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JAHOGS
12-26-2007, 09:53 AM
http://www.wgiram.com/main.html

There is a guy filling in for Glen Beck and is about to talk about why Ron Paul scares him if he is president. He is taking a lot of phone calls also.

1-888-727-BECK

allyinoh
12-26-2007, 09:57 AM
Yeah let's call him and let him know we're scared too...

Scared that Ron Paul wants to end the Iraq War and bring our troops home, scared that he wants to decrease the size of government, scared that the wants to bring about sound money, and scared that he follows that thing called the... ugh.. Constitution.

How scary is that? :rolleyes:

JAHOGS
12-26-2007, 09:58 AM
LOL, I would really like to hear someone get on the air with this guy. Bout to talk about his nightmares after the break

allyinoh
12-26-2007, 10:00 AM
If I could get through, I would and I would say those things I said and make that guy look like an ass. lol

MooCowzRock
12-26-2007, 10:02 AM
PLEASE be respectful!!!

If you go on insulting them, or being an asshole, or being threatening, than your not exactly helping in prove them wrong. You're just proving them right.

I'm just saying, for all those that decide to call. Be respectful, and be calm. Remember who you're representing.

jaumen
12-26-2007, 10:04 AM
You know what? I'm GLAD he's scared. There are some people within the establishment that SHOULD be.

allyinoh
12-26-2007, 10:06 AM
PLEASE be respectful!!!

If you go on insulting them, or being an asshole, or being threatening, than your not exactly helping in prove them wrong. You're just proving them right.

I'm just saying, for all those that decide to call. Be respectful, and be calm. Remember who you're representing.

I'm not talking about insulting them or being a jerk, hell, I'm not even calling.

I'm just pointing out how stupid it is that he says he's "scared" when you look at what Ron Paul represents, it makes him look like an idiot.

JAHOGS
12-26-2007, 10:08 AM
on now

Real_CaGeD
12-26-2007, 10:09 AM
Rank and file this ,!,, <~~~~~The Finger

aspiringconstitutionalist
12-26-2007, 10:09 AM
PLEASE be respectful!!!

If you go on insulting them, or being an asshole, or being threatening, than your not exactly helping in prove them wrong. You're just proving them right.

I'm just saying, for all those that decide to call. Be respectful, and be calm. Remember who you're representing.

+1

qwerty
12-26-2007, 10:10 AM
Call!!!

rfbz
12-26-2007, 10:12 AM
he's being pretty positive so far

JAHOGS
12-26-2007, 10:14 AM
yes he is
5+ Million Americans that would vote for him just based on the IRS issue. WOW!!!

ChooseLiberty
12-26-2007, 10:15 AM
Ask him if he's scared of Thomas Jefferson.

RPinSEAZ
12-26-2007, 10:15 AM
He implied that he was scared of us. He said something like his "email ears" are burning.

RPinSEAZ
12-26-2007, 10:16 AM
Downsizing America from world superpower status is "scary" according to him.

Real_CaGeD
12-26-2007, 10:18 AM
He sounds like a "trojan horse" Paulite to me.

JAHOGS
12-26-2007, 10:18 AM
This guy is scared of RP? My god he sounds like he loves him the way he is talking!

RPinSEAZ
12-26-2007, 10:19 AM
Curiouser and curiouser.

Question_Authority
12-26-2007, 10:19 AM
yeah, he even said the foreign policy argument is a "legitimate argument" and "is Ron Paul on to something" in reference to whether we need to be a World Superpower.

Hmmm....interesting

qwerty
12-26-2007, 10:20 AM
This guy is scared of RP? My god he sounds like he loves him the way he is talking!

:D

MRoCkEd
12-26-2007, 10:21 AM
what channel is this on?

JAHOGS
12-26-2007, 10:21 AM
He's (Kevin Wall) catching on, I'm telling ya!

RPinSEAZ
12-26-2007, 10:21 AM
radio

tsetsefly
12-26-2007, 10:21 AM
we are abandoning freedom around the world? lol, where is that in the constitution, world freedom fighters?

JAHOGS
12-26-2007, 10:21 AM
http://www.wgiram.com/main.html

Click on the listen live link.

rfbz
12-26-2007, 10:22 AM
this is good. even if he doesn't agree with everything RP proposes, this is opening up a necessary dialog to the mainstream.

JPFromTally
12-26-2007, 10:23 AM
The question has to be asked, "How do you pay for a $1 trillion war without raising taxes? And what does that do to the price of milk/gas/etc.?"

