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shasshas
12-26-2007, 06:32 PM
There is sooo much suspicion of the voting system in America this year.

It's no different to voting under a dictatorship in the philippines, nicaragua, cuba, ethiopia, chad, laos, burma, china or any other third world sub-prime bogus democracy.

I am not sure we will get through without major outbreaks of physical violence.

Remember that in the Vietnam war, during one of the key demonstrations 4 people were killed by national guardsmen :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/Kent_State_massacre.jpg

garrettwombat
12-26-2007, 06:36 PM
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable."
-John F. Kennedy

itsnobody
12-26-2007, 06:44 PM
These conspiracists kill me, they've already set themselves up for defeat

garrettwombat
12-26-2007, 06:49 PM
nvm, not worth it.

Conza88
12-26-2007, 09:12 PM
These conspiracists kill me, they've already set themselves up for defeat

You mean.. the real culprits (conspirators - rigging the election) or those that are conspiracists, for thinking they will...?

If its the latter, you live in fantasy land.

Constitutionally Speaking
12-26-2007, 10:11 PM
The allegation that Bush fixed the elections is beyond ludicrous. It is aimed at undermining our democracy, by destroying the very foundation it is built on - the confidence of the citizenry. Gore lost the election and he did indeed try to steal it, but thank God he failed in his assault on our electoral process and indeed the Constitution itself.

Pharoah
12-27-2007, 03:39 AM
^^ If you really believe that, Diebold has an election they want to sell you. Or could it be that you are the last remaining Bush supporter?

Constitutionally Speaking
12-28-2007, 06:42 AM
^^ If you really believe that, Diebold has an election they want to sell you. Or could it be that you are the last remaining Bush supporter?


It doesn't MATTER who I support. I would have supported Gore had the situations been reversed. The fact is that the allegations that Bush stole the elections are PURE baloney. To allege that, based on the complete lack of legitimate evidence, does NOTHING other than undermine our democracy.

Changing the rules after the game is over is CHEATING. That is what Gore tried to do.

Selectively counting ONLY those districts likely to help you is CHEATING.

Disallowing Military votes was dishonorable and especially given the fact that your main argument was "count all the votes" because you couldn't get close to enough votes unless you allowed spoiled ballots. ( A large portion of the military votes NEVER WERE included in the totals).

Diebold had NOTHING to do with the outcomes of the 2000 election. It was PAPER ballots that caused the problem.

Voter purge???? The sad fact of the matter is that GORE benefited from it, not Bush. The problem mainly was that people who were not eligible to vote voted while legitimate voters were disqualified.

Care to take a look at the demographics and statistical voting patterns of those groups who were eligible but not allowed to vote and compare them to those who voted but shouldn't have???? - I'll clue you in, Gore is lucky they didn't count them.

Not one charge of intimidation had ANY basis in fact and consequently not ONE found legitimacy in court.

american.swan
12-28-2007, 06:54 AM
It doesn't MATTER who I support. I would have supported Gore had the situations been reversed. The fact is that the allegations that Bush stole the elections are PURE baloney. To allege that, based on the complete lack of legitimate evidence, does NOTHING other than undermine our democracy.

Changing the rules after the game is over is CHEATING. That is what Gore tried to do.

Selectively counting ONLY those districts likely to help you is CHEATING.

Disallowing Military votes was dishonorable and especially given the fact that your main argument was "count all the votes" because you couldn't get close to enough votes unless you allowed spoiled ballots. ( A large portion of the military votes NEVER WERE included in the totals).

Diebold had NOTHING to do with the outcomes of the 2000 election. It was PAPER ballots that caused the problem.

Voter purge???? The sad fact of the matter is that GORE benefited from it, not Bush. The problem mainly was that people who were not eligible to vote voted while legitimate voters were disqualified.

Care to take a look at the demographics and statistical voting patterns of those groups who were eligible but not allowed to vote and compare them to those who voted but shouldn't have???? - I'll clue you in, Gore is lucky they didn't count them.

Not one charge of intimidation had ANY basis in fact and consequently not ONE found legitimacy in court.

I have read many articles full of reliable facts by Greg Palast on this and I can say Bush cheated.

Constitutionally Speaking
12-28-2007, 07:27 AM
I have read many articles full of reliable facts by Greg Palast on this and I can say Bush cheated.


Believing Greg Palast was your first mistake.

I have read him and let's just say he has a dog in the hunt (a socialist dog). If you wish though, bring his "facts" I do believe I have seen them all and found them wanting.