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RonPaulalways
12-27-2007, 09:11 AM
http://kineticreaction.blogspot.com/2007/12/explaining-ron-pauls-foreign-policy.html

It gets special points for nerdiness but I think it's a good analogy

Dsteenbock
12-29-2007, 07:39 AM
Yes, It's a great analogy. I forwarded It to several of my Star Trek fan friends :)

unconsious767
12-29-2007, 07:53 AM
I've always thought Trek was a bit communist, for example - Spock: "each according to his gifts" sounds a lot like "each according to his ability" -- also, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one"

This is from the original characters, maybe the other incarnations aren't so blatant.

chipvogel
12-29-2007, 08:44 AM
I've always thought Trek was a bit communist, for example - Spock: "each according to his gifts" sounds a lot like "each according to his ability" -- also, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one"

This is from the original characters, maybe the other incarnations aren't so blatant.

I didn't ever get the impression that Star Trek was communist. Star Trek had replicators, so basically every thing you need to live could be easily manufactured. Once all the basic needs to survive are met then you move up the Maslow pyramid to self actualization and thats where the "each according to his gifts" and "each according to his ability" "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one".

Or simply put; people would probably pay more attention to personal development once all basic needs are met.....then again we may just surf for porn all day; wait and see.

Watch "The Omega Glory" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708474/) a horrible episode, but this episode makes it clear that Star Trek did not embrace communism.

Man from La Mancha
12-29-2007, 10:16 AM
http://kineticreaction.blogspot.com/2007/12/explaining-ron-pauls-foreign-policy.html

It gets special points for nerdiness but I think it's a good analogy
I just pulled up from my data base the whole 2 hr episode about altering the time spectrum and can you please tell me in detail how how this has anything to do with Ron?

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kiss
12-29-2007, 11:51 AM
I didn't ever get the impression that Star Trek was communist.
In Star Trek they abandoned money, just like Pol Pot did.

Perry
12-29-2007, 12:05 PM
I can't believe they couldn't find a place to fit the word "collective" in there even once.:mad:

unconsious767
12-29-2007, 06:25 PM
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7754/federationrb1.gif
United Federation of Planets

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5733/unlogohe3.gif
United Nations


Do these symbols look similar?> :p

Scott Wilson
12-29-2007, 09:03 PM
The Federation, bland ship, same uniforms, no-one really owned any private property, and most importantly no promotion of individualism.

Star Trek was utopian socialism 101 for the youth.

chipvogel
12-30-2007, 12:16 AM
I had no idea that others see Star Trek as promoting socialism or communism. I feel obligated to defend Gene Roddenberry's view of the future, it had nothing to do with socialism or communism and championed the individual.

My view of Star Trek is that someday technology will become so advanced that we'll all be as rich as Bill Gates. When technology gets to the point where we can all easily produce everything we need and want it will have a dramatic impact on society. If everything you own would be as simple to reproduce as pushing a button then ownership of property would be analogous to owning the air we breathe. Property rights would still exist but they would not carry the same importance they do now. Its a long way off, and not likely to happen in my lifetime.

I think technology has played a critical roll in the advancement of freedom and the Internet is one obvious example. Historically I believe that advancements in technology also helped with the abolishment of slavery and the emancipation of women.

If you think illegal immigration is bad now, just wait until teleportors become a reality. International borders will become so much nonsense at this point. Technology will eventually force us into one world if we like it or not.

anyway...I know I'm a wing-nut; even in this group, so I'm off to start the Libertarian/Technocratic party which will be popular and understood in the 23rd century.

be good

RonPaulalways
12-30-2007, 03:15 AM
I just pulled up from my data base the whole 2 hr episode about altering the time spectrum and can you please tell me in detail how how this has anything to do with Ron?


Nothing in particular has any thing to do with Ron, but the attitude of the time-altering antagonist is similar to the attitude of the proponents of foreign interventionist, in refusing to see that intervening in the affairs of others has unforseen consequences that make the situation worse.

Man from La Mancha
12-30-2007, 03:54 AM
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7754/federationrb1.gif
United Federation of Planets

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5733/unlogohe3.gif
United Nations


Do these symbols look similar?> :pActually I view the Federation as the same as the original US, a loose federation of states that are independent and just joined together for protection, not a central ruling government.
If one wants to dig deep into star trek there some weird things.

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user
12-30-2007, 03:58 AM
Star Trek doesn't promote socialism. Like the last poster said, there are a lot of things to look at if you dig deep.