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Paulite
12-25-2007, 05:29 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MH9oTdw98T4
thats part 1 part 2 and the rest coming up thanxs to snicker

Ixzion
12-25-2007, 05:42 PM
Thanks for the link!

MadOdorMachine
12-25-2007, 06:02 PM
Wow. The way that guy answered the last question made Ron Paul look like a complete prick. He could have given a number of answers that would have sounded better than that. I get the feeling that lady won't be joining the rEVOLution.

ValidusCustodiae
12-25-2007, 06:03 PM
yeah, the next caller is ME, I'm dying for the next youtube segment =)

RP 247
12-25-2007, 06:38 PM
at the end of the video, what the hell is that lady talking about? :confused:

did she say something about "black nation"?

Airborn
12-25-2007, 06:44 PM
ahh I should have just waited till they were all posted then watched. thx for youtubin this cant wait for part 2, 3

tsetsefly
12-25-2007, 07:41 PM
bump is the other segment up?

unloud
12-25-2007, 07:49 PM
Part 2?

Anthony T
12-25-2007, 07:56 PM
LOL WTF the last caller made no point.... :p

PimpBlimp
12-25-2007, 08:27 PM
LOL WTF the last caller made no point.... :p

I think what she was trying to say is "What will Ron Paul do to help out the poor minority communities."

If she knew anything about the man she would know that ending the war on drugs and returning individual liberties to the people would help out her communities more than any socialist democrat could ever dream of doing.

chupon85
12-25-2007, 08:35 PM
Listening to those callers is really important because we have to be able to understand the point of view potential voters. We can't assume that everyone will understand our positions, a la the false consensus effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_consensus_effect).

The last caller, presumably a black woman, said that she feels, as either a black or a poor person, that Ron Paul does not speak about issues that impact her as an individual. And to a certain extent, that attitude is a big concern. Consider how many of us were "apathetic" about politics, despite the fact that we knew politicians were making decisions of grave importance. Somehow, that affect does not trickle down to the average Joe or Jane and we are left either not caring or voting for the person who promised the most visible change, e.g. welfare programs, medicaid, etc.

Rather than laughing at these people who "don't get it," we should be taking notes! We know that Ron Paul's message can apply to anyone. Therefore, we have to appeal to those people so they understand why it's so important!

For starters, Ron Paul's message is about empowerment. Big government, as evidence in New Orleans and other cities affected by Katrina, has shown that it has no competence in disaster relief. All that money that we give in taxes is filtered through a bureaucracy, and withheld pending "proper" appropriation. In other words, the people who are most in need see none of their money. What we need to emphasize to people like that woman is that Ron Paul's message is about empowering communities and local government, as well as individuals, by cutting taxes and allowing people to keep their hard-earned income, and also keeping federal bureaucracy and restriction out.

Ron Paul has said many times that change will be difficult because our system creates dependence. This is how Big Government stays in power. We need to encourage people and get them excited about Ron Paul's vision: creating a system where you aren't stuck fighting the system.

If we're going to win this election, we have to never forget the inclusive and empowering message of FREEDOM.

ionlyknowy
12-25-2007, 08:43 PM
that last lady is laughable... she was really incoherent.

Plus she was calling the Republican line and then proceeded to say that she was not a Dem or a Rep and that she wasnt for any of them.

Call the indy line then lady... sheesh.

She was clearly very very uneducated on the issues. And maybe in general.
:(

The lady then proceeds to say that no one is paying attention to the black nation. Then she says, "i'm not going to vote for any of them"

Well, I think we found the reason why you are being ignored..lol..

chupon85
12-25-2007, 08:46 PM
We aren't going to win with an elitist attitude. Some of you need to get over yourselves.

ionlyknowy
12-25-2007, 08:52 PM
We aren't going to win with an elitist attitude. Some of you need to get over yourselves.