Mithridates
12-26-2007, 10:24 AM
Let's send him some really nice emails! Like this:

"Merry Christmas and thank you for talking about our next president Ron Paul.

Love,

The Ron Paul grassroots campaign."

Question_Authority
12-26-2007, 10:24 AM
What he does not understand is that we CAN be a "superpower" militarily, even if we bring them all home. Look at China. Are they considered vulnerable militarily? No, of course not. In fact, no one in their right mind would even DARE attack China. But they don't have military bases all over the world, do they? Of course not.

So why do we need 750 bases to protect our citizens? WE DON'T ! In fact, we are MORE vulnerable with the military stretched beyond its means....plus we will not be able to afford it and it will all come tumbling down eventually.

If anyone gets through and not sure what to say, please ask him this....I am trying but it is busy busy busy.

leipo
12-26-2007, 10:25 AM
Due to licensing restrictions, we are not able to allow access to the content you are requesting from outside the United States.

=(

JAHOGS
12-26-2007, 10:26 AM
He wants to debate this issue for the next 35 minutes.

Ron LOL
12-26-2007, 10:27 AM
The question has to be asked, "How do you pay for a $1 trillion war without raising taxes? And what does that do to the price of milk/gas/etc.?"

Just as an aside, I thought I'd really been paying a lot more for milk in the past few months or so but never bothered to investigate...saw some numbers yesterday, and milk prices are up 23% over last year!!

tsopranos
12-26-2007, 10:30 AM
blimp

...listening now.

Question_Authority
12-26-2007, 10:30 AM
What the hell is this caller? What an idiot. Stupid call, not even about Paul at all. Now a commercial again?

mconder
12-26-2007, 10:31 AM
they're talking about Ron Paul and they have a Canadian Huckabee caller on? How does this further the discussion as to the merits of war and nation building?

Seriously pissing me off. Please call in!

JAHOGS
12-26-2007, 10:31 AM
Great time for a commercial. He will clear the lines for RP callers. And get back to topic he wants to talk about.

Normally it is the other way for us. Clear the line that is full of RP callers and get other people on to talk. Now it's dump all the other callers and get all the RP callers on.

qwerty
12-26-2007, 10:31 AM
Let's send him some really nice emails! Like this:

"Merry Christmas and thank you for talking about our next president Ron Paul.

Love,

The Ron Paul grassroots campaign."

AGREE!!!

Ron LOL
12-26-2007, 10:33 AM
I couldn't get their "listen live" link to play nice with my Mac, but this link works fine in VLC: mms://a565.l3079912564.c30799.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/565/30799/v0001/reflector:12564?auth=caEdXaKabbHafdMa8d_b0bgacdkcQ cxbScG-bhCOh1-4q-UL3V1_4nqGInm4FBpkBrys&aifp=1234&CPROG=SIMULCAST&MARKET=MANCHESTER-NH&MNM=1&NG_FORMAT=newstalk&NG_ID=WGIR610AM&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&RVN_TZ=-5&SERVER_NAME=wwwwgiramcom&SITE_ID=1149&STATION_ID=WGIR-AM

tsopranos
12-26-2007, 10:33 AM
What he does not understand is that we CAN be a "superpower" militarily, even if we bring them all home. Look at China. Are they considered vulnerable militarily? No, of course not. In fact, no one in their right mind would even DARE attack China. But they don't have military bases all over the world, do they? Of course not.

So why do we need 750 bases to protect our citizens? WE DON'T ! In fact, we are MORE vulnerable with the military stretched beyond its means....plus we will not be able to afford it and it will all come tumbling down eventually.

If anyone gets through and not sure what to say, please ask him this....I am trying but it is busy busy busy.

+1

dawnbt
12-26-2007, 10:35 AM
LOL! He's getting a ton of email! I'll bet he is!

Ron LOL
12-26-2007, 10:38 AM
I was worried he'd only play the "absolutely" part of the Israel clip, but he played it all. I'm curious to see how he'll rebut the complete position...

dawnbt
12-26-2007, 10:40 AM
Someone please call in and call him out on Israel!

Question_Authority
12-26-2007, 10:41 AM
Where would we put the troops if we brought them home? Hmmm...maybe we could build military bases here...which would create economic booms where they are built. Instead of creating economic booms in all the other countries. Hellllooooo?????

Eliminate foreign aid??? We are BORROWING money from countries every day!!!!!!!! How can you give aid to people when you are borrowing it from others??

