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quantized
12-24-2007, 02:55 AM
i am really baffled. how can any sensible, informed human being want to support her over Ron Paul. This is beyond my comprehension! who are her supporters?? we need to help them see the light before it is too late :(

Antonius Stone
12-24-2007, 02:57 AM
i am really baffled. how can any sensible, informed human being want to support her over Ron Paul. This is beyond my comprehension! who are her supporters?? we need to help them see the light before it is too late :(

i don't know who her supporters are but I know that a lot of the Democrat base is really Socially Liberal and Fiscally Conservative (ie: Libertarians) so as soon as the general race is on you know that we're going to be cannibalizing their vote

zmall88
12-24-2007, 02:57 AM
middle aged women stuck in the 60s

ThomasJ
12-24-2007, 02:57 AM
Once Ron wins the Primary and you put him up on a debate platform vs hitlery it will be a show stopper. Socialist vs Free Market.... The real defining question for this country.

Do we as Americans believe in freedom or big government.

I truly believe Ron Paul will win that battle.

InRonWeTrust
12-24-2007, 02:58 AM
People who believe in big government support her in droves. She promises free healthcare and god knows what else. Her xmas ad literally had her handing out confiscated money to people as "gifts" from the government!

The problem is that 75% or more of the US population knows absolutely NOTHING about the Constitution or economic theory or foreign policy.

Ron would DESTROY her in debates, though.

sirachman
12-24-2007, 03:00 AM
Go to the hillary clinton website. Sign up for her calling thing on her website. Then call people and tell them about Ron instead of her.

quantized
12-24-2007, 03:03 AM
LOOK AT THIS!!!


December 23, 2007, 12:13AM CST
Hillary Clinton is one of the most vile and disgusting people to ever walk the face of the planet. Today during our sixth fourteen-hour marathon office session, one of the student volunteers, Brittany, called a sweet little old lady, and through the course of the conservation, found out that this little lady was extremely excited about an upcoming party she was invited to. The date? January 3rd. Hillary Clinton's campaign staff had invited her. The party? The Democratic Caucus. The Hillary Campaign was literally calling little old ladies and inviting them to a "party". While this lady was being exploited for her vote, dozens of paid Hillary staffers were likely in the midst of calling other little old ladies and conning them into attending similar "parties" at local precinct headquarters around the State of Iowa. Legal, but unethical - Hillary Clinton's motto.


it drives me nut!!! she can do almost anything to win!!

go youtube and you can read all her scandals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fr1dm2Qdls

she can plant question, so why won't she plant voters! and no one in america can stop her! :mad:

hypnagogue
12-24-2007, 03:06 AM
hitlery Can we quit with that term already? It is, 1, not funny, and 2, brings Godwin's Law down on our heads.

InRonWeTrust
12-24-2007, 03:09 AM
Go to the hillary clinton website. Sign up for her calling thing on her website. Then call people and tell them about Ron instead of her.


Ahahaha... yeah.

ronpaulfan
12-24-2007, 03:10 AM
who are Hillary supporters?

Militant feminists

nist7
12-24-2007, 03:11 AM
Can we quit with that term already? It is, 1, not funny, and 2, brings Godwin's Law down on our heads.

Aye. Although McCain invoked the Nazi card at the CNN debate......and promptly got booed.

Anyways, it just might be that there are enough socialists in this country who would do Hillary.....its a very scary thought but if she is elected president....you just might see a mass exodous to canada......lol

Joe3113
12-24-2007, 03:12 AM
Go to the hillary clinton website. Sign up for her calling thing on her website. Then call people and tell them about Ron instead of her.

THIS IS F*CKING GENIUS!!!

nist7
12-24-2007, 03:13 AM
lol.......being a double agent is always fun

quantized
12-24-2007, 03:24 AM
wow. I just did a search on "Hillary forums" on google. You can hardly find a pro hillary forum. all of them anti-hillary forum! this is freaking hilarious. is she buying the gullup polls or what? there is no way she can be leading the polls!!!

