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Anti Federalist
12-24-2007, 04:47 PM
I can't take credit for this idea.

terryp wrote:

Have a Merry Christmas everyone.

I say we start a Christmas card thread for Dr. Paul, his family, staff and supporters. Maybe we could get a gazillion posts and send it to him

So, let me start:

A Merry Christmas Ron, Carol, Rand and all the rest of the Pauls!!

Happy New Year as well.

You and your family have already given all of us the greatest present ever.

Hope for Liberty and Freedom and Peace!

God Bless you all, from my family to yours!

Luft97
12-24-2007, 04:53 PM
A Merry Christmas Ron, Carol, Rand and all the rest of the Pauls!!

Happy New Year as well.

You and your family have already given all of us the greatest present ever.

Hope for Liberty and Freedom and Peace!

God Bless you all, from my family to yours!

Agreed! I would also like to wish a Merry Christmas to all the members of the forum and thank you all for your hard work and donations so that we may return our Republic to the values it was founded on. I would also like to thank Dr. Paul for having the courage to stand up and speak the truth. I never thought I would ever see a man stand up and lead by example the way he does, and to me that is the best Christmas present I could ever get!

Happy Hollidays all!

skeet
12-24-2007, 05:17 PM
Merry Christmas everyone! Please spend some time with those you love. It will remind you of why we are doing this. Our Ron Paul OCD is hard to subdue, but do try for a few hours! Dec. 26th we can begin anew and with new energy!

terryp
12-24-2007, 06:13 PM
Merry Christmas.

acroso
12-24-2007, 06:15 PM
Why do you call yourself antifederalist?

Anti Federalist
12-25-2007, 12:37 AM
Why do you call yourself antifederalist?

The Federalist movement of the 1780s was motivated by the proposition that the national government under the Articles of Confederation was too weak, and needed to be amended or replaced. Eventually, they managed to get the national government to sanction a convention to amend the Articles. Opposition to its ratification immediately appeared when the convention concluded and published the proposed Constitution.

The opposition was composed of diverse elements, including those opposed to the Constitution because they thought that a stronger government threatened the sovereignty and prestige of the states, localities, or individuals; those that fancied a new centralized, disguised "monarchic" power that would only replace the cast-off despotism of Great Britain with the proposed government; and those who simply feared that the new government threatened their personal liberties. Some of the opposition believed that the central government under the Articles of Confederation was sufficient. Still others believed that while the national government under the Articles was too weak, the national government under the Constitution would be too strong.

During the period of debate over the ratification of the Constitution, numerous independent local speeches and articles were published all across the country. Initially, many of the articles in opposition were written under pseudonyms, such as "Brutus", "Centinel", and "Federal Farmer". Eventually, famous revolutionary figures such as Patrick Henry came out publicly against the Constitution. They argued that the strong national government proposed by the Federalists was a threat to the rights of individuals and that the President would become a king. They objected to the federal court system created by the proposed constitution. This produced a phenomenal body of political writing; the best and most influential of these articles and speeches were gathered by historians into a collection known as the Anti-Federalist Papers in allusion to the Federalist Papers.

In every state the opposition to the Constitution was strong, and in two states — North Carolina and Rhode Island — it prevented ratification until the definite establishment of the new government practically forced their adhesion. Individualism was the strongest element of opposition; the necessity, or at least the desirability, of a bill of rights was almost universally felt. In Rhode Island resistance against the Constitution was so strong that civil war almost broke out on July 4, 1788, when anti-federalists led by Judge William West marched into Providence with over 1,000 armed protesters.

The Anti-Federalists played upon these feelings in the ratification convention in Massachusetts. By this point, five of the states had ratified the Constitution with relative ease, but the Massachusetts convention was far more bitter and contentious. Finally, after long debate, a compromise (known as the "Massachusetts compromise") was reached. Massachusetts would ratify the Constitution with recommended provisions in the ratifying instrument that the Constitution be amended with a bill of rights. (The Federalists contended that a conditional ratification would be void, so the recommendation was the strongest support that the ratifying convention could give to a bill of rights short of rejecting the Constitution.)

Four of the next five states to ratify, including New Hampshire, Virginia, and New York, included similar language in their ratification instruments. As a result, once the Constitution became operative in 1789, Congress sent a set of twelve amendments to the states. Ten of these amendments were immediately ratified and became known as the Bill of Rights. Thus, while the Anti-Federalists were unsuccessful in their quest to prevent the adoption of the Constitution, their efforts were not totally in vain. Anti-Federalists thus became recognized as an influential group among the founding fathers of the United States.

And that's what Anti Federalism is all about Charlie Brown.;)