Melissa
12-26-2007, 10:41 AM
i will never understand the simple argument he used about where will we put the soldiers -he said we closed down bases here so how could we do it-well I am not really great on money but if we are not paying for bases overseas couldn't some of that money be used to open up some here in the US again

mconder
12-26-2007, 10:41 AM
Great. Now they are letting Paul supporters on, but only the ones that sound like redneck hicks.

Real_CaGeD
12-26-2007, 10:44 AM
I feel we are beginning to see the sure signs the MSM have seen the writing on the wall.

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-26-2007, 10:45 AM
Is the host worried about the turrurrists or is he worried about upsetting the status quo economic structure of having 500,000 welfare cases have to find honest work?

Which is it?

mconder
12-26-2007, 10:46 AM
Would the U.S. more likely be attacked with 700 thousands troops spread out all over the world, or with 700 thousand living within out boarders. Not to mention, our best equipment is over there. China could completely wipe out the U.S. in a week by flooding the market with our dollars and cutting off trade relations. We don't seem to care a lot about that?

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-26-2007, 10:47 AM
The defenders of the status quo-state will change their reasons for believing in the mega-state from minute to minute.

RPinSEAZ
12-26-2007, 10:49 AM
Haha, China a superpower? Host says no.

Question_Authority
12-26-2007, 10:49 AM
Yeah! Someone is asking about China! YEAH!

Question_Authority
12-26-2007, 10:50 AM
Oh not following through to make the point though. Ask who would attack China? When have they been attacked?

schmeisser
12-26-2007, 10:50 AM
Regarding bases, we have plenty of capacity at our current bases. We could also re-open some recently closed bases here. Not an issue at all.

Question_Authority
12-26-2007, 10:50 AM
If the USS Cole had not been there, they would not have been attacked!

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-26-2007, 10:51 AM
Bin Laden said they attacked the Cole because of the bases in Saudi Arabia!!!

Real_CaGeD
12-26-2007, 10:51 AM
Bin Laden said they attacked the Cole because of the bases in Saudi Arabia!!!

Yes.

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-26-2007, 10:51 AM
10 years after the beseigement of Iraq!

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-26-2007, 10:52 AM
Our callers freezed. I do the same thing when nervous on the radio.

Question_Authority
12-26-2007, 10:52 AM
He asked How did the USS Cole adversely impact the yemen people? Well, Kevin, how would it adversely impact the US to have...say, a Chinese ship parked off our shores?

RPinSEAZ
12-26-2007, 10:54 AM
The host's arguments aren't very well structured. Not much actual discussion is happening because he has no facts to back up his assertions so he doesn't want to argue for or against anything.

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-26-2007, 10:54 AM
You mean military ship of course. We have lots of Chinese ships packed with goodies on our shores and nobody wants to blow them up.

Question_Authority
12-26-2007, 10:54 AM
Kevin said China was not a super power because they do not spend as much as we do. DUUUUHHHHHHH! We are spending ourselves into oblivion. The question is not how much does a country spend but HOW SAFE ARE THEIR PEOPLE FROM ATTACK??? Jesus, his ignorance is astounding.

Question_Authority
12-26-2007, 10:55 AM
You mean military ship of course. We have lots of Chinese ships packed with goodies on our shores and nobody wants to blow them up.


hahahah. Touche.

mconder
12-26-2007, 10:55 AM
Another caller on who couldn't answer why the Arabs were pissed at us in 2000 with the U.S.S. Cole was attacked. If your going to call, know how to answer the question...PLEASE!!!

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-26-2007, 10:56 AM
We've been in Iraq for 17 years.

Yom
12-26-2007, 10:56 AM
Call in and explain to help the RP supporter speaking now. He doesn't know why the Cole was bombed, remind him that the Arab world (and Iran) in general was already long angry at the U.S. for its activities in past decades. Especially for supporting Israel militarily and financially since the Six day war (1967), and various other activities, like the removal of power of Mohammed Mosaddeq from power in 1953 to install the Shah, bombing of Iraq since 1991, interference in Lebanon in the 1980s. Funding both sides in the Iraq-Iran war, etc.

mconder
12-26-2007, 10:57 AM
We've been involved in the middle east since the 50's when we helped BP secure oil in Iran.