I think your long post above was more elitist than any other post in this thread... :cool:

chupon85
12-25-2007, 08:55 PM
I think your long post above was more elitist than any other post in this thread... :cool:

Sincerest apologies. Carry on.

hypnagogue
12-25-2007, 09:02 PM
Just finished the first segment. What's the big deal here? The guy has been accurate in describing Paul's positions. Are you upset that he doesn't sound enthused about them?

The only thing he's wrong about is our popularity. If you were some political talking head and you got all your information from polls, would you think any different? He's simply uninformed.

EDIT: Well, heh, no one in this thread has been negative about it yet. I seem to be mixing threads up in my head.

brandon
12-25-2007, 09:25 PM
no part 2 still?

zahirakids
12-25-2007, 09:32 PM
bump

AFM
12-25-2007, 09:37 PM
That lady said "we going to Asia, we going to China"

RP 247
12-25-2007, 09:42 PM
That lady said "we going to Asia, we going to China" she started rambling like Miss Teen South Carolina.

Patronus
12-25-2007, 09:48 PM
There was a Washington Journal a few weeks ago at the start of the Huckaboom when a caller stated, "Clinton, Bush, McCain, Thompson, Romney... these sound presidential. Who could vote for someone named Huckabee???"

I always love the reactions of the hosts. You know they are trying so hard to maintain composure.

tsopranos
12-25-2007, 09:49 PM
That lady said "we going to Asia, we going to China"

...and everywhere, like such as.

user
12-25-2007, 09:57 PM
...and everywhere, like such as.
We need to be focusing on the US Americans.

r3volution
12-25-2007, 10:10 PM
...and everywhere, like such as.

the iraq ?

Knightskye
12-25-2007, 10:15 PM
Make sure you put www in the link, or it might not load the page.

Gimpster
12-25-2007, 10:31 PM
Part 2?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4HTiwG2A6qg

zahirakids
12-25-2007, 10:51 PM
part 3?

sandersondavis
12-25-2007, 11:04 PM
part 3?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_3PIHzTnsF4&feature=user

bgoldwater
12-25-2007, 11:21 PM
part 4?

zahirakids
12-25-2007, 11:32 PM
part 4?

+1

stephens
12-25-2007, 11:35 PM
One you get to part two, there is a gentleman caller that believes the Paul campaign is a "faux campaign", where the money they raise online goes to pay for people to spam/trash comments all over the web. Luckily the journalist did a good job in mentioning that nowhere in the campaigns itemized reports was "spam/trash the web".

Odd that someone would actually think that.

Ron LOL
12-25-2007, 11:38 PM
One you get to part two, there is a gentleman caller that believes the Paul campaign is a "faux campaign", where the money they raise online goes to pay for people to spam/trash comments all over the web. Luckily the journalist did a good job in mentioning that nowhere in the campaigns itemized reports was "spam/trash the web".

Odd that someone would actually think that.

Yeah, well, some people actually believe that George "Bogeyman" Soros is behind our fundraising success...

ionlyknowy
12-25-2007, 11:39 PM
One you get to part two, there is a gentleman caller that believes the Paul campaign is a "faux campaign", where the money they raise online goes to pay for people to spam/trash comments all over the web. Luckily the journalist did a good job in mentioning that nowhere in the campaigns itemized reports was "spam/trash the web".

Odd that someone would actually think that.

if you go to some of the dem. forums, this is what they think... that ron pays people to spam comments and polls.

stephens
12-25-2007, 11:45 PM
Here are all the parts btw:

Part 1:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MH9oTdw98T4
Part 2:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4HTiwG2A6qg
Part 3:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_3PIHzTnsF4
Part 4:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IyaaQ0sn770
Part 5:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vaTQf8Z2HO8
Part 6 (final):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bVh5vdoGWkg

Parts 2 & 3 have some overlap.