ErikBlack
12-24-2007, 03:28 AM
People like Hillary because they think it is the job of government to provide social assistance but don't understand the financial quandary we are in.They figure the government is going to spend the money on something, might as well be helping the poor or the environment. The idea of cutting government spending is entirely foreign to them, as is the national debt, the dollar crisis and inflation.

The way to counter these arguments is to make the point that it doesn't matter what services our government "should" perform. That is a philosophical debate. All that matters is that the country can no longer afford to spend at its current levels or we will go bankrupt. It's kind of hard to be charitable when you have nothing to give.

Antonius Stone
12-24-2007, 03:31 AM
in the debate it won't matter. Ron Paul has already committed himself to "taking care of the people that are dependent" so its a matter of

maintaining current programs while slashing the deficit (thus increasing the purchasing power of dollars already in circulation)

vs.

increasing programs, universal Pre-K, etc etc while increasing the deficit and thus causing even more inflation

I think its pretty clear that Paul's going to win that argument.

ThomasJ
12-24-2007, 04:10 AM
Can we quit with that term already? It is, 1, not funny, and 2, brings Godwin's Law down on our heads.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Sorry for me she is and will always be Hitlery

shagywashere
12-24-2007, 04:54 AM
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Sorry for me she is and will always be Hitlery

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Use it elsewhere, not here! It may cause undecided voters to leave...

user
12-24-2007, 05:17 AM
Noam Chomsky supports Hillary over RP! Yeah I don't get it either. That guy is right on some things and very wrong on others.

akforme
12-24-2007, 05:19 AM
I was a blind 90's Clinton supporter, not Hilary but Bill, never liked her. What sold me AFTF.

AlexAmore
12-24-2007, 05:33 AM
This is your basic (with extra hot) hillary supporter. She's cute, but misinformed.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Feminism/ashley_judd-feminist.jpg


This is your basic male hillary supporter. Not much to write home about.
http://www.gapersblock.com/detour/gfx/04302004_boystoo.jpg

user
12-24-2007, 05:35 AM
If it's Hillary vs. RP in the general, I have a feeling the neocon base will be happy to vote for RP to beat Hillary.

Oliver
12-24-2007, 05:42 AM
i am really baffled. how can any sensible, informed human being want to support her over Ron Paul. This is beyond my comprehension! who are her supporters?? we need to help them see the light before it is too late :(

Hillary runs for the welfare-state - with universal health care
on top of the honey cake.

Ron Paul stands on the complete opposite side of the spectrum.
Safe the money for you to decide, smaller government, Troops home,
more freedoms = less dependence on government = power back to the people.

Basically it comes down to:

Hillary: Increase spending for "honey cake".

Paul: Saving the money to let people decide for themselves if they
want to use the bucks for honey cake or not.

:p

AlexAmore
12-24-2007, 05:45 AM
i am really baffled. how can any sensible, informed human being want to support her over Ron Paul. This is beyond my comprehension! who are her supporters?? we need to help them see the light before it is too late :(

They watch Michael Moore docs like his latest one and then deem themselves as "informed".

Pete
12-24-2007, 05:58 AM
Hillary gets the support of those who are on the teat of government and various institutions who are nourished thereby, plus plus some unions and sundry misguided do-gooders.

I have a brother-in-law whose family are all Hillary supporters. The guy's a university professor, the wife is a civic activist, and the kids are all intellectuals and artists. They have even met the beast and are beyond hope.

The_Ruffneck
12-24-2007, 06:04 AM
just to state the obvious most of hilarys supporters are women who want to vote for a woman president because they feel 'it is time'

in that case it is possible you will sway some of the hillary supporters but will end up swaying less than the other candidates (in my opinion)

The_Ruffneck
12-24-2007, 06:06 AM
This is your basic (with extra hot) hillary supporter. She's cute, but misinformed.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Feminism/ashley_judd-feminist.jpg

nice face shame about the neck and the brain

aspiringconstitutionalist
12-24-2007, 06:07 AM
i am really baffled. how can any sensible, informed human being want to support her over Ron Paul. This is beyond my comprehension! who are her supporters?? we need to help them see the light before it is too late :(

For the same reason my Hillary supporting friend says she's going to vote for Hillary instead of Ron Paul: free healthcare. Plain and simple. Doesn't care about the Constitution or the tax increases that will necessarily come with "free" healthcare, just wants free healthcare. That sums up a lot of America these days.

user
12-24-2007, 06:13 AM
For the same reason my Hillary supporting friend says she's going to vote for Hillary instead of Ron Paul: free healthcare. Plain and simple. Doesn't care about the Constitution or the tax increases that will necessarily come with "free" healthcare, just wants free healthcare. That sums up a lot of America these days.
Too bad, what about future generations who would have worse health care if the government stays involved and prevents progress?

freedom-maniac
12-24-2007, 07:12 AM
wow. I just did a search on "Hillary forums" on google. You can hardly find a pro hillary forum. all of them anti-hillary forum! this is freaking hilarious. is she buying the gullup polls or what? there is no way she can be leading the polls!!!

I signed up for one with the name Freedom-Maniac. Did you know that they don't even let you choose your own password? They pick it and e-mail it to you. I plan to get in, and then begin innocently spreading the anti-Hillary propoganda saying, "Look what these horrible Ron Paul people wrote. It's not Hillary's fault she voted for the war. That big bad Bush just mislead her. Oh boo, hoo."

freedom-maniac
12-24-2007, 07:13 AM
just to state the obvious most of hilarys supporters are women who want to vote for a woman president because they feel 'it is time'


Why not just vote for Rudy Giuliani if they want a woman president?

freedom-maniac
12-24-2007, 07:16 AM
People like Hillary because they think it is the job of government to provide social assistance but don't understand the financial quandary we are in.They figure the government is going to spend the money on something, might as well be helping the poor or the environment. The idea of cutting government spending is entirely foreign to them, as is the national debt, the dollar crisis and inflation.

The way to counter these arguments is to make the point that it doesn't matter what services our government "should" perform. That is a philosophical debate. All that matters is that the country can no longer afford to spend at its current levels or we will go bankrupt. It's kind of hard to be charitable when you have nothing to give.

It's been the modern mentality that people believe that money grows on trees, and that the government can pull it out of no where. Worse, they fail to have the logic and intelligence to take care of themselves, so they believe it's the job of the government to raise their children, take care of their health, wipe their rear end...etc.

pickfair
12-24-2007, 07:16 AM
The younger ones could probably be converted. They don't seem to be as fervent supporters as the middle-aged women. I used to go for Hillary before discovering Ron Paul, but I wasn't enthusiastic about it. She was the "best choice" - considering.

quantized
12-24-2007, 12:42 PM
its a shame

RPinSEAZ
12-24-2007, 12:44 PM
My wife wants to vote for Hillary because she's a woman. No shit that's the only reason why. You can't reason with people like that. I convinced her to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries and that she'd still be able to vote for Hillary in the election.

dircha
12-24-2007, 12:54 PM
i am really baffled. how can any sensible, informed human being want to support her over Ron Paul. This is beyond my comprehension! who are her supporters?? we need to help them see the light before it is too late :(

Anyone who supports universal health care and Roe v Wade?

You're not going to convince those people.

confederatepatriot1025
12-24-2007, 12:58 PM
hillary's appeal is to women and thats her only power base. the globalists have already chosen her as their candidate. all the more reason to do all we can to get Congressman Paul's name out there thats really the only poll he loses. Name reccognition

LewDunbar
12-24-2007, 01:04 PM
Too bad Ron Paul isn't a woman. He/she would destroy Hillary.

propanes
12-24-2007, 02:37 PM
h**p://zombietime.com/really_truly_hillary_gallery/

quantized
12-24-2007, 02:41 PM
h**p://zombietime.com/really_truly_hillary_gallery/

http://zombietime.com/really_truly_hillary_gallery/Hillary67.jpg

Adamsa
12-24-2007, 02:49 PM
Anyone who supports universal health care and Roe v Wade?

You're not going to convince those people.

Well, it's just health insurance that probably won't cover a lot of things. Pro-choicers can find solace in Ron's "leave it to the states" argument.

qednick
12-24-2007, 03:20 PM
Because she's a woman, period!

Also, if anyone mentions to you anything about "free" healthcare, ask them if it really is "free".