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rational thinker
12-27-2007, 02:15 AM
http://www.petitiononline.com/boycottd/petition.html

Frankly, I don't trust the upcoming primary elections and if Diebold machines are used, I don't think it would matter whether or not Ron will win as the votes will just be changed and Ron will be cheated out of the win.

According to Shink:


What good is boycotting if you don't even know who to boycott? DIEBOLD CHANGED ITS NAME TO PREMIER ELECTION SOLUTIONS. http://www.premierelections.com/default.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Election_Solutions



I don't think you have to worry about too many Diebold machines. They tried to slip through the cracks, changing their name to dodge public scrutiny. If you want to fight these unfair, election-rigging machines, you had better know this info.

rational thinker
12-27-2007, 02:20 AM
On July 31, 2002, Cathy Cox, Georgia's Secretary of State, signed a contract with Diebold, allowing the firm to distribute electronic voting machines throughout the state, design the ballots, and then monitor the election, without any state oversight.

In August 2003, Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold, announced that he had been a top fund-raiser for President George W. Bush and had sent a get-out-the-funds letter to 100 wealthy and politically inclined friends in the Republican Party, to be held at his home in a suburb of Columbus, Ohio. When assailed by critics for the conflict of interest, he pointed out that the company's election machines division is run out of Texas by a registered Democrat. Nonetheless, he vowed to lower his political profile lest his personal actions harm the company.

In December 2005, O'Dell resigned following reports that the company was facing securities fraud litigation surrounding charges of insider trading.

In March 2007, it was reported by the Associated Press that Diebold was considering divesting itself of its voting machine subsidiary because it was "widely seen as tarnishing the company's reputation".

In August 2007, Wikipedia Scanner found that edits via the company's IP addresses occurred to Diebold's Wikipedia article, removing criticisms of the company's products, references to its CEO's fund-raising for President Bush and other negative criticism from the Wikipedia page about the company in November 2005.

Oliver
12-27-2007, 02:40 AM
*boycotted* :)

BuddyRey
12-27-2007, 02:56 AM
Bump!

rational thinker
12-27-2007, 03:30 AM
Thanks. Blimp!

rational thinker
12-27-2007, 06:02 PM
Bump!

LynnB
12-27-2007, 08:43 PM
California's Sec.'y of State, Debra Bowen, seems to be savvy about the voting fraud--
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20071227-9999-1m27county.html
"In August, Bowen severely restricted the use of touch-screen voting machines in San Diego and 19 other counties, citing an independent review that found machines made by three manufacturers could be easily manipulated." One of them is /surprise!/ Ohio-based Premier Election Systems, formerly Diebold Election Systems.
She's getting grilled for balking at using these machines... I guess because it's too much work to hand count!
"The state became the epicenter in the debate over electronic-voting machines in July when a report by UC Berkeley researchers showed that machines from three manufacturers – Diebold, Hart InterCivic and Sequoia Voting Systems – could be manipulated. In some cases, it could be done using ordinary office tools and limited computer knowledge.

A week later, Bowen decertified all three machines, then recertified them with certain restrictions. "

If you scroll down, be sure to read an annotated reply by "Fezzy"

Maybe Georgia needs to be alerted, or at least Georgia voters..

jd603
12-27-2007, 08:50 PM
Diebold changed their name and spun it off as a subsidiary. You're boycotting the wrong Corporation (sort of, they spun it off on purpose to confuse people).

"The company said that after failing to find a buyer for its voting machine business, it was changing the name of the division to Premier Election Solutions Inc (or PESI) and was giving it more "independence" by establishing a separate board of directors to run it."

I suspect same vote tampering will continue under this new name, people need to be aware of the new name so when they vote on the machines that have a new name they can be recognized as Diebold.


Edit: http://www.premierelections.com/
Edit2: http://www.premierelections.com/newsroom/premier81607.htm


http://www.petitiononline.com/boycottd/petition.html

Frankly, I don't trust the upcoming primary elections and if Diebold machines are used, I don't think it would matter whether or not Ron will win as the votes will just be changed and Ron will be cheated out of the win.

Cinci4RP
12-27-2007, 09:17 PM
singed / bump

rational thinker
12-28-2007, 12:59 AM
Thanks guys.

Shink
12-28-2007, 01:30 AM
http://www.petitiononline.com/boycottd/petition.html

Frankly, I don't trust the upcoming primary elections and if Diebold machines are used, I don't think it would matter whether or not Ron will win as the votes will just be changed and Ron will be cheated out of the win.

What good is boycotting if you don't even know who to boycott? DIEBOLD CHANGED ITS NAME TO PREMIER ELECTION SOLUTIONS. http://www.premierelections.com/default.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Election_Solutions



I don't think you have to worry about too many Diebold machines. They tried to slip through the cracks, changing their name to dodge public scrutiny. If you want to fight these unfair, election-rigging machines, you had better know this info.

Jojo
12-28-2007, 01:52 AM
What good is boycotting if you don't even know who to boycott? DIEBOLD CHANGED ITS NAME TO PREMIER ELECTION SOLUTIONS.

Does anyone else think that is a really strange, telling name??? PREMIER ELECTION SOLUTIONS???? To me it's so in your face it's creepy.

Paulbot_9876
12-28-2007, 02:00 AM
Does anyone else think that is a really strange, telling name??? PREMIER ELECTION SOLUTIONS???? To me it's so in your face it's creepy.


if i am not mistaken,under constitution they are illegal to use.... all votes must be counted in the open... votes are counted in the secretcy within a computer and not in the open....we cant see the comp tally up the votes= illegal as hell.....

Paulbot_9876
12-28-2007, 02:10 AM
do we get a paper ballot????? we should get 2 reciepts...one to keep and one to drop off in a box....

we should be finding answers now before later on what method is being used to tally the votes before it's to late.... this should be a big concern to us all here.....people act like no big deal....well it is and we need answers damn it..... drop the ball on this and we are f!@#ed....

Pharoah
12-28-2007, 02:20 AM
We need to stop ALL electronic voting - not just Diebold / PES. The reason being that if you read up on the other companies you'll find that they were all created by the same group of people.

Shink
12-28-2007, 11:58 AM
Does anyone else think that is a really strange, telling name??? PREMIER ELECTION SOLUTIONS???? To me it's so in your face it's creepy.

Yep. Sounds like they've got the Solution to the elites' Ron Paul Problem.

rational thinker
12-28-2007, 07:55 PM
Sounds Orwellian to me.