

[mbrebstock]

perhaps there are some new people who wanna join?

[MrOblivious]

This is actually pretty cool. Thanks for the link.

[jufreese]

they have the exact same thing at www.realclearpolitics.com under fantasy '08

[promagma]

You start with $10,000 can only buy $499 worth at a time. So don't just buy once, keep on placing orders for 400 until you are out of money.

[Mastiff]

I'm an idiot I guess, how does this thing work? I went in and said I'd buy 499 contracts at 50% and I still have no positions. Shouldn't it go through right away? It's been like 15 minutes.

[mbrebstock]

after all this fox trouble today - you should perhaps play a little - send ron paul to the top :)

after iowa the shares will explode

[mbrebstock]

somethings going on. someone is buying. great!

[mbrebstock]

come on buy you free ron paul shares tonight. and be rich tomorrow !!

:)