Question_Authority
12-26-2007, 10:57 AM
Saying it is preposterous that "we are at fault" and "we are provoking Al Qaeda". "The USS Cole was only re-fueling". UGH

RPinSEAZ
12-26-2007, 10:59 AM
Good final caller whoever that was.

kushaze
12-26-2007, 10:59 AM
At least the last guy had an intelligent answer

hamilton1049
12-26-2007, 10:59 AM
We need an "emergency response team" of hand picked callers who can think on their feet.

Workguy23
12-26-2007, 10:59 AM
You mean military ship of course. We have lots of Chinese ships packed with goodies on our shores and nobody wants to blow them up.

yeah, I'd hate for all that lead paint to end up in the water off our shores...:rolleyes:

Question_Authority
12-26-2007, 11:00 AM
This guy, although a dolt, was at least fair and courteous to the callers and open to debate. Gotta give him that.

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-26-2007, 11:00 AM
Poor responses from us RPers, but I've done worse when surprised by the host's dis-connected questions to me on a radio call in.

JPFromTally
12-26-2007, 11:00 AM
We're fighting ignorance...

weagle
12-26-2007, 11:00 AM
What did the last caller say, I had to turn it down!

tsopranos
12-26-2007, 11:00 AM
Good final caller whoever that was.

Yeah, he conducted himself well. The host said he would give him the last word though, and then he went on a little rant and ended the show. Anyone else notice that?

RPinSEAZ
12-26-2007, 11:00 AM
Why is it so difficult to fathom that the "Arab Street" doesn't like the US funding their enemies and propping up oppressive dictatorships that kill their fathers and brothers.

Henry
12-26-2007, 11:01 AM
I think he warrents a "thank you" for objectivity!!!:):)

Ron LOL
12-26-2007, 11:01 AM
I definitely plan to talk to this goofball tomorrow or Friday.

Henry
12-26-2007, 11:04 AM
I definitely plan to talk to this goofball tomorrow or Friday.

He might have been a "goofball" on a couple of issues, but at leat he cut us a even break and deserves a "thank you" for being objective. We can make him come around!!:D

Question_Authority
12-26-2007, 11:06 AM
I definitely plan to talk to this goofball tomorrow or Friday.


Oh, is he coming back again? Do you think he will take calls on this issue?

Henry
12-26-2007, 11:09 AM
Did anybody catch his email address? I plan on emailing him and mention my points of contention with him, and also add that his fairness is both refreshing and objective.!!:)

Ron LOL
12-26-2007, 11:10 AM
He might have been a "goofball" on a couple of issues, but at leat he cut us a even break and deserves a "thank you" for being objective. We can make him come around!!:D

I want to press (Hold It!*) him on a couple of things...

First, foreign aid: we don't have anything to give!! The US giving out foreign aid is like being in massive credit card debt and buying crap for your friends instead of paying down what you owe.

Second, troops coming home: what do we actually lose by bringing home our troops? No, seriously, what? Between our submarines and our hypersonic research programs, we can apply force just about anywhere, just about instantly, with precision that would make IEEE 754 blush.

Lastly, the Israel issue: who would actually ever even consider touching them in a truly threatening way? They have nukes. Lots of nukes.

If there's still time, it's maybe worth discussing our meddling in the middle east...but I doubt he'd be willing to truly listen on that subject.

*I'll die if anybody gets that.

Ron LOL
12-26-2007, 11:11 AM
Did anybody catch his email address? I plan on emailing him and mention my points of contention with him, and also add that his fairness is both refreshing and objective.!!:)

I think it was kevinwallradio [ A T ] yahoo { D O T } com

Henry
12-26-2007, 11:14 AM
I think it was kevinwallradio [ A T ] yahoo { D O T } com

Thank you.:)

Vendico
12-26-2007, 11:15 AM
I want to press (Hold It!*) him on a couple of things...

First, foreign aid: we don't have anything to give!! The US giving out foreign aid is like being in massive credit card debt and buying crap for your friends instead of paying down what you owe.

Second, troops coming home: what do we actually lose by bringing home our troops? No, seriously, what? Between our submarines and our hypersonic research programs, we can apply force just about anywhere, just about instantly, with precision that would make IEEE 754 blush.

Lastly, the Israel issue: who would actually ever even consider touching them in a truly threatening way? They have nukes. Lots of nukes.



QFT

austin4paul
12-26-2007, 11:38 AM
I think he warrents a "thank you" for objectivity!!!:):)

Agreed. If someone has an e-mail link, please post it here. I'd like to let him know that the USS Cole was bound for the Persian Gulf to help maintain the naval quarantine of Iraq. So, to deny that American policies had anything to do with the ship being attacked is a bit naive.