AceNZ
12-26-2007, 12:07 AM
I didn't care for this video. The bias in the host and guest's tone and in their choice of specific words and phrases was palpable and distasteful. Ron Paul's message was also distorted many times, sometimes by agreeing with part of what Dr Paul says, but then not explaining why that position makes sense or how it could be reasonably done. To make matters worse, the distortion was done by someone who claimed to understand his position, which gives a casual viewer the feeling that what he says must be true.

Plus, they need to get some sort of call screener at C-SPAN. Some of the questions were very strange.

Minlawc
12-26-2007, 12:31 AM
Plus, they need to get some sort of call screener at C-SPAN. Some of the questions were very strange.

If you ever sit down and watch other C-SPAN callers, you'll see that they really do need a screener.

King Crimson
12-26-2007, 12:41 AM
The reporter guest was terrible. The host basically gave him the job of commenting on Ron Paul's positions and whenever they would show the clip that had a negative impression of Ron Paul or a caller would say something bad the reporter guy wouldn't defend Ron Paul's position at all. Even Ann Coulter defended Ron Paul on the earmarks issue but the reporter basically just said "Some people think he's being hypocritical on this issue" without really delving into the issue. Luckily CSPAN's ratings are rather bad but you could see the perception from some callers that many of Ron Paul's answers on Meet the Press didn't really help him much.

rpfreedom08
12-26-2007, 04:53 AM
yeah, the next caller is ME, I'm dying for the next youtube segment =)


you did great! Very well spoken.

ExpatinArgentina
12-26-2007, 05:17 AM
Thanks for the link!

idiom
12-26-2007, 05:59 AM
The callers need to write down what they want to ask.

"Well I guess there are a number of things the caller talked about..."

pickfair
12-26-2007, 07:31 AM
Thank you for the upload!

Does anyone else notice a pattern here? The callers who say they don't support Ron Paul pretty much ask stupid or aimless questions, while the supporters sound very knowledgeable on these issues. No offense intended - I'm just sayin'... :p

rp4pres
12-26-2007, 07:45 AM
Listening to those callers is really important because we have to be able to understand the point of view potential voters. We can't assume that everyone will understand our positions, a la the false consensus effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_consensus_effect).

The last caller, presumably a black woman, said that she feels, as either a black or a poor person, that Ron Paul does not speak about issues that impact her as an individual. And to a certain extent, that attitude is a big concern. Consider how many of us were "apathetic" about politics, despite the fact that we knew politicians were making decisions of grave importance. Somehow, that affect does not trickle down to the average Joe or Jane and we are left either not caring or voting for the person who promised the most visible change, e.g. welfare programs, medicaid, etc.

Rather than laughing at these people who "don't get it," we should be taking notes! We know that Ron Paul's message can apply to anyone. Therefore, we have to appeal to those people so they understand why it's so important!

For starters, Ron Paul's message is about empowerment. Big government, as evidence in New Orleans and other cities affected by Katrina, has shown that it has no competence in disaster relief. All that money that we give in taxes is filtered through a bureaucracy, and withheld pending "proper" appropriation. In other words, the people who are most in need see none of their money. What we need to emphasize to people like that woman is that Ron Paul's message is about empowering communities and local government, as well as individuals, by cutting taxes and allowing people to keep their hard-earned income, and also keeping federal bureaucracy and restriction out.

Ron Paul has said many times that change will be difficult because our system creates dependence. This is how Big Government stays in power. We need to encourage people and get them excited about Ron Paul's vision: creating a system where you aren't stuck fighting the system.

If we're going to win this election, we have to never forget the inclusive and empowering message of FREEDOM.

You make an excellent point.

I'm glad Ron Paul isn't as arrogant and insensitive as some of the posters in this thread.

Gimpster
12-26-2007, 11:03 AM
That's status quo for CSPAN.

They have the most shiftless callers, ever. It doesn't matter who or what the topic is about.



Plus, they need to get some sort of call screener at C-SPAN. Some of the questions were very strange.