It took me a little while to research that, but frankly I don't think it should be the job of the American taxpayer to HAVE to research things like this -- it should be the job of our elected officials to investigate and report back to the American taxpayer. Similarly, it should be the job of our media to do their own independent investigative work and report to their subscribers/viewers.

Sadly -- and one of the driving factors of the Ron Paul Revolution -- neither our congressional representatives or the mainstream media is doing their job. The "message" that the American taxpayer receives is filtered and manipulated by the neo-con elite, too often without any regard to the truth. The media - who should be our independent watchdogs - instead spin the "message" to lend credibility to the lies and deceit of their elite friends, and assist by spreading fear amongst the public, making it easier for the neo-cons to strip away the remaining liberty in our country. This is why Ron Paul's supporters turn to the internet for their news rather than accept the spoon-fed BS dished out by the mainstream media.

Ron Paul has his own "message" -- and it's simple -- restore truth and honesty to politics and return the power (and our hard-earned money) to the people, so that we can have more say in how that money is spent by dealing with this at local and State levels. Most of our politicians (and a lot of American taxpayers) today seem to have forgotten that the taxpayer is also part of the system of checks and balances since we have the power to vote. I, like so many other Ron Paul supporters I've talked to, have abstained from voting in the past, giving up that power. Dr. Paul cured my apathy and restored the voice that I'd almost forgotten that our founding fathers gave me.

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-26-2007, 11:56 AM
Second, troops coming home: what do we actually lose by bringing home our troops?

We and RP really need to address this question much better. What really SCARES people is the disruption to the status-quo economic structure. Many people in many industries are making big money off of the status quo. They don't want to have to learn to serve their fellow men in new ways. They want to keep doing exactly what they're doing now whether its working for military contractors or the imperial legions directly.

Or, if they're working in some "private" industry in the U.S., they don't want competition from 500,000 new competitors. This is the MAIN reason people really hate illegal aliens--not because their racist bigots, but because they hate the free competitive marketplace.

We need to explain that its this addiction to the government command economic system that is even more dangerous than breaking the addiction. Each infusion of phony money to prop up these government projects has less effect than the previous ones, just as an alcoholic requires more booze to get blitzed as he becomes more and more addicted.

Yes, RP's program will subject Americans to competition that we're not used to. But, the flip side is that we will keep all of our earnings, and have less restrictions and regulations on our honest business activity. And we will all be wealthier as consumers getting much more value for far less prices.

drexhex
12-26-2007, 11:58 AM
I want to press (Hold It!*)

*I'll die if anybody gets that.

Great post, and I got it. PW:AA ;)

Henry
12-26-2007, 12:08 PM
We and RP really need to address this question much better. What really SCARES people is the disruption to the status-quo economic structure. Many people in many industries are making big money off of the status quo. They don't want to have to learn to serve their fellow men in new ways. They want to keep doing exactly what they're doing now whether its working for military contractors or the imperial legions directly.

Or, if they're working in some "private" industry in the U.S., they don't want competition from 500,000 new competitors. This is the MAIN reason people really hate illegal aliens--not because their racist bigots, but because they hate the free competitive marketplace.

We need to explain that its this addiction to the government command economic system that is even more dangerous than breaking the addiction. Each infusion of phony money to prop up these government projects has less effect than the previous ones, just as an alcoholic requires more booze to get blitzed as he becomes more and more addicted.

Yes, RP's program will subject Americans to competition that we're not used to. But, the flip side is that we will keep all of our earnings, and have less restrictions and regulations on our honest business activity. And we will all be wealthier as consumers getting much more value for far less prices.

Just a thought. Why not open some of the bases that were closed in our country? Those bases were a an economical boost to those communities prior to closure.

Wolfgang Bohringer
12-26-2007, 12:18 PM
No, the problem is government commanding the spending.

The solution is letting us hire these new workers with the new money that we get to keep, not putting them on the dole again doing the same things in government bases that the people in the economy don't want them doing.

The old bases should be turned over to us--the people--to make actual economic use of.

austin4paul
12-26-2007, 03:15 PM
Great post, and I got it. PW:AA ;)

Crap, I hope he doesn't actually die...not before the election anyway.

Voluntaryist
12-26-2007, 03:26 PM
If the USS Cole had not been there, they would not have been attacked!

Oh, snap! :